Someone please kill Sean Avery

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2008 3:41 PM MST Comment 77 comments

I've been a hockey fan for a long time, and I've always taken at least a little bit of solace in the fact that, despite being rich athletes, hockey players are a much more classy breed of professional than those in other sports.

The respect I have for pro hockey players stops short for a few thugs in the league, and there is one douche who takes the cake: Sean Avery, of course. Apparently he's trying to stir things up with Calgary, with this gem of a quote from a recent interview about tonight's upcoming match with the fLames:

"I am really happy to be back in Calgary, I love Canada, I just want to comment on how it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds. I don't know what that's about. Enjoy the game tonight."

Now some of you may be aware that Dion Phadouche is dating Hollywood hottie Elisha Cuthbert, whom Avery is probably referring to as "sloppy seconds" since he previously dated her.

I hate Dion Phaneuf. But you don't talk about a man's woman like that. Sean Avery is a classless, tactless turd, and someone needs to wipe him out of the NHL. He goes on to say that Jarome Iginla is a "boring" player. Really? That's why teams are sweating bullets when he as the puck.

Sean Avery is a disease. The NHL could use some more exposure, but not the kind this guy brings.

Phaneuf? Iginla? Bertuzzi? Someone please kill Sean Avery.

EDITORIAL DISCLAIMER: Just in case anyone is completely dense and needs help, no one at Mile High Hockey actually endorses or encourages homicide. That would be totally inappropriate. Having said that, if Sean Avery had some kind of "accident," not many of us would mourn his loss. Just sayin'. -Joe

MileHighHockey.com is a fan community, allowing members to post their own thoughts and opinions on the Colorado Avalanche and hockey in general. These views and thoughts may not be shared by the editor of MileHighHockey.com.

0 recs | Comment 77 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

I got a better idea

How about if Avery and Phaneuf off one another?

by InYoFace on Dec 2, 2008 3:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Seriously

I just don’t understand how someone can personally dislike Jarome Iginla to publicly say that. He’s arguably the classiest guy in the league after Joe Sakic. And unlike Joe, who truly is the consummate professional, Jarome Iginla won’t hesitate to burn you with his knuckles if he can’t do it with his “soft” hands.

*I’m not saying Joe is not tough; he’s played with his jaw wired shot, and beat the crap out of Doug Gilmour. But Iggy I think is more likely to defend himself with his fists at this point in his career than Super Joe.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 2, 2008 4:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t call Iginla “classy” and I definitely would rank him anywhere near Joe. He is a great player, but he is a douche himself. You only had to watch him lead his teams thuggery two season ago in the play series against the Wings. Granted I like to watch anyone smack the Wings around, but you don’t do it with cheap shots and thuggery.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Dec 2, 2008 8:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I’ve never considered Iginla a classy guy like Sakic, or dare I say Lidstrom, who seems classy. Obviously No-ones near Sakics classyness but I would never put iginla in the top 5. He’s done some classy things like getting all the Flames out of the dressing room to shake Lindens hand on Linden Retirement night (Has anyone been forced into retirement by sheer public respect like Linden was) but he’s also done some douche things, like wanting Bertuzzi on the Flames.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 2, 2008 8:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

NEWS

Avery Suspended by the NHL indefinitely today, for his comments above.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=395708

NHL suspends Stars’ Avery indefinitely
Tuesday, 12.02.2008 / 6:04 PM / News
NEW YORK — Dallas Stars forward Sean Avery has been suspended indefinitely, pending a hearing with NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman, in accordance with the provisions of NHL By-Law 17 and Article 6 of the NHL Constitution for conduct “detrimental to the League or game of hockey,” the National Hockey League announced today. The suspension was imposed following inappropriate public comments, not pertaining to the game, made by Avery earlier today.

The date for the hearing has not yet been scheduled.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 2, 2008 4:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Awesome. That’s how it’s done. Good to see the NHL taking a stand.

The Angry Avalanche Nerd.

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2008 4:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I Disagree

While he’s a first class asshole and prick, suspending a guy for a not so subtle jab at another player, a harmless one at that, seems a bit draconian to me.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

It was classless. Saying stuff about a girlfriend/wife like that on the record is not acceptable. I’m a big believer in freedom of speech, but this comment was completely ridiculous. Avery is an employee of a company, and as such, he is an ambassador to what that company stands for. His gutter mouth should not spit on the image of the NHL.

