Briere Cheap Shot on Hannan - A Poll

by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 10:29 AM MST Comment 92 comments

Let's first catalog the depth of the uncalled infraction:

- Well after the puck had left Hannan's stick.

- After play was dead due to the goal.

- Left his feet.

- Deliberate cross check to the neck/face.

- Resulted in an injury to Hannan.

Sounds like no penalty to me! As I've posted already, imo, it should have been a 5-minute major and a game misconduct. Add to the above facts that it wasn't ~~the little prick's~~ Briere's first offense, you would think a suspension would be in order. So here's a little unbiased poll.

Poll

Given the severity of the cheap shot by Daniel Briere on Scott Hannan last night, what do you think Briere deserves in terms of a suspension (not what do you think the NHL Front Office will actually give him).

At least 4 games.

102 votes

At least 10 games.

22 votes

The rest of the season.

3 votes

Lifetime ban and he should be publicly stoned to death by Av fans.

78 votes

205 votes | Poll has closed

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If I answer this poll

then where does that leave me with the Wilson hit in the Vancouver game? He wasn’t suspended. I personally thought that was a bad hit.

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by hockeymom on Nov 24, 2009 10:35 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I just don’t see the Wilson hit as dirty… Let the lashings begin.

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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 24, 2009 11:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

For the record

I didn’t see Wilson’s hit as dirty, just unnecessarily dangerous

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 24, 2009 11:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly. and if the NHL is serious about all this business, one game for unnecessarily dangerous is reasonable.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 25, 2009 8:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

There are dirty hits and there are stupid hits, wilsons was stupid. (there’s also dirty, stupid hits, but I’m not going to do a venn diagram).

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 25, 2009 9:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I will though

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by Drakenlot on Nov 25, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs

Before I saw the username I could have sworn it would be jibbles’

Get rid of the loser point

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by TheRed on Nov 25, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and rec’d

Get rid of the loser point

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by TheRed on Nov 25, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish I would have come up with this… awesome.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 25, 2009 11:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

what about under 4 games? you should have it in there at least.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 10:45 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I agree. 2 games would’ve been fine

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by Tommelot on Nov 24, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

Never entered my unbiased mind.

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

I might answer this poll

If there was a video link to the cheap shot.

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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 24, 2009 10:47 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

If you dig around at www.nhl.com on the video replays you can watch the hannan goal. the hit happens at least 2-3 seconds after the goal (which is about 4-5 seconds after it left his stick.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Here. Go about 3:30 in. Pretty good view of it.

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by smoky201 on Nov 24, 2009 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the link!

I don’t think it was that dirty. It was less than 2 seconds after the shot, and Briere I think had to leave his feet like that just to get a decent hit on a guy that’s way bigger than him.

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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 24, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Probably the same thing he does when he wants to kiss one of them.

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by hockeymom on Nov 24, 2009 4:22 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

So here’s a little unbiased poll.

as unbiased as an amplifier!

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by Tommelot on Nov 24, 2009 10:54 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

One that goes to 11?

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

oh man, nerd humor!

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I jokingly did the last one cuz I liked the stoning idea. But really, I think he should have gotten the 5 min major and game misconduct, as Wilson should have too. One game suspension would be acceptable too (for both of them). Maybe 2. 4? way too many.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 10:58 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

A few things

The way things currently work, 2 would probably be about right. If the league were serious about cleaning up the game, especially eliminating head shots, then 2 should be considered an absolute joke.

I honestly didn’t think the Wilson hit was as bad. At least it was more in the context of the game. What Briere did was about as gutless and cheap as they come.

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to agree some what with BiB. Wilson’s hit was not that bad in the scheme of the game. The hit was made with the shoulder and was worse because of the head down of the receiving player. The leaving of his skates looked to me to be the result of momentum and not Wilson trying to go for the head. I do not believe that there was any intent on Wilson’s part to injury the Oiler player, That said, if the league had decided to give him a suspension, I would have been upset about it, but not overly.

