Game 3: Avalanche At Flames, Preview And Open Thread
by Joe Dunman on Oct 14, 2008 3:30 PM MDT
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Proposing a Goal Girl
She brought luck to Holland’s best football player, so here goes nothing for Budaj:
Sylvie van der Vaart, if she’s generally agreed upon…
26 Card Jet
Goal Girl
I was going to say Allison Stokke on the basis that she’s omg-copy-this-girl-and-clone-her unbelievably hot, but also athletic! So she would grant the Avs… more speed? strength, athleticism? I dunno, something along those lines.
But she’s not really a “celebrity” and if you believe the stuff one might read about her, she’s not really a fan of her “internet fandom,” so out of respect maybe we keep her to the other generic and vaguely-related-to-sports blogs.
Thus, I’d second Sylvie van der Vaart. That is an impressive selection!
Besides, it’s too early in the season for Adriana Lima. If we’re 0-4, then she comes out.
In protest of adulthood
Oh man – just googled Allison Stokke. Hot is certainly the right word.
As for the game, I’d really like to wake up and find out that the Avs have won a game… it’s been a while!
Yep on the win thing.
6 straight in games that count. But who is counting?
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Ugh,
Okay, NEW season. We can’t live in the past, can we?
I think we all wish that Red Wings series had just never happened.
@pingu: yeah, “hot” doesn’t even really do it justice.
In protest of adulthood
My records show
that the last two Av-RW playoff series were played in 1999 and 2000. And previous to that 1996.
How’s that? ;)
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes please
I am a big big fan of Sylvie Van Der Vaart.
I believe in Peter Budaj
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2008 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
This game is definately a "Shouldn't lose" game
I won’t be able to watch the game tonight, as I have uni tomorrow morning (early).
Please, Lord Stanley and Saint Patty, let Phadouche en Ugly Berta get the pummeling of a lifetime!
And Oh yeah, a win would be nice
26 Card Jet
Complaint
my biggest complaint is that the NHL keeps scheduling Avs games on nights I have conflicts. Tonight.. league soccer.. Thursdays Softball. Thankfully i can still watch the games because of TiVo, but i can’t join in these threads.
I believe in Peter Budaj
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2008 5:21 PM MDT reply actions
I won’t be able to join the thread tonight either since I’m having some people over for the game and I don’t want to be “that guy”.
With that said, ITS ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!!!!
InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace
“that guy” who shows your guests the lingerie thread?
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions
hahaha, I was thinking the guy that invites people over and then just hangs out on the computer all night. (I actually knew somebody like that. Its safe to say I don’t hang out with him anymore).
Showing people the lingerie thread may not be a good idea……….or maybe the BEST idea.
InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace
I'll be missing part of the first
Gotta vote for the PM.
And that will be the only political comment I’m making ever.
Wow
I have to say, the HNIC opening for TSN was pretty lame.
Mixed CGI with clips, really didn’t work.
I Say
Screw them. Raycroft, they may have a point. In an article, DP, I think, it said Raycroft will play every fourth game. That means he will only start 20 games. Not a big deal, I think.
Red Wings Suck
I fully support this message.
At least the “Screw them” part.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions
It was a great save at first
and then Budaj starts scrambling, and the puck finds its way in. 1-0 Flames. Great.
When were the penalties called???
I missed the Tucker penalty AND the Laperriere penalty.
2-0 now. Wonderful.
Gah
I missed the Tucker call and things got crazy right before the first goal. My bad.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Those are 7 words
I find myself saying daily.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Too many men on the ice
What a great start to this fiasco.
At least we’ve found out that Smyth and Stastny are two of our best defensemen.
This is really looking like a team melt down so far. Man, these guys need to buck up.
Red Wings Suck
Comedic relief?
We should start a running count of all of his mishaps. Maybe I will. It would give me something to do during games.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions
One of our IT guys went to college with Arnie and he said Arnie was a monster goal scorer in college.
He speculates Arnie doesn’t want to be in the spotlight which is why he plays the way he does.
If that’s true, why be in the NHL, then? Guys are supposed to live for those clutch moments, for the win, for the team.
Red Wings Suck
That's mind-boggling.
If that’s the case, he should give all of the money he earned back.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions
The new icing rules
regarding TV timeouts is going to come up in every game, isn’t it? These guys seem to think it’s a big deal.
It is
they cant change and they dont get a quick rest.
Plus, the stations dont make asmuch ad revenue.
I get
that it closes a nice little loophole, but I don’t think it’s a major change like they’ve made it sound in every game.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha
“baaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww”
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
How about that?
McCormick plays for Svatos and he creates the scoring chance that leads to McLeod’s goal.
2-1!
And McLeod
follows his goal with an apparent penalty. Goalie Interference, I believe is what they said. I wasn’t so sure he wasn’t being driven into Kipper, but okay. I didn’t see it well enough, so all right.
Aha!
He WAS driven into Kipper. And McLeod DRAWS the penalty. Excellent shift, youngster.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Liles
just played great defense on a 2-on-1 until Sakic got back and broke up the chance. Too bad our Powerplay is still awful.
Can’t blame Footer for that one either, he was out on the ice for what seemed like a good 2 minutes straight.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Holey shit. That’s what the Avs look like in this game. Holey shit.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
We are not gellin’, nor are we propellin’….
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions
They just aren't good
They are flat offensively, flat defensively, and Budaj is not good. I just realized this.
Saved you from that disaster.
I can’t imagine studying steel design. It sounds awful =[
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
It was a nice play and it left Hejduk all alone in front of the net with the puck. He needs to finish that.
SCORE
Liles from Stastny.
Hate to say it, but I’m glad that dude laid Hejduk out, because it COMPLETELY took him out of the play.
That was such a nice shot too, picked that corner and buried it, awesome.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:16 PM MDT reply actions
Fuck you Phadouche. Cody should
take your visor of you punk, take it off!!!!!!!!
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Phadouche
takes a hit at McLeod after the buzzer and McLeod sits him on his ass. Ignila takes down McCormick in a fight, but at least Cody got some nice hits on him. I’ll trade McCormick for Iginla on the ice.
Holy Crap
McCormick fighting the captain.
Doesn’t McCormick know that Bertuzzi is on this team and that his career may now be over?
Red Wings Suck
Captain Douche just went up my list for refusing to take the visor off after Cody asked. Punk ass bitch.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Indeed. I hate Phaneuf so much… I wish he would man up and fight somebody this game.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Iginla fights too much imo. I mean, yeah it’s great when your captain is willing to go out there and fight for the team, but he’s also your best player. Too risky imo.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:17 PM MDT reply actions
Not when you refuse to take your visor off and then turtle. That’s pretty low risk for the amount of street cred that cretin carries around…
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
True. He did take the visor off when he fought Mitchell last night though. I guess McCormick is not worthy enough for him…
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Damn
Too bad there aren’t 3 other games going on so I could give this Multi-Game feature a whirl. Anybody else tried it out yet?
But by then
The Avs game will be back and I’ll have zero interest in the others. I should pout. That will solve everything.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
HA!
McLeod says Phadouche will know the number 55 before the night is over. LOL
I don’t think he knows Phadouche won’t fight.
Red Wings Suck
He will fight
as long as McLeod isn’t looking. He should just skate backwards all night to avoid any typical Phadouche hits.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Hi. Third Flame goal was weaker than hell. Backhander through Budaj’s suddenly porous five hole.
Still, Avs have pretty much played like shit and are only down by one softie. Is Svats hurt of just in TG’s doghouse?
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Not to rip on Budaj here, I actually think he’s playing pretty well this game (the 2nd goal was a judgement error on his part, not a technica/goaltending error), but his 5-hole has always been very weak.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Special teams still a huge problem, it appears. One PP in the first was among the worst I’ve ever seen. They grouped together like mighty mites.
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Hey now
At least mighty mites are cute.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Defense saves a goal
as Budaj makes the initial save but the rebound was as fat as fat gets. Luckily, one of the d-men chipped it out.
Oh god.
It was actually Arnason.
I feel dirty.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
blind squirrel, nut
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Avalanche defense seems to consist of lining up in front of Budaj to make a bigger, wider screen than the Flames can provide alone….
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Hannan does this annoying thing on the PK where he basically stands next to Budaj in the crease. Doing nothing. Watching the game. Not controlling it.
