Brian Willsie Recalled
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 PM MST
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As expected, forward Brian Willsie has been recalled by the Colorado Avalanche this evening. Willsie is currently 3rd on the Monsters in scoring with 11 points in 19 games. The two players with more points on Lake Erie are Chris Durno, who is already with the team, and Darren Haydar, who has 22 career NHL games and over 600 AHL games (including playoffs). I would have liked to see Haydar get a chance here, to be honest, but the team is going Willsie.
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I was just thinking this might be the chance to actually see Haydar called up while looking at that exact pic on Yahoo Sports. Apparently you worship me.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 29, 2009 9:02 PM MST reply actions
Anybody else here think Willsie just takes up a roster spot? I mean, he could be a great guy and all, but I have never seen him do anything worthwhile in the NHL. I don’t know a whole lot about Haydar, but he’s gotta really suck to be any worse than Willsie.
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He doesn’t seem to do much to help the team, but he doesn’t seem to hurt it either…
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by Americanario on Nov 30, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
Figured it would be Willsie or Haydar. I feel for Monsters fans. The team is really struggling defensively, now the offense has gone dry and the Avs injury bug is creeping up. I can understand the Monsters fans frustration.
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by Angélique C. Murray on Nov 29, 2009 11:51 PM MST reply actions
they’ve got Brock Bradford though!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2009 5:48 AM MST up reply actions
I think Haydar’s contract is a one way ( at least I remember it that way). If he is called up, he stays.
Why not call up Stoa, or someone else. Willsie has had his chance. He will never make it in the NHL. He has been given more than enough chances….. and Haydar hasn’t really ever.
by toothandnailer777 on Nov 30, 2009 1:44 AM MST reply actions
that’s not really how the contracts work, but he is on a two-way deal.
on a one-way deal, a player makes the same amount of money whether he plays in the NHL or AHL. Tom Preissing has a 1-way deal.
on a two-way deal, a player makes one amount in the NHL and another in the AHL, In Haydar’s case, he would make $525,000 with the Avs and $200,000 with Lake Erie. the type of contract doesn’t have any bearing on a player’s waiver status or roster status.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2009 5:43 AM MST up reply actions
Willsie
Isn’t Willsie really close to a milestone for GP in the NHL that would set him up for the rest of his life or something?
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20 games away from a full NHL pension. not sure if these numbers are 100% accurate, but it’s a significant jump nonetheless:
NHL pensions, which are also determined by the length of a player’s career, require at least 160 games played for eligibility. Those with less than 400 games played can collect $8,000 CDN per year beginning at age 45. Those who’ve played more than 400 games receive a payment of $250,000 CDN at the age of 55, in addition to $12,500 CDN per year at 45.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2009 5:45 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, that's it.
So not “set up for the rest of his life”, but certainly a significant boost. I’m fine with Willsie playing for us for the next 20 games.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2009 5:54 AM MST up reply actions
I’d sure like to see him get to 400, absolutely.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2009 6:45 AM MST up reply actions
Definitely.
Honestly, if the difference between the Avs going up or down in the next few weeks is Haydar or Willsie, we have a lot more pressing issues. Willsie ftw, until he hits his 400 games.
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2009 6:56 AM MST up reply actions
Try someone else. So tired of Willsie yikes 20 more games this year is too much. Can’t it be spread over the next year too?
What?
You want to try someone else now but you’re willing to spread the Willsie out over next season, as well? Won’t you be wanting to “try someone else” next year, too?
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by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2009 7:45 AM MST up reply actions
FWIW
I don’t mind Willsie. He’s pretty much the perfect AHL stopgap. He brings nothing to the table offensively, but he comes up, plays smart and doesn’t make killer turnovers or killer mistakes that costs the team.
He’s certainly not an every night player or anything, but as an AHL call-up to fill in once in a while, or for a week or two, he’s well suited to that role.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 30, 2009 8:25 AM MST reply actions
Oh yeah that should never happen, unless maybe on the Penalty Kill.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 30, 2009 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
Willsie’s not great, but you could do a lot worse. He’s got a deceptive shot. I’d rather see him there than Tucker.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Make mine a Bertuzzi supreme.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks for the assist on the SCF winning goal and all,
but at what point does this guy stop getting credit for that point and the virtue of not completely sucking?