In this case, Briere hit Hannan after the play was over. It was not in the context of the game. The only reason to cross check a guy in the head/neck after the play is because you are pissed off and retaliating with the intent to hurt a guy. It was a cheap shot of the lowest form. He should have received a penalty during the game and should receive a suspension of at least 4 games. I don’t think he has a history, but if he does it should be longer.

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by Americanario on Nov 24, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The only reason I’d see fit to give Wilson a one-game suspension was the recklessness of it. No, he didn’t try to injure the guy. But he was doing what young guys do and got carried away.

Looking back at Briere’s hit, I agree that it is definitely a suspendable hit. I still think 2 games is sufficient tho. Although the hit came after the goal and he definitely had time to stop, it was still only a few seconds later. Had it been 10 seconds, I’d be more inclined to do a 5-gamer.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Did anyone see Mark Rycroft after the game?

He was hilarious. He said, “This is what upsets me. I can’t stand it when a little rat guy like Briere makes a dirty hit like this.”

And a jump cross-check to the head is 5 games, in my mind. Wilson should have gotten 3. At least his hit was in the context of the game. The “little rat guy” waited until well after the play was over, and he used his stick.

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by wtnelson on Nov 24, 2009 11:29 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I will never refer to this ‘Briere’ guy again, he has been reborn as ‘Little Rat Guy.’

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn’t much of a fan of Rycroft before this. It wasn’t that I disliked him … I just thought he was “meh”. But after this comment, I was laughing pretty hard. But maybe he’s just picking from the Don Cherry book of hockey commentary.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 24, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of minor Avalanche players…. can anyone tell me the name of the guy we picked up at the deadline a few years ago? He was a gritty-type forward, the day we picked him up was also the day we had a game against his former team… umm… I think he went to the Devils the next year? Argh. Total brain fart.

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by Rather Dashing on Nov 24, 2009 4:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Nycholet?

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by hockeymom on Nov 24, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Delete this - that was last year not a few years ago

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by hockeymom on Nov 24, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Bob Boughner? Darby Hendrickson? Need a little more info…

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Jim Dowd.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

YES! Jim Dowd is who I was thinking of. Sorry, I would have given more information if I remembered any. Oh Jimmy Dowd. Always liked that guy for some reason.

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by Rather Dashing on Nov 24, 2009 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I seem to remember a good playoff performance against the stars.

by pingu on Nov 25, 2009 9:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps this name should go into the Glossary?

Sandie

by sandiegee on Nov 24, 2009 5:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Video replay of Briere's act of douchery

Altitude actually had a better one later in the game, but I haven’t found that one. Here is one I’ve found.

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 11:29 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

briere

sucks donkey dick, he did this shit a couple days ago too and i cant remember against who….then last night Marc Savard after a penalty was called on a high stick on barret jackman, as he is going to the box high sticks jackman again…wtf? are the league wide pussies really itching for a beatdown?

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by DESTROYER on Nov 24, 2009 11:37 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I’d be happy to throw the first stone. But maybe that is just me.

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 11:38 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I have no sin, let me do it.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Call the Zoo!

Let’s get some monkeys to fling bertuzzi at him

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by smoky201 on Nov 24, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Kinda reminds me of the Gary Suter hit that gave Paul Kariya a concussion and arguably ruined his game forever.

There’s no place for cheap shit like that in the game. I always knew Briere was a little bitch, but never realized he was a cheap and dirty little bitch.

This is the NHL, not the WWF. If the league cares about its players, they need to start making examples of these things. There was definite intent to injure, and with a flying cross-check like that, he coulda killed Hannan. 2 games is not enough, the amount of money he would lose is pocket change compared to his multi-million dollar contract.

by Jimmy_the_scumbag on Nov 24, 2009 11:47 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

The league needs to decide what it wants to do, either control the players and get rid of the cheap stuff or let the players police themselves.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

absolutely right.

i vote for players police themselves. it will never happen.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

don’t we actually have to send someone after him to “police” this kind of action.

we don’t play the fly-her’s again all season.

Andy get’s run and nothing happens game after game.

He actually “sticks” up for himself more than the team does.

WTF?

by Ben from Portland on Nov 24, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

i’m curious about what (if anything) lappy had to say about that hit.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

what’s the french for “play like a man you dirty punk” ?

by Ben from Portland on Nov 24, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Can’t be translated. Concept doesn’t exist in modern French. I think it died with Charlemagne.

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 24, 2009 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

This contains profanities...

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by sandiegee on Nov 24, 2009 5:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

per dater

The captain, Adam Foote, will return tomorrow against Nashville. Scott Hannan didn’t practice, but coach Sacco said it was just to give him some rest and that he felt good today and could play tomorrow.
Anderson will be in net.

by Ben from Portland on Nov 24, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Rec'd

The NHL says they’re serious, but I"m not seeing it from the refs. Crap like this should get players automatically booted from the game with a game misconduct. Remember back in the day when players were given game misconduct penalties for their own safety? Ah, the good ole days…

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by AvDog on Nov 24, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Here’s the best screen capture I could get:

Its kinda crappy, but you can see the goal had alrady gone in (Emery is looking behind him), LRG (Little Rat Guy) has his stick in Hannan’s face, LRG has started to leave the ice.

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by smoky201 on Nov 24, 2009 1:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

The only issue I have

is that in the nhl.com’s replay I only really see one skate come up. I know altitude played a replay during the game that made it more obvious, but unless there is a clear indication that both feet left the ice “prior” to stick on neck contact, there won’t be a suspension. Hopefully we can find another angle.

However, while writing this i noticed something else. If you watch the play, once LRG comes into your screen, Hannan is about to fire. LRG never looks at the net. Part of the NHL’s supposed standard is hits in the course of play. Since LRG is oblivious to the play going on, he seems to be focused just on going after Hannan. Unlike Wilson’s hit, like was posted above, LRG’s obliviousness to the play might help getting him suspended.

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by c6hor8 on Nov 24, 2009 1:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

And unlike Wilson’s hit, LRG is leading with his stick because he knows a body-to-body shot would leave him on the IR with bruised ovaries.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 24, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

Thanks for the promo MHH! And so far, nobody has voted for less than 4 games. I hope the NHL takes a look at this and at least considers having him stoned to death.

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 2:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I have a bunch of rocks with smiley faces reserved for just such an occasion….

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Nov 24, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

From Darren Dreger’s twitter:

@DarrenDreger: Briere suspended for 2 games for his hit last night on Scott Hannan

by AndiRose on Nov 24, 2009 2:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks andirose… since dater seems to be getting back onto twitter, lets see how long he takes to retweet it.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Nov 24, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

But no word on the stoning?

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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 24, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

damn.

i was looking forward to that.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Andrew Raycroft has volunteered.

But I think he misunderstood….

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 24, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

if that’s true, it has to be one of the quickest suspensions handed down in a while. not a lot of discussion had to take place. that says a lot about the hit right there.

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s pretty clear it should be a suspension, that the NHL brass saw it that way so quickly is a very surprising. I honestly didn’t expect to hear anything till tomorrow.
2 games is not long enough IMHO, but maybe the league is finally starting to wake up on these types of cheap shots.

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by Americanario on Nov 24, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

that’s about right.

though, i still like my idea of adding a clause to any suspension: if you injured a player and were suspended for it, you must sit out as long as they do.

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That's an awesome idea.

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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Nov 24, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

good idea, but Hannan may play tomorrow (per Dater). Foote back.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 24, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

it’s sort of an or proposition: (length of suspension) || (length of injury) . Briere would sit out either way for the next 2 games, beyond that it’s about whether the player he hurt is still out.

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

my favorite part:

Bertuzzi still wouldn’t be playing.

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 3:22 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 4:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Bertuzzi still wouldn’t be playing…EVER

fixed.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 24, 2009 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I've always thought this was a good idea

The problem is in implementing it so that it’s not taken advantage of.

Get rid of the loser point

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by TheRed on Nov 24, 2009 4:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, something tells me that if T.J. Hensick were injured by Jerome Iginla in a playoff series, T.J.’s injury would be “severe” until the series was over.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 24, 2009 4:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly what I mean. I still think in principle its a great idea

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by TheRed on Nov 24, 2009 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree. Injuries are chance things. They aren’t even necessarily related to how dangerous the hit was. The point of deterring the behavior is that it’s always dangerous and any time someone could be hurt. Incentives don’t work when they are so strongly influenced by chance. Suspending guys for the entire time another player is hurt is just punishing based on luck.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 24, 2009 11:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

Which is why I said it is a good IDEA. In reality I think there is just too much prohibiting it from being fairly used. One of the things that has come up when I have discussed it before is that it could only be invoked with an “intent to injure” call associated with it, and those are rarely called so it would not be used much. I think really it just applies to the whole justice seeking side of me. On rational examination, I just don’t think it can work, which does not make me think it can’t be a great idea in principle.

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by TheRed on Nov 25, 2009 12:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I've never liked this idea...

simply because the severity of injuries caused by suspendible actions seems to basically be random. look at the following hits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYBeyoK5YAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWFsKPNw9Q&feature=related

if you ignore the injuries that resulted from each hit, which one is worse? in my opinion, it’s clearly the one on stastny; veilleux clearly has time to see stastny’s numbers, yet proceeds with his hit anyways and even jumps into the hit. jones, on the other hand, was making a hockey play. yes, he should have let up, but how many times in a game do you see defensemen shoving forecheckers into the boards “from behind?” it happens all the time, and it’s a safe play if the forechecker is standing straight and is braced for a hit (which they should be).

so should jones have been suspended for a year while bergeron was out simply because of a hockey play gone wrong? and veilleux should be let off the hook because stastny wasn’t hurt in the hit?

i don’t think that’d be right. suspensions should be based on intent and the context in which they occur. if it’s a hockey play gone wrong (e.g. the Wilson on Moreau hit), then that should be taken into account. but the severity of the injury should not affect the severity of the suspension. otherwise, the message suspensions send is that extremely dangerous plays like veilleux’s are okay if the other player doesn’t gets hurt. the message that SHOULD be sent is that regardless of the outcome, it’s not okay to run somebody from behind, or elbow somebody in the head, or whatever.

the idea should be to prevent all plays like that, not just the ones that result in injury.

by ExiledAmongYou on Nov 24, 2009 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

i see what you're saying

certainly if causing an injury was the ONLY criteria for a suspension, that would be silly. but, actions should has consequences based on the results to some degree as well. Take our legal system, do we prosecute people for murder when they try to kill someone and fail? no, that’s attempted murder, a (slightly) lesser charge.

I think setting a base suspension level on a per case basis, 2 games in this case, is a good start, then that gets extended to whatever the the player you injured ends up sitting out.

as TheRed says, this would need heavy policing to make sure it’s not abused. But I think it’s a much better deterrent than the current system.

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Attempted Murder

What is that. Do they give a nobel prize for attempted chemistry.

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by Savage33 on Nov 24, 2009 5:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

silly aussies

by thedoctor on Nov 24, 2009 6:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Correction

Silly Americans. It was you people who came up with that line, although I’m willing to take any and all credit for it.

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by Savage33 on Nov 24, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Obama got one for attempted leadership

by jd21 on Nov 24, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

this is a hockey blog...

are we really going to go here?

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

in case there’s any question, no, we are DEFINITELY not going to. please.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 24, 2009 8:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I went there before

and apparently I shouldn’t have.

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by Savage33 on Nov 24, 2009 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

that’s what he said

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 25, 2009 9:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

tsn.ca

is reporting that Briere is suspended 2 games and no public stonings.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 24, 2009 2:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Yup, suspended

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by BeachNSnowGirl on Nov 24, 2009 2:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

i would have liked to see the public stoning..but i can live with two games,

i wonder how the nhl wheel of justice played into this one?

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by horbayj on Nov 24, 2009 3:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Footer back tomorrow per AD

'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'

by horbayj on Nov 24, 2009 3:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs