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WCQ Game 4: Avalanche 5, Wild 1

How a team wins can say a lot about them.  How a team loses can say even more.  If that's true, then the resounding message from the Minnesota Wild's 5-1 loss to the Avalanche last night was "We're pathetic."  After falling behind four goals to none in the second period, the Wild gave up completely and decided to spend the rest of the game trying to injure their opposition.  It was shameful.

119 penalty minutes, including seven misconducts and two unsportsmanlike conducts pretty much sums up what the Wild are all about.  They didn't come into game 4 looking to play hockey.  They came looking to make Mark Kiszla---who wrote a piece lamenting the cheap, dirty play of the Wild prior to game 4---look like a soothsayer.

Anywhere the Wild goes, flowers wilt, the sky turns gray and beauty dies.

After three games, can there be any doubt?

This series is doomed to be a bloody mess.

The moans and groans from the Wild fanbase were loud and obnoxious.  You have to have some pretty thick blinders on to ignore how shameful Minnesota has played this series.  I understand homerism, of course, but when Cody McLeod started going for knees during the regular season, every person here at MHH called him out.  There's no reason to ever try to hurt an opposing player on purpose.  That kind of dangerous bush leaguery has no place in the NHL.  

Mike Russo at the Star Tribune ridiculed Kiszla prior to game 4:

When an article is so absurd and based on such little facts, to me, it’s almost comical, so calm down. Obviously the writer doesn’t know hockey. Obviously the writer doesn’t watch playoff hockey. Obviously the writer hasn’t watched the Calgary-San Jose series. Obviously the writer has never heard of the Broad Street Bullies. Obviously the writer doesn’t know the Wild’s makeup.

Russo, to his credit, acknowledged his own moronity this morning and gave Kiszla his due, but it still doesn't erase the fact that the majority of people who support the Wild are incapable of an honest perspective about this series.

To deny that the Wild, specifically the five players pictured above (Voros, Veilleux, Boogaard, Johnsson and Fedoruk) were somehow picked on by the officials is to have your head firmly up your ass.  But leave it to Wild fans to do just that:

Look, I'll concede the fact that the Wild dug themselves a hole with several defensive lapses - here's looking at you, Martin Skoula - but the officiating in this game was terrible. The Wild racked up 111 penalty minutes and the Avalanche spent nearly a whole period's worth of ice time on the power play. Minnesota spent just over 7 minutes on the power play, and most of that came after the game was already out of hand. I'd write more on how lopsided the officiating was, but by doing that I'd be heavily acknowledging said referees for their role.

Yes, the reason the Wild were so penalized was because of lopsided officiating.  I've taken the officiating of this series to task way too many times so far, but only because the Wild have gotten away with murder.  They finally get called for being the petty cheap shot artists that they are and now they're mistreated?  Ridiculous.

Stephane Veilleux especially embarrassed his team throughout the night, and should be suspended for a feet-leaving boarding penalty on Paul Stastny in the third period.  Veilleux clearly tried to hurt Stastny, and just because Stastny got right up doesn't make the play okay.

Minnesota, your hockey team is a joke and so are your fans.  The only guy who deserves an ounce of respect is Star Tribune columnist Patrick Reusse, who called out the Wild and their fans for being said pathetic jokes.

Even if the Avs end up losing this series, it won't justify the Wild's tactics in the least.


photo courtesy of David Zalubowski/AP
 

Now, as for the Avalanche, they came out early with a vengeance, just like we all hoped they would.  Three fast goals, including one by Tyler Arnason, and the game was already over.  Andrew Brunette, Wojtek Wolski (on the fourth line, WTF?!), Arnason, Milan Hejduk and Ruslan Salei were the goal scorers for Colorado.  The only goal against Jose Theodore was scored shorthanded by Mikko Koivu, but the replay showed that a horribly missed offsides call was the only reason it was possible.  So, if there was one really awful screw up by the refs, it was that missed call.

Coach Q looks like a genius this morning, too, because he made some great calls.  Playing Jordan Leopold over Jeff Finger worked like a charm (two assists and a ton of great work in his own zone), and sitting Peter Forsberg for the entirety of the third period kept him safe and let him rest.  Q, good work.

But don't get too high on yourself, buddy.  The power play is still god awful.  Just two goals on thirteen chances is 15%.  Yeah, that's better than the season average for the Avalanche, but it's still horrible.  The score should have been 7-1.

The series is now tied heading back into Minnesota for game 5.  I hope that the Wild decide to play hockey from this point on, and to redeem themselves for their douchery.  But I have a feeling we haven't seen an end to the crap they've been pulling all series, or to the endless string of stupidity flowing from the keyboards of their fans.

Such is life.

Stars of the Game:

  1. Ruslan Salei (1g, 1a)
  1. Tyler Arnason (1g, 1a)
  1. Jordan Leopold (0g, 2a)

Kittens Killed:

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Save the Kittens! Oh, too late.
That is one big bloody mess of fur. Can the Avs stand around doing nothing any more on the 5 on 3?
Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Apr 16, 2008 7:18 AM MDT reply actions  

That right there

is a kitten holocaust.  There better be an international tribunal in the offseason to get Q and Granato to pay for the crimes against kitten-anity.

Oh, and ChrisSnider had an awesome idea for Wolski's nickname for the playoffs.

Wojtek "FUHQ" Wolski

Simple.  Elegant.  True.

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 16, 2008 8:11 AM MDT reply actions  

Re: That right there
Is that a jab at Q? If it is I fully endorse!
Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Apr 16, 2008 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Re: That right there

Please, for those not in the know, share with us exactly what "FUHQ" stands for.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's a classic bit of trivia

from Ben Affleck's and Matthew McConaughey's seminal masterpiece Dazed and Confused.  In this quintessential coming-of-age tale, the just promoted Seniors are hunting down the just promoted Freshman at the beginning of the summer break before their last/first year of high school.  The Seniors torture the stalwart Freshmen by paddling them.  One of the dastardly Seniors brandishes a paddle emblazoned with the word "Fuh-Q" (say it slowly, and you'll get the joke).

I'm sure it originated somewhere else, but that was the first time I'd ever heard the joke, and it stuck.

That's why I nominate Wolski as the Commander-in-Chief of the FUHQ Brigade.  Recently, Leoprone has been promoted to Brigadier General, while Hlinka is still holding down his Lt. JG ranking.

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 16, 2008 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Re: It's a classic bit of trivia

Perhaps a slight revision is in order:

It was "FAH Q" in the movie.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I prefer

the anglicanized version.  I'm from the south remember.

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 17, 2008 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

FUHQ

It is a phonetic slam at Q. Mike @ MHH is always saying Wojtek "Bench Me Again M.F." Wolski. I just shortened it and got the "Q slam" (tm) in as well

by StructuralPoke on Apr 16, 2008 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I win!

I guessed right!

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Apr 16, 2008 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Official

I'm not allowed to watch any game on my TV from now on.

I've watched games 1-3 on my personal TV, game 4 on my cousin's 50" TV.

I think I should sacrifice my TV to the hockey gods...

by Drakenlot on Apr 16, 2008 8:22 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree

I fully endorse that decision Drakenlot.  You really have no choice in the matter now.

For my part, I signed all my credit card reciepts (Starbucks and the gas station) with "Go Avs!" yesterday.  No one ever looks at your signature anymore.  My wife drank water from my old Arbys Avalanche promotional glass featuring Reinprecht, Foote and Forsberg.  You bet your ass that all those things will happen again on Thursday.

by Dario on Apr 16, 2008 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Glasses

I have a couple of those. I've got the Roy, Tanguay, Hejduk one, and the Sakic, Kariya one. Unfortunately, they're at home, and I'm at college. Sweet glasses though.

by Rather Dashing on Apr 16, 2008 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm....

that's actually a little tempting. Too bad I'm a poor college student. That, and I really don't want to drink out of something with Skoula on it.

by Rather Dashing on Apr 16, 2008 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Skoula

The Skoula glass won't hurt you unless you turn your back on it.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

I now must

Miss every game live and watch them between midnight and 1:30 on my DVR.  Crap, that is going to be tough.

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 16, 2008 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

We now

can't watch at all, other than to check the score.  I don't know if Mike will follow this or not, but he can't even post on this blog...

by Mrs @ MHH on Apr 16, 2008 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

So when will we know

whether or not Veilleux gets suspended for the blatant and dangerous cheap shot on Stastny?  Man, that was just brutal.  I watched the whole game after my wife got home on my DVR.  The only huge negative I took out of it from the Avs' perspective was that the PP is still pretty pathetic, especially the 5-on-3s.  Has any NHL team ever been worse on the 5-on-3?

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 16, 2008 9:17 AM MDT reply actions  

shocking!

no Bruce Ciskie blog this morning.

by thedoctor on Apr 16, 2008 11:03 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah

I'm pretty suprised how fired up the whole State of Hockey got from Kizla.  I knew the SOH was distracted by Lappy but that's nothing compared to the ire caused by Kiz who writes hockey columns just to tick someone off.  Bruce took that hook, line and sinker.

by Dario on Apr 16, 2008 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Re: Yeah

They've really been uptight during the entire series starting with the last game of the season.

First it was the "Lappy picks on us" whining, then the "Forsberg's a diver but we really wanted him on our team but he snubbed us," fiasco, followed then by the "Kiszla's an idiot and our team plays clean" dust up, and finally now they've shifted to "the refs pick on us!"

It's pretty funny, albeit also very sad.

Other than some moaning about the refs not calling obvious penalties (committed by both teams, Hejduk), the general consensus here has been "our team needs to shape up and play better."  

And we're the idiots.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Re: shocking!

I just couldn't resist adding a comment of my own.  Man, that guy continuously sullies the whole crew at Fanhouse, most of whom are stand up fellows.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I have not been impressed with his work. It's homer to the nth degree. I know guys like Sleek and even Wyshanski are homers, but they aren't to the point that it let's them cloud their judgement. Ciskie's stuff has been brutally bad.

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 16, 2008 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Re: Yeah

Besides, that's why guys like Sleek and Golbez have their own blogs - so they can be homers on their own time.  Their work on Fanhouse is more general and they do a pretty good job of being even-handed.

Ciskie, as we both agree, doesn't even pretend.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Re: epilogue

Not a chance.  Forsberg will suffer a concussion from a Boogaard cheap shot in game 5 and Ciskie will accuse him of exaggerating the injury.

With a fan base like that, the Wild belong in the Eastern Conference.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wish..

I wish I had seen this. They really lost their minds and that's great. And finally a game that was not close at all. We have proved we can win this series. And at the same time we have beaten the world record for the largest number of kittens killed in a hockey game.

Almost 5,000 miles away... It's the Portuguese Avs Fan!

by LuisAvs on Apr 16, 2008 11:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Re: I wish...

Despite the score, this game was painful to watch.  By the middle of the third period we were all desperate for it to be over.  Honestly.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't know

as I shan't be watching any of the remaining games in this series.

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 16, 2008 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I started

Watching the Sharks- Flames game to be honest. This game got boring real quick

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 16, 2008 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Record

Which BTW, we probably set earlier this year.

by Drakenlot on Apr 16, 2008 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mourning

Let us partake in a moment of silence devoted to all the poor kittens who were mercilessly taken from us last night, the poor things never had a chance **silence**

Seriously, our PP better get better.

by Mike the Avs Fan on Apr 16, 2008 12:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Re: Mourning

At this point, I think I'm resigned to the fact that the PP isn't going to get better.  Ever.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 16, 2008 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Avs Bar in Boston?

I'm stuck in Bean Town tomorrow for the hockey game. There is no VS coverage tomorrow night either. Does anyone know of any Avs bars, or good bars near the financial district that has the Center Ice package? Much appreciated, My Fellow Avs Freaks!

by Fletch @ Mile High Hockey on Apr 16, 2008 4:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Sorry

Boston is not my forte.. might check a Bruins blog and ask about good hockey bars in the area, I'm sure there are some.

Or google "Boston financial district sports bars" and give them a call

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 16, 2008 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap

There are 205 comments on Dater's game recap article.  That rivals our game day thread from last night.  Amazing.  

by texacogirl on Apr 16, 2008 6:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Re: Holy Crap

I don't mean to nitpick here, by our 345 comments is quite a few more than 205.  And considering that half of those at the Post were along the lines of "Adrian you're stupid," I'd say MHH won out.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 17, 2008 6:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

I Noticed That

My comment count for the thread wasn't updated when I looked at our count.  My bad. *blush. It still amazed me, that Dater could inspire that many comments good or bad, though.

by texacogirl on Apr 17, 2008 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dater AWOL as Always

I would love to know what's going on today in AvsLand. Where are you Adrian? I hate to say it, mainly because I HATE THE WILD, but their reporter is better than our reporter. I know there was a Sox game on, and that can distract you. But come on Dater, best of three series right now, crunch time for our burgundy and white boys, where are you??? Time to bring home the bacon and report something, blog it up, prove you are worth it in an industry dying faster than an obese guy with a coke habit.
Avs Fans, here's what went on in the Wild practice today. There is even some insight on the Avs. I HATE relying on WILD reporters to give me the news. http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/wil...

Congrats on the new child Adrian, stay home with the baby or get to covering the beasts.

by Fletch @ Mile High Hockey on Apr 17, 2008 12:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Re: Dater AWOL

And the worst part about relying on the Wild reporters for news is that half of their perspectives are so ridiculously inaccurate that it boggles the mind.

They're definitely in the playoff mood, that's for sure.

by Joe Dunman on Apr 17, 2008 6:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Veilleux must miss

the rest of the series at least, he got more air on that boarding hit against SOS than Nate Adams at the X games. Even the VS announcers were surprised and shocked that it wasn't a 5min major and the only reason it wasn't is because Stazz got up. That 3rd period seemed to last as long as Game 3. Every stoppage there was a cheap shot by the Wild trying to get the Avs to fight but they didn't which was good. In the words of the great Ron Burgandy, "Stay classy, Colorado" and "Go Fuck yourself, Minnesota"

Now to the random thoughts in my head while watching the game.

Budaj is the only Goalie i've seen that doesn't wear a hat on the bench, which i find odd being such a hat man myself.

Harding's pads are an incredibly ugly colour, much Like Smith's pads where when he was a Star.

And Finally, does anyone have  a good picture of the Backplate on our Goalies Mask, i couldn't get a good look at it during the game and i want to see the 33 and elephant he has on it.

by Savage33 on Apr 17, 2008 4:50 AM MDT reply actions  

Re: Veilleux

Budaj is the only Goalie i've seen that doesn't wear a hat on the bench, which i find odd being such a hat man myself.

That's because he wants all the ladies to get a good look that HE'S not the balding goalie on the team!

Harding's pads are an incredibly ugly colour, much Like Smith's pads where when he was a Star.

That's is surprising because a while back he was rocking some killer vintage leather brown-colored pads and gloves.  Looked good with the then-green Minny jerseys.  He seems to have gone the Turco/MAF route with the shiny-shiny pads.  Though MAF has now switched to white.

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 17, 2008 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Goalie Pads

I'm disappointed in Turco, he used to have some awesome all dark green pads but he's changed them to that ugly yellow/gold that Smith had, i assume to match they're ugly jerseys(They're old ones looked killer as well) and DiPietro's taken a step back going from his navy and orange Itechs to all white, although last time i saw him(All star game) he had 4 orange and navy stripes in the top corner of his 5 hole and the rest was white. Fluery's pads were way to bright when he had the yellow one's so i'm glad he changed to white. Gerber has some pretty nice pads(Black and Red) Both the Avs goalies have some pretty nice looking pads.
Well that's it for my goaltender pad reviews.

by Savage33 on Apr 18, 2008 3:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

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