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
It just occurred to me
that the Flames seem like a lesser version of the Ducks. They try to throw their weight around, take cheap shots on you left and right in order to intimidate you, and are willing to take penalties in order to get you off your game.
This kid is VERY good.
He may have a future in this league….
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
It's funny
because I was thinking about it a few minutes ago. Just watching him, I’m constantly impressed. And then he makes that play to Smyth and I have a mancrush.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
That’s a BEAUTY of a goal! WOW!!!!
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 8:51 PM MDT reply actions
Wow
That Stastny kid is pretty good. Is he a product of the Avs shitty system?
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Rene Bourque? I didn’t know the Flames had a girl on their team.
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We used to have Rene Corbet.
Pretty sure he wasn’t too bad, either.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions
He said “I’m going to Svatos a bunch of you if you don’t start playing some hockey!”
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I didn't even click on it
to start laughing. I just looked at the URL closely.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Forget the bandwagons. We have the approval wagon circling the posts. It must be an election year, eh?
Red Wings Suck
I always use approval messages
as my own personal way of mocking politics. Aren’t I clever?
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions
At least
it’s ending for Canada tonight.
I’d check, but Avs are more important than Canada’s leader.
I’m sure they understand.
They are probably
all watching some form of hockey right now, even during the speeches.
I can see the teleprompter having a PiP with the game in the corner.
Now that’s the kind of leader I’d vote for.
He’s testing out pads made of flubber tonight. Bad experiment.
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Flubber!
Great movie when I was a kid. Silly as can be. I might dig it up sometime this week to watch while I’m at work. Thanks!
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Plot?
You mean something other than 90 minutes of Robin Williams screaming at a gooey green substance moving at light speed happened?
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the real old one was better.
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions
New Drinking Game
Wanna get hammered quicker than a muthafucker!! Take a shot every time the Avs give the puck away within 10 feet of the net.
They better thank Boot’s they aren’t down 28-3 in this one…
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Actually
The one I’ve been playing lately is everytime the Broncos miss a tackle, I take a shot. Sundays are REALLY hazy…
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Do the Broncos make tackles?
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
In the stat sheet
they count a player thats run out of bounds as a tackle, so technically yes. In the field of play…not so much.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I have been drinking
Each big rebound I take a shot of Newfie Screech.
I’m amazed I’m coherent and not dead.
Next Pres debate, I’m going to take a drink every McCain says “My friend” or “My friends.” I’ll be dead 10 minutes in.
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Dare I say
Budaj did have a good period. He would have had to have been quite as good had he controlled a few more rebounds, but he made some good saves.
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Not that
the past two games have taught has that shots matter.
Goals that period:
Calgary: 0
Colorado: 1
Just sayin’.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions
And a tired goalie
has won the last two Avs games. Seeing why the team is trying to reverse tonight?
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
You don’t get a 3-to-1 ratio because of horrible rebound control. It takes a team effort.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
The passive aggressive approach to clearing the puck sure ain’t working, is it?
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe that’s what is going on with the ‘horrendous rebounds’, Boots is trying to clear the puck since nobody else in white seems to be able to…
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
He did make one nice play behind the net to get the puck moving out of the zone too. Wtf is up with the D? Not enough support from the forwards, or is the D just sucking?
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions
David Jones 4 game review
Okay, so what everybody’s thoughts about Jones?
I know it’s only been four games… Heres David Jones, basically a rookie, having been thrown the first and second line with guys like Joe Sakic and Wolski. He’s playing on the top two offensive lines, but up until tonight (I haven’t checked tonight yet), he’s been given zero power play time.
I see him taking the body and banging around down low, which I really like as it addresses the Avs need for a prototypical “Power Forward.” Every now and then I see him with some offensive shifts that look great, but then sometimes he seems a bit lost in the neutral zone or on defense. And, he’s without a point so far, only one shot, and a -3 (as of this writing).
I’m curious what everybody else thinks about him. Happy with what they see so far, unhappy, not really paying attention only 3 games in?
In protest of adulthood
Disappointed he hasn't shown more
But give him time. He will, I think.
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I think he'sdoing great
despite others thoughts.
He had a fantastic preseason, but I can see many dry spells from a rookie. It’s nothing bad.
