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The Big Picture

With one little announcement, we now have 19 good reasons to have some optimism about the upcoming season. We also have a much better picture of how this team will look in the fall. We no longer have to include the "if Super Joe returns" qualifier to all of our discussions. There's still the foot-shaped shadow of Peter Forsberg looming in the background, but I think most of us look to him as gravy - albeit very tasty gravy - instead of meat and potatoes.

The Avalanche have 28 guys listed on their roster, with an additional 17 players under contract. It's possible that someone from the latter group could make the team, but odds are that the 23-man roster to start the season will mostly come from the first group. Let's take a look at some of the upcoming battles for a spot on that roster.

Two things to consider when looking at who might and might not make the team (besides their talent level and future potential): waiver eligibility and two-way contracts. A player eligible for waivers would need to clear waivers before being sent down to (or called up from) Lake Erie. This is how we obtained George Parros a couple of seasons back and why Jeff Jillson wasn't immediately available to play when recalled at one point this year (he hadn't cleared yet). As we'll see in a bit, there are some fringe players who would need to be waived to be sent down. A two-way contract is a contract that pays a player a certain amount in the NHL and a much lesser amount in the AHL. As you can see by the link above, most of the younger players (including Paul Stastny) are on two-way contracts (the superscript 2 next to their names is the indicator). Two-way contracts don't affect waiver eligibility or the salary cap - guys in the minors don't count against the cap regardless of the contract type. It really just effects the team's bottom-line and I don't believe this is much of a factor when figuring out who does and doesn't make the roster.

 

Goalies

Barring injury, it's probable that Peter Budaj and Andrew Raycroft will be the two goalies out of camp. Budaj has to be a lock. Raycroft might be on a bit shakier ground given his recent history, but he would have to clear waivers if he didn't make the team. I think he would have to really look bad for the team to give up on him this soon. Tyler Weiman and Jason Bacashihua will be around to pressure Raycroft a bit for that backup spot, but, unlike Razor, both can be moved to and from the AHL without clearing waivers.

In (2): Budaj and Raycroft

Out: Weiman, Bacashihua

Salary Cap Hit: $1,500,000

 

Defensemen

This one's pretty easy as well. Scott Hannan, Brett Clark, Adam Foote, John-Michael Liles, Ruslan Salei and Jordan Leopold should be your clear top 6. I haven't seen any updates on Clark's status, but I believe he was expected to be fully recovered from his shoulder injury by now. The Avalanche will likely carry 7 - and perhaps 8 - defensemen. Newly signed Daniel Tjarnqvist and speed demon Kyle Cumiskey are two likely candidates for the spot(s). Wes O'Neill [er, Nigel Williams - thanks, Jori] has generated some good buzz, so he could be in the mix as well. I don't know enough about the other youngsters - Darcy Campbell, Michael Vernace, etc - to guage their relatively slim chances at this point. Tjarnqvist is waiver eligible, giving him a slight advantage, but I don't think the Avs will be afraid to waive him if he gets outplayed. Remember that Foote has never played a full 82 games and has averaged just under 63 games a season in his career, so having an extra player or two the Avs feel they can count on is very important.

In (6): Foote, Clark, Liles, Hannan, Salei, Leopold

Salary Cap Hit: $19,725,000

In the Mix for 2 spots: Cumiskey, Tjarnqvist, Williams

Estimated Additional Cap Hit: $1,300,000

 

Forwards

The Avs will either carry 13 forwards and 8 defensemen or 14 forwards and 7 defensemen. Either way, there's a few guys who will be on the roster no matter what: Joe Sakic, Ryan Smyth, Paul Stastny, Milan Hejduk, Darcy Tucker, Wojtek Wolski, Marek Svatos, Tyler Arnason (yes) and Ian Laperriere. That's 9 spots (I haven't heard anything about Svatos' recovery, so I'm assuming he'll be ready to start the season). The remaining 4 or 5 spots will be chased by a rather large list of players:

  • TJ Hensick
  • David Jones
  • Cody McCormick
  • Cody McLeod
  • Chris Stewart
  • Per Ledin
  • Brian Willsie
  • Ben Guite
  • Scott Parker

I don't really think Stewart is a viable candidate yet, but he's listed on the roster right now, so he's included. I'm not even going to try to sort through the guys like Codey Burki and TJ Galardi; let's just say that there's some compelling players not on the above list who might also have an outside chance of making the team. I personally feel that Guite should be a lock, but with enough players vying for a spot, I'm including him here. Of the above list, Parker, Guite and Willsie are the three eligible for waivers. I'm very curious to see how this one will play out. If I was picking today, I'd guess Guite, Jones, Willsie and McLeod, but I think there will be some great battles next month.

In (9): Sakic, Stastny, Smyth, Hejduk, Wolski, Tucker, Svatos, Laperriere, Arnason

Cap Hit: $26,925,000

In the mix for 4 spots: Hensick, Jones, Willsie, Guite, Ledin, Parker, Stewart, McCormick, McLeod

Estimated Additional Cap Hit: $2,147,500

Estimated Total Cap Figure: $51,597,500

 

It looks like the most exciting camp jostling in September will be among the forwards. Unless something dramatic happens, the Avs seem to be on course to open the season with a cap hit of about $51.5 million. We know that GM Francois Giguere likes to have cap room to maneuver, and he's got about $5 million to play with here. More than enough for another dramatic midseason signing or to trade for a goalie.

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$5 million can pay for a lot of ankle reconstructions. I’m just saying.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 9:52 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well Done Sir

Though I think you mean Nigel Williams and not Wes O’Neill.

by Angélique C. Murray on Aug 28, 2008 11:43 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep, I’m always getting them confused

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 28, 2008 11:48 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

random comment

Wes O’Neill is the worst skater i’ve ever seen in person.

by thedoctor on Aug 28, 2008 12:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You haven’t seen me ice skate.

But I know what you meant.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 2:22 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should have said professional, yeah.

he’s worse than the worst clods in the CHL games i attend, no joke.

by thedoctor on Aug 28, 2008 3:06 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but how fast can he run the 40-yard dash?

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 3:52 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and, um, is he any good at beer pong?

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 28, 2008 3:54 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love to see Tyler “like the wind” Arnason offended by fans.

Nothing personal, Tyler, but I just don’t like you on OUR team

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Aug 29, 2008 2:08 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

potential line combos

best guess at lines:

Smyth – Stastny – Hejduk
Wolski – Sakic – Svatos
Tucker – Arny – Jones
McLeod – Guite – Lappy
Ledin – Parker

I’d love it if they moved Arnason and let Hensick or Wolski center that 3rd, but I doubt it will happen. It’s sad that Hensick probably won’t make the roster.

by thedoctor on Aug 28, 2008 12:50 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tough guy with Sakic

I say one of the tough guys (either Tucker or Lappy) plays with Sakic leaving wolski-arny-jones on 3, otherwise, right on.

by bushwah on Aug 28, 2008 12:54 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Might see some variations of that depending on who we play. Unless teams are trying to take liberties with Sakic, Wolski and Svats would both benefit from Joe setting them up. Wolksi won’t have to focus so much on setting people up and maybe can score a few more. Last season we all know Arnie couldn’t find the net and Svatos couldn’t set anyone up.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Aug 28, 2008 1:19 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

possibly

and it’s a good idea, but i doubt it until injuries take a toll.

let me be clear, this isn’t what i would want, it’s what i think they WILL do. my slightly unorthodox wants:

Smyth – Stastny – Svatos
Wolski – Sakic – Hejduk
Tucker – Hensick – Jones
McLeod – Guite – Lappy
Ledin – Parker

my dream, as always, is a scratched or traded Arny.

by thedoctor on Aug 28, 2008 3:04 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sakic isn’t willing to be a 2nd line center

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Aug 29, 2008 2:09 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He played on the second line a couple times last season. It’s not really a “second” line if it’s equal in ability (and playing time) with the “first” line. I think the top two combinations will be used almost equally by Granato, so Sakic’s place on the first or second lines won’t really matter too much.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 29, 2008 3:53 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t worry, by game 4 half the team will be out with injuries (knock on wood).

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 2:23 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN delirium

If anyone cares to read ESPN’s fantasy projections for this year, they’re predicting the avs to win a ballpark of 42 games, with Budaj winning 31 of them and Raycroft winning 11. I guess theyre expecting a 90 pt season from the avs this year…Half way down the season, when the avs are in contention for the Northwest title, AGAIN, we’ll see how they change their tune…

by EddieAVS on Aug 28, 2008 1:19 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only your optimism was contagious! That said, don’t let up.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 2:24 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think (and hope) Ledin will play a lot this year. It seems to me, just from watching some Youtube videos and seeing some pics of him, that he would be a great pest in the NHL. And a lot more awesome than Sean Avery…

by Mike the Avs Fan on Aug 28, 2008 2:16 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hlinka looked like a really great playmaker in the clips I’d seen of him before he joined the Avs. Let’s hope Ledin’s talents translate better than poor Hlinka’s did.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 2:24 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way, Peter Forsberg is no longer going to be referred to as “Foppa” or anything else on this blog. His new official nickname is “Tasty Gravy.” So let it be written, so let it be done.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 2:27 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like sauces

InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Aug 28, 2008 2:39 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m down, as long as we can call Arnason “Lumpy Gravy”

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 28, 2008 3:55 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking more along the lines of “Aren’t He” as in “Aren’t he gone yet?”

Sorry, my Southern is starting to peak through.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 3:56 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peek even.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 5:22 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lumpy Gravy?

Ew. I don’t like all sauces.

InYoFace Hasek! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Aug 28, 2008 4:23 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can’t we just call him Lumpy? Gravy flows better than he does, even lumpy gravy.

Now and then we had the hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be PIRATES.
-Mark Twain-

by Americanario on Aug 28, 2008 5:49 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm Truly Amazed

A blogger at THN (not Joe) finally gave the Avs their due and even recognized that Lil’ Stastny plays in the NHL.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/17681-THNcom-Blog-Sakics-return-worth-the-wait.html

2 down, 1 to go...

by texacogirl on Aug 28, 2008 6:36 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it only took two years.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe @ MHH on Aug 28, 2008 6:49 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arnason (yes)

/gets blue windbreaker
Byron Orpheus mode

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

26 Card Jet

by Tommelot on Aug 29, 2008 2:12 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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