it’s still to early apparently

I would love to see Kovi here. He would draw the opposing team’s top D-men every night and SoS, Wolski and Hejduk would light up the scoreboard.

Plus, Duchene and Kovi together would be fun to watch.

I think the Avs are done with Top 3 picks for another decade or more, so giving up a No. 1 pick isn’t as bad as it may sound.

Kipper set the modern day NHL record in GAA and shutouts in that run.

Iginla is a fantastic example. He’s a brilliant player and great leader. He’s about as good as it gets as a winger in the last 10 years. But despite that, he still hasn’t been able to lead his team to any consistency. They’ve gone through like five coaches and more centermen than I can count. If he’s the best there is and even HE can’t bring it then I think that’s a bigger support of my argument.

There hasn’t been a winger that’s lead a cosumate Stanley Cup contending team since Guy Lefluer!! Wingers have way too much of their ice time in which they cannot effect the play. If you got 11 million of your salary on the ice then it had better be able to bring it’s force to bear on all aspects of the game when they are on the ice. The winger is the one position that can’t effectively do that.

I think only a winger can score 91 points yet end up on a team that only nets 76 points for the season. It’s just the very last position on the team you want to build around. It would be great to have him and I’d entertain any winger in an equitable trade, or a guy like Liles as a 5/6 defensemen. But no one is going to trade him for that. For the most part I’d say the center of the lineup shouldn’t be touched for a long, long time.

why don’t we wait and see what happens with shattenkirk, elliott, guance and cohen? after all, wasn’t there that same excitement over hensick? and look how that turned out. ; -)

i’m not saying liles won’t ever be trade bait. maybe he will. or maybe one of those other guys will be. all i’m saying is that everyone is being way too harsh on him, suggesting that he’s a terrible player and should be traded away while/when he has any value. he has value…to this team…right now. and, like you said, he will for the remainder of this year and, i believe, even going into next year or longer.

here’s the thing: it’s not like you would trade away hejduk just because you have jones or stewart coming up the ranks, right? well, if liles is still doing what he’s supposed to and producing at the level he has been over the course of his career, he could become that lifelong Avalanche player (the avs are the only team liles has played for) that brings a sense of stability and leadership to the team like the Duke has. keeping veteran players that have history with the team around is an important part of maintaining a sense of unity. teams need that; young players need to see that the organization looks after its own.

Yeah, I remember that!! It was sweet!

His name is Jules. Like Jules Verne.