Game 19 Recap: Blackhawks 3 - Avalance 2 (SO)
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 11, 2009 9:33 PM MST
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Of course it was going to a shootout.
Man, I wish we could play the Blackhawks 82 times a year, as the three matches between the clubs so far have been dandies. Tonight's game was a lot of fun to watch. Craig Anderson is a freaking monster. Matt Duchene was marvelous (and, still scoreless). Kyle Cumiskey learned that he doesn't need to think before shooting (but then forgot later on in the game). The Avs' powerplay still needs work, but at least they stayed out of the box tonight.
I would have loved to see more than 3 shots in the 3rd period, however. I also would have loved to see someone other than Darcy Tucker take that 3rd shootout try. I still would like to see better linemates for Duchene (how about TJ Hensick, who is playing very well). And I certainly could have done without the Altitude graphics person misspelling the word "Sargeant"...especially on freaking Veteran's Day. But, you can't have it all. The game was exciting, the Avs got a point. I'm moderately happy.
Cutting this short to again try for a game of mini golf. Kudos on breaking a thousand in tonight's game thread. You guys rock.
Oh, and our favorite Chicago radio personality - chiavsfan - was covering the game. Here's his terrific radio recap.
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Good game but could have been better. A win would have been nice and three fewer post (two by Duchene and Wolski’s in the SO) could have helped. Still, unlike last season’s team, the Avs got the game into extra time despite getting out played in the third.
One thing looking a little scary is that the Flamers are three games back but only 4pts. If the Flamers win two of those they are tied with the Avs…
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by Americanario on Nov 11, 2009 9:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The flames being close
doesn’t scare me. I’m just glad we are in a battle for the division lead. Really, it’s not as if I expected this. I don’t feel the way I did when our division leading streak came to an end. I’m just stoked we are this good so far. If we ended up 2nd or even a close third in division I think the avs will have overachieved.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At this point I’m sure we’d all be fine with 2nd place in the division.
Anything except dead last is perfectly fine by me!!!
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am new, and dumb, but...
…if the Avalanche reach the playoffs in any way, shape, or form, I think that’s overachieving, and a successful season.
by moltobenny on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt say ‘overachieving’, but it would definately be surprising based on what we thought we had in store earlier in the year. You weren’t alone, many of us here consider the start we have had to be fantastic.
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Nov 11, 2009 11:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so true. I have to say they have taken me by complete surprise! Wish I could have seen the game last night…I had choir practice…so I just kept track on my phone when the other sections were working. Yay for technology!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Nov 12, 2009 8:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I also would have loved to see someone other than Darcy Tucker take that 3rd shootout try
Beachie and I have decided this didn’t happen. Please remove from your post. Soviet Russia thanks you.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
In Soviet Russia
Shootouts try Tucker!
Okay, that didn’t make any sense.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
by InYoFace on Nov 11, 2009 9:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it didn’t make sense, but neither did Soviet Russia. I LOL’d
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 10:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I only wish I could think of some other Avalanche player who had already got the winning goal in a shootout against the Blackhawks this year.
by moltobenny on Nov 11, 2009 10:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, Snark.
Well done Danielsan
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 10:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this new guy. he’s one of us.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 5:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeze David, you’re going to be breaking some course records here
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
however, in this variation of mini-golf, shooting 7 strokes under par is a bad thing
by jd21 on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Boo on misspelling sergeant. I’d hate to think what they would have done with colonel
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
And....
While I’m on that topic, Thank You to everyone who has served.
Get rid of the loser point
09-10 Avs- Nowhere to go but up!
by TheRed on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
here here!!
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 11, 2009 10:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At least they fixed...
“Coaches Comments” a couple games ago.
by moltobenny on Nov 11, 2009 10:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A shootout going 3 rounds?
UNHEARD OF
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Nov 11, 2009 10:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who feels like the shootout would be much more gimmicky and exciting if it went 5 rounds instead of 3? It seems like I remember this being a topic of discussion with GM’s a couple years back and it was shot down right away. Why? One argument against the shootout is that it takes the team out of the game… but the more rounds you add, the more the team is back in it, yes?
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They do it in the AHL, and it feels too long to me. If the shootout must stick around..3 (then sudden death) is the best way
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game tonight. I love this team.
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Nov 11, 2009 11:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
4-3? (in the box score) hope the mini golf was fun.