God love him for the assist, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Really, I did. But what upside of any type does Brian Willsie have? He won’t make many boneheaded turnovers in his own zone?
Ummmmm, ‘kay. ’cept here’s a thought. How about a few other guys that haven’t shown that proclivity to date who might be able to earn their keep on the 4th line? Say, Dupuis, Haydar, Stoa, Mercier just for starters. Were Yip healthy, he’d be on that list too. I’m not saying that any or all of those guys are the second coming, but we know for damned sure that Willsie isn’t. So WTF with the 4th line? If you’re not gonna skate Koci (not that this is in any way a bad decision, mind you), then could we please have a 4th line with a little jump instead of Willsie’s “I promise not to completely suck ala Brett Clark, just please, for the love of all that is holy, let me have my pension, ‘coz I, unlike Pornstache, didn’t have the foresight to get me an MBA and I gots nowhere to go!”
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I read this 2ce and I have no idea who you’re talking about. Didn’t Foote and Sakic have the assists on the SCF winning goal?
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
I could be wrong, but I was 95% sure that Willsie had the 2nd assist on Tanguay’s goal. If not, then I really can’t figure out why Willsie is up when the others aren’t. Perhaps he has photos of the goat (and PL).
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 1, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
I hereby withdraw my misplaced thanks to Willsie.
And repeat my question to the organ – I – zation:
What the F*&^?
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Sometimes the evil you know is better then the one you don’t? The team knows Willsie and what he will do/not do for the team. Haydar, Stoa, Mercier, Yip, etc do not have experience with the Avs and most of those guys don’t have experience in the NHL.
Not saying it isn’t fair, or that I even agree with Willsie being called up over some of those guys. Just saying I understand that this may be more along the staff’s lines of thinking.
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If the team was doing poorly, I think you would see those guys brought up. But since there’s been success and the team is still at the top of the standings, Canary is right: better to play the guy with whom you know what to expect.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 1, 2009 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, I understand the argument, I just don't buy it.
We’re talking about a guy being called up to sit in the pressbox/get 4th line minutes. As we all know, those minutes can be pretty scarce (cf. Koci, David).
If the coaching staff truly believes that they can’t give guys other than a known, proven, career pressboxer/AHLer (Willsie) a shot on the 4th line, especially when some of the alternatives have not insubstantial NHL experience (Haydar and to a lesser degree Dupuis) unless the Ti4(insert initial here) is in full effect, then I call BULLSHIT on any comments they may make re: development of young talent.
It’s December, early December. If we were in a tight race with CAL for the division lead in late March, I think the “devil you know” argument holds a lot more water. As it is, I think it’s a chickenshit move not to give Haydar or Dupuis a shot. Given the lack of production by Stoa and Mercier and their youth, I can accept the decision not to bring them up.
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didn’t dupuis make an appearance last year and was less than impressive?
besides, maybe they see something in willsie that we don’t.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 2, 2009 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
didn’t dupuis make an appearance last year and was less than impressive?
Yes, but that was pretty much true of Willsie too.
They’ve both been up for 4 games this year. Dupuis has an assist, Willsie has nothing. Dupuis is 7 years younger and did strike me as being a responsible, hard skating 4th liner with a bit of speed and a willingness to go to the net. Willsie just made me yell at the TV “why is he on the ice?”. Dupuis has some potential. Willsie is what he is.
I’d like them to call up Haydar over either of them anyway.
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well, clearly dupuis didn’t do much for me cuz i don’t even remember him this year. i’m not saying willsie is all that much either, though i remember liking his play some last year. i wouldn’t mind seeing haydar, too.
i guess i trust sacco enough to believe he knows what he’s doing. there haven’t been too many “why isn’t that guy in the press box?” moments for me this year – well, at least in comparison to last year.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 2, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
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