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How to take the Avs from playoffs, to Cup in one year.

Just a note for everybody, this would be my first post ever on the MHH.

First, Joe Sacco and the coaching staff has done the most amazing job with what they have been given. Nobody expected them to win as much as they have, and most hockey "experts" don't think they have what it takes to make any kind of run come March. But I think with one or two key "tweaks" to personnel this team has a legitimate shot at making a deep run in the playoffs.

First, the team needs to address its issues on the defensive end of things. Brett Clark and Tom Preissing are consistently showing up on film whenever bad goals have been scored against the Avs. This however doesn't mean that i think they aren't talented players, but they would be much better suited for a team more conservatively minded defensively. Both Clark and Preissing are both too weak on the puck to be legitimate puck moving defensemen. They both have problems getting takeaways, and they don't pass well enough to consider them "skill" defensemen. Considering their moderate salaries i would look to deal both of them in a package for a Brooks Orpik type of hard hitting defenseman. Salei would also work in this spot, but at his advanced age i'm not sure his body will hold up. Somebody that can throw big hits in a game like Scott Stevens used to do for the Devils would take a lot of pressure off of Adam Foote

So the Defense should look like this:

Hannah, Quincy (both are playing very well)

Cumiskey, Foote (Another solid combo)

Liles, New D/Salei (Great if Salei will throw the body, but at his age it might be too much for him)

Scratched: Wilson (playing too well to send down)

Now with the defense set the next order of business is to address the offense. Currently the lines have been shuffled around so much its tough to tell who's playing with who. But the gist that i get from this is that the Avs are in need of one good Power Forward type of player, assuming Galliardi picks up where he left off. David Jones is making a case to stay up with the club but i don't think he's a first line player quite yet. Moving Svatos has to be considered an option seeing as how he hasn't developed any chemistry with any of the top 6 forwards. If thats the case i think he could be delt for an experienced hard hitting forward. Someone like Erik Cole would be a good fit for the team. It would provide more leadership in the forward group and add a player with a cup under his belt. Without knowing how the lines are going to play out here's how i see the forwards:

Top 6: Wolski, Stastny, Hejduk, Duchene, Galliardi, (New Fwd/currently Svatos)

Bottom 6: Tucker, Radar, Stewart, The Highlander, Jones, Koci

Scratched: Hendricks and Hensick (the chicken club)

With this lineup the last thing i would change would be to give it some scary toughness. A guy like Boogard or Parros instead of Koci would really help straighten out the Sean Avery's of the league. As it is right now, Duchene is taking way too many elbows up high. Watching Koci jump on the ice to fight is a nice show, but realistically opposing teams aren't actually afraid of fighting him. Avs need a player who can beat people up. Moving Dupuis and a mid round draft pick should get a good tough guy at the deadline from a team that is selling. 

All this may be a moot point if Lacroix isn't trying to win now, but in Pierre we trust.

PS. Bring back Joe Sakic as a "shot coach"

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If Wilson is playing “too well to be sent down” why not plug him into the line-up, instead of sitting him in the press box?

by chiavsfan on Nov 19, 2009 7:54 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Agree here. He’s been better than both Clark and Preissing (although Clark had a decent game the other night). He should not be sitting.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson has to play

He, Quincey, and Cumiskey have been by far the Avs best D-men this year, with Liles and Hannan not far behind.

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by wtnelson on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I would honestly say that the best this year so far is Hannan – he plays on the 1st pairing with Quincey yet has a scoring chance +/- of -1 through (ie he has had 1 more scoring chance against than for through 20 games), Quincey is -12, Cumiskey with weaker minutes has -3.

Liles has been absolutely terrible at even strength this year – surrendering 33 more scoring chances than he generates in 10 games played or 1 net scoring chance against per 3.9 minutes (Hannan produces 1 every 380.3 minutes, Quincey every 30 minutes, Cumiskey every 96.6 minutes, Foote every 34 minutes and Clark every 20.4 minutes). Hopefully Liles improves when he gets back – but he is terrible at even strength at the moment.

by HugoAgogo on Nov 19, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree

Liles, for his work on the PP, grades out pretty well, in my opinion.

Hannan, though, is a guy that I’ve always liked. He’s somebody that I’ve always thought needs a goaltender behind him. He is what he is, as they say. He goes into CYA mode for his teammates when they don’t do their job. Now that he’s with a guy that is pretty steady, he does well.

I think that’s the biggest difference from last year. He was with Liles, who I don’t think is great in his own zone. Not bad, just not great. The few times that Hannan and Foote were paired together last season, Hannan was the Avs best player.

All that said, Wilson still needs to play, and Cumiskey has shown why they’ve been so patient with him. Both need to be in the lineup every night.

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by wtnelson on Nov 19, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So basically – what you are saying is sit Clark…

by HugoAgogo on Nov 20, 2009 3:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Correct. He is the odd man out.

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by wtnelson on Nov 21, 2009 3:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Scratched: Hendricks and Hensick (the chicken club)

Hensick okay, but Hendricks?? I’ve never seen that guy back down from a fight and is often throwing monster checks that get him into them in the first place. He’s starting to learn when those fights are good momentum-builders and when they’re just dumb penalties. I don’t see how he can be called a chicken.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 19, 2009 10:00 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Because his name starts with “Hen”?

Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.

by Rather Dashing on Nov 19, 2009 1:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe, but that’s pretty weak, ya know?

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 19, 2009 5:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thoughts

Especially agree with the need for an enforcer.

Don’t think Radar belongs in the second tier of forwards, though. He’s fourth in points (After SoS, Wolski, and The Duke) and has the best /- on the team (9).

by Ace O'Dale on Nov 19, 2009 2:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think Radar is in the second tier because he is the third line center. Could he be a top 6 guy and play on the second line? Probably, but in the current rotation, he’s going to stay on the third line which is that bottom 6.
It looks more like a placement issue, not an actual skill issue.

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by Americanario on Nov 19, 2009 3:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Preissing

The only two games he played so far are two games the Avs played the most horrible defensively, no contest. If the Avs aren’t going anywhere or he’s signed to a long contract, I’d be willing to be patient and let him play his way back to some kind of form. But since he’s not part of our future in any way, we have Ds who are playing much better than him and some great talent down the pipe, I say we waive his ass (unless some desperate team is willing to give up stuff for him). His “offensive skills” are useless if he chokes up boatloads of goals in the other end.

We still haven’t replaced Rob Blake. A point shot is what we desperately need, and Quincey doesn’t really count. I’m not really sure who we could get though.

I’m not too sure about Cole, but I do think it’s the right kind of move to make. Cole hasn’t been the same players since his injury troubles.

I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.

by Shoeshiner on Nov 19, 2009 6:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and totally agree about the enforcer. Someone like Laraque would be ideal, but I doubt we’d ever get someone like that.

I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.

by Shoeshiner on Nov 19, 2009 6:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The only two games he played so far are two games the Avs played the most horrible defensively, no contest.

I wonder if this was because Preissing was on the ice.

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by Drakenlot on Nov 19, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s bad logic on my part, but he’s also -5 in two games (-4 vs. Van, -1 vs. Edm), so while it’s not all his fault, he certainly played a pretty significant part.

I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.

by Shoeshiner on Nov 19, 2009 9:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cole

I do agree that Cole is injury prone, but getting him may be the right price for the Avs. However, this is contingent on Carolina falling apart and going into rebuilding mode. Carolina loved Cole so much, that after they got rid of him to Edmonton, then turned around and swung a three way deal with la just to get him back.

The one thing that i love about Cole is that he doesn’t back down physically or mentally late in games. During the Toronto game he stepped it up and went for a big open ice hit late in the game. Then to top it off he scored with under 1 minute to go to tie the game. While he may be in and out of the lineup, i like the passion he plays with. It reminds me of Adam Foote in a lot of ways. On a young team like the Avs, i think a big physical forward that has leadership ability would be instrumental for them. I think Cole is, in a word, “clutch”.

by San Diego Avs Fan on Nov 22, 2009 1:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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