I notice him sometimes
but he’s not doing a hell of a lot to make me remember his shifts. Granted, I wasn’t expecting him to light it up and be a star, but I would like to see SOMETHING.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I like the physical aspect so far, but he hasn’t generated anything from those plays. Jury is still out.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
So...
My assessment is similar to your comments here, but clearly there is a pretty big variety of responses here.
What do you think he is/isn’t doing that explains his lack of really generating chances?
It’s almost like he feels… uncomfortable out there. No confidence to do what his gut is probably telling him to do.
In protest of adulthood
I like the new NHL ads
The ones where the player pops out of the picture.
Toews is my fav so far.
Close only gets you 82games.
Hahaha
I don’t see it often, but it was still funny to watch one of the Flames players fall down when hopping off the bench. It’s the small pleasures, I tell you.
Ugh
terrible job by Foote on the clear. He had tons of room and tons of time and out of play it goes. Nice. Another PP for Calgary.
Not as much a bad rebound as slow side-to-side movement. Oh well, Guite gets a fluky, right back in it.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions
F me…. 5-3. That was as juicy a rebound as Boods has ever given up.
Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-
And Adam Foote could not have been MORE OUT OF POSITION than he was on Bertuzzi’s goal.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
He tried to chip in the to keep the puck in the offensive zone, it’s a chance you take when you’re down a goal in the 3rd, unfortunately it backfired.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
But the goal was a direct result of a bad rebound right? RIGHT????
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
No, like I said above, it was more a result of slow reaction than a bad rebound. He seemed to stand there a bit too long after making the initial save. Of course, I highly doubt a save could have been made even if he moved across right after the save. It was just too much of an impossible angle.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t be the voice of reason now. I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to goaltending and Budaj is the anti-christ…
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Of course, did you see him leaving his net to go to the bench just right now, with about 40 seconds left?? What was he thinking?!?
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
BAM
They were still talking about Iginla and his wonderful-ness, and forgot the game was going on. Guite scores! 5-4
Kiiiiippppp errrrrrrr. Kiiiiiiiippppp errrrrrrrr. Wow, and McNab is defending that one too?
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Apparently
Goalies are not to be held accountable for goals they give up. They are 230978503 excuses why it’s NOT the goalies fault.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Except Peter Budaj. Then every goal is his fault. Just ask Bob.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Whoa there Nelly. I never said that. The 3rd Flame goal was absolute shit. Other than that, he only let in 4 others. Call it another typical night for twgih so far this season. ;)
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by Bob in Boulder on Oct 14, 2008 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
So what are we supposed to chant on Thursday? Nitimaki doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue like Biiiiirrroooonnnn.
Red Wings Suck
Tucker
draws a penalty. Phadouche in the box. I hate that guy. You know how much? When I bought NHL 09, I email-ed the guy I bought it from and requested that he take the booklet and the game sleeve out so I wouldn’t see him on the cover. After I got the game, I redesigned the cover of the game disc to be entirely black.
LOL
No, Favre was. I feel the same way about both guys.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2008 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
It's bad
that I thought the PP was a mild success just because we managed to set it up for nearly 30 whole seconds.
We need a goal.
What was that stat, only 3 out of 10 teams that went 0-3 ended up in the post-season last year?
Mir ist egal.
Sounds about right...
This team hasn’t played like a playoff team yet this year.
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
Damn, well that’s game. Oh well, I thought this would happen, just no way Calgary is gonna lose its 3rd game in a row, especially playing at home. Like I said, the game that I will start panicking after is if we lose to Philly.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:00 PM MDT reply actions
Back to steel design. Somebody go post some new lingerie pics…
Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!
I just posted 2
Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-
by Americanario on Oct 14, 2008 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
1 goal games
I AM SICK OF LOSING THIS WAY!!!
"I can't hear Jeremy because I have my 2 Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears!" -Patrick Roy
So..
When does the Budaj apology train stop around here? I realize you all like the guy, and I like him too, but with the exception of the 2nd period tonight and every time Bergeron shot in the first game, he’s been pretty bad. The goal that came down off his glove was ridiculously bad.
I agree that it’s too early to crucify the guy, but the trend around here seems to be to go ludicrously far in the other direction.
Well, the goal that went off the glove was just bad judgment, it’s not like he was out of position, or reacted slowly. What I’m trying to say was that that goal wasn’t because of his supposed lack of goaltending skill, it was just a lapse in judgment. Goalies aren’t meant to go out and catch the puck like that, he took a chance to help the team (like Foote took a chance on the Calgary’s 5th goal) by trying to catch it but got burned. The one goal that should not have happened tonight, a goal that was a result of bad goaltending imo, was the one that went in through the five-hole on Conroy’s backhander. That should be stopped. The first goal was unstoppable, and he made a great initial save on that one. Iginla’s goal went right into the top corner, even if Budaj was more out of the net, I highly doubt that save can be made. The fifth goal was pretty tough too, you could argue that Budaj could’ve done more to control the rebound but there’s just not much you can do as a goalie when it’s coming that fast right towards your feet.
Even though I’m defending the guy here, making excuses is not a good thing to do. Bad bounces or no bad bounces, bad defense or no bad defense; 0-3, 4.66 GAA, and .824 SV% are not good stats for your first 3 games, no matter how you cut it. Let’s ask ourselves: Is our defense really as bad as Tampa’s? (and their defense suuuuuuucks). Yet both Tampa goalies have much, much better stats… But like I said, it’s not time to panic yet, not just yet…
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
With that being said, I think Raycroft gets the start next game (that’s not necessarily a good thing though). I read a piece in the paper the other day where Granato said that the original plan all along was to play Raycroft at least once in every four games the entire season (or something along those lines). So I wouldn’t be surprised if Raycroft is in against the Flyers.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Not a bad strategy in playing Raycroft 1 every 4. If it’s known among the goalies that that is the plan it doesn’t shake their confidence (not that Boods probably has much right at this moment). My only fear is the team as a whole gets their act together, pulls off an a very ugly win, and people start screaming for Raycroft to start. On the other hand if Raycroft plays very well and the team wins, do you give him another start?
Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-
by Americanario on Oct 14, 2008 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
True true. This was the case a lot last season too. And chances are, the Avs will probably win the game against the Flyers. Just like tonight, both teams are winless, but this time it’s the Avs who are at home. And if Raycroft does indeed play that game, and they do indeed win then I’m pretty sure he’ll get thrown next game as well. It’s a bad idea as it is detrimental to Budaj’s confidence, but weren’t we here at MHH the ones who kept using the “if he wins games, no matter how he does it—then start him!” argument to support Budaj last season? It would be hypocritical to not use the same argument for Raycroft (if he does win) this year. And so, sadly, begins the Goalie Carousel of Doom 2008-09 edition!
:vomit:
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
*he’ll get thrown in next game as well.
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 14, 2008 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions
My thoughts
Is Boots thrives on knowing there’s a competent goalie in behind him waiting to stealthe job.
Theo/Boots is the best choice for this, but look at Boot’s record when he started straight games during that era. I think he knows Raycroft is very unlikely to take the starter, and doesn’t feel like he needs to play perfectly in order to keep it.
If this is the case, maybe bringing another goalie in wouldn’t be a bad idea, in that they would stir up competetiveness.
Now don’t think I’m giving up on Boots, I just think a little compettition would be good for him, make him push himself more.
I’m still all for the ‘I Believe in Budaj’ campaign.
Apology train?
I think everyone here has said Budaj has been subpar in three games this season. I think everyone is also saying.. it’s been 3 games. no reason to panic yet.
I thought the first period was his worst of the season, I thought the second and third were his best two. They were certainly the only 2 he’s actually looked comfortable.
And his rebound control was fine, especially in the second and third period. Yes Betruzzi’s goal was a rebound goal… that Foote completely misplayed. And if anyone wants to criticize him for giving up that rebound, let’s take a look at this video and see a hall of famer give up the exact same rebound. (1:10 mark). Goalies give up rebounds. All of them do. Yes there’s an amount they can control, but their primary job is to stop the first shot.
I believe in Peter Budaj
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2008 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Break out the Ozzy
I’m going off the rails on the apology train…
But yeah, what Jib said. That fat rebound was about all he could do on a low shot like that. Those pads aren’t made of absorbing gel with mini-tractor beams hidden inside. Pucks bounce off them. It’s physics.
It’s the rebounds off the upper body and gloves – sorry, trappers – that are less acceptable. For any goalie.
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