Super Joe Not In A Big Hurry
Early this morning (or late last night), Adrian Dater posted a quick piece about Joe Sakic's increasingly-delayed decision on whether or not to play next season. Apparently, he won't be announcing anything before free agency begins next week.
According to Dater:
Sakic "definitely will not decide by July 1," Avalanche vice president Jean Martineau said Monday night. That is the date when NHL players can become free agents. The Avalanche is maintaining public support for Sakic, but his indecision could hamstring the team and take it out as a possible player in the free-agent market. I'm also going to maintain public support for Sakic, but mostly because I'm a shameless apologist for him. Not that there's been much to apologize for, but if the guy threw a puppy off a cliff, I'd probably come up with an explanation of how it helps the Avalanche. I won't even try to deny that. Sure, it's probably a pain in the ass to have to wait for him, but I have a feeling the money situation is not going to cause a problem down the road. I have no doubt that, if he plays, Sakic will take a pay cut next season. And I have a feeling the Avs know that already. GM Francois Giguere is not going to be hamstrung* by Super Joe---at least not to a significant extent. Besides, the Avs have a lot of room to work as far as contracts go. The salary cap is rising and a few players won't be back. Sakic's delay won't be the end of the Avalanche. Take your time, Joe. But if you pull a Scott Niedermayer, I might have to stop kissing your ass all the time. Well, at least not as hard. * I always thought the use of the word "hamstring" as a verb was weird. The hamstring is a major muscle in the back of the thigh, a noun, but the verb form of the word is actually short for "cut the hamstring," an injury that quickly makes a person immobile. Oh, English.
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Hopefully he’ll give the Avs a little more of a discount due to this delay. Unfortunately, it will hurt them during the free agent period. Bummer. This is the first year he has struggled with the decision. And yet another “well maybe” gone from the Granato hiring decision.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jun 24, 2008 9:05 AM MDT
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Uggghhhh
Please don’t let this become Brett Favre, I don’t think it will, but you never know.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jun 24, 2008 9:57 AM MDT
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I'm starting to think there's some below the table talk occuring
So here’s one of the all time team players and classiest guys to take the ice…and he’s holding a team hostage? It just doesn’t seem to fit. I realize I’m not him, but he’s had a couple of months to make the call here. I’m jumping out on a limb here, but I think he knows that he wants to come back, but it’s conditional. i think it’s some combination of these things:
- He doesn’t want to do camp. He’s done camp ~20 times, and he doesn’t want to do it in his last year, he’d rather work out himself. This is a touch concerning, because his conditioning didn’t appear to be tip-top last year to start eh year, and led to a sport hernia. Maybe this is his answer, and he’ll be doing something different on his own? doesn’t seem very Joe-like though—he’s always been so workmanlike and team-oriented.
- speaking of the hernia, it’s possible it’s not healing, or there’s some other health issue and he’s not sure if he can go at 100% this year. We don’t know, but this one seems to hold the most water for me.
- He doesn’t want to play a full year. Selanne and Neids did it, why not him? Again, doesn’t seem very Joe-like though.
- He wants to play on a Stanley Cup contender, and he’s waiting and seeing on the Avs re-signings and FA moves. Could be, but you wonder what he expects the team to do. Rolston? Bruno? Hossa?
- Perhaps this is being masterminded by FG, not Sakic. Maybe the Avs want to give Hensick a taste at the 2nd line center to start the year, see how he handles the pressure. Perhaps they want to make a play at a big name FA, then bring in Joey and Peter halfway through the year and make their big run, something that only works with the cap if Joey and Peter take pay cuts (not likely) or they only play part of the year. This holds some water with me, certainly more than Joe pulling Strahans or Selannes.
I dunno. It’s probably a combination of some of these, but I remain certain that he wants to play another year at some level. There’s either some health issues or some team-related reason, I just don’t buy he’s pulling a Selanne.
by thedoctor on
Jun 24, 2008 10:56 AM MDT
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I don’t buy it, either, and I definitely don’t buy the idea that Giguere is completely in the dark. There’s no way he and Sakic haven’t communicated at length, and there’s no way that Giguere doesn’t have a ballpark figure as to how much Sakic will want to play another year. As far as free agency goes, I really don’t think Sakic (or Giguere) would let his decision hurt the team.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jun 24, 2008 11:34 AM MDT
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The nagging injury theory seems to have some weight. Sakic delays his decision to see how well he heals up except that its taking longer than usual.
Well, maybe more of a hypothesis than a theory. The only evidence behind it is the groin injury.
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by InYoFace on
Jun 24, 2008 11:47 AM MDT
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He doesn't want to do camp
I don’t think this is true at all. Sakic is a well known work out freak. I’ve seen him during the offseason working out at South Suburban Ice Arena. I’ve seen Sakic running drills prior to official training camp at Family Fun Sports. He’s that crazy neighbor you always see running or working outside on his house, he’s got that motor I suspect. I don’t think he dislikes workouts, I think he thrives on them. I thought his conditioning was fine last year. Remember he had that lingering “groin pull” to start the year that turned in to “he’s out with a groin” in December. Which of course turned in to a Hernia problem. Hernias are basically holes in the abdominal wall and they don’t generally come out of no where. Usually to tear a whole you’ve already had one there to begin with. Basically what I’m saying is that Hernias can be lingering problems that get worse rather than a sudden injury like a torn ACL.
Anyway, Sakic is dedicated to working out and always has been. The reports of him working out recently didn’t raise my hopes too much because the guy always works out. He’s not the kind of guy to take half a year off to rest if you ask me, let alone training camp. If he signs, expect him to be running drills with the vets several weeks ahead of official training camp.
by Dario on
Jun 24, 2008 1:31 PM MDT
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Good points Dario. I think Sakic has sometimes not participated in some optional training camp practices but I think a lot of verterans don’t. Instead they lift weights or do some conditioning on the stationary bikes or something. They’ll get in a few practices, get the systems down, and then just work out while the younger players stay in practices. I don’t think training camp would be a issue for Sakic.
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by InYoFace on
Jun 24, 2008 1:50 PM MDT
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And also, hernias can be fatigue and stress-induced. Long-term physical activity and heavy straining over time can create a hernia and then worsen it. Who are the most common recipients of hernias? Workout freaks.
I should know—-I’m a workout freak and I had hernia surgery last year.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jun 24, 2008 1:53 PM MDT
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I should know—-I’m freaked-out by work and I had hernia surgery last year.
Fixed that for ya…
by Mike @ MHH on
Jun 24, 2008 3:53 PM MDT
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I Think Joey and Foppa playing is a big reason FOR any big-time UFA to come to Avalanche.
If Ho$$a would get a call from Joey (think about Smyth) he should praise the gods on his bare knees.
I Also don’t think he wouldn’t want to play a full year. We’re talking about the quintessential superhero/athlete here.
If he can do anything to help his team he will.
If Sakic is not coming back, I might cry….
Boys don’t cry
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by Tommelot on
Jun 25, 2008 4:04 AM MDT
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Thanks.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jun 25, 2008 7:42 AM MDT
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My 2 Cents
I had an appealing thought about Sakic’s decision. What if he is weighing whether or not to play for 2 more years, not just one. This thought is along the lines of Sakic wanting to play in the 2010 Olympics. If he were to decide to sign for 2 more years, his retirement would be set in stone to a large degree and maybe that’s why it is taking so long. I also agree that FG knows what’s up. I can’t see Sakic not letting the team know something before the free agency period begins. Maybe I’m dreaming and all this waiting means he’s done. No one wants to hear it and no one wants to say it.
Don't Go, Joe!
by texacogirl on
Jun 24, 2008 6:04 PM MDT
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