SCF Open Thread: Homebase to Root Against the Wings
by texacogirl on May 23, 2008 9:43 PM MDT
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PrintThis year's Stanley Cup finals should be absolutely exciting since the Avalanche are front runners to win the Cup.
Wait. Oh yeah, I remember. The Avs were demolished by the hated Wings in the second round. I'm still bitter. Oh well. Better luck next year. Moving on...
Maggie the Monkey picked the Penguins to win the series. Since a monkey is the prognosticator of all prognosticators, it doesn't matter what the other talking heads say. The last time Pittsburgh and Detroit met was October 7, 2006 and the Wings won that game 2-0. One game, nearly two years ago, does not create a basis of comparison for these teams. Their respective 2008 playoff records provide a couple of clues about the teams, though. Detroit had a rough ride in the first round against the scrappy Nashville Predators and Hasek laying an egg. The Pens swept the series in the first round. Colorado was swept in the second round by the Wings (that was very painful to write) while the Pens knocked out the NY Rangers in five. The Pens also prevailed in 5 to wrap up the Eastern Conference finals while the Wings went six in the west. The Wings playoff record tells me they are more beatable than the Pens. The Hinny and Chelios are out and Gary Roberts is pissed at being benched for game one.
ESPN's cites the number 5 reason to watch the Finals is "The opportunity to relive the joy of rooting against a seemingly indestructible foe dressed in red". The article also cites 44 other lame reasons to watch the SCF but what do you expect? It's ESPN. They do point out one truth, though. The fate of the world is in Sid the Kid's hands. It's time to take down the Evil Empire because who wants to live in a world where the Wings win the Cup? Not this Avalanche fan, that's for sure.
On the cephalopod issue, Puck Daddy offers this quote from The Commish:
"Actually, there's a very good reason for it. We haven't fined or given a delay of game penalty for the throwing of the octopus because we understand and respect the tradition. Having said that, when you swing the octopus around - and I don't know the exact term for it -- but octopus 'gunk' gets on the ice and occasionally has gotten on the players -- the goaltenders -- as it goes by. Occasionally, when it freezes on the ice, it creates a potentially hazardous situation for the players. It's not about interfering with a tradition; it's about making sure nobody gets it in their eyes, like a goaltender nearby, or that nobody blows out a knee getting caught on some frozen gunk."
He also states, "Somehow, blowing out a knee on octopus goo has escaped us on injury reports for the last 17 years."
I hate the Wings and I think this is a disgusting act but I do not support hating hockey tradition, no matter what team the tradition comes from. Get a *&^^ing clue, Mr. Your the headmaster of the great game.
Game 1 starts at 6:00 MDT on Versus.
Game 1 Notes:
FAIL
The score should have been 5-0 but thanks to another "reputation" call on Holmstrom waiving off the first Detroit goal, the score was 4-0. Ouch.
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Do I have to actually cheer for one or the other?
Can’t I just hope that a meteor will hit the Joe, and they’ll just not actually award the Chalice this season….
"The difference between a successful person and others,
is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
This is lose-lose in my opinion. If the Beige Wings win, then we have to listen to both of the ‘real’ Detroit fans left in Motown crow for the summer, if the Pens win, I’m pretty sure the Pope will give Sid a sainthood and the talking head will fellate him all summer and through next season till at least the All-Star game.
It's All About
Watching the greatest goaltender in the world (Osgood) and the greatest team in the world (Wings) crash and burn in the finals. I personally don’t care who takes them out as long as they are taken out.
Don't Go, Joe!
I'm for delay of game
penalties against Detroit for throwing the octopus on the ice, it’s just another example of Detroit fans stupidity, it has no meaning now. When you only needed eight wins to get the cup it had a point but even then only in the first game but now it has no point, is delaying the game and the sole reason is for detroit fans to cheer an equipment manager who twirls it around. If i was a player on the opposing team it would annoy the hell out of me, and since they’re not giving delay of game penalties for it i can see a dumb wings fan throwing one at crosby in the middle of a play.
