Game 13 Preview: Avalanche at Flames
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 28, 2009 6:54 AM MDT
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| Colorado Avalanche |
7:30 MT / 9:30 ET |
Calgary Flames |
| 9-1-2 |
October 28, 2009 | 7-2-1 |
| 20 pts |
Pengrowth Saddledome |
15 pts |
| Still #1 |
Calgary, AB |
t-3rd in West |
Boy, how about that game last night, eh?
Okay, actually, as you saw in my recap last night, I've been a little busy lately at work. In the old days, I could churn one of these out in the morning in cubicle land. I switched jobs this week and I don't have that luxury at the moment. So, I'm doing the previews the night before for a while. In this case, I'm writing most of this before the Avs and Oilers dropped the puck, so some info may not have that morning fresh feeling.
The Avalanche tonight will be playing their 4th game in 6 nights tonight. They are banged up, flu'd up and, I'm guessing, a wee bit travel weary. Meanwhile, the slack-ass Calgary Flames are in the middle of a 5-game home stand and have been lounging around since they last played on Saturday. Calgary is off to a good start, and they are a perfect 5-0 against the NW division. The Flames are lead in scoring by freaking Rene Bourque. He has 14 effin' points so far in 10 games. This from a guy who's career best is 40 points. Nigel Dawes and Dustin Boyd both have 6 points already. Seriously, did they do something to the water up there? Even that clown Phaneuf is doing well.
I'm assuming it will be Anderson v Kiprusoff tonight. [Update: confirmed.]
ADDENDUM: Calgary Herald preview
Avalanche difference maker: T.J. Galiardi. This former Calgary Hitman and native Calgarian is basically on home turf tonight.
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Even if the Avs lose this game tonight…no worries here.This just (every day) looks more like a real team than anything we saw last year.
Happy Birthday! Toddler’s is Friday. I’ve got to figure out what to call him now that he’s 3. Toddler doesn’t really fit anymore. :-(
Welcome to the 30 club!
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
It’s a club i’ll be joining in a few months
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s not all that different from 29, except my knees hurt more when it rains.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
all you young whippersnappers piss me off
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 28, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
sorry
I’ll get off of your lawn as soon as I get my ball back.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
you can’t see me, but I’m shaking my cane at you right now, Cornelius P Schwertfeger III. oh, you Schwertgers are a horrible bunch
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you call us “knuckleheads”
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah. My knees, hands, and wrists hurt way more in cold weather. But, hey. You’re right about being 30. It’s no different than 29. I don’t want to know what the rest of the decade feels like.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
downhill.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
You all SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beachie: Injuring hottie Avs players' almighty groins since 1996
by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Why? cause now they’re too young for you MS. COUGAR?
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions
February Birthdays
Are the best birthdays
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed. And on the beer note, neither can Duchene or O’Reilly!
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
They’re from Canada (and they’re currently in Canada), so yes they can!
"The bottom line is we have to make the playoffs and whatever it takes, that's what will happen."
- Craig Anderson.
I like this guy's attitude.
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 28, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope
Drinking age is 19 there, I believe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
nope
18 in alberta (i should know)
19 in the rest of canada, minus quebec and newfoundland
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
ahh
I thought it was 19 across the board. Well then.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
much like everything else in quebec (street signs, traffic lights) drinking age is merly a suggestion
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
same in Greece. i nearly got rear-ended for stopping at a stop sign this summer. made for some fun driving! especially when i got back to the states. lol.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I was actually in Alberta over the summer, it is 18. I didn’t really get to enjoy it since I was mostly there just to drive my parents there. I was on somewhat of a leash, lol.
"The bottom line is we have to make the playoffs and whatever it takes, that's what will happen."
- Craig Anderson.
I like this guy's attitude.
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 28, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
haha sorry dashing, it’s only cause i live here that i know :P
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
No need to apologize. I’m used to my ignorance being exposed.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
27 is late 20s
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
is that a reference to something, or are you serious…cause im out to lunch
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
30+ and I got the above joke.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I hate that I'm missing tonight's game.
Ughguhguhgughuhgugh.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
Im gonna miss some...
gonna have to flick back and forth Yankees are on today!
"What do the Detroit Red Wings and the Titanic have in common?
They both look good until they hit the ice!"
Visit> avaholicsanonymousny.blogspot.com
by SportsDalaiLama on Oct 28, 2009 6:27 AM MDT up reply actions
So much for getting to bed early tonight. These late starts are good on one side because the little guy’s in bed for most of it, but bad on the other because I’m so tired the next day!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 28, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s great for me….I live in the Pacific Time zone.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I think I'm new enough to ask this without looking foolish...
What’s a unipron?
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 28, 2009 8:09 AM MDT reply actions
The piping on the Avalanche jerseys makes the front look like an apron.
Uniform + apron = Unipron.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
ah, thanks
I was thinking along the lines of unicorn, and trying to see it, but it just wasn’t making sense.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 28, 2009 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I guess Unipron could also mean unicorn pornography, but that’s weird.
I hope I didn’t start a Photoshop battle.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
hmmmm...
There could be Uniprom, a Unicorn formal.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions
That was as funny as it was painful. Haha
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Off topic
Another msklfb##?
You guys are all going to turn into a giant massive blob (even though I haven’t seen mcarson in a while)
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I think everybody should change to their real names.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
I don't want to be made fun of
My real name is actually Cornelius P Schwertfeger III
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Of the upper penninsula Schwertfegers?
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 28, 2009 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Are you insulting me by saying my family hails from Michigan (My mom’s side actually does come from there, near the UP)
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions
This is my real name, my parents are dicks.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha… you made me burst out laughing in class.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s what I do. Pay attention to your teacher, you probably won’t use any of it in ‘real life’. I was a history major with minors in philosophy and political science, which I now don’t use at all in my career in sales—but it makes me an interesting person.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m a history minor. Outdoor Leadership major. Yes. I’m majoring in hiking.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
now that’s something you’ll use in real life.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
It is, actually. At least, I sure as heck hope so.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Nah, I can do winter hiking too. Or work for a ski resort.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Sounds like the Pro-Golf Management Major at MSU. Although whenever I talked to those guys, they made it sounds like a really big deal. We had people coming from all over the country for it.
They were also the best partyers. Just sayin’
Hmm
Hopefully you have courses in “Barista 101” and “how to live with your folks until you’re 35” for all the jobs you’ll get out of college.
I kid I kid
/Physical Science major.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I kid
but there’s some truth to it too
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Good thing I don’t care that much about money. As long as I have a job doing what I love, money isn’t all that important.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Me neither
I love my job, I just happen to get paid a lot (relatively) for doing it.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
History Degree
and now I work in a bar making beer. But I know SO much more than all the other mfer’s at the bar.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
It is fun to be awesome at trivial pursuit.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
he’s mocking those people that us m-something-something-randomnumber for their handles. He gets us confused.
Thanks Joe...
I have been planning on changing mine, but i’m not very creative, which is why I went with this to begin with.
Thanks Joe...
Well, let me know when you change yours
I will change mine to something similar to keep up the confusion quotient
wait, those aren’t your real names?
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Members at MHH:
muzia02
mfured20
mcarson02
And there’s probably a couple who post who I just assume are one of you three too.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
fantasy team name.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I actually have a very rosey and cheery outlook on life.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Split personality disorder.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh, and I’m not even remotely serious. It’s from a web cartoon.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Mine’s a total lack of creativity: Firstname + Avsfan. Lol.
"The bottom line is we have to make the playoffs and whatever it takes, that's what will happen."
- Craig Anderson.
I like this guy's attitude.
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 28, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions
American + Canario (Spanish inhabitant of the Canary Islands – my adopted home) = Americanario.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
My friends little brother made up the word “Jibblescribbits” to essentially mean “random nonsense”
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I try
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
agreed
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I got too wrapped up in my previous career with
wait for it….
Texaco
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Mine is pretty self-explanatory I think, but after the past few days with Joe being back, maybe not.
I’m Mike @ MHH’s wife. He got here first, and while posting about me called me Mrs., so when I finally stopped lurking I just took the name.
Mine comes from a television show I’m currently writing, about a family who loses everything, and the one son who tries to keep them all together.
I call it “Restricted Advancement”
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 28, 2009 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I just win.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Oct 29, 2009 3:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I am the Infamous One…got that nickname in the ZHL league…when I traded 7 years worth of picks for Jagr…so I took it and ran with it.
Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.
…and we also had this thing called a “Random Event Generator”…where I was ejected from a game for going #2 on the ice to protest a call.
Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.
Haha. makes me think of real life.
I got ejected for mooning a ref. True Story.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
Yeah that’s absurd. Our 3rd line has more scoring talent then our 2nd with Jones and Galiardi. Duchene needs a winger. Ring…ring…“Hey Sherman, please get Kovalchuk?”
Avalanche 2009-2010: We fend off 7 man power plays? Do you?
Not until Kovalchuk heals up.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
That is crazy talk… Would be awesome, but what would we have to give up? the team seems pretty set on rebuilding right now.
Mr. Anderson - THE ONE
by slapshotr2007 on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m begining to think of Svats as the new Arny…yeah, he is bugging me THAT bad!!!
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions
As least Svatos tries…
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Often counter-productively.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
I know
that was super harsh, but Damn man! Where is that scoring machine we saw?…once.
I can forgive a lot if he would score more, but it ain’t happenin’
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
News flash,
Svats isn’t in Kindergarten anymore, so the A for effort shit is a bit over.
I, for example, am stronger on the puck than Svats. From my living room. In my underwear. Seriously.
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What is up with all the Svats hate? Yeesh. MHH has found they’re new whipping boy I guess. Clark is much worse than Svats on any given night.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Hopfenkopf,
Agreed, and I’ve never even seen you on a puck, in your livingroom, in your underwear…thankfully
At least the team could move Clark down in the pairings…Svats is even more useless the lower in the lines he goes…
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Clark is undoubtedly <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Svats. That being said, the thing that frustrates me so terribly is Svats’ potential and his, to date, failure to realize same. I know he was hurt, but he’s had well nigh a year to recover get back on the horse. I have historically been one of his greatest defenders, but at some point the kid’s gotta do more than score one of two shootout opportunities (hyperbole, I know, but….).
If this year has proven nothing else, its that effort, when consistently applied, gets the job done (cf my signature). I’m not convinced this year that Svats’ effort is on par with prior years and his relative invisibility would seem to bear out my suspicions.
Clark is, at best, a 5-6 Dman in the NHL. I’ve always thought so. Lucky for him he has a good agent and was dealing with ole Frankie G.
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i don’t hate him, and i appreciate his effort and PP work, but he’s such a liability at even strength. I’m frustrated at how he’s holding back Duchene.
yes!
I’m beginning to think Duchie is trying to do it all by himself out there. No one to pass to, or get a pass from…
I don’t hate Svats either, just bummed he hasn’t panned out yet…
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions
so the A for effort shit is a bit over.
In the comparison to T. Arnason, Svatos’s effort is a plus for him…it’s not to say he should be kept on the ice for it.
Arnason never seemed to put any effort in, Svatos has that over him.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Game thread last night
We saw a Stewart-O’Reilly-Jones line. I liked it, a lot, but I’d love to see:
Royal line
Stewart – Duchene – Jones
McLeod – O’Reilly – Galiardi
Durno – Willsie – Hendricks
I realize this leaves Svatos out (who doesn’t deserve a healthy scratch), but geez. He just seems like a really bad fit for this team.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
All his points are on the PP, and he doesn’t even have that many of those. They should trade him for another underpreforming forward somewhere out east. Lapeirrier from MON or Larose from CAR come to mind—-or just give him a fresh start somewhere else, I think he’d thrive in pittsburgh, get a draft pick for him.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions
agree
I don’t think the avs will move him until the trade deadline. The skill set on this team seems to play to highlight Svatos’ disadvantages, and not use his assets.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you but they need to bench him, if you didn’t see his name on the scorer’s sheet with a 0/0/0 line next to it, you wouldn’t even know he was there. His idea of defense is getting in the way of the opposition….but he’s still better than tyler arnason, by far.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Doc, that is a good one. It’s going up on the whiteboard for the day!
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Melrose
Just listened to his morning take. he used the term smoke and mirrors to desribe the Avs. Could barely name the players. Better gird ourselves for even more moronic insights and glee when we lose a few. Good grief.
That’s OK…the more Melrose bashes the Avs, the better the Avs will be. Remember, anytime Melrose picks you to be good, you better watch out…
He has a job? I didn’t know anybody had hired him.
I know it was modeled after somebody else, but I always think of him when I see Mike Meyers’ character in “Mystery Alaska”.
I was at game 7 in 01’ and when the camera paned on him the crowd seranaded him with, “Devils in 6.” It was awesome.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
How does “smoke and mirrors” apply to any team that actually wins games? It’s not even a decent analogy.
Maybe “flash in the pan” or “house of cards,” or something like that, but “smoke and mirrors” suggests a scam or a hustle. The Avs didn’t scam their way to 9-1-2.
OK, I’m done.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
What’s the deal with Denver teams not getting any respect? The Broncos are 6-0, and people say it’s a fluke. The Rockies were one of the best teams in the league during the second half of the season, and yet certified moron John Kruk was still saying during the last week of the season they’d lose the wildcard to the Braves. And of course, the Avs. Is this just the usual east-coast bias, or something else?
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
For the Avs, it’s mostly because everybody expected and still expects the team to be really bad. They can’t get over their own incorrect predictions. Back in the day everybody had no problem with a dominant Avalanche team. They’re just didn’t expect it this time.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
Agreed! Same deal witht he Broncos. I’m MORE than happy to admit how wrong I was about the Broncos, because winning cures all!
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
They’re just didn’t expect it this time.
I didn’t expect my grammar to be that bad. Ouch.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
so much for law school
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
That’s why he looking at law and not teaching English.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
he looking at law
and why you don’t either. ; -)
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I wanted to do that but held back.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
I have so far refrained from posting the absolutely laughable letter that my mom’s attorney received from opposing counsel during her recent divorce. It was more like a Mad Libs than a letter. I mean, damn….
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - See what can happen if you like, you know, try and stuff?
Oh man, I bet it’s good.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
Spanish, Art (drawing and painting), and Ceramics
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Start college as a computer graphics and illustration major. Took Spanish classes just to keep up/practice the language (after having lived in Spain). Ended graduating with a Bachelors of Arts and Humanities in Spanish with the Art minor.
Spanish is actually what got me the job at my current school. They needed an Art teacher, but not full time. Since I could also teach Spanish, they let one of their other Spanish teachers go back to teaching history/government full time and hired me.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Cool! So you kill 2 birds with one stone, huh? I bet they were drooling by the end of your interview with the amount of cash saved!
Plus I coach…Track and Field and Cross Country (I also coached Freshman Girls Basket Ball last season – ugh)
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
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by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I went over this at From the point a little:
It’s because people assume how the Avs ended last season is their “normal” so this can’t possibly be real. They think last year the Avs played exactly where they should play and that this hot start can’t possibly hold because the Avs are as bad as last season, ignoring the fact that
a) There’s been numerous changes for the better
b) The Avs were plenty unlucky last season and shouldn’t have been as bad as they were.
When everyone (and people in the Avs roundtable included in this) made prognostications we all accepted last season as normal, and forgot that the same team made the playoffs the season before last. There are plenty of indicators that the Avs were an incredibly unlucky team last season (Injuries and shooting percentage being two areas I have noticed).
Essentially the Avs shouldn’t have been as bad as they were last season, and probably should have finished in the 12th or 11th range. this season they have improved since last season (that should be obvious to anyone) and they are playing a bit above their heads.
when people talk about the Avs, they should be keeping all three of those things in mind (where they should have been, improvement, and playing above their heads), but all anyone focuses on is the latter, and assumes that they’ll return to where they were last season, which would take an unprecedented amount of bad luck to happen.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
hmm
this would make for a good blog post, I might do this today or tomorrow (especially if tomorrow is a snow day)
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
You should cite this battered logic in your post (from Canes Country):
Colorado: I could find a million things that will go downhill eventually for the Avs, but I can guarantee they won’t continue to convert on the power play at a league-high 30.3 percent, especially when they were tied for 25th last year (15.7) with Ryan Smyth and Joe Sakic in the lineup at least part of the time.
Translation: they sucked last season with “better” players, so they’re actually bad this season, since every other factor is exactly the same.
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I don’t think Sakic’s presence affected the line-up at all last year, sadly enough.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
No, and whether or not he was on the PP at all doesn’t matter. He was on the PP in 2000-01 when it was freaking amazing, and he was on it in 2007-08 when it was slaughtering kittens left and right.
Horrible PPs have great players on them, and great PPs can have average players. There’s more factors than the name on the back of the jersey.
(Not arguing with you, just saying)
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Joe Sakic: Kitten Killer.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe that’s what he was really doing with the snowblower?
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
The hard part is that it’s impossible to argue against that. He’s right, the Avs won’t (and haven’t) continue at a 30.3% Power play.
Craig Anderson probably won’t post an overall .940 save % on the season.
The Avs probably won’t shoot 11% on the season.
The problem is that everyone thinks that when these numbers return to a more normal #, the Avs will regress to their play of last season. Just watching 10 games I can tell you that’s not the case. This years Avs would crush last years Avs 6-0 9 times out of ten.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly. And it’s not like a team has to maintain all of those numbers to be successful. We know for a goddamn fact that Detroit has won a Cup or four with way worse goaltending numbers than .940.
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Ok Joe, another stat question for you
What is the usual save percentage for a cup winning team? Yeah i know that few goalie post a .930 or better but still. Even if he posts a .920 we’ll still win a shit ton of games.
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Here’s the number one goalie for each of the Cup winners in the last decade. If the goalie duties were fairly evenly split, I’ll list both.
2009: (Penguins) Fleury – .912
2008: (Red Wings) Hasek – .902, Osgood – .914
2007: (Ducks) Giguere – .918
2006: (Hurricanes) Gerber – .906
2004: (Lightning) Khabibulin – .910, Grahame – .913
2003: (Devils) Brodeur – .914
2002: (Red Wings) Hasek – .915
2001: (Avalanche) Roy – .913
2000: (Devils) Brodeur – .910
1999: (Stars) Belfour – .915
There isn’t a single Cup-winning goalie with a .920.
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You are like my own wikipedia
So Mirtle…Anderson will cool off. Let’s say he cools off to .915. We can still do well.
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So if we project that math out
Anderson @ .915 means 1 more GA/game
Colorado Team Stats:
Goals Scored/game: 3.33
Goals Allowed/game: 3.00 (prorated with Anderson at .915)
That still means we are a good team and win more than we lose, right?
Hmm
Is this for the finals or the whole playoffs? (Ward won it in 06 FYI)
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
The season as a whole. The main contention by the critics is that the Avs won’t even make the playoffs if Anderson doesn’t maintain .930 or something like that, which they say is impossible anyway.
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Oh i see
The critics think the Avs are giving their fans blue balls and are worried that we’ll be painfully disappointed later. Oh, they are just worried about us. How nice of them.
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On political blogs, that’s called “concern trolling.”
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ahh
Mine above is Save % in the finals.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Stanley Cup finals Goalies playoff save %:
09:
Osgood: 0.926
Fleury: .908
08:
Osgood: .930
Fleury: .933
07:
Emery: .907
Giguere: .922
06:
Ward: .920
Roloson: .927
04
Khabibulin: .933
Kiprusoff: .928
03
Giguere: .945
Brodeur: .934
02
Irbe: .938
Hasek: .920
01
Roy: .934
Brodeur: .897
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Per my comment above, Mirtle (and others) contend that Anderson can’t maintain his current save percentage (he probably can’t), and that means the Avs won’t make the playoffs. They’ll go back to what was predicted for them. The stats I posted showed that a team can make it to the playoffs and eventually win the Cup with a goalie far worse than .930 or even .925.
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Got it
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
if his % ‘slips’ to say .920 and the teams goals for ‘slips’ from 3.41 to say, 3.0, that still probably has them chugging along at what winning 3 of 5 or so? Pretty damn good still.
This team has lost one freakin’ game in the last month, I think they might lose 3-5 this coming month, does that make them a ‘flash in the pan’ or completely awesome? My vote is completely awesome.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, like I’ve been asking, exactly how much longer do they have to keep winning like this before we and everybody else are convinced they’re actually a great hockey team? Another month? Two months? The last day of the season?
Probably the last day of the season.
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Also
Teams Avs have beaten:
Bruins
Sharks
Les Ailes (x2)
Carolina
Vancouver.
You’d think this would mean either:
a) This isn’t the same as last season
b) The Avs are legit
c) both of the above.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Where did I say the Avs won’t make the playoffs? I don’t think I even made a prediction on that front at all.
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by James Mirtle on Oct 28, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t worry about people ragging on you, Mirtle. As you can see we here are riding an unprecedented and blinding wave of optimism and excitement (we might be getting the old Avs back!) and people are cross at you simply for inadvertently killing our buzz..
Personally I’m pretty shocked about the turnaround and actually still can’t really believe it. I also can’t fully believe we’ll make the playoffs either, there’s still some doubt in my mind. But my hope grows stronger with every day!
"The bottom line is we have to make the playoffs and whatever it takes, that's what will happen."
- Craig Anderson.
I like this guy's attitude.
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions
This pretty much echoes my sentiment as well.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
You didn't
…exactly, but you saud ‘the wheels will come off’ and that’s pretty much the same…
No?
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
The Habs, Rangers and Sabres were 1-2-3 in the East after one month last year, and I’d argue the wheels came off for all three of those teams. They finished 7-8-10 and all lost in the first round.
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by James Mirtle on Oct 28, 2009 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
These finals stats prove one thing to me
The guy with the “Martin Broduer is a fraud” website is on to something.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
they’ll cool off, but even if they win 4 of 6 or have a couple of .500 weeks, they’ll still be pretty damn good.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s a Hurricanes fan…I’m shocked he had enough time between drooling at his sister, wishing for indoor plumbing, writing “wrasslers” on how real he thinks they are, and getting ready for his NASCAR race to even think about hockey.
Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.
Just a point. We might have to stop calling the Avs “unlucky”. We sucked for one season and got Duchene and Radar out of it. Perhaps we were lucky.
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You know when philly sucked and turned it around in a year. I don’t recall that many people bashing them for being lucky.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t recall many saying “Well they are just incredibly unlucky” outside Altitude.
Maybe McNab was right, we just didn’t want to hear it
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s a joke. All these “experts” and “pundits” just don’t want to have been wrong. So wrong in fact to predict who the worst team will be and have that team be good.
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And not just good, but the BEST team.
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It comes from reading box scores and not watching any of the games. I’d be surprised if any of them have seen anything more than highlights.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
With how good Radar has been so far this year, I feel like we managed to get two top draft picks out of one year of suckiness. I’ll take that.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I keep seeing that the Avs were running to the podium to select O’Reilly. They couldn’t believe he was still available. So either there were a lot of good kids out there, or there was something about O’Reilly that turned team away early. Still many people thought he was a first round caliber pick.
So yea essentially the Avs got two first round picks with out trading away the future a la Burke.
We all have dreams. But in order to make dreams come into reality, it takes an awful lot of determination, dedication, self-discipline, and effort. - Jesse Owens -
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by Americanario on Oct 28, 2009 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Context
I certainly won’t defend Melrose, but to me it seemed he was trying to say, in a stuttering mess, that the Avs were winning despite holding things together while so many players were injured. And with that, I can see his point. We’re dressing Willsie for god’s sake.
His smoke and mirrors comment i want to say is just a failure on his part to come up with an appropriate analogy.
I guess I just don’t want to sound like a Red Wings fan who gets all bent out of shape every time they feel slighted when someone doesn’t pick them to win the cup and cure cancer.
I just Melrose to use relevant analogies, that’s all. I think it’s still quite reasonable to think the Avs will soon cool down and start losing more games. But that doesn’t mean they’re fooling the NHL somehow or that their success isn’t the product of good coaching and a system that works.
Besides, anyone who honestly expects the Avs to win the Cup this year is out of their damn minds. Not that it couldn’t happen, but you know…
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More Important Question for those statistic people on here
When was the last time we were alone at number 1 in the leauge? 2003?
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On it. Give me a few minutes.
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I believe the last time the Avalanche held the sole NHL lead was February 9, 2004.
The Avs were 30-11-9-4 (73), with both Detroit and Philadelphia one point behind. The next day, the Flyers tied the Avs in overall points and the rest of the year the Avs would fall just behind Detroit in the West standings.
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That must have been when our 3rd line was Konowalchuk, Selanne, and Kariya…Jesus Christ
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Not sure if everybody was back from their injuries then, but yeah, that roster was stacked.
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plus, they had an awesome coach
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I hope that someone steals Dion Phadouche’s truck.
Oh wait that already happened.
Can we get an Avs fan to do it again. He played like crap the night his country music playing, small p*nis having, ass-hat wagon was stolen.
by Ben from Portland on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM MDT reply actions
You know what? Fuck it. Defending this team to fans of other teams/other media is like defending hockey to a non-hockey fan, you get defensive and try to tell them and they just don’t get it. So you know what? I want this team to break the 77-78 canadiens record for most points and I want someone to punch that douchebag, cheating Phaneuf right in the nose (Koci preferabily) tonight.
This team will make the playoffs and upset the Sharks in the first round...it's our turn.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 AM MDT reply actions
Blurb about how the Avalanche got their name
not new to most of us, but figured i’d throw it in here anyway -
22. Colorado Avalanche
Rockies, the nickname for Colorado’s hockey team that left for New Jersey in 1982, had been adopted by Denver’s baseball team by the time the Quebec Nordiques left Canada for the Front Range in 1995. Management originally wanted to name the team Extreme, but received all sorts of negative feedback, and justifiably so. Avalanche, which eventually beat out Black Bears, Outlaws, Storm, Wranglers, Renegades, Rapids, and Cougars, drew some criticism, as well, given their deadly nature. A member of the marketing group responsible for naming the team replied: "This is the NHL, a rough and tough sport, and Avalanche is something that matches the ‘on the edge’ feel they want to create. Hey, Cougars and Bears kill people, too. People shouldn’t get so excited about Avalanche being a disrespectful name or something. It’s just a name."
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/36114
Thanks Joe...
Poll
they did a poll for the name at one point, and the best suggestion I saw was that they should have been named “The Storm Kings” in honor of the fireman that had died on Storm King Mountain. I thought that was an awesome idea.
I know it wouldn’t fly, due to the Kings already being a team name, and I’m happy with Avalanche, but I thought Storm Kings would be a cool name.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I propose we change the name
The Colorado Joe Sakics. It has a ring to it.
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Naw
We’ll be 0 fer against the snow blowers.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Only thing is… we could never ever EVER live up to the name.
by Rather Dashing on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh Thank Roy it wasn’t the Wranglers! What a stupid name!
by From the Point on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Thats exactly what struck me… the Wranglers? Even the Black Bears would have sucked, we would have to put up with a thousand Ditka-Chris-Farley jokes an hour.
Same with the Cougars, especially with the connotations that have evolved over the last couple of years [Beachie, I’m looking at you!]. Hahaha, I remember reading about how the team used to go down to Cherry Creek after games to eat at Elway’s or Macaroni Grill… Those jokes would have been too priceless.
Interesting to see how the rest of the names have caught on with other sports tho… The Rapids games are kinda fun to go to, but I haven’t been an Outlaw game yet.
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I AM NOT A COUGAR DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god how i hate that term. whatever happened to MILF? now that was a term i could get behind (yes, i did that on purpose)
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think so
I thought MILF just meant hot woman who has kids, and it spread to hot woman older than about 35.
Cougar has a certain desperation too it, in my opinion. Like a woman who just needs a man or something.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Cougar has a certain desperation too
exactly. and gives the impression that the woman is out hunting for some young stud due to that desperation. that is definitely not me.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I see what you’re saying. MILF and its variations imply that the source of the interest is the other way around. The older woman is desired by the younger man.
Interesting.
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exactly.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
haha! i say that all the time and people look at me like i’m speaking Ugandan or something
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Oct 28, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions
so funny!
the teacher in this great class I went to at the beginning of the month kept saying that! I had never heard it before.
I was there when they lifted #19 to the rafters. Were you?
I love MHH.
What a conversation.
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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 29, 2009 3:43 AM MDT up reply actions
See I dont get that connotation at all… Cougars, to me, are older, confident women that know what they want. Financially independent [meaning they already have good jobs / careers], and looking for a good time.
Thanks Joe...
very, obviously.
Altho I could see how it can be interpreted differently… Especially with guys that want to go ‘Cougar hunting’, ’I’m gonna bag myself a Cougar tonight!‘, etc. Some of the male poplulation seems to count that as something like ’I’m just looking for a 6 that doesnt talk much! Bring em on!"
Thanks Joe...
I think cougar got a pretty negative connotation once it started being used to describe the 35+ year old women who were out at clubs frequented by 20-somethings throwing themselves at the men there.
At my bachelor party we went to a club where there was a 40+ woman who would definitely be a “Cougar”. She flashed us her boobs, danced with my friends and eventually took my friend home (he doesn’t get off scott free here either, he’s a man-whore).
I guess that’s how I pictured "Cougar"and why it has a certain sense of “Sleeping with a younger man for fear of aging” desperation to it.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I always had a creepy think about “cougars”…it always sounded like the women were trying to take advantage of younger, more naive man.
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but what guy is going to turn down gettin some? and gettin some from a hot 30+ lady is always a good thing
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
That’s what I meant…although it would be nice to be a boytoy for once…
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That's what she said
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 28, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions