Free Agent Day Thread
[This post will be updated throughout the day with news of signings and trades relevant to the Colorado Avalanche.]
The very first news of today is that Jose Theodore, Andrew Brunette, Jeff Finger and Kurt Sauer will all almost certainly be wearing new uniforms next season, according to Adrian Dater.
As for individual negotiations:
Not such a priority anymore, by the sound of it, is Theodore. The veteran goalie will test the open market, [Avalanche general manager Francois] Giguere said, and he gave little hope a deal with the Avs would be struck. "It just comes down to trying to reach an agreement, and we couldn't do that," Giguere said. "Anytime you try to sign someone and you don't, it's a disappointment, but we're not going to overpay." Giguere said Peter Budaj would likely be the No. 1 goalie again entering training camp. Giguere also said Brunette and Sauer would not be re-signed, and that negotiations never went anywhere with them. Giguere did make an effort to sign Finger, however, but couldn't come to terms with the defenseman. Looks like Giguere is lowballing everybody, including the two players he's already re-signed, John-Michael Liles and Adam Foote, who both could have gotten more money elsewhere. Hopefully he doesn't get a miserly reputation and hurt future free agent signings. Updates to come throughout the day. UPDATE 1 (7:44 AM MDT): Brian Rolston ( a former Avalanche player) was not satisfied with an offer from the Lightning (who had rights to negotiate with him) and will seek other suitors today. That would conceivably make him a target of the Avs. Also, how strange would it be if Rolston came back to the Avs while Andrew Brunette returned to the Wild? Cue the eerie music... UPDATE 2 (12:07 PM): Andrew Brunette heads back to the Wild, ensuring that he will exact revenge---in one form or another---on the Avalanche for spurning him. Chalk it up to the Avs always giving their divisional foes the tools with which to beat them (Tanguay, Drury, Brunette, etc.). UPDATE 3 (12:59 PM): Jose Theodore goes to Washington for an undisclosed two-year deal, meaning Cristobal Huet is apparently up for grabs. But, he's another former Hab, and the Avs have a soft spot for former Habs. Also, Kurt Sauer has moved on to Phoenix, signing a long-term, four-year deal. UPDATE 4 (1:02 PM): It's not bunk after all. The Avs have announced a contract with Swedish instigator Per Ledin. Why sign Per Ledin? Beats the hell out of me. UPDATE 5 (1:07 PM): The Avs sign goalie Andrew Raycroft to a one-year deal. Peter Budaj needs a backup now with the departure of Jose Theodore to Washington, so this signing makes sense. Unless Granato gives Raycroft the starting job... UPDATE 6 (1:29 PM): Jeff Finger signs a fat four-year deal with the Maple Leafs for an average of 3.5 million a year. Hot damn. A huge payday for a guy that broke into the league late in his 20s and had to fight to keep a regular spot in the lineup. Good work, Jeff. UPDATE 7 (2:07 PM): The Avs have signed Darcy Tucker to a two-year, 4.5 million dollar contract. Uh. That means the Avs now have the following players on their active roster: Ian Laperriere, Scott Parker, Cody McLeod, Per Ledin, Cody McCormick and Tucker. Is that absolutely necessary? Two full lines of limited-potential bad boys? Great. UPDATE 8 (6:29 PM): No Rolston for the Avs. He's going back to Jersey with old pal Bobby Holik.
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what time does the carnage start? noon EST (9am here?)
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 8:39 AM MDT
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Yep. Of course, re-signings can occur at any time.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 8:48 AM MDT
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re-sign
i have resigned to use re-sign… I hope you noticed…
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 8:54 AM MDT
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It’s about time you got on the correct spelling bandwagon.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 9:07 AM MDT
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PPPPFFFHHHHTTTT
That’s for those fancy-schmancy “journalists” with their “editors,” “credibility,” and “accountability.”
I bee a lowley blogger. Me not know or nead speling, and gramer, and big werds.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 9:17 AM MDT
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It's 12:00
do you know where your free agents are?
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 10:02 AM MDT
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Re-signs
some last minute re-signings:
Red Wings and Brad Stuart
Pens and Dupuis
Ducks and Cory Perry
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 10:18 AM MDT
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pandolfo re-signed by devils
he was a guy i thought the Avs would go after hard, I’m bummed.
by thedoctor on
Jul 1, 2008 10:30 AM MDT
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Huet
You guys are getting Huet.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 10:45 AM MDT
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Source?
