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Game 8 Preview: Avalanche at Red Wings

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Colorado Avalanche
5:00 MT / 7:00 ET
Detroit Red Wings
5-1-1 October 17, 2009 3-3-0
11 pts
Joe Louis Arena
 6 pts
t-1st in West
Detroit, MI
11th in West

 

The rivalry may not be there on the ice, but Avalanche fans still HATE the Detroit Red Wings (and vise versa) and I am REALLY looking forward to tonight's game. The Wings are hurting a bit. Johan Franzen and Pavel Datsyuk will both miss tonight's game. Still a dangerous hockey team, though. Personally, I'm curious as to when the last time the Avs were ahead of the Wings in the standings when they played each other. Would it go back to before the lockout?

UPDATE: Saturday, February 14, 2004.  Avalanche 32-11-10-4 (78) vs. Red Wings 32-16-8-2 (74).  Avs won 5-2.  -Joe.

Both of the dickheads - Todd Bertuzzi and Brad May - will be in the lineup tonight. This article has a list of some of the line combos used in practice which will be a change from what they've been going with recently.

Craig Anderson will get his 8th straight start for the Colorado Avalanche. He'll face off against Chris Osgood (thanks to the fine folks at Left Wing Lock for posting that info).

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Red Wings Suck!

Red Wings Suck! Red Wings Suck!

by From the Point on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

There's

my deep thought for the morning!

by From the Point on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

stupid Red Wings logo gave me all kinds of trouble for the remedial HTML table above. Now I hate them even more

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Something no Avalanche player seems to understand, we want a fight with Todd Bertuzzi. I know that it’s water under the bridge for all the players but the fans have not forgotten. It doesn’t matter if you win the fight. It just matters that he’s called into action. From what I gather he was friends of a sort with Sakic. Maybe that’s why it’s never happened, even when Lappy was here and he understood the code better than anyone.

So, I know it’s dumb but I still think it’s unfinished business. It’s more symbolic than anything else. Adam Foote, I know your past your fighting days, but you would be immortalized in my heart as a fan if you did this. It doesn’t matter if bombs are thrown, just write this last chapter.

by Dario on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I hear ya man!

I would go just nuts in my living room if ANYONE on the Avs beat up that bastard!

by From the Point on Oct 17, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here’s one for a “Koci VS Bertha” bout!

by Tommelot on Oct 17, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Avs’ Keys to Victory

 - Avoid the Injured Animal Syndrome
There is no more dangerous animal than an injured one. The injuries are piling up, and they’re struggling, put your skate on their throat, and put this game away early. Give the Wings no hope

 - Anderson will have to be Roy-Some
This is one of those early season games where Craig Anderson can prove he is a big money goalie in the NHL. He’s had huge wins against Boston and Montreal. Plus, he looked sharp against the Blackhawks. Today is the first true test of Craig Anderson.

- Anti-Swede
Datsyuk is out, meaning the Avs have to shut down Team Sweden (Lidstrom and Zetterberg). They are capable of going off at any time. Also, Thomas Holmstrom is another player they are going to have to watch.

Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.

by InfamousM on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions  

I’m sure Andy will play a decent game.

by Tommelot on Oct 17, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

First real test? He has had great games against the Sharks, Bruins, Blackhawks…well he has had 8 good games. I think he has been tested.

This will be a true test of our young team as a whole…to see if they get scared playing the Wings.

by chiavsfan on Oct 17, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with you there…the young guys need to step up today.

Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.

by InfamousM on Oct 17, 2009 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the Avs get outshot EVERY game, and are stil 5-1-1 (which incidentally makes 7 good games for Andy…oops

by chiavsfan on Oct 17, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Roy-Some

Love that term. Needs to be added to that glossary. Yeah, I know, the one we’ll get in the same timely fashion as the Top 19 Avs players list.

Everytime an Avs’ goalie makes an amazing save, it will be “Roy-some.”

Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.

by hockeymom on Oct 17, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

You know, I don’t have to be the only one responsible for the glossary. You guys have fan posts, you could take the initiative.

Just saying.

The Avs may (or may not) suck now, but they've still won a Cup more recently than 75% of the NHL.

by Joe Dunman on Oct 17, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can a fan post be saved indefinitely or moved over to an area to keep around?

Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.

by hockeymom on Oct 17, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Love to see a

Duchene hat trick today! That would be sweet!!!

by Adam Manter on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Agreed!
The rivalry may not be there on the ice, but Avalanche fans still HATE the Detroit Red Wings…

Rivalries don’t die just because of some player changes. Just ask any Red Sox fan! I’m sure the Duke and Foote’s blood still boils a bit when they walk into Emptytown.

This game is one I’m really looking forward to as well. Unfortunately I’m going to have to split screen the Avs-Wings and the UVM-BC college game, after watching the Catamounts embarrass DU at home last Saturday!!!

Mr. Anderson. Welcome back, we've missed you!

by tele-mon on Oct 17, 2009 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Rivalry

Despite the Avs poor showing in the league last year they did VERY well against the Wings! People here at work lay a 6 or 12 pack on nearly every game between the two! So the rivalry is there with the fans.
Did I mention the Wings Suck? Ok, well, it can’t hurt to repeat it!

by From the Point on Oct 17, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why was his stick so long? It never did him any good.

by Tommelot on Oct 17, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

It would have if he used it

Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.

by InfamousM on Oct 17, 2009 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why do vain old men who can’t get it up buy shiny new sports cars?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

The world may never know.

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"

by Hopfenkopf on Oct 17, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Because

They couldn’t afford them when they were vain young men, obviously.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 17, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

was it osgood that said the rivalry was over??

i say we prove him wrong today!!!

Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange

by horbayj on Oct 17, 2009 11:12 AM MDT reply actions  

refs and bettman must have been trying to keep the rivalry going

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Oct 17, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

The rivaly is over? I don’t think it ever truly will be. Things like that never go away.

As far as the whole Bertuzzi thing goes, playing against him is nothing new for most of this team, after all, they played against him last year when he was with Calgary. They will know how to handle him.

by avsnucksfan11 on Oct 17, 2009 11:21 AM MDT reply actions  

Only 11 players on the ice tonight ever played against him.

by Tommelot on Oct 17, 2009 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would still like a countdown timer for each game. Is it true the game starts in 2 hours?

by Tommelot on Oct 17, 2009 12:37 PM MDT reply actions  

No. Puck drop is midnight GMT.

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"

by Hopfenkopf on Oct 17, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well that sucks

I might stay up anyway. Curse you, CET!

by eltharion_doa on Oct 17, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

The last time the Avs met the Red Wings while ahead in the standings was Feb 14, 2004.

Avalanche 32-11-10-4 (78) vs. Red Wings 32-16-8-2 (74).

The Avs won 5-2, but would be behind the Wings in the standings the next two times they met them that season.

By the way, this was a really depressing research project. Post updated.

The Avs may (or may not) suck now, but they've still won a Cup more recently than 75% of the NHL.

by Joe Dunman on Oct 17, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions  

You’re just doing the work for those other wanna-be blogs now. For your next project, here’s an easier one: When was the last time one of these teams choked at home at a Stanley Cup game seven?

Mr. Anderson. Welcome back, we've missed you!

by tele-mon on Oct 17, 2009 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

you rule!

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 17, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had to go out and buy BB’s Avalanche Ale to get my mind right.

I have to see the Red Wings destroyed today. I want to see their spirits crushed. I want to see their women lament the broken husks their husbands have become. I want to see all 18 of the fans in the stands crying and wiping their eyes with cock-shaped handkerchiefs. I want to see Joe Louis burn to the ground.

Bitter? What makes you ask that?

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Oct 17, 2009 3:05 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Red Wings Suck

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Oct 17, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

HELL YES!!! I have to find the YT video now…lol

Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.

by InfamousM on Oct 17, 2009 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have been looking for that vid for forever. You found it! Thanks!

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Oct 17, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Conan, what is best in life."

“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women.”

Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19

by InYoFace on Oct 17, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes indeed, this was the inspiration. but i couldn’t remember the exact quote.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Oct 17, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nothing would make the mini-quarantine of our swine flu filled home better, than a Detroit butt kicking.

Even worse is that I was supposed to cover the Blackhawks game as a reported for an Internet station here in Chicago. But I don’t want to infect the press-box, so I am forced to sit on the couch tonight. I believe I am doing next Saturday’s game…when I have my report up, I’ll link it in a fan-shot

P.S. – The whole family is doing better, though if anyone want a 3-year-old H1N1 infected child with an EXTREMELY bad attitude, we’ll sell him for about 50-cents :) Kidding

by chiavsfan on Oct 17, 2009 3:33 PM MDT reply actions  

i got a dime and two buffalo nickles… would that get the job done?