Ryan O'Reilly for the Calder.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 11, 2009 11:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
no idea what you’re talking about (wink wink) and…hi five!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 5:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
(spelling of “hi” in honor of Altitude)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 6:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I put it up as a FanShot, but for those who don’t look over there, here is the link to my radio wrap of the game last night.
Audio includes Hawks Coach Joel Quenneville (because I was covering the Hawks in reality)…and Craig Anderson.
2:45 long…comment and let me know what you think!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fabMrx0eOjA
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 5:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
glad you shared.
excellent stuff. how was the press box experience?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 5:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Much easier than the first time I was up there…once you do it once, you figure things out. Obviously this recap was much better, longer, and more audio filled than my first effort (Hawks/Preds).
They tapped me for the Hawks/Sharks on Sunday as well, so I must be doing something right.
I must admit though, that I did do a bit of silent cheering from the press box, and I was a lot more jittery watching this game than I was the Preds/Hawks game
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 5:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and did you run into AD?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 6:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him a couple of times, but I didn’t get a chance to talk to him. He dwarfs Mike Haynes by the way, I didn’t realize how short he is…or Peter McNabb (who looked lost in the press room, then just left).
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 6:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
or Peter McNabb (who looked lost in the press room, then just left).
Are you sure Arny wasn’t in disguise.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
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R. Frost
by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In this thread we list players that should have been in the Shoot Out before Darcy Tucker.
Never trust the lunch lady.
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 12, 2009 6:16 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Duchene
O’Reilly
Jones
I mean, this is too easy.
The only guys I don’t think should have been in front of Tucker were Adam Foote and Scott Hannan. But that’s about it.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
by Joe Dunman on Nov 12, 2009 6:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not even like DT was having a great game or anything. just a head-scratcher. I wonder if Sacco had a game of mini golf scheduled after the game?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 6:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This mini golf stuff is just getting shameless.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
by Joe Dunman on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Still funny
2009-2010 Avalanche: The memo the experts about sucking sent was lost en route.
by Drakenlot on Nov 12, 2009 7:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
plus, I was actually talking about mini golf
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 7:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed the mini golf thing
can anyone ’splain it to me?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
last week i went mini golfing (actual mini golfing) with a lady friend, it was during the avs/hawks game, i got a little flack from guys like Funk, so i had to inform them that i had some..good times with aforementioned lady friend…hence the term ‘mini golf’
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
So if I wanted to “go with the flow” I could say that I’m going regular golfing and pulling out “Big Bertha” tonight?
Is SDTF OK after last night? I can’t remember anyone, even a red wing troll, ever being so brutalized during a thread. It was so horrific. So I couldn’t resist the urge to pile on.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure he’s fine.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
by Joe Dunman on Nov 12, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t catch the Hjalmarsson from “big bertha”.
Avalanche 2009-2010: We fend off 7 man power plays? Do you?
by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob, STDF is going to Tenn for the release of a mario game..he was jizzing in his space suit last night..
as for pulling out the big berta, make sure to keep the head cover on, i hear Hjalmarsson is a real bitch to get rid of
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
Bubblegum brought it on himself. He called me out after I made a rather benign comment in reply to his a few days back. I questioned the intelligence of making such a move, but he quickly squashed my concern for him by two simple words: bring it. So I did, without mercy, and will continue to do so when he gets back (or maybe even while he is gone!)
Don’t mess with the bull. You’ll get the horns.
2009-2010 Avs: a game away from being up on blocks
by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust Me
Bubblegum was and is doing just fine. Although I was barely paying attention to the GDT, he was having a blast.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
by texacogirl on Nov 12, 2009 5:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I know…we were conversing via FB too. He loves me all the more for the GDT!
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Awesome.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
by texacogirl on Nov 12, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that missed the game entirely
And no, it wasn’t due to mini-golf.
Not that i’d have much rather done that then be at the hospital for surgery.
2009-2010 Avalanche: The memo the 'experts' sent about sucking was lost en route.
by Drakenlot on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope you (or whoever had the surgery) is feeling better and recovering.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Nov 13, 2009 8:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Me 3
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - We really suck, it's just that we didn't get the memo.
by Hopfenkopf on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
4
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 13, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I had envisioned a long stream of posts covering most of the roster, one at a time. This post about sums it up, however.
Never trust the lunch lady.
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on Jones. He’s on a tear lately.
"I know everyone has their own opinion, but your opinion is wrong. "
by Mike @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 7:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Watching Jones was great last night. What a complete player…good skater, strong on both offense and defense. I would love a team full on Jones’
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 7:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
noticed he tried to use the same high backhand on Huet that netted him the shorty against Niemi. didn’t work, however.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 7:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This pleases me. Jones showed flashes last year so I was hoping he would break out! :-)
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Nov 12, 2009 8:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew he was going to be great this year in training camp… if he could stay healthy. Last year he started out so well before injury.
/frantically knocks on wood
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Nov 12, 2009 12:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok it's pretty clear
Sacco got the Hjalmarsson as some point in the 3rd period and that caused him to put Tucker 3rd. Sometimes when you have the Hjalmarsson you hallucinate. I’m pretty sure that is the only plausible solution.
Avalanche 2009-2010: We fend off 7 man power plays? Do you?
by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
The technical term for that is....
Hjalmarssight
by jd21 on Nov 12, 2009 8:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh lord
first jibblekopfed, now this?? what happened to the days of sleeping with someone’s sister/mother/wife/girlfriend?? that was so much easier to type.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve moved up in the world…or down depending on how you look at it.
The 2009-10 Avalanche: It's like having a banana split while all the other kids are getting an ice cream cone.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
This quote got me a little too excited
Said Duchene: “I went through the same thing in (junior), but halfway through the year I just exploded.”
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by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 8:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
He was FLYING last night. Stick handling great, and getting off great shots. Maybe he has too accurate of a shot, hitting iron all the time.
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that’s a comment I hear about my beer league game all the time… I’m just too damn accurate with my shot to lead the team in goals
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ditto. I think it goes without saying that I lead my team in goals
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Duchene had a great game
I can’t believe that inside of the post shot didn’t go in, amazing.
O’Reilly had a bad game. He looked continually behind the play and slow.
Sucks that Quincey’s misplay was the game tying goal. I appreciate how aggressive our D is vs. last year’s and I don’t think it was a bad idea to try for the hold-in, but still, a bummer.
How about Kane’s shot on that first goal, good lord that was awesome.
I agree with DDC, Hensick played well last night — even on D. He looks worlds more comfortable as a RW.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 9:35 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Kane snapped that shot quick. Anderson kind of looked over his shoulder like…“what happened?”
Barker looked good on his goal too…a very forward-esque looking play.
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and I don’t want to get all soapboxish about this, but I can only remember 1 bad game from Hensick this year. every other game, I felt he’d done enough to warrant either more ice time or another game in the lineup.
14:37 of ice time last night, so maybe Sacco is coming around to my way of thinking
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The games he played
Make me think it’s actually his work ethic outside of games that’s the problem.
2009-2010 Avalanche: The memo the experts about sucking sent was lost en route.
by Drakenlot on Nov 12, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
doesn’t hit the bike nearly enough, spends too much time working on his long putts for getting through those windmills
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually had exactly that same thought, Drake
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It just amazes me that the same guy who was a leader on the Monsters team coached by Sacco can ride the pine on a regular basis. Is it possible that he actually had a BETTER attitude when he was with LEM, or is Sacco simply holding him to a higher standard now, which he hasn’t met?
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering why they hadn’t sent him down to work in Lake Erie. The only thing I could figure was that he was showing enough promise to warrant being kept around the guys [chemistry in practice, team spirit, versatility]. He definitely played well enough last night. Not amazingly, but serviceable. I would definitely say better than Hendricks has all season.
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Nov 12, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hensick is in a sticky situation because he would have to clear waivers if we sent him down. I’m assuming, just based on his AHL stats, that there’s SOME team out there that would grab him and give him a chance. You never want to give a guy up for nothing…
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt realize that. thaks.
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Nov 13, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great minds think alike huh?
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by Drakenlot on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that’s one explanation
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
or fools seldom differ ;)
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Andy's Thoughts on the shoot out
"It’s individuals in charge of a team game. If you want to be individuals, go play tennis or golf. We live with it. It’s the rules, we play by them, but my view is you’re putting individuals in charge of a team game."
per AD
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 10:48 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Like I told Jibbles today, when I walked into the locker-room after the game last night a reporter (not AD) was asking him about the game, and he kinda flinged a piece of equipment aside when he got to the shootout part. I remember him talking a bit about it in the first Chicago game, Anderson is NOT a shootout fan
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
horrible thought
if the NHL ever went to shootouts in the playoffs I think I might bail on the league. Wouldn’t that just be beyond suck? Even Bettman isn’t that dumb …. is he?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i’d like to think Garry and his band of dumbasses are smarter then that
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping the fact that they haven’t done it yet means they never well. Bettman has certainly had plenty of chances to put shootouts in the post-season but never has.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
by Joe Dunman on Nov 12, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with Andy on this shootout issue
Win as a team; lose as a team. The points in these tie games matter when it comes to who goes to the playoffs. Sudden death overtime should be the deciding factor.