You have a source Frank, I have been on TSN and haven’t seen anything
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 10:48 AM MDT
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It's a BiB exclusive
Which is still more reliable than Eklund
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 10:50 AM MDT
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just a little more reliable….
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is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
by Americanario on
Jul 1, 2008 10:51 AM MDT
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No, and unlike Eklund, I don’t pretend to know what I am talking about.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 10:52 AM MDT
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No source – it just seems to be the super-popular talk at the moment. I’m sorry, my bad. I should’ve clarified.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:12 AM MDT
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Oh and Eff Eklund.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 11:12 AM MDT
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No source? Super-popular talk? What do you think this is, a blog?
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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Well – a light source, as I mentioned in the other Huet post.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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Well Eklund would have made this an e5
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:15 AM MDT
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The Sky is Blue (e5)
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:16 AM MDT
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Former AV Radim Vrbata goes to Lightning.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/01/vrbata_lightning/
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is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
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by Americanario on
Jul 1, 2008 10:55 AM MDT
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another lightning signing huh? I better check my e-mail. I’m pretty sure they just offered me a 5 year deal.
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by InYoFace on
Jul 1, 2008 11:00 AM MDT
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$3M per year seems a little steep for Vrbata. He’s a nice little goal scorer and all, but he really isn’t much of a two-way forward.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 11:04 AM MDT
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If they are signing Huet
I hope it isn’t for too much. The guys on the Fan this morning (on their new pretty much unlistenable in Boulder FM signal) were talking about FG’s approach this year. One interesting point that someone made was that there are so few truly elite goaltenders in the league, that unless you definitely have one of them, you are better off not overpaying for one based on hope. Maybe someone has recently posted that on a blog as well? Anyhow, I’m not 100% sold on Huet being one of those elite goaltender, so I really hope they don’t overpay for him if this is true.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 10:55 AM MDT
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I just heard a bunch of people talking about it, and a buddy of mine is a producer at NHL Radio and said “they’re talking about it here too.”
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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Shock
That would really shock me.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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Same here. The coverage on NHLN has been ridiculous. They even went and quoted Eklund before, therefore disparaging any interest I had in that topic.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:14 AM MDT
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It would shock Giguere, too, since he said:
“We won’t be really active like we were last year,” Giguere said. “I don’t think there’s as much quality, top-end guys as previous years.”
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:17 AM MDT
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yeah I read that earlier today
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:18 AM MDT
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One interesting point that someone made was that there are so few truly elite goaltenders in the league, that unless you definitely have one of them, you are better off not overpaying for one based on hope. Maybe someone has recently posted that on a blog as well?
Didn’t FG say this? Maybe it was in Dater’s blog. I read this in the last few days somewhere (i.e. it’s not an original thought)
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:00 AM MDT
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It could have been that they were talking about what FG had said.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 11:02 AM MDT
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Evidently Dater said it on the radio yesterday. From his blog:
But one thing I said on the radio this morning: I like the Ken Holland philosophy on goaltending. Unless you know you’ve got one of the top 5 in the league, you shouldn’t overpay for a goalie (which someone will no doubt do with Theodore) and as long as you have somebody halfway decent, you can get by as long as you have a tight, puck-control defense in front of him.
and maybe the guys this morning were just parroting it.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 11:10 AM MDT
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That explains how Detroit won a cup with Osgood.
by Savage33 on
Jul 2, 2008 1:45 AM MDT
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Leafs provide comic relief
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:11 AM MDT
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Don't get
I don’t get this at all. Toskala is a fine goalie. Toronto seems to be in permanent denial that their defense is porous, that’s why their goalies stink.
Kaberle and Kubina and nobodies (McCabe is a nobody in his own zone). That defense would make Marty Brodeur look terrible.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:28 AM MDT
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TSN
Is getting their asses handed to them by sportsnet.ca. TSN hasn’t even reported the Vrbata signing yet
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:12 AM MDT
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Yeah they have. It’s on their tracker.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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Finally up
It’s finally up.. they don’t have the CuJo signing yet though.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:14 AM MDT
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That tracker sucks.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:15 AM MDT
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I’ve had it up all morning…it should refresh like the comment threads on MHH.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:15 AM MDT
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Broken
Their tracker has to be broken
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:51 AM MDT
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TSN
They do have Blake Wheeler (who?) to Boston though
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:17 AM MDT
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strikes again. I don’t know why i have problems with this, but I do.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:17 AM MDT
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Yeah Sportsnet really blew that one. That’s the biggest signing of the day!
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:18 AM MDT
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The oilers are making space for Hossa it seems. It looks like either Oilers or Bruins.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:17 AM MDT
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My thoughts
All the Oil’s moves seem to be aimed at signing Hossa.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:18 AM MDT
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I read somewhere that the Bruins weren’t interested because of his high price…no source though. I can’t remember where I am most of the time.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:19 AM MDT
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or at stealing more RFA’s
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by InYoFace on
Jul 1, 2008 11:24 AM MDT
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The Pens, according to http://www.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com/, is that they offered Hossa 7-year $52 mil and he turned it down.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:19 AM MDT
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An average of just over $7 million a year, and a chance to play with Sidney Crosby (and maybe Malkin, too) for the rest of his career? Yeah, I would have turned that down, too…uh…no I wouldn’t. What a moron.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:22 AM MDT
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Of course.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:26 AM MDT
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The WWL?
ESPN has their own tracker, and they just posted news of the Vrbata signing, complete with “Scott Burnside’s instant analysis” a full 30 minutes after TSN and Sportsnet. Leading the world as always.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:27 AM MDT
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I can’t follow that crap at all.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:29 AM MDT
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ESPN has a tracker?
And you are wasting your bandwidth on it?
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is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
by Americanario on
Jul 1, 2008 11:30 AM MDT
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That’s the problem you see – so many people are on it, all of the signings are delayed a half hour.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:30 AM MDT
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To be fair
people over at tWWL probably just heard about free agency day this morning. That’s pretty good response time.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:30 AM MDT
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Also
TSN still has nothing on CuJo.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:30 AM MDT
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You convinced me. I killed my TSN tracker.
by Rather Dashing on
Jul 1, 2008 11:32 AM MDT
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They’re union and it’s lunch time. Piss off.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:33 AM MDT
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in the past, I’ve found Sportsnet to be faster than TSN.
ESPN isn’t even an option, even if it wasn’t blocked
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 11:39 AM MDT
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Big News!
The ‘Nucks just re-signed Kyle Wellwood! OMG WTF
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:37 AM MDT
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Wellwood
Isn’t this the guy they are banking on replacing Morrison?
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:42 AM MDT
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he’s very similar in contributions. I’d say that’s accurate.
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:44 AM MDT
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Canucks re-sign Wellwood
1 year, 1 mil. I haven’t even heard of him.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:37 AM MDT
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Last year
Didn’t Briere, Drury, and Gomez all sign pretty quickly on July 1st? Its seems Hossa is not going the quick signing route.
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by InYoFace on
Jul 1, 2008 11:44 AM MDT
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which means...
Hossa is contemplating the Pitt offer. Do you take a deal elsewhere or do you stay in Pitt with Crosby and Malkin and become a HoFer?
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by FrankD on
Jul 1, 2008 11:45 AM MDT
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He’s probably contemplating lots of offers.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 11:45 AM MDT
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More likely
He’s getting Lowe to bid against himself
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:46 AM MDT
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Yes I know – but I can pretend it’s just the Pitt one, can’t I?
Honestly, I don’t expect him to stay.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:46 AM MDT
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hey, the longer he takes is probably good news for you.
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by InYoFace on
Jul 1, 2008 11:47 AM MDT
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Good point. But they are allegedly extending Malkin to 5-year $8.7 mil a year. Then Crosby is at $8.7 mil a year. If they work out a deal with Hossa for the same amount, keep Whitney (A $4 mil/year drain on the team’s economy), sign Orpik and try to work out something with Fleury, almost 1/3 to 1/2 of the team’s salary will be spent just to keep them.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:52 AM MDT
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Is it me, or does this smell like the Bolts?
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 12:36 PM MDT
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It’s not just you. BTW, what does a lightning bolt smell like? Bored minds want to know…
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:52 PM MDT
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That’s fine with me. I’d rather see him there than come over to Edmonton. Keep him in the east!
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Jul 1, 2008 11:46 AM MDT
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Wild trade for Zidlicky
Don’t think the Avs can keep up with that one...
This is lame.. Where’s Garth snow and a 50-year 25M/year contract, or Kevin Lowe trading Hextall arena for one with a bench on the correct side of the ice.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:45 AM MDT
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I heard Burke has thrown Lowe on a cargo plain for India, Indiana Jones Temple of Doom style. Thats why we haven’t heard from him.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:54 AM MDT
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plane, not plain. I hate it when I screw up jokes.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:54 AM MDT
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Brunette
just heard Bruno to Minnesota
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 11:46 AM MDT
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and that the Wild have traded for Marek Zidlicky
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
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Wow big pick up. Zidlicky was awesome last yr.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:47 AM MDT
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a non-hockey board that I hang out on
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 11:56 AM MDT
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Star Tribune has the headline “Wild sign Brunette to multi-year deal” but the link is dead
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 11:58 AM MDT
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Gotcha. It’s also up on a Wild blog.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:58 AM MDT
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His BFF
Dater heard it, obviously had to call and tell DD first
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 11:58 AM MDT
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actually, I am Adrian Dater
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 11:59 AM MDT
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TSN has Bruno going to the Wild…
"The difference between a successful person and others,
is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
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Jul 1, 2008 12:07 PM MDT
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A fan on my site posted an unsourced rumor that Rolston was offered 2-year $9 mil from Pitt.
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Jul 1, 2008 11:56 AM MDT
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Does Rolston really fit with the Pens style of play?
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:01 PM MDT
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No. He should come here instead.
by Rather Dashing on
Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM MDT
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TSN
now has Wellwood up. Still no Cujo
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 12:00 PM MDT
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Everyone
Has obviously noticed and is now clogging up sportsnet’s site.. it got really slow
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM MDT
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I love this signing. From a purely “Watch Vancouver miss the playoffs again” point of view…
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Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM MDT
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eh, it didn’t cost them much. But if they really think he’s going to solve their problems then yes, they’ll miss the playoffs again.
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Jul 1, 2008 12:04 PM MDT
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Oh yeah
he’ll replace Morrison.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:07 PM MDT
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Any signing that contributes to that is a good signing.
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:04 PM MDT
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Pens
re-sign Eaton via TSN
Sportsnet is on the fritz now
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:13 PM MDT
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ugh That guy tore his ACL this year, F’d up the same knee the year before and broke his wrist the year before that…
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Jul 1, 2008 12:15 PM MDT
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He’s our version. I hope they sign his health this time around.
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by JDunman on
Jul 1, 2008 12:32 PM MDT
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Time for a couple more servers.
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by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:15 PM MDT
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Hooters-type servers or nerdy computer servers?
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:16 PM MDT
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Damn
TSN tracker just went down too.
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Canadian tech. What do you expect?
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Jul 1, 2008 12:16 PM MDT
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You’re right. That invalidates the entire joke…
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Jul 1, 2008 12:17 PM MDT
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They hit the master switch – it’s back up
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:17 PM MDT
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Jim from accounting tripped over the power cord…
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Jul 1, 2008 12:18 PM MDT
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Pens also
Make an offer to Jagr
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:17 PM MDT
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Hey, the wayback machine worked for the Avs right? Right?
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Jul 1, 2008 12:18 PM MDT
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At least I can dust off the old jersey!
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:23 PM MDT
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i knew they would
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:22 PM MDT
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Wow, over 100 posts and the Avs haven’t done a damn thing today except for losing Bruno. Pretty impressive. Denver is hockeytown.
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Jul 1, 2008 12:16 PM MDT
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Comment of the year.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:19 PM MDT
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this was what we expected, though.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 12:21 PM MDT
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But when do we get what we expect with this club?
"The difference between a successful person and others,
is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
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Jul 1, 2008 12:22 PM MDT
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We did get Smyth and Hannan last year. I’d like to think that’s all because FG has MHH as his start-page
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 12:28 PM MDT
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Unfortunately, at least so far, we overpaid for both Hannan and Smyth last year in retrospect. I wonder if that fact is making FG gun shy this year?
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Jul 1, 2008 12:31 PM MDT
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not gunshy. just a poor FA crop, some uncertainty over Sakic, and not a ton of cap room.
I do think he’ll land a couple of decent players still
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 12:33 PM MDT
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To Dater’s girlfriend:
I think we call those ‘value picks’, right?
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Jul 1, 2008 12:36 PM MDT
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yeah. but I have a lot of confidence in FG. The only move I really am not fond of is the Boychuk trade. Generally, I think he’s made a lot of smart moves since taking over and I expect him to do the same this week
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 12:43 PM MDT
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The Granato hiring? Without even interviewing other candidates?
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 12:49 PM MDT
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ah, yes, I had blocked that one out of my mind. that’s a big one to gloss over.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 12:53 PM MDT
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Oh, and congrats on dating Dater. I don’t think I’ve chimed in on that yet. He is pretty tall, isn’t he?
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 12:50 PM MDT
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lol.
and i don’t even like redheads!
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Jul 1, 2008 12:53 PM MDT
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Does the carpet match the curtains?
Did I go too far? I think…maybe?
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:54 PM MDT
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Perhaps a bit…but we don’t judge.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
by JDunman on
Jul 1, 2008 12:56 PM MDT
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TSN speed
seems to be much better. I guess lunch break is over in Canada, eh?
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Jul 1, 2008 12:20 PM MDT
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Good use of eh. You are a quick learner.
by Bob in Boulder on
Jul 1, 2008 12:22 PM MDT
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Kolzig with Tampa? Any word?
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:52 PM MDT
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Hope they don’t think he can solve their problems
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:52 PM MDT
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Anyone see this?
The Nucks offered Sundin a contract for 10 mil a year. I think they have lost their minds =).
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
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Jul 1, 2008 12:53 PM MDT
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Link
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242175&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main
InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace
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Jul 1, 2008 12:54 PM MDT
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Sauer to PHX 4 years.
I wish he stayed here.
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PHX home of Avalanche cast-offs since 2001.
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Jul 1, 2008 12:55 PM MDT
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Good move
That’s an excellent move for the Yotes… source?
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:55 PM MDT
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OUCH
Apparently his deal is 4 years at only 1.75 million per year. I can’t believe we didn’t sign him for that much. Maybe they are trying to get Finger for a little cheaper still?
Mir ist egal.
by Selanne on
Jul 1, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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Maybe he just wanted to go somewhere where he’d actually get to play.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:14 PM MDT
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I bet the Av’s problem with a contract like that was the length.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:14 PM MDT
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Why?? The 4 year thing is GREAT. He’s quite consistent
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Jul 1, 2008 1:15 PM MDT
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But
They’ve got major years tied up in Hannan and Liles with Cumiskey and Leopold coming up next year and Clark, Foote, and Salei the year after. I can see hesitency to hitch their wagon to Sauer when he’s only played one full season out of six.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:20 PM MDT
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If anything, he’d be good traid bait.
They get scratch for him now
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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That’s a pity for FG… Not a strong move
But he did get Liles and Foote for pocket change, even though you all seem to think they’re only half a million under market value
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Jul 1, 2008 1:14 PM MDT
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FG was clear about this
it had nothing to do with money, and everything to do with playing time and opportunity. Sauer was behind 6 players here, he’s behind maybe 3 there.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:18 PM MDT
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Avs officially sign Per Ledin
Just made a fanpost about it, but Per Ledin is now officially under contract.
Mir ist egal.
by Selanne on
Jul 1, 2008 12:55 PM MDT
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So the only action for us so far today is that we signed a guy that we’ve known about for two weeks?
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:56 PM MDT
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I TOTALLY called that they were waiting for July 1st
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Jul 1, 2008 1:00 PM MDT
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Ledin
Anyone else completely unimpressed with this move? It seems to have no purpose. We have 2 agitators (Lappy, McLeod) and plenty of grinders/4th liners
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:01 PM MDT
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dude, he’s made of GOLD. there’s nothing not to like about it
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 1:04 PM MDT
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And he and Guite can challenge the national quota for handlebar mustaches! Win-Win!!
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Jul 1, 2008 1:05 PM MDT
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Washington signs Theo
Per TSN – no terms yet.
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Jul 1, 2008 12:55 PM MDT
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Wow
I really thought they’d get Huet
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:57 PM MDT
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3 or 4 headed to Washington
Sauer source was TSN
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Jul 1, 2008 12:56 PM MDT
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Does this open it up for Huet, as I initially predicted?
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:57 PM MDT
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Surprised
I am surprised he’s a cap, not surprised he left though. Anything’s possible but it would still shock me
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:57 PM MDT
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I’m surprised he signed a TWO YEAR CONTRACT!! WTF?!!?? Surely he wanted more than that when in negotiations with FG.
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:58 PM MDT
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Now he can get a red, white and blue pimp cane.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
by JDunman on
Jul 1, 2008 12:58 PM MDT
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Ohhh, man, maybe this gives us a shot at Huet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 12:57 PM MDT
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If it does – you all owe me a high five, and a few beers to my NHL buddy.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 12:58 PM MDT
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deal
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 12:59 PM MDT
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holy shit
4.5 a year? they’re CRAZY.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:05 PM MDT
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ha.
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:06 PM MDT
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Actually
I thought this sounded right
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:07 PM MDT
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it’s less than I thought he’d get
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Jul 1, 2008 1:10 PM MDT
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Me too
I really thought he was going to get $6M/year again
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:11 PM MDT
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Theo
Sucky Goaltender and Sell-out.
No sense of moral to a team that grosly overpaid him for 2 years
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:05 PM MDT
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Well, now Budaj has his backup.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 1:07 PM MDT
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Don't mind
I know i put him in the “DO NOT WANT” category. But he was promising for Boston, and Toronto f’ed him. But as i pointed out earlier Toronto has NO d.
Hacket is a fantastic goalie coach too, so if anyone can rehab him.. i think it’s Hackett
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:08 PM MDT
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we signed raycroft.
I have no idea why.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:07 PM MDT
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Well
Budaj’s job is safe as a #1 even if he plays terribly
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:07 PM MDT
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Probably True, although Raycroft didn’t play that poorly behind the Leaf’s D two years ago. Nobody could have played well behind them.
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 1:08 PM MDT
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thank you, reply box. This is about the raycroft signing
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:07 PM MDT
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depending on the terms, i think it works too
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Jul 1, 2008 1:09 PM MDT
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Last year's stats
19g 964min 2w 9l 3.92 gaa .876 sv%
Not impressive.
Sorry for that fluke post. I pressed enter while having my mouse clicked wrongly
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Jul 1, 2008 1:10 PM MDT
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But
behind Toronto’s Defense. That makes anyone look bad.
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:10 PM MDT
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Yeah, In my wild mind I forgot for a second Toronto has a defense worse than the Dutch National football team
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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Sad Panda
That makes me a sad panda..
/dutch football fan
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:13 PM MDT
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More stats
Bruins defense, also bad??
2005-2006 Bruins 30 1,618 8 19 – 2 100 824 0 3.71 .879
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:13 PM MDT
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Injury probs that year. Pull his numbers from his first season in Toronto.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:14 PM MDT
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WOW Mike, WIKI-god
They look inflated to me, but I like to trust your word on it.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:16 PM MDT
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Sorry, I meant the pre-lockout Bruins year looks inflated.
First Toronto year looks pretty bad imo:
2003-2004 Bruins 57 3,420 29 18 9 – 117 1,586 3 2.05 .926
2005-2006 Bruins 30 1,618 8 19 – 2 100 824 0 3.71 .879
2006-2007 Maple Leafs 72 4,108 37 25 – 9 205 1,931 2 2.99 .894
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:18 PM MDT
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Backup
That’s why he’s now a backup
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM MDT
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Yeah, I don’t see the problem.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM MDT
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GAA is not great, S% isn’t horrible, but he still went 37-25-9 behind that horrible team the first year back from knee surgery. Then the leafs threw him under the bus with the Toskala pickup.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:22 PM MDT
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There was a story about the World of Raycroft. It’s a game where the more you play the more levels you go down. You are immune to arrows because they whiz right past your head and between your legs.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM MDT
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That’s just too funny.
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:21 PM MDT
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Loser Domi did a thing on it. You should check it out.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM MDT
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LOL…
Do pucks count as arrows??? Is his weakness all projectile weapons.
"The difference between a successful person and others,
is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
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Jul 1, 2008 1:44 PM MDT
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Details
1-year $800k
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM MDT
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That’s a value pickup as Dater’s girlfriend calls it…
by Mike @ MHH on
Jul 1, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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$800k
for $800 k i’ll be Dater’s value pickup
Wait! What?
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:24 PM MDT
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so, we’ve got 2 goalies making 800k.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on
Jul 1, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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Maybe they can afford a new uniform design now?
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Jul 1, 2008 1:25 PM MDT
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ZING
I think it’s a good thing to see us go from having 2 goalies making 7M to 2 goalies making 2M.
As long as Budaj doesn’t die in play-offs, I like our chances
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Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM MDT
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for one year.
seems pretty clear we’re after miller next year.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM MDT
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crossing your fingers too…
"The difference between a successful person and others,
is not a lack of strength,not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."
-Vince Lombardi-
by Americanario on
Jul 1, 2008 1:45 PM MDT
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Ouch, I didn’t notice that typo.
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:55 PM MDT
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Could have had
Conklin for $750,000 on a one year contract, Damn Wings got him though.
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Jul 2, 2008 1:56 AM MDT
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Sad - KONO
I was sifting through some Dater stuff (is it just me or has he become a much better writer since his book was published?), and he mentioned that Steve Konowalchuck has left the Avs organisation to pursue a non-NHL career.
Just makes me kind of sad, i liked him so much.
Mir ist egal.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:09 PM MDT
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If this is true, it’s front page material.
He had so much to bring to the game
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Jul 1, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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PHX adds Fedoruk
Detroit gets Conklin to backup Osgood, and MTL re-signs Kostitsyn
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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You think Osgood will get Conk-blocked this year?
It had to be said…
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Jul 1, 2008 1:15 PM MDT
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TSN
After taking some early lumps, they are now kicking Sportsnet’s ass
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:13 PM MDT
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Canadian tech. What do you expect, eh?
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Jul 1, 2008 1:15 PM MDT
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You really have learned!
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
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Jul 1, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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Dreaming
Anyone else here dreaming of Osgood getting hurt and Detroit having to rely on conkblock for an extended period of time. I don’t wish an injury on anyone… but that would warm the cockles of my heart
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It would suck for Conk to play his heart out and still lose the job as soon as the #1 comes off injury…again.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
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Jul 1, 2008 1:24 PM MDT
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yeah – talk about defeat. They could just be setting up a future job for him.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
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Wasn’t the main reason they signed him to provide Howard with some competition, plus it’s a 1 year contract so they’ll be after Miller next year as well. Miller better side with the Liles and the Avs than with his home town team or I’ll be forced to hate him and no-one wants that to happen.
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Hossa
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fuck Ho$$a. Someone making any comments about unions during lunch?
I hope the Sheriff kicks his ass next time we play the Wheel, just to revenge the Penguins.
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And to see a red wing player get beat up by Parker
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:29 PM MDT
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Clever
You guys are clever, or missed this ;)
"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:29 PM MDT
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That’s my auto response to all Wings-related news.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:31 PM MDT
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There’s not a more-fitting response.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
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Jul 1, 2008 1:44 PM MDT
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Dang. He made a nice payday. 3.5 mil a year for four years.
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Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM MDT
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Damn
I love Finger… but that’s overpaying (especially considering what Sauer got)
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- Voltaire (1694-1778)
by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:28 PM MDT
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I totally called Finger making more than Sauer
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Jul 1, 2008 1:31 PM MDT
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Finger
Wow he did well in Toronto. I would have thought Sauer would have done better.
by rbj on
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Bye bye Finger
Dang, he made a nice payday with t
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3.5 million? fucking A. and you guys thought Clark was overpaid?
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Jul 1, 2008 1:32 PM MDT
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Now
I think they are both overpaid
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by Jibblescribbits on
Jul 1, 2008 1:34 PM MDT
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Clark definitely has his value to the team. Not in any way Liles or Foote have, but he has his flair
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by Tommelot on
Jul 1, 2008 1:36 PM MDT
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well, for 3.5 per, I’d sign with toronto- no wonder we couldn’t keep him
by TheRed on
Jul 1, 2008 1:33 PM MDT
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Cujo only making 7K???
I’d rather have him than Raycroft….
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Jul 1, 2008 1:32 PM MDT
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Tomm, it’s okay. Raycroft isn’t that bad of a goalie and he’s not 300 years old like Joseph. Raycroft is a backup only and will do just fine in that role.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
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Jul 1, 2008 1:34 PM MDT
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You’re probably right. I forgot 2 things just now:
1. I haven’t actually ever seen Raycroft play
2. CuJo was a wing
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Jul 1, 2008 1:39 PM MDT
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Oh and i don’t think clark is overpaid, i might be the only one, but I think hes pretty good at carrying the puck up the ice. Boy’s got some moves, and he’s confident with them. I don’t see him turn it over too much on those moves either.
by TheRed on
Jul 1, 2008 1:35 PM MDT
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Gets in line
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26 Card Jet
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