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Oct 17, 2009 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow...

When did Pens’ fans grow a brain?

Wings Suck

Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.

by InfamousM on Oct 17, 2009 3:42 PM MDT reply actions  

prediction

Avs win it 5-2. Goals from Wolski, Stastny, Mcleod, and Quincey. The fifth goal? oh yes, matt duchene gets his first on the power play. we’ll see how well i do

by joesakicisahockeygod on Oct 17, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions  

preditction:

Avs 4, Wings 2.

Goals from Quincey (PP), Stats, Duchene (breakaway), and Wols.

Avs off to a good start, then slow down by end of 1st, hold thier own in the second, crush in the 3rd.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Oct 17, 2009 4:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Wings Fan Here

Hey, I know how annoying it is when a non-Wings fan comes on Red Wings boards just to spam insults, so I’ll be as civil as possible. Only posting here cause he was talking about the Wings/Avalanche rivalry, so I thought I’d give you a Detroit perspective on it.

It’s pretty much dead here. Whenever our teams play each other, it’s always “Hey, remember that rivalry a few years ago? Man that thing kicked ass. I wish it would come back.” We don’t feel the hatred that (apparently) you guys do. Not any more. For most of us, we feel like it’s over, and we feel like we ‘won’ it.

But hey, we got some injuries, we lost some players, maybe our quality will go down a bit, you guys will go up a bit, and they’ll be a reason for the rivalry to return.

Oh, and look at that. You guys just scored, making it 2-1. Maybe it’s a sign.

by Spurple on Oct 17, 2009 7:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for being civil. You’re one of a kind when it comes to Wings fans.

And the rivalry lives in your hearts—-because every time you lose to the Avs you get pissed and you know it.

The Avs may (or may not) suck now, but they've still won a Cup more recently than 75% of the NHL.

by Joe Dunman on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just used a lot more words than that to say about the same thing.

Get rid of the loser point

09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!

by TheRed on Oct 17, 2009 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s pretty much dead here.

But enough about that shithole you live in.

Where will you be on October 1st, 2009 at 6:45 PM Mountain Time?

by Bob in Boulder on Oct 17, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions  

But enough about that shithole you live in.

Yeah, it does suck. But all the Stanley Cups help a little.

by Spurple on Oct 17, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or they would

If you actually had anything to do with it. :) But no, it still sucks to live there. However, thank you for the rational comment.

Part of rivalries being great is that there IS ebb and flow, and while we are admittedly on the losing side right now in terms of regular season records, if you look at head to head playoff series records, I believe we are still even. And when we are back on top and kicking Red Wing ass again, (oh, you say, like tonight?) we will still hate. It may not make us better fans, but it might make us more passionate. And the rest of the league agrees with us. Look at what happens during the “Battle of Alberta”, Chicago-Detroit, Habs-Quebec (they still hate us, even as colorado) and you’ll see that rivalries transcend records. And when a team that has been on the down slope comes back up, that rivalry flares. To declare otherwise is to be ignorant of history (and thus doomed to repeat it; beware the 80’s when Detroit couldn’t sell out a bathtub and had to give away cars to get people in the stands)

My point is that for any Red WIngs fan to say the rivalry is over is to admit to an insecurity complex because they are afraid of what might happen if they acknowledged the fact that it is very real for many people. And it is also fear of what could very well be happening already to your team.

Sure you have more cups than us. You have undoubtedly had a good if not great hockey team for awhile now. Does that mean you’ve won any sort of championship as a fan? Hell no, Montreal won that shit 30 years ago, and 2nd place is first loser. Call yourself Hockeytown all you want. Check and see who holds the current longest sellout streak in the NHL. People have to actually show up to your games if you want to declare yourself a dedicated fanbase. All I see is every Canadian city laughing at yet more ignorant American marketing to the ego of “now”, and crying that they still can’t have a team.

So, until next Saturday….. let my gloating reign supreme.

Get rid of the loser point

09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!

by TheRed on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Those banners would make great kindling on Devil’s Night.

The Avs may (or may not) suck now, but they've still won a Cup more recently than 75% of the NHL.

by Joe Dunman on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

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