The Angry Avalanche Nerd.

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

Yes

He’s an employee of the Dallas Stars. He said nothing about them.

I agree. It was classless, but I don’t see how it spits on the image of the NHL,and even if it does at some point the NHL is made up of a collection of individuals. In that collection are a lot of great guys (Sakic, Iginla, dare I even say Lidstrom) and some first class assholes (Avery, and Phaneuf for that matter). You can tell your employees to not say anything bad about the company (he didn’t) or not say anything bad about the league (again he didn’t) but he poked at a person of another company.

Part of free speech is allowing people to say completely inane things. I mean if he’s going to say that stuff he’s going to run himself right out of the league. Let him.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

True

But I definitely feel the suspension is warranted. Tom Hicks even said if the NHL didn’t suspend him, the Stars would have.

Personally, I like him in Dallas. It seems like he’s keeping them anchored to the basement.

The Angry Avalanche Nerd.

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2008 6:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

First, he did not just insult Dion Phadouche. He insulted a private citizen not associated with any specific club, and two, ditzy as she may be, she has at certain times been associated with the NHL itself, both for marketing, and for blogging on the official NHL website.

The big thing, also, is that freedom of speech protects one from the state, not from private companies (which includes not just clubs, but the entire NHL and NHLPA). These companies/organizations can take whatever action they want against the employee (the employee can, of course, challenge the decision and have it reversed). His words do reflect poorly on the NHL, and I think they were totally justified, and not at all draconian, in suspending him.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 2, 2008 8:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Amen

The NHL and Dallas Stars are in the business of selling a product and if they feel an employee made public statements which reflect poorly on that product, then they have every reason to suspend him…… It’s no different than the personal conduct policies in the NFL, guys get suspended even if they’re only suspected of committing certain actions/crimes, very much prior to a conviction.

Thats part of the price you pay for making all that bank to play a game for a living.

by jd21 on Dec 2, 2008 8:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I feel like the Stars have every right to suspend him, because they are his employer and he is a part of their franchise.

If i said something like this, my employer has every right to suspend me, however, the Government (whom my company works for) has absolutely no right to do so. I feel that it’s a similar situation. Tom Hicks signs his paycheck, not Gary Betteman, and therefore he has the right to suspend in this case. The league should only be doling out suspensions for criticisms of league employees (referee’s, Betteman, Colin Campbell) and also on ice incidents, which the NHL has power over.

Furthermore let’s be honest, if this were any other player would we feel the same way? I think Sean Avery’s being suspended in this case for being Sean Avery, not for the content of what he said. In all seriousness we have said a lot worse about Phadouche here on this site (including the nickname, Phadouche), so I have a hard time criticizing Avery for saying something I would probably say (well if I had boinked Cuthbert) and that was relatively harmless.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 9:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

With nothing else to add

but a desire to weigh in, I’ll just say I am with you completely on this one.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 2, 2008 10:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I make one correction

I would never say that… but only because I think I could have come up with something a lot more clever.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 11:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with Jibs. Your employer has the right to suspend/fire you for any reason that is not prohibited by law, so the NHL has the right to suspend Avery. But this ridiculous suspension is just another prime example of how the NHL is run by a bunch of morons. They suspend one player indefinitely for saying something akin to “Yo’ Momma…” and yet they issue a slap on the wrist to another player who basically maims and ends the career of another player. Seriously, you would think the NHL would have better things to do, like negotiating better national TV deals.

by Pookie on Dec 3, 2008 9:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

They have players in a commercial that uses Yo mamma jokes.

Yes I realize those were light hearted commercials and Avery was attention-whoring

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 9:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think what makes this insult different is the vulgar misogynist message that frankly doesn’t belong in public discourse, and the pre-meditation of his delivery.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 3, 2008 10:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

?

To be honest with you, I am not sure Avery’s comments were egregiously misogynist (if at all, they are of the playground trash-talking variety, versus a lot of other things that go on in this world). I saw the Avery interview last night on Versus and I basically saw an immature ass smirking and trash-talking a rival (in many senses). As far as premeditation, if he’s thinking at all, he’s enjoying the thought that he’s going to piss off his next game’s opponents. Vulgar? Maybe, but I’ll bet he can be a lot , lot more vulgar than that.

I’m not an expert on misogynism or feminism, but among other things, I have worked on women’s issues at a couple of national women’s rights organizations. There’s a lot of misogynism going on in the world, but that one interview by Sean Avery, that would go to the bottom of the list of priorities for a lot of people concerned with the issue.

by Pookie on Dec 3, 2008 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

So

Is calling an ex-girlfriend a slut (which is essentially what he did) misogynistic? I think it’s more an insult hurled at an individual than an indictment of and entire gender.

And of course it was premeditated, but so what? He wanted as much attention as he could possibly get and by suspending him indefinitely (which is longer than say Ziegler got for his dangerous hit) you’re giving him more attention, and sending the message that insulting a player is a worse offense than dangerous hits.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Why don’t you and Avery make out already? Obviously you love him and want to have like 10,000 of his babies.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And take Cuthbert’s sloppy seconds?

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 2:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

zing!

by StructuralPoke on Dec 3, 2008 3:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

Obviously theres freedom of speech but I would have thought, not being a law expert, that it wouldn’t necessarily apply to Private companies, which I assume the NHL is, and that they can suspend people for disparaging comments. Plus I don’t want it to end up like NFL and NBA with a bunch of dumb thugs saying stupid, antagonistic crap. It’s not worth teh media attention it would get.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 3:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Tom Hicks signs his paycheck, not Gary Betteman, and therefore he has the right to suspend in this case. The league should only be doling out suspensions for criticisms of league employees (referee’s, Betteman, Colin Campbell) and also on ice incidents, which the NHL has power over.

Sean Avery is a member of the NHLPA, which has a collective bargaining agreement with the NHL. He is an employee of the NHL and is subject to their rules and codes of conduct. Obviously, since Bettman suspended him, the league has authority over the players that supersedes the authority of their own teams. The league is absolutely within their rights to suspend him for his public comments as a representative of his team and the league as a whole.

The NFL has suspended players for similar code of conduct infractions.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 6:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And again

I don’t think he violated this code of conduct, at least not based on the NHL’s rational behind the suspension.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 9:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

NFL

the NFL is draconian and one of the major complaints about the NFL is that Rodger Goodell is judge, jury, and executioner.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

But he has the right to be that way.

I just don’t have much sympathy for players who make millions of dollars and are only expected to have tact and not shoot each other (or themselves). It’s not that hard.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 9:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

you could argue he shouldn’t have that right, since the NFL is a bona-fide monopoly he has the ability to exert control on the players livelyhood because they cannot go anywhere else to earn a comparable lifestyle.

Besides players are first and foremost humans. Expecting them to be shill robots crosses the line in my book.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 9:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

you could argue he shouldn’t have that right, since the NFL is a bona-fide monopoly he has the ability to exert control on the players livelyhood because they cannot go anywhere else to earn a comparable lifestyle.

Oh, you can argue just about anything, but that’s not the reality. I mean, it is reality in that the NFL is a monopoly, but it’s a government-sanctioned monopoly and nobody has told Goodell he can’t do what he’s done. Bettman is just following his lead.

As for shill robots, for a couple million dollars a year I’d wear a metal suit and hand out autographed pictures of Bettman shaking hands with Stalin. I couldn’t care less.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 10:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

True

It’s not reality, but just because he has the power doesn’t make it right. I’d also be willing to bet the Players Association could make a strong case that the suspension is unwarranted, especially based upon suspensions for hits that could hurt people seriously.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 1:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

No doubt about it the NHLPA will be getting involved in this, if the suspension ends up lasting longer than just a couple of games. And I don’t disagree that the league’s priorities are way messed up when they’re making a big deal out of Avery’s big mouth while dirty hits and major injuries are going relatively unpunished.

But as far as justification, the league is justified in doing whatever they want to do, right or not. And since it’s their corporate rules and not my own, I don’t want to make a moral judgment. Blame the budding lawyer in me. I can see both arguments.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 2:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I can see the NHL's argument

`but since it’s a public relations ploy anyways I think they handeled it wrong.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

Brian Burke and Kevin Lowe had a public name calling match last season in which they called each other “moron”, “gutless” and other names. I think two General Managers having a public pissing match and name calling are way more harmful to the league’s image than a known trouble-maker making a crude, yet neither of them were punished at all.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 9:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And

You may recall, the league commissioner personally intervened in that dispute instituting a gag rule, where if either party continued the public discussion of the topic, they would be suspended and fined.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 2, 2008 11:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

after over a year of childish bickering. No fines were actually issues. Yet Avery makes one juvenile comment and indefinite suspension.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 12:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

1 more

All 30 NHL clubs are not companies independent of the NHL. The NHL must approve every player transaction occurring between clubs, as well as communication between the NHLPA and clubs. The NHLPA does not communicate with clubs, but with the NHL. The NHL is the governing body, the corporate offices if you will, while the 30 Clubs are independently owned franchises, but of the same central corporation. The NHL is first authority in both league-wide and team-specific transactions. The NHL reserves the right to suspend an entire teams operations. Those are the terms of entry into the national hockey league, a cession of authority to the governing corporate body.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 2, 2008 11:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Except

They don’t have full discretion on suspensions. It’s negotiated with the players union, and I sincerely doubt there’s a clause saying a player can be suspended for being a jerk.

And yes a league going around suspending players for perceived damage is draconian, and has the potential to quickly turn into “Don’t say anything negative or you’ll get suspended.” This is hardly a case of a player doing something detrimental to the league. Nothing Avery said did any damage to the NHL, none.

This is a plain and simple double-standard. If Komisarek says this disappears. While I hate Avery, he’s a player in the league and deserves to be treated the same as every other player, and in this case it’s pretty clear he isn’t getting fair treatment.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2008 11:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think

we will just have to agree to disagree.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 3, 2008 6:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

We’ll have none of that here. You must disagree to disagree.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 7:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Never!

by James Mirtle on Dec 3, 2008 8:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

But Burke and Lowe were both told to end it or the league would step in. Also their comments were directed at each other. Avery’s comment wasn’t so much directed at Phadouche as it was at Cuthbert. If Burke and Lowe had been making derogatory remarks about the other guy’s wife I bet more would have happened.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Dec 3, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I think most of it had to do with Avery directing it at Cuthbert, If it was directed solely at Phadouche I doubt the league would have done much, but involve a well know celebrity who also does some promotional work for the NHL and they had too. They’re mostly worried about how Cuthbert will react and don’t want her to involve lawyers, always possible in this sue-happy world or her to stop promoting the NHL.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 7:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Whatev!

1. I don’t understand how you think his comments were directed at what’s her name. It’s clear he’s trying to rile the Flames, especially Phaneuf, and get under their collective skins.
2. If you are a public figure and you date another public figure, you never know what will get out in the media.
3. If you are dumb enough to date some complete jerks like Sean Avery and Dion Phaneuf, then you deserve whatever happens. I mean, what the hell — these dudes are fugly, in addition to being assholes.
4. There isn’t anything Cuthbert or her lawyers can do to the NHL about this. You all have some seriously unrealistic notions about lawyers and lawsuits.
5. The NHL can definitely use some help with promoting the sport, but I seriously doubt her involvement matters. How about some decent & entertaining players promoting the NHL, thank you.

by Pookie on Dec 3, 2008 8:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

They were aimed at Cuthbert since he stated it was aimed at his “sloppy seconds” when everyone knows he dated Cuthbert before Phaneuf did. Like Mirtle said on his blog, there’s no need to involve family members in personal attacks on players.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 9:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

At least, not in public

Apparently.

I don’t get why the term’s supposedly derogatory, to be honest.

by eltharion_doa on Dec 5, 2008 3:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, talk crap about family and friends on the ice, and take the ass kicking you will recieve like a man. But keep that crap out of the public.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 5, 2008 3:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we need Joe’s well educated, informed opinion on the first amendment, here.

Red Wings Suck

by texacogirl on Dec 2, 2008 11:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahahahahahahahaha

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 3, 2008 12:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That could take awhile.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 3:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Constitutional Law isn’t until next year, but I know enough to know this isn’t a First Amendment issue.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 6:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Steinbrenner

What year do they cover Steinbrenner?

by jd21 on Dec 3, 2008 8:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s a third year elective.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 9:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn’t agree more Braxtan.

by James Mirtle on Dec 3, 2008 8:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wanted Dustin Brown to beat the crap out of him, Just before the Kings Stars game they had an interview with Brown talking about how much he hated Avery for making fun of his speech impediment, which annoys the hell out of me since I also have an impediment and now how annoying it is when people make fun of it. At least teh Kings players stood up for Brown when it came time to fight in the locker room.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 2, 2008 5:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I’m slightly disappointed by the suspension, only because tonight’s game might have actually been interesting.

The Angry Avalanche Nerd.

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2008 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

In case you’re interested, Jones and Engblom said last night on Versus (when they aired the Avery interview comments) that one of the reasons the NHL suspended Avery is “to avoid another Steve Moore-type of incident.” That the NHL was protecting him and protecting Flames players who would have been sticking up for Phadouche.

I actually really like Jones and Engblom, but sorry, that f***ing cracked me up. What a bunch of bull. What happened to the self-policing that ALL the NHL’ers are always claiming is the best way to deal with these sort of things?

One thing that Jones & Engblom said that did make sense is that Avery has been such a trouble-maker that the NHL was just waiting for him to do something to get on his case. But does anyone think this suspension is going to “break” Avery and turn him into something other than who he is? He obviously doesn’t think the NHL “code” (where doing pushups after scoring a goal is a more heinous sin than breaking another player’s neck) applies to him; I doubt he’s going to change. This suspension is just about helping the NHLers who hate him feel better.

by Pookie on Dec 3, 2008 12:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

In defense of “the code,” doing push ups after a goal is kind of douchey.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 12:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

In case you’re interested, Jones and Engblom said last night on Versus (when they aired the Avery interview comments) that one of the reasons the NHL suspended Avery is "to avoid another Steve Moore-type of incident." That the NHL was protecting him and protecting Flames players who would have been sticking up for Phadouche.

As someone at From the Rink said:

I find the comparison to the Moore incident to be downright disturbing. If the NHL (and it’s fans and media) are so concerned that this could escalate to a Moore-level incident, then this conversation should not be about controlling Sean Avery’s dumb mouth, it should be about controlling the psychos on the ice.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 1:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The subtext here is that they know they CAN’T control the psychos on the ice, and are doing the next “best” thing—-removing the instigator. It’s the same thing they tried with the actual instigator penalty and that was a mistake, too.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Dec 3, 2008 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

We won’t talk about the instigator penalty here.

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Damn

I would have had something to say for like the first time in weeks.

by TheRed on Dec 3, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

torn

It’s unfortunate because while an idiot, he was taking shots at Phadouche, which I have a hard time condemning. I’m sure the suspension was more relative to his inexcusable references to women, and was completely deserved. I would’ve loved to see Iginla stick it to him, however.

by jd21 on Dec 2, 2008 8:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

She's hot

Am I suppose to have a more considered opinon?

…

Avery’s a tosser, but this was a pretty harmless frat boy crack in my opinion. Yeah, it’s classless, but that’s life. Jocks are (mostly) morons. If the Stars feel he’s harmed their reputation, then by all means they should punish him, but for the NHL to come rushing in with an indefinite suspension? Pretty crazy.

by eltharion_doa on Dec 2, 2008 10:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Here’s the interview where he said it. If anyone is interested.

(via deadspin)

by StructuralPoke on Dec 3, 2008 10:18 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

?

Where’d the link go I made?

I know I put it in this time…

by StructuralPoke on Dec 3, 2008 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

WTF?
http://deadspin.com/5101334/sean-averys-infamous-sloppy-second-interview

by StructuralPoke on Dec 3, 2008 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I missed out

I get sick for a couple days and miss the entire discussion…oh well…

The Angry Avalanche Nerd.

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

You really didn’t miss anything.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 5, 2008 8:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Decision is in

Avery gets six games.

While I am a full proponent of him being suspended, I think this is 3-4 games too many. I thought it merited 2-3 games.

Mir ist egal.

by Selanne on Dec 5, 2008 10:13 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Like I’ve stated elsewhere, the NHL just effectively said that hits to the head and the knees are, in most instances, less detrimental to the league and players than talking about some guy(s) girlfriend.

If you could see me, I’d be rolling my eyes…

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 5, 2008 11:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I only have a problem with the length of the suspension because that butt munch Zeiler got a shorter suspension. How does Avery get 6 games for running his mouth (even as a repeat offender) and Zeiler only gets 3 after injuring a player? Not to mention Zeiler’s back on the ice playing while Foote is not.

I think it sends the wrong message….

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Dec 5, 2008 12:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs