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Thinking In Burgundy

Here are some random mostly-Avalanche related thoughts and observations. My apologies to any fans of both emo and the Avalanche - I just totally stole the perfect future blog name from you.

  • The solid play of Daniel Tjarnqvist would seem to make the team more comfortable to trade a defenseman like Brett Clark or Jordan Leopold for some help up front. But it might also be boosting his own trade value - if the Avs don't move one of their top 6, "Tjarnie" might be a good deadline aquisition for someone.
  • Yes, I'm bummed about Sakic. But, I'd rather have him in April and May rather than November and December.
  • That obviously goes for Peter Forsberg, too.
  • I can't help but notice that Stephane Yelle has more points than Sanjaya Arnason.
  • Speaking of upcoming free agents, the Avs don't have many notable players hitting the market next July (Lappy, Arnie, Leopold...) but the year after that? Look out: Hejduk, Tucker (buh-bye), Svatos, Clark, Salei, Foote.
  • I don't really care too much about Sean Avery. But...
  • As many people have pointed out, the NHL looks pretty stupid for suspending Avery when so many others before him have said worse. It sure seems like the league is trying to follow the NFL's lead here. Par for the course for the suits who run the NHL - when in doubt, just do what good leagues do. Then again, this is a league that instituted a new rule during the playoffs.
  • I've also heard some people say that it would have been better for Avery to play so that Phaneuf could handle the "punishment" himself. I guess those people are not familiar with the two cowards ...er, highly selective players involved.
  • My favorite part is how clear it is that Avery's own teammates hate him. Certainly, that's nothing new - as the end of this old Ian Laperriere interview reminds us - but geez, yesterday marked just 5 months to the day since Avery signed with the Stars. Don't worry, Dallas fans, just 3 1/2 more years to put up with your diminutive clubhouse cancer.

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I get warm and fuzzy when I think about the possibility of Forsberg coming back, no matter how slim those chances really are, and I’m not ashamed to admit it.

The artist formerly known as ClaudeLemieux

by JonHaven on Dec 3, 2008 4:06 PM MST reply actions  

FA after this year should be pretty tame, if the avs don’t go after a big name guy. I still actually think the Avs are likely to land Jay Bouwmeester — it’s a perfect match, and we actually could use the shakeup at this point, imo. Only sticking point would be if Florida is set on Stastny in return, which would kill the deal. I don’t see a path to his acquisition that doesn’t involve trading at least Wolski away though, one of Hensick or Svatos, and one of our solid minute munchers (probably Clark). that’s a steep price, especially if we don’t have a promise he’ll re-sign here.

I do hope we bring Lappy back though. One of the best FA acquisitions the Avs have ever made, right after Bruno. Leopold? I’m not so high on him to begin with, and I predict he gets massively overpaid if he stays healthy. I’d be more comfortable trying to bring along a younger guy (Nigel Williams?). Arny, well, if he’s re-signed I quit. Stoa might actually plug in perfectly as a 3rd line center next year, as he appears to be 100% and well not return for his redshirt senior year.

by thedoctor on Dec 3, 2008 4:42 PM MST reply actions  

I don't think we make a move for Boumeester

I think, as good as he is, he’s a bit overrated right now. To that note, I think Leopold has been playing better of late, and has almost looked like an actual QB of the PP. I think if he keeps rounding his game out, we should definitely make an attempt to bring him back.

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 3, 2008 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

I’ll just have to name my emo-avs blog “Thinking in unipron.” or “The Burgundy Parade”

I believe in Peter Budaj

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 3, 2008 5:15 PM MST reply actions  

“My Avalanche Romance.”

by InYoFace on Dec 3, 2008 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

“Dreaming Of Uniprons” was my 2nd choice

The artist formerly known as Draft Dodger

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 3, 2008 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Would you really want an Emo blogging for the Avs, surely he’d have reached suicidal and probably necked himself by now. Not trying to offend Emo’s too much but I don’t like you and you’r whining.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 7:52 PM MST up reply actions  

this is an excellent point

The artist formerly known as Draft Dodger

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 3, 2008 8:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I like how you use Emo as a noun rather than an adjective.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Dec 4, 2008 6:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t need your fancy english lesson here.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Surely they’ll buy him out.

Surely.

by eltharion_doa on Dec 3, 2008 7:35 PM MST reply actions  

Can only help their team if they do

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 3, 2008 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

They all H-A-T-E hate him. It was palpable in the interviews on Tuesday.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 4, 2008 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s strange, he’s usually beloved by every team he plays for.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Dec 4, 2008 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

My favorite comment about Avery thus far:


“What a moron,” Laperriere said.

When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too!

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 4, 2008 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Lappy must retire wearing the Burgundy and Blue.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Dec 4, 2008 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I second that motion!

When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too!

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 4, 2008 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll give a third to carry the motion

‘all in favor…’

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Dec 4, 2008 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Aye.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Dec 4, 2008 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Aye

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe this is what was needed

I thin k the Avs are searchin for their next cap “i” tan. We all know It’s Stastny for the taking—but Is he ready? With Joe being out “6 weeks”—-really until March It’s the perfect trial run Smyth will continue as well as Lappy . PREDICTION come FEB 1st—-LAPPY A SMYTH A and STASTY C. Lame “A” pold Gone!

by deady18 on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 PM MST reply actions  

I wouldnt jump to Stastny (or anyone for that matter) being captain but ol Super Joe. Even if Joe was out for the rest of the year, that C aint coming off…

I even think that Foote or Smyth would be the next to wear the “C” next year if Sakic hangs up the gloves (how bout them apples?). Stastny is not ready right now in my opinion.

Leopold has truly had a horrble string of bad luck with injuries. I think he is worthy of keeping around as long as the price is fair, nothing like Finger or even Clark got. He is a solid player, and has shown what he can do now that he has been healthy. He is only 28, and we could possibly get a relatively good deal on a contract for him while he is in his prime years for a D.

GO AVS

by slapshotr2007 on Dec 4, 2008 12:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

The Leopold hate is baffling to me. He’s been hurt a lot, and now that he’s healthier, his game is improving. Yes, he’s played mediocre overall this year, but which name one defenseman who has consistently played solid, Liles notwithstanding. I think Leopold is going to continue to improve and by the end of the year, this flippant disregard for his ability will fall by the wayside.

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 4, 2008 1:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I think a fair bit of the hate is to do with the fact he’s injured alot and its pointless having a top D man who’s always injured but he has played decent lately and we need him, or someone like him, to continue shooting from the point to allow Symth to do his job properly.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 1:40 AM MST up reply actions  

I understand being frustrated by the injuries

but when he’s been healthy, he hasn’t been bad. I’ve ripped him numerous times for his shitty play when it’s warranted, but overall I think he has had an okay season. He’s certainly been more impressive to me than a guy like Salei, who has been a massive disappointment in my eyes thus far. I can understand people calling to be rid of Leopold at the beginning of the season, but now that he’s finding his legs and starting to find a groove, people just want to dump his ass? What?

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 4, 2008 3:39 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m with you, If he stays healthy then we should keep him and his low salary and get rid of someone like Clark with his large salary.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I can see them giving Stazz the C for a few years if they can avoid it. My guess is Foote will have it next year and then probably Symth or Lappy if they’re both still around. Wait till SOS has a bit more experience and give him the A. He doesn’t need the added pressure of the C.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 1:42 AM MST up reply actions  

That should be I CAN’T see them giving him the C

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 1:43 AM MST up reply actions  

team more comfortable to trade a defenseman like […] Jordan Leopold

I don’t see that happening, honestly. He’s one of the players I respect most, because he took a rather big pay-cut, just to remain on this team to prove himself.

I’d rather have (Sakic) in April and May rather than November and December.

Assuming our play-off chances aren’t dead and buried by then.

but the year after that? Hejduk, Tucker, Svatos, Clark, Salei, Foote.

Hejduk and Foote either retire as Avs or will continue to play as Avs.
Clark needs to get a pay cut or sod off.
Svats, I honestly don’t know how I feel about him. He’s starting to look like trade-bait more and more.
Tucker, No one cares. He’s a pig.
Salei, I’d be pretty bummed, but I’m sure every team needs to lose their quality players at some point.

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Dec 4, 2008 1:56 AM MST reply actions  

Since Leo dropped his salary from $3.5m to $1.5m, I hate him 85% less.

by eltharion_doa on Dec 4, 2008 1:58 AM MST reply actions  

Once again, math wins.

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 4, 2008 8:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Wait, is my head supposed to hurt reading about hockey?

I should have to think in mathematical equations.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Dec 4, 2008 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Should or shouldn’t?

Colorado Avalanche: Gellin' and Propellin'!!!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 4, 2008 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Shouldn't

No-one should have to think about Math this early in the morning, Or unless they’r etrying to work out the exchange rate. It’s still in the shitter for anyone that cares.

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Dec 4, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

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