The fact that the league does not have them in the playoffs and that a goal scored in a shootout isn’t even considered legitimate enough to be counted for a hat trick in a game, speaks to how gimmicky the whole thing is.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So what’s the alternative? Go back to ties? Long overtime games in the regular season too? Can the players handle that? (Not that I disagree with you, I’m just playing devil’s advocate here)
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, back to ties, each team getting a point
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 11:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate ties, and I think many others feel the same way.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Overtime with time limit?
Say, go 10 minutes and if they don’t score, then it’s a tie. No charity point if a team wins in overtime.
My perception is teams are looking for that charity point the last 4-5 minutes of the 3rd period, so they play conservatively. If they know they aren’ t getting it, they will probably take more risks.
This would also elimate those 3 point games.
Ties bug me waaaaayyy less than a loss in a shootout. Just sayin’
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 11:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of five minutes of 4 on 4, then five minutes of 3 on 3. Super exciting, and goals would be more likely.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 11:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad idea
since it would ultimately end up in a shoot out if they keep eliminating one player every 5 minutes ;-)
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I for one like the shootout, but I hate the overtime point. Winner gets points period. If they got rid of that OT point, then the x-x-x score thing would be fixed too. It’s wins and losses, not wins, overtime wins, shootout wins, etc.
But that’s just me.
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What I hate about it
is the team works its ass off through 3 periods and OT, and then it comes down to the goalie and some shooters.
Don’t get me wrong: highly, highly entertaining and nerve- wracking, but weird way to decide a win.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I agree it’s kinda weird. I just like watching them.
And I absolutely love the shoot-out competition at the all-star game. Especially Ovie’s ideas. Hilarious!
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny how much more I supported the shootout last season, when “shootout” was just another way to say “Avs get 2 points!”
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see the regulation wins weighted more in the standings.
3 points for a regulation win
2 points for an OT/shootout win
1 point for an OT/shootout loss
Teams should not be awarded the same for being better at a bastardized version of the game.
I love the shootout, but there’s no way I consider it a legitimate way to determine a win or loss.
by Dixomatic on Nov 12, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I can already HEAR the praise from McNab when the Avs have a 130 point season in the new system…
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This seems to be getting more and more support.
I hate the idea of a team making it to the OT/SO and then getting nothing; only because of the system that used to be with the ties. At least this way you still make winning in regulation a valuable thing.
Winning it OT/SO is still important but not as much as in regulation…the losing team is actually stealing a point, not just being awarded one out of thin air.
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by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i really think goals in shoot outs should count towards your overall totals
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
If they aren’t going to count a shootout goal, then they shouldn’t count a penalty shot goal. A goal is a goal.
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by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a difference, albeit a slight one.
Penalty shot is a rare occurrence based on a penalty that caused the player to not have a legitimate shot at scoring when said player had a one on one chance with the goalie. The penalty shot only recreates that chance.
The shoot out give three players a chance to score one on one with a goalie with out having had to create the chance in the first place.
Not too mention the question, do you count each goal scored (IE last season you would have had to increase Wolski’s goal totals by what 10 or more?), or just the game winner? Would those goals count towards the Calder race, the scoring race, the Rocket trophy, etc.
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by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
for inherent truth
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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 12, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Andy, and disagree with myself for agreeing with him.
Yes, it is a team game, and shouldn’t be in charge of the individuals just for the sake of not having ties and not having regular season games go on for five hours. I agree!
But then I must disagree with my agreement, just because I was at the previous ‘Hawks game, and that was the first shootout I’d ever seen live, and darned if it wasn’t the most exciting friggin’ thing I’d ever been witness to.
I guess I will put shootouts, for me, under the title “secret, guilty pleasure”, although now that I just posted about it, I guess remove the “secret”.
by moltobenny on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chicken or egg...
Is Anderson weak in shoot out saves because he hates shootouts…or does he hate shootouts because he’s weak in shoot out saves?
