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Game 9: Mike's Recap

This reminded me of a Coach Q game.  Lots of dumping that resulted in very little chasing and anytime the Avs did get some offensive zone possession, it was all run out of the corners and rarely resulted in anything resembling a legit scoring chance. I also got the distinct feeling that the Avs were hanging on for the horn in the last five minutes of the 2nd period, while the majority of the 3rd felt like they were playing for the OT point.  We also saw fairly disciplined play by Colorado, little emotion throughout, and a third-line center in Arnason sucking talent from his linemates. 

I didn't notice him (Arny) at all last year, which was enough of a problem in an of itself, but so far this year, he has contributed nothing and often times manages to somehow NOT make plays when given the opportunity. I saw him flub a four-foot pass to Svatos last night!  FOUR FEET!  That could all be perception biased by me wanting to see someone else in his role just to see what it looks like, but when is Granato going to notice the void on the third line?

All three of those goals were pretty wretched last night.  The first one was tough to watch: how did the entire defensive corps and the third-line center forget how to play a man against the boards behind the net?  You take the body!  Arny can't contain Moss even though he had his stick on the puck twice, Salei swings and misses as Moss steps out front, and Svats bought an all-expense ticket and let his man go in front of the net.

The second goal was another case of a defenseman defensemen misplaying a man-to-man situation down low, as Clark gets beat like a rented mule off of the wall, and his defensive linemate, Foote watches Bourque walk to the side of the goal and stuff one past Budaj.  I didn't see Boots' skate come of the post in the replay, and somebody mentioned that the puck may have rode up his stick, but these short side goals, whether bad luck or poor technique seem to happen to Budaj alot.  Granted he stopped about two dozen of them last night, but this one didn't work out so well.

Goal 3 was another study in breakdowns as a lack of hustle speed from Salei results in an icing call getting washed out while Leoprone is turning double axles in the crease instead of intercepting the pass or playing Cammalleri as he skates down the slot.

Dater can lament how the second goal put the Avs out of it last night, but when you manage a measly 1 shot on goal over 25 minutes (and only 2 in the third period!), any goal (good, bad, ugly) would have done that.  His little dig about late-game goals was unnecessary:

Boods didn’t lose the game tonight, but late-game goals happened again and we’ve seen that before with him.

Like Boots has any control over when the Avs (or 'Lanche as Dater prefers to call them) decide to phone it in!  If those goals had come evenly distributed throughout the game, I guarantee that AD would have had some backhanded comment about how 1st, 2nd, and 3rd period goals are a sign of weak goaltending.

I was mightily disappointed in Colorado's performance last night, and while I didn't EXPECT a loss like our beloved AD, after the first period I wasn't expecting a win either.  The second half of the game had a real "Whoever makes the first big mistake will lose this one" feel to it.  It sucks that I was right.

Also, superstition or not, we can not blame this loss on Net Nanny's new NSFW policy.  A lack of nipples had little to do with last night's game.  It might have helped there at the end, but we can't judge Joe based on one game.  We have to give the policy a little time before we hit the panic button and start posting Youporn videos in game threads.  Basically, I'm calling for patience from the MHH faithful.

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Also, superstition or not, we can not blame this loss on Net Nanny’s new NSFW policy.

Well in Joe’s defense, I blame a lack of nipples for a lot of the awful things in life. I mean work is boring because of a lack of nipples.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 29, 2008 9:13 AM MDT reply actions  

If we can’t blame the net nanny who do we blame? We can’t actually blame the team for poor play, that would make to much sense. And it would mean we would have to realize that we really have nothing to do with the outcome of games…

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Oct 29, 2008 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wha, Wha?
it would mean we would have to realize that we really have nothing to do with the outcome of games…

HUH? We have a huge factor in all the games….I refuse to believe, it’s all the players and coaches fault. I, like most fans take credit for wins..so I KNOW we affect the out come of games.

And 2…..5 straight wins with lingerie….it goes down…BAM….automatic loss. I’m just saying…Don’t Mess with a STREAK! (even though I fully realize why it came down)

And as another note, I’m also a huge fan of nipples…and boobs in general. In fact I think this is the GREATEST SONG EVER! (nsfw!) It totally sums up my feelings..and my comedy leanings

Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.

by Redhawk on Oct 29, 2008 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I blame Arnason. Mostly. The Sakic line wasn’t anything to write home about either. As Q would say, “I think it’s time for a line change.” Here is what I would do, pronto. Call up Hensick. Bench Arny. Keep the RPM line together. Other lines as follows:

2. Wolski-Sakic-Svatos
3. Tucker-Hensick-Jones
4. Lappy-Guite-McLeod

Tucker hasn’t impressed me on the 2nd line other than during a few games. McLeod has shown me more than McCormick. Thus he wins the battle of the Cody Macs. I also think Guite brings more to the table than Arny or McCormick.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 29, 2008 9:42 AM MDT reply actions  

As an addendum to this, have you guys seen AD’s blog on last night’s game? Holy cow, he is pretty harsh. Among his observations:

The Avs had about five or six forwards who looked like they cared tonight – I’d say they were McLeod, Stastny, Lappy and, to a lesser extent, Smitty and Jonesie. The rest basically mailed it in, and at the top of that list I’d put Tucker, Wolski, Arnie and Hedgie.

I did think Tucker looked especially indifferent last night for some reason. And McCormick seemed to be floating while McLeod and Lappy were working pretty hard.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 29, 2008 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thinks he is wrong about Wolski

Wolski has several good back checking moments and at times, particularly during the 2nd period, Lappy and him looked like the only ones trying to take shots on goal.

He’s right about the others though.

InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Oct 29, 2008 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree, I didn’t think Wolski was that bad. Tucker, on the other hand, was brutal, imo. Last night was a good look at why Toronto ate a bunch of his salary and cut him loose.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 29, 2008 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Woah, Woah, Woah

Arny didn’t mail it in. That would take too much work.

"To have arrived on this Earth as a product of a biological accident, only to depart through human arrogance, would be the ultimate irony"
R. Leakey, Origins; 1977
"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 30, 2008 2:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Even with the self-adhesive stamps!!

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 30, 2008 7:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with you BiB

I am currently composing a post showing just how brutal Arny has been. Unfortunantly it’s being interrupted by a meeting, but look for it later today.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 29, 2008 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Please put a reference to his career in figure skating in a unipron (last game vs. Oilers. They even made it a highlight on NHL tv ).

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

That 2nd line misses play-making abilities in my book. It would have to come from Wolski, and I’d prefer to see Jones instead of Svatos. It worked well last year

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

ugh, i’ll try again NHL TV

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Look at the link; For some reason it copies the MHH link into it aswell…. I’m pretty sure I’d recall typing that

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

http://

If you look at the actual HTML, the link will be just href=“www.nhl.tv” but your browser sees that as a relative link and appends it to the current URL.

You have to add http:// (or whatever other protocol the link may be for) to tell the browser “This is a different site I’m linking to”

by ShaneG on Oct 29, 2008 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you and congratulations. You just owned a nerd.

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am having a hard time understanding how Arnason keeps getting ice time and Guite gets benched again. Guite and both Cody’s should be on the ice long before Arnason even gets another look. Having one of them center the third line would be better than Arnason at this point. Tucker, hasn’t been impressive, but he hasn’t looked terrible either…he’s isn’t working on that 2nd line though, that spot needs to go back to Jones.
I would love to give Henssiiick a chance, just not sure we’ll call him up unless we are going to bench/dump Arnason long term (which I’m all for at this point). Give Arny a couple of games on the bench and see if he changes his play, if not then get him gone and bring Hensiiick up.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Oct 29, 2008 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Arny

He plays more like a 2nd-3rd line AHL player, not a 3rd line NHL player.

by Drakenlot on Oct 29, 2008 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am having a hard time understanding how Arnason keeps getting ice time and Guite gets benched again

Join the club.

"To have arrived on this Earth as a product of a biological accident, only to depart through human arrogance, would be the ultimate irony"
R. Leakey, Origins; 1977
"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 30, 2008 2:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

We need a name for this club. I vote for The WTF Arnason!? Watch.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 30, 2008 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Will we get matching jackets and super secret code names in your club?

"To have arrived on this Earth as a product of a biological accident, only to depart through human arrogance, would be the ultimate irony"
R. Leakey, Origins; 1977
"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 31, 2008 1:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thursday

Is more important now. If the Avs come out Thursday flat and looking like they don’t care, the crash and burn of this game is going to sting a little more.

I’m curious to see if angry Granato will come out and try to light a fire under the players after such an uninspired game.

InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Oct 29, 2008 10:53 AM MDT reply actions  

How about a healthy scratch for a few of your underachievers, eh Granato? I’d start with Arny and Salei and give Tarnqvist and Guite a chance to see how they fit into things…No need for a call-up, just a shake-up.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 29, 2008 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

For some reason I’m worried about Tjarnqvist. Looking both at how little he played in Sweden and his stats I’m not impressed. Plus, he looks tough and slow. Am I wrong to worry about this?

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

But what do you lose by giving Tarnqvist a chance? We have Cuminsky as well, and we all know he can play. Lets use one of them and start sending a message to a couple of guys.
I think it is definitely time to give Arnason a couple of games on the bench. He changes his play/attitude or he’s in Erie. I would even play Guite as that third line center if it meant getting Arnason on the bench for a spell. Guite will at least hustle and give you something the cheer for.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Oct 29, 2008 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey

It is a good idea, it certainly looks like it works more-or-less over in T.O. for Wilson.

by Drakenlot on Oct 29, 2008 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I still remember Salei’s beastiness from the play-offs vs. the Wild. He was god back then. We should cut him more slack

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

He gets as much slack as he deserves.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 29, 2008 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I haven’t been impressed with him at all this season. He looks like Skrastins with a harder shot, more hits, and less blocked shots. He’s slow, he’s on the ice for an awful lot of goals against, he seems constantly surprised by what Leo does with the puck (which could be Leo too, I suppose). I just don’t see a huge risk in giving Tarnqvist a game to send a message to Salei.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 29, 2008 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I just don’t want to see Salei in anyone’s doghouse yet, even though he’s underperforming.

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 29, 2008 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Another observation from that would be that maybe G is not coaching in a satisfactory manner. I hate to say he could be losing the room at such an early point in the season but the Avs phoning it in was a clear indicator of “lost room” when Q was here. Can’t say it would be different with G.

Just an observation.

Red Wings Suck

by texacogirl on Oct 29, 2008 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I think it’s way too early, especially since they were still on a five-game winning streak. Sometimes you just have a lousy game. Sometimes everybody’s just phoning it in because they had to fly all the way to stupid Calgary where it’s cold and nasty and the opposing fans are all douche bags. It happens.

I think the Avs just got lazy and gave the game away. Not the end of the world, and probably not indicative of any larger issues so early in the season.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 29, 2008 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

opposing fans players are all douche bags

Fix’d

"To have arrived on this Earth as a product of a biological accident, only to depart through human arrogance, would be the ultimate irony"
R. Leakey, Origins; 1977
"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 30, 2008 2:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Also, make sure everybody actually reads Joe’s ‘recap’ for all the official linkage and stuff…

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 29, 2008 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Uh oh. I think someone got scolded for usurping the master.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 29, 2008 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just think it would be in bad taste if a contributor got a visit from the BanHamma this early in the season….Call it preemptive butt-kissing…

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 29, 2008 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair, your post was better. You put in a Smyth-like effort. Joe Arnasoned it in. Uh oh ….. did I just get banned?

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 29, 2008 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, that’s fair. Arnason’s complete lack of interest has spread to me.

Call a doctor, I think it’s contagious!

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 29, 2008 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Q-ism

Did anyone else notice we didn’t seem to have people in front of their net very often? I have to say I thought Wolski played pretty well, but on a few occasions I saw him or someone else either on the wing or down low, and there was no one to pass to in the slot and no one in the slot to get a rebound either. Holy mail it in…..

by TheRed on Oct 29, 2008 11:56 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, that seems strikingly familiar.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 29, 2008 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

There were a few times

When I had to look at my comp’s calendar to make sure I didn’t go back in time somehow.

by Drakenlot on Oct 29, 2008 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

The killer for me last night was that it was a boring game. No speed, no quality passing, no flailing goalie saves, etc. Just boring, Q-esque hockey.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 29, 2008 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed and agreed

with this post that I felt compelled to rec it. Congrats.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 30, 2008 5:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

YAY

I feel special.

"To have arrived on this Earth as a product of a biological accident, only to depart through human arrogance, would be the ultimate irony"
R. Leakey, Origins; 1977
"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 30, 2008 5:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I too rec’d it.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 30, 2008 5:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Me also. As for douche in your drill, I find a visit from the blade of my stick to either the high ankle area or his athletic supporter will tend to send a message….

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 30, 2008 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not only do they need to stop living back in the Roy days, but until Forsberg actually joins the team (if he does) stop mentioning him and his addition to the team. I love Forsberg, but he is not on the team nor in the league.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Oct 30, 2008 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn’t even consider him back on the team last year when he was actually back on the team. The Forsberg Era is OVER.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 30, 2008 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

How can you say that when he was SO good last season! I also don’t agree with calling him lumpy gravy. If he is to be compared to any type of food, it’s gonna be the best steak you ever had.
I actually worship the ground he walks on, maybe even more than Sakic’s.

Nah, but he’s definitely a top-line player for ANY team in the league, even if he only plays 20 games per season.

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Oct 30, 2008 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Arnason is Lumpy Gravy, not Forsberg.

And yes, he was good, in the few games he actually played. But it’s time to move on.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Oct 31, 2008 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Move on

and lose to the Blue jackets…

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Nov 1, 2008 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Such is life.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Nov 1, 2008 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

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