Yeah
During play, it’s a bunch of crap. Did you see the dude swinging the octopus at the start of the game? $10,000 fine on the Wings for that and there was goo flying everywhere.
Don't Go, Joe!
Nah, I won’t be able to watch this game till tonight, It’s a delayed showing in Australia and i’ll be improving my skating when it’s shown. At least they’re showing games 2 + 4 live in Australia so i’ll see one of them live.
Haha
Holmstrom’s ass gets another goal called off. He is really becoming a liability in front of the net.
Don't Go, Joe!
GAME 2
Anyone here for game 2?
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:09 PM MDT reply actions
Your name/sig see
I see your name and comment and it pleases me that he’s on the bench.
In Yo Face Hasek
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah…he should retire. The prick quotient in the NHL would drop. Although Sean Avery throws off the curve the most.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Kronwall
I have seen him leave his feet at least three times on hits in the playoffs now. I guess he won’t even get a warning unless he injures somebody.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
NHL
That’s how the NHL doles out punishment.
Didn’t Colin Campbell get a GM position (or was it just rumored). Maybe they will actually punish people for breaking the rules, not just for hurting someone now.
Crosby was slew-footed (slew-feet?) as well in this game already
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Stuart Scores
1-0 Swedish wings
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:29 PM MDT reply actions
Pitt
Do they even have a shot in this game?
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:34 PM MDT reply actions
NHL Fans?
Does the NHL have the most gay fans than any other league? I am guessing they do or else Apple wouldn’t be marketing the new Coldplay album during the finals
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:35 PM MDT reply actions
Nope
Pens have a big fat 0 SOG and the Wangs score again.
Maybe I should go back to my gardening…
Don't Go, Joe!
Quick
Yeah i could get to my video games early tonight.
Pittsburgh powerplay
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions
3 shots
on the powerplay. That brings their game total to 3.
Their series total in goals is still 0. Way to put up some fight. God even the Avs did better than this
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Avs
The way the Red Wings has been just manhandling everyone has made me less pissed about the Avs. Sure, they were the only team that got swept by Detroit, but at least they had an excuse with all the injures. Dallas was asleep for the first few games and Nashville didn’t have a chance after they exposed Detroit’s one weakness (Hasek) and corrected it.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Re:Avs
Yeah I feel better about it. Until I remember it was the Wings that dismantled them.
I do feel better about the Avs because of the Western Conference though. If they were in the East I think they may be the #1 seed.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Sting
The sting of being swept by the Wings will last until October at least and maybe until we actually win a game against them. Fuckers. Red Wings SUCK!
Don't Go, Joe!
To be fair, I have seen the Coldplay (we wish we were U2) commercial on several channels.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Fair
I just hate Coldplay, so i make fun of them every opportunity
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Speaking of kinda girly things
If you walked into a party and saw a guy drinking a Mike’s hard lemonade, admit it you don’t think “Grease-Monkey” “Hockey-Player” or “Cowboy”
You think “Software Engineer”, “Fashion Designer” or “Trust-fund baby”
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions
actually
We used to call it “Cheerleader Beer.” There slogan might as well be, “we get young, naive, girls pregnant.”
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Nice
I like it. I’d like to see that as their ad campaign
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Love Guru
See i wasn’t all that excited by the movie. But putting Steven Colbert as a hockey announcer is comedy gold waiting to happen. I’m in
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:54 PM MDT reply actions
Intermission
Time to play ball with the dogs, be back for period 2
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 6:56 PM MDT reply actions
Game Stats - Period 1
SOG – D:12 p:6
PP – D:2 P:2
Bet the Pens are wishing they could have converted on at least one PP and their PP is the best between the two teams.
Don't Go, Joe!
Pitt PP
It’s the only place i see pittsburgh with any advantage, unfortunately
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Detroit roster
Most of their top players are on contract next year too. The 2009-2010 season though.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
I meant to put the link up. Still getting used to some of the new features.
www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=DET
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Sick
All they are really scheduled to lose is Stuart and Hasek.
Damn that makes me angry
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Pitt
And Crosby and Malkin are due nice big contracts.
Honestly I think if they don’t come back here, they won’t win a cup in the near future. (I actually plan on writing all about it tomorrow)
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope
This doesn’t turn into the Peyton Manning thing until he won a championship. Every national article will be about a hall of fame player that can’t win a cup.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Except
Manning’s stuff coincided with the rise of the ESPN hype era, where they hyped every possible story into the dirt, especially NFL, College Football and NBA (and Yankees-Sox).
Hockey won’t be getting that coverage
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions
The little hockey coverage they do might. Their articles already seem to go in a Crosby – Detroit – Crosby – NHL goons – Crosby – fighting – Crosby – Frei’s Avs article – Crosby type of sequence
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Don't forget
The ” Ovechkin’s great, but not as great as Crosby”, the ” How is Malkin playing so well with Crosby hurt” and “Gretzky sees a lot of young stars in the game… like Crosby”
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions
All That
and not a damn mention of Statz who is in the top three, if I remember right, between Ovechkin and Crosby.
Don't Go, Joe!
hehe, oh yeah
and “Crosby for President”, “If we all listened to Crosby there would be peace in the Middle East.”
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Forever
They can’t be this good forever. They could totally tank next season as Cup champs tend to do.
Don't Go, Joe!
True. Plus they were lucky with injures this year. Remember how poorly they played when Lidstrom was out? Dallas and San Jose nearly caught them in the standings,
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Yeah
and they looked a bit flat without the Hinny against Dallas; at least for one game.
Don't Go, Joe!
Agreed
They may not win the cup next season, but they are going to contend for the next 3-4 season for sure.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
No
No argument here
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by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:27 PM MDT reply actions
Whoops
This was supposed to say “No argument there” and be a response to Taco’s last comment
"A witty saying proves nothing."
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by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Anyone else
See that photo of Betteman and Paul Kelly and immediately start humming the theme to “Pinky and the Brain”
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:36 PM MDT reply actions
HaHa
Didn’t see it but were their balloons coming out of their mouths saying “narf”? That would be hilarious.
Don't Go, Joe!
Challenge accepted
I see your challenge and consider it my goal for the evening to photoshop something like that and post to my blog tonight/tomorrow morning.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions
2nd INT
2-0- Wings and the game has that “Boring” feel to it
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:46 PM MDT reply actions
Both INT’s, Versus has interviewed a Detroit player. Is there some bias there? Or are the Pens not willing to talk?
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
In VS defense
What are they going to say? We suck?
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
And on cue
There’s a pens interview.. and the first question is basically “why are you guys sucking so bad”
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:54 PM MDT reply actions
If you have that power
You should have VS change the Wings Unis and put a big “A” on the front. And call them the avalanche.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay Versus.
You heard the man. Do it! But I need one thing first. Hasek must be demoted to water(Gatorade)boy.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Demoted
Maybe they could demote him to “fan” or better “popcorn vendor”
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Yikes
That could have been one wide-open-net, brain fart, just give the Wings the Cup now, mistake.
Lucky break on the Pens on the puck through the crease.
Don't Go, Joe!
Wings
In all honesty, this is the best Wings team I have seen. Better than any of the Yzerman-led ones.
God i hate them
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Did they say that right?
A person from Newfoundland has never won the cup?
Just so i understand Newfoundland is the Canadian North Dakota?
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:12 PM MDT reply actions
Maybe
Canadian Wyoming. The only state with under 50,000 in population if I remember right. Even Alaska has more people.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Oops
What is this? 1850?
Wyoming has 522,830. Just for record, Washington DC has a higher population at 588,292.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Well
If you drive through WY on South Dakota from Denver, it sure seems like there is only 50,000 people there.
Don't Go, Joe!
DIVE
Fuck Osgood you could at least not dive like Hasek. God damned wings.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:20 PM MDT reply actions
Man
This game is tanked. This was supposed to be some great match up? The no one has played this bad against the Wangs yet. Two shut outs in a row? With Osdive in net? Yeesh.
Don't Go, Joe!
Maybe
Osgood?
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Goal
Nice goal by Filpulla, and spectacularly ridiculous dive by Osgood. That was Hasek-esque
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Franzen can't take a punch
Roberts had his glove on too. Then again, I have never had to recover from a concussion but still.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
And now
Franzen starts shit after the whistle? Hmmm, not something you would do after a concussion. Unless of course, the concussion has left him with the intelligence of a 10 year old.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
No
That was wearing that wheel
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
somewhat unrelated Stastny vs. Malkin note
Malkin has looked awful the last two series. Stastny started out slow but I think was playing really well later on. By the end of the series with the wings, it seemed only Sakic, Stastny, and the Guite-lappy-pick a Cody line were the only ones still playing reasonably well. Malkin looks lost against the wings.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Yeah
But no need to rehash the injuries ect. from the series. Still bitter. Statz will do better next year.
Don't Go, Joe!
Right now
Malkin gets a slight edge, however Stastny was still robbed in ROY voting because Malkin plays in the East, and with Sid.
LEt’s see how Stastny does when healthy next season
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 8:41 PM MDT reply actions
Agreed
In fact, I hate the whole instigator rule and general “ban” on fighting in hockey. It’s a damn scrappy sport. Let ‘em fight for gawd sake. They are grown men not babies.
Don't Go, Joe!
Thanks
for joining the thread tonight. I had a ball. See yous for game three.
Hockey gods save the Pens soul…
Don't Go, Joe!
Not sure yet if I’ll be around for game 3, but we may want to open a second fan post if a lot of comments keep coming in. This one is over 100.
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
Maybe
I thought about that. Let’s see how the new platform holds up. If things start to get wonky, I’ll post another thread.
Don't Go, Joe!
Sorry
I jumped out early, internet went down…See you guys for game 3
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 9:02 PM MDT reply actions
I just realized something
I know most of you are depressed but here is a little tid-bit to cheer you up.
Since this is McGeough’s last season before he retires and since he’s not on the Stanley Cup roster, you will never, ever see him ref an Avalanche game. That alone may prompt Forsberg to play another year.
Oh, and either the East is really, really inferior or the Wings are just that good. I can’t choose. I think it’s a lot of both.
Lot of both
Definitely a lot of both. After watching the Pens in the finals i’m beginning to think there isn’t an East team that would have finished above 7th in the west this season
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on May 26, 2008 9:05 PM MDT reply actions
Divers?
At least this series is proving that Osgood is a diver: Notice how that’s Petr Sykora, who wouldn’t be able to knock someone down if he tried to.
And that guy from A2Y calls the Avs divers? lmao!
by Mike the Avs Fan on May 27, 2008 1:24 AM MDT reply actions
Net Nanny
has pretty much told you guys to go elsewhere to bash on the Wings tonight. And kept the comments to that thread closed, as well.
Although I did love his “dark cellar” and “forever” comments to Wing fans.
You misunderstand me. It’s not that I don’t encourage Wing-bashing. I do! F’ them all!! But I, at the same time, want to promote a fellow hockey blogger and a blog I really like. Nothing wrong with that.
Besides, it seems more appropriate to me for a Pens-Wings open thread conversation to be going on at a Pens blog, not an Avs blog, you know?
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
I know
I just like to twist your intentions around and stir the pot. Any chance to unite with other hockey fans against the hated winged wheel diving team is good.
by Bob in Boulder on May 28, 2008 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions
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