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
was thinking the same thing…. sounds like crying over spilt milk to me……
by jd21 on Nov 12, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hope it's the latter
If he plays weak in shoot-outs because he hates them he comes across as a petty, whiny person he doesn’t try at things he hates and thats pretty weak for a professional athlete, or anyone really. If he hates them because he’s not good at them then it shows him more as someone who hates things he’s not good at which is understandable. Thats just my take, and I’m aware it might be slightly confusing, thats just how I roll.
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pickin up what you’re layin down. And I agree completely.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 13, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jibblescribbits 1
thedoctor 0
NHL endorsements of my point of view that is.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you mean “winning”
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
there’s no doubt the shootout is not as satisfying a win. but that’s better than no satisfaction.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
fine a Coin Flip to determine the winner
Wait, that’s the NFL system.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 12:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
zing.
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by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, hear me out. you’ve got your 10 points for a win, 2 points for a loss. you’ve got your bonus points for shorty goals, lose a point per double minor. Tie games go into “bonus rounds” 2 minutes long, alternating between 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 6v6, goalie v goalie, and finally decided by a trump vote coming from the mother in law of the captain of whichever team is geographically farthest away from the game currently being played. point distributions in the “trump” case would be decided by the simple formula of p (points) = 5x^2 – 3y + zE-4, x being the “intensity factor” decided by the replay judges in Toronto, y being decided by the number of fights lost by each team in the season, and z is the average attendance of each team’s arena. BAM I just solved the NHL’s problems. All of them. Including the RBK jerseys
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a headache.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 12, 2009 1:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s so obvious! Someone call Bettman.
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by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We need a flowchart with this centerice
ala the “Suspension” one.
Brilliant!
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by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was drawing one up but I felt the universe start to implode on itself, so I figured it would be best if I stopped…
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a rookie mistake, and you hate to see it
You feel the universe implode you just keep right on going with your birthday party flowchart.
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My head hurts
The Savage is confused.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Infinite wisdom my ass.
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by Americanario on Nov 13, 2009 8:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Even my infinite wisdom has limits. You can’t just throw words and letters out there and expect the Great One to understand.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 6:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
true, The Great One might get confused by that. But then he’s a retired hockey player so he gets a pass.
you on the other hand claim to be this magnificent ruler of the universe…pfffft. i’m so disappointed. there goes my freaking cult. weak.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 13, 2009 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Snap.
Everyone knows I’m the true Great One. It’s tough to be magnificent ruler of the universe and I don’t need my minions throwing random words and letters at me while I’m trying to get stuff out of my jewel encrusted man bag and planning universal domination(Take that Brain)
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by Savage33 on Nov 14, 2009 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
epic long post inc
most OT systems are competitively crap, or suffer from “changing the game”:
the NHL’s does not encompass the entire game, in fact, it’s a very tiny portion of it.
the NFL’s is weighted towards a coin flip winner to a ridiculous degree.
Soccer suffers the same issues as the NHL, though they at least do OT longer.
NCAA football has a limited portion of the game in their OT, albeit a far less limited portion compared to the NHL/Soccer.
2 work:
MLB’s extra innings for as long as it takes. This has the problem the NHL refuses to even dance towards: it causes the next game on the schedule to potentially be crap. a long extra innings bout can really screw up a team.
Basketball is in a unique position with how much scoring there is. They can continue the complete game in very small spurts and odds are on their side that they won’t have the MLB’s uber long game problem.
There’s really no point to me pointing out other sport’s OTs except that the NHL is far from alone in having issues. only the NBA is really exempt from them. I actually much prefer the NHL’s shootout to the NFL’s OT — at least there’s no competitive imbalance based on a coin toss. it’s still in the hands of the players, if only to some small degree.
The major problem the NHL has vs. other sports is how frequently games go to the SO. last year 282 games went to OT/SO (out of 1230). there’s really nothing to be done about how many games go to OT/SO, that’s inherent to the sport. basketball, MLB, football all have it easier in terms of their crap in OT being less magnified; all of their rates for going to OT are lower.
Anyways, of those 282, only 123 were resolved in OT. that’s 43.6%. THAT’S the unacceptable part. Everyone knows the SO is “less satisfying” or a “gimmick” to some degree, that it’s not the complete game of hockey. We need to limit the amount of games that go to the SO.
A large reason why so many games end in the SO is because of how short the OT period is. 5 min? that’s not even 10% of a normal game! other sports that want to cap how long games go do way more — NFL is 15 min (25%), soccer is 30 min (33%)!
I’m not a stats guy, but if we take project those stats to a 10 min OT period, that takes us to… 123 + (282-123) * 43.6% = ~68% of games ending before the shootout. and if we did 20 min, a full extra period and equating how long soccer games are extended percentage wise, that number jumps to almost 90%!
bottom line for me is that 4v4 OT needs to go much, much longer. then the SO becomes far less of an issue. and take away the OT charity point!
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
I think we both agreed that the NHL would do a ton better to go to a 10min OT (4vs4), and actually call penalties during it. Regardless of SOs or not.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d. The longer OT is a good idea, and that stat about the number of teams going to SO is interesting. I didn’t know it was so many.
Man do I hate the NFL OT. What a joke! Why even bother playing an OT at all?
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
true, college football has a much better OT scheme, and I HATE college football
by Uziel on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
college football get something right? whoa..whoooaa..
head explosion
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
College football is better than NFL, but still sucks.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
now if only the BCS made any grain of sense
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by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points all
A few more not necessarily as good ones:
The major problem the NHL has vs. other sports is how frequently games go to the SO. last year 282 games went to OT/SO (out of 1230). there’s really nothing to be done about how many games go to OT/SO, that’s inherent to the sport.
I wonder if more games are going to OT/SO because teams are playing more conservative near the end of a tied game, knowing they’ll at least get a point? Therefore, I wonder if removing the loser point would help here?
bottom line for me is that 4v4 OT needs to go much, much longer. then the SO becomes far less of an issue. and take away the OT charity point!
Agree here totally. Actually, I’d go with a 10-minute 4-on-4 and if it is still tied, call it a tie and each team gets a point. Go back to every game being worth 2 points.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if more games are going to OT/SO because teams are playing more conservative near the end of a tied game, knowing they’ll at least get a point? Therefore, I wonder if removing the loser point would help here?
only if they remove it entirely. if you leave it there for the SO, or put ties back in, you’ll still get that playing for the point crap.
Agree here totally. Actually, I’d go with a 10-minute 4-on-4 and if it is still tied, call it a tie and each team gets a point. Go back to every game being worth 2 points.
I really hate ties. I’d prefer the SO be kept. Like I said, there’s at least SOME satisfaction for the fans.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a quick point about the ‘soccer’. Mostly, it isn’t used. The draw is seen as a perfectly acceptable result, which in general it is.
The time issues (when a game kicks off at 7.45pm, you can’t play 120 mins + possible penalty shootout) coupled with the fatigue mean that extra time is not used in the league. It is only used in knock-out competitions, where there has to be a winner to progress to the next round. In fact, a draw in the FA cup means the game will actually be replayed (only once mind, then it goes to extra time).
I don’t really understand the North American dislike for the ‘tie’ or ‘draw’. If two teams are level then so be it, why does there have to be a winner at all? I’ve watched many matches end in draws, some have been among the best I have watched. A tie does not mean that the game has been dull.
One reason why the NHL OT can be shorter than that in soccer is that goals are far more common in hockey than soccer. GAA in the NHL must be around 3, perhaps a shade under. If my soccer team scores 3, I’m happy for the week. Though I do agree, 5 mins is a bit short. 10 would be more reasonable.
by pingu on Nov 12, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The draw is seen as a perfectly acceptable result, which in general it is.
guess this is why we’ve had to come over to win the last couple world wars.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You should coach T-ball. Nobody wins or loses, we don’t keep score, and everyone gets to bat.
:-)
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
jk about that last :)
in all seriousness, sports is about winning and losing. I find no excitement or satisfaction in a tie. Why did we even start the game if there was going to be no resolution?
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see nothing wrong with saying “Today we were equals”. Sometimes teams are equal on a given day.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should just give the team with the highest shooting % the win. It would work great for us!
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by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we've been round this before
but I flat disagree. sports is about winning and losing, that’s what makes it exciting and worth caring about.
ties are like russian roulette with no bullet.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ties are like russian roulette with no bullet.
I’d describe the shootout that way since no one loses.
And they are about winning and losing, at the game they are playing. We might as well decide the game with a chess match, and Don Cherry would hate that because even more Russians would play.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d describe the shootout that way since no one loses.
How can no one lose when there’s a winner amongst 2 parties? Your attempt to subvert my analogy == fail. :)
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Loser gets a point, so he doesn’t actually lose. Did anyone feel all that bad about last night around here (other than Andy) ?
See One wins, no one loses.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 3:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
so you don’t think we lost last night, despite getting less points than the other team? your definition is of losing is only if you completely lose?
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always said
We lost, but it was in the shootout, so at least we still go up in the standings. This is just retarded to me, to be able to advance by losing, even if you don’t advance as much.
Get rid of the loser point
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by TheRed on Nov 12, 2009 3:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it is indeed silly, but it’s still losing. just less of losing.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 3:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
not at all. I never loot at OT “losses” as losses. Would we have lost in the playoffs when it matter? Nope. whatever the heel it is (it’s not a win, it’s not a tie) It’s certainly not a loss. Columbus lost, they didn’t get anything.
Losers get nothing, ask the Red wings, they didn’t even get a handhsake. If you get something for losing, you didn’t lose, especially if there’s only 2 participants.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
haha. ok, guess we have a fundamental difference in what what losing in defined as. no grey area in your definition, eh?
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 6:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s grey, and that’s clearly where a SO loss goes. I agree they lost the shootout, but if the Shootout were hockey Rob Shremp would be a superstar.
It’s not hockey, the Avs play hockey, therefore they don’t lose a hockey game if they lose a shootout.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 6:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
First off, lol.
But I don’t think you can view the result of a sporting contest as the be-all and end-all.
Sports don’t come into existence merely to generate a winner, they start off as games, and progress from there into competition. Granted, if there was never a winner, sport would be very tedious viewing. And in a knock-out competition, there evidently needs to be a result.
But… let’s not forget the long-term. What gives better satisfaction, a year long drive for the cup (2001 an excellent example) or an extra point for a team who hit less posts in the shootout?
Sport, to me, is about the contest between one team and the other, between one player and the next. That is where the excitement is generated. Flipping a coin 10 times to see who gets the most heads will generate a winner (you might need ‘OT flips’!) but it’s pretty dull viewing. On the other hand, seeing two teams go hard at each other for 60 mins, 80 mins, 90 mins (or 5 days in cricket!) gives that excitement, the subtle shifts in momentum and all of the other things that makes sport a fun thing to do/watch.
The desire and the fight to win gives the drama, the emotion, the passion. Not the win itself.
by pingu on Nov 12, 2009 3:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
cricket
The only team sport on the planet that makes baseball look exciting. Imo.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The only team sport on the planet that makes baseball look simple.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
IF you've never played it
when you understand how difficult it is, and how good they are at it, then it’s infinitely more interesting.
by TMB on Nov 12, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand how difficult it is, and how good they are at it.
It’s still boring as sin
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends, Tests can get boring but One Dayers and 20/20s are exciting. Personally I only enjoy playing If I’m keeping, much like I only enjoy Baseball if I’m catcher. I have a short attention span.
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well said
but i don’t think it works well to have one (the excitement of the competition itself) without the other (winning/losing).
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 3:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, there has to be the possibility of a win. But I don’t (personally at least) see why that means there must be no tie. It adds something extra if anything – can one team break the other down for that extra point or will they have to settle for just 1 etc etc. I think it would work better with a 3 point win, 1 point for a tie though. Gives a bit of extra emphasis on not just sitting back and taking the point.
Nothing makes baseball exciting. But I think you have to understand cricket to appreciate it. It’s all about the little battles, combining together over an extended period of time.
by pingu on Nov 12, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the excitement is in the possibility of winning or losing. That’s why the Shootout is so anti-climactic: There’s no possibility of losing.
That’s why Penalty shots are 100x more exciting than the shootout, because you can actually lose.
The solution is to make 0 points for a shootout loss and 2 for a shootout win. But that would be ludicrous., and everyone knows it. And why is it ludicrous, because it’s not really a loss.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 12, 2009 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Say, go 10 minutes and if they don’t score, then it’s a tie. No charity point.
My perception is teams are looking for that charity point the last 4-5 minutes of the 3rd period, so they play conservatively. If they know they aren’ t getting it, they will probably take more risks.
What I posted above.
I agree with your statements BiB – longer overtime, no charity point.
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by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So.....
They’re releasing the new 3rd jersey’s today, right? When? Where? I wanna see ’em!
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by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 12:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been wondering that too. What time’s the press conference?
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well, for some reason I can’t find the Dater article that says 2:30, but it’s 2:30.
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
of course… right after I posted, I found this. http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_13767755
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hot Pocket - injured or not
better be there sporting one. It will look stunning with his blue eyes.
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by hockeymom on Nov 12, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
/drool
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 1:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
According to what I read yesterday, Stats and Hejduk will be the models
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
According to what i read 43 seconds ago, I concur.
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by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a pretty smart-ass comment from somebody with too many question marks in their signature
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well now i need to consider changing it.
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by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He really needs to lose the first ?. is us fending off 7 man power plays a question or a statement,
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by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
How about JML and Wolski and the two girls from that pic they were in?
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be nice…very nice.
Here is the official word:
Hejduk and Paul Stastny will model the new sweaters, which are expected to have a dominant royal blue color, unlike the previous all-burgundy ones.
by chiavsfan on Nov 12, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I do hope the color doesn’t say avalanche on it like that leaked photo.
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by c6hor8 on Nov 12, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit Beachie, now I have to mop the floor. Go drool over the sink, jeez!
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by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
blame hot pocket. he’s the one who’s so damn drool-worthy
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Learn some self control woman! ;)
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by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
self control is overrated.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 12, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yet never try to use that defense in court.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
when they showed that clip of Liles wishing everyone a happy Veteran’s Day, including his brother in the Navy, my wife quickly chimed in with “shouldn’t they show a picture of his brother in uniform?”
she and Beachie would probably get along well with each other
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was pretty cool myself.
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So, is there a video feed for the new 3rd jersey unveiling?
And are we going to live blog it. And do I need a life?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
and I wondered why they tried to block me at work…
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve spent the last 4 hours frantically looking for something…. and they pay me to do this!
by centreice on Nov 12, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I dunno. It’s not on Altitude (Nuggets replay), or any of the local news channels. Sigh…
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's UP!
Go to the official site.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i think i need to see it in person before i throw down on it
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the jersey, the Avs marketing department, not so much. I can’t even see the picture anymore.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I saw what doc posted below once. Only once. I suppose if I deleted by browsing history …..
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s weird. I do like them though.
by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What? Where? Not seeing anything?
The 2009-10 Avalanche: It's like having a banana split while all the other kids are getting an ice cream cone.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just when you first go on, right?
No vids or other pics yet … or even a story?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why in the world can’t they come up with something that’s actually original? gah. there are so many concepts i could find that blow this one out of the water.
by Uziel on Nov 12, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the green and white CO license plate one that someone (probably pinchy?) came up with was pretty cool.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why not just take the nords sweaters out of the closet…so what if they smell like mothballs
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we don’t own the rights to that logo. the NHL retains it.
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
shit…well fuck it! lets buy it!!
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
how do you get their little legs far apart enough to smell?
by jd21 on Nov 12, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That reminds me
How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Two, but I don’t know how they got in there.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 7:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Because that would make RBk do some work. it’s much easier to change colours than change design. When you’re a big corporation planning world domination one crappy jersey at a time you can’t waste seconds on pesky things like Jersey designs
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
by Savage33 on Nov 13, 2009 2:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The very first thing I thought was…. “better than the unipron”.
Yeah, it’s not very original, and seems a lot like our old thirds, which I couldn’t stand, but it’s soooo much better than the alternative.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the different color and the tie down. Not so sure about the sleeve striping.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely the worst part. black? huh?
by thedoctor on Nov 12, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m wondering if the same pattern is on the bottom of the jersey…
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Nov 12, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
if it is..im buying it
Make Me A Milkshake, Malkin! - Mike Lange
by horbayj on Nov 12, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - We really suck, it's just that we didn't get the memo.
by Hopfenkopf on Nov 12, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of Rangers’ jerseys. That’s not a good thing …
by Osirius on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
starting a new thread for the jersey
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
rickroll, Bob? really?
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I misguided my anger at the lack of Av media on the nice members of MHH. Or I was just trying to be funny. Man, I hated that song and that singer. With a passion.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 12, 2009 3:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
better image
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 12, 2009 3:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Craig Andersen
Just my two cents but the Avs should have won this game 2-0. Although Andy has been the Rock of Gibraltar for the Avs so far this season, he gave up two goals in regulation he should have stopped. Why with a shooter so close did he decide to drop to one knee and open up the top shelf for Toews and Barker??? Duchene hit two post and Wolski wiffed on the shoot out when he faked the goalie out of position. Avs should have gotten two points from this gamewithout overtime or the shootout.
by LTC Pain on Nov 13, 2009 7:52 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
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