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Well whose fault was THAT?

I'm not sure what to say right now, to be honest. I'm pretty much speechless. That game against the Ducks, they of 35 points - well, 37 now - and almost dead last in the West, was just amazing. Amazingly bad, I mean. And this was on HOME ICE! Home Ice and the Avalanche give up four goals in half a period to blow another two goal lead and blow their best chance at winning three in a row in a long time.

No words can describe what I saw out there tonight except perhaps "train wreck". Even then, most train wrecks are more organized than the Blahvs looked in that third period. So whose fault was that? There's a LOT of people we can stick the blame on, but who is the winner? (loser?)...

A couple players had good games, mainly Andy and Yip... But there were some stinkers out there as well.

Star-divide

* THE REFS - This is a popular choice. After allowing that amazingly bullshit call to go through and give the Ducks their first goal, the momentum was 100% Duck the rest of the way through. Even then, they decided to review a goal immediately afterward that nobody could even find the transgression on. If that goal call wasn't reviewable - and I 100% believe that EVERYTHING should be reviewable in Hockey to avoid shit like this from going down - the Refs should have realized it was a bullshit move by the Ducks to start with and called no goal the second they saw Anderson getting pushed into the side of his cage.

* KYLE QUINCEY - Quincey was unfortunately the player who shot the puck down the ice with 30 seconds left, causing an icing and basically handing the Ducks a free go-ahead goal against the tired Avs players in their own zone. Before that he wasn't exactly having a stellar game either. 

* JOE SACCO - It all comes back to the coach sometimes, could it be possible that he made some really screwy line decisions throughout the game that didn't help the offense out? Maybe he gave the defense some bad pairings. Maybe he even told the Avs to sit on the lead instead of trying to go for the Jugular! That seems to be the easiest way to beat them after all. Just let them get a two goal lead and it's a cakewalk! To be especially sour, it doesn't help Sacco's image to watch his power play unit fail so hard and so miserably night in and night out. Just one power play goal and this game is probably a 3-0 or 3-1 Avalanche victory.

On another note, Sacco might have completely dropped the ball forcing Andy into yet another start against a supposedly weak Duck team, even with Budaj playing his best hockey in ages recently. If Anderson is dead by the time the playoffs start, it's ALL on Sacco.

* THE OFFENSE AS A WHOLE - The Avs managed a paltry two goals in the game, one of which was on a lucky deflection. Part of the reason that they only managed those two goals is a repeat of what must seem like the theme of the year; the Avalanche just weren't shooting the puck. It wasn't even a case of getting all their shots blocked! The Avalanche just refuse to shoot the puck enough to get great chances out of it. The fact that the O only managed around 20 shots for yet another game is never a good sign.

* THE DEFENSE AS A WHOLE - Another popular choice I'm sure, the Avs defense let over 40 shots get through to Andy tonight. No goaltender, no matter how hot he may be, deserves to go through a game facing any more than 30 shots. No good defense in hockey should even allow 40 total chances on the night, let alone shots that get to the net. If Andy wasn't so hot to start the game it would have been over approximately halfway through the second.

* THE SMURFIFORMS - The Avs just can't seem to win in these god damn uniforms. And the losses that the Avs get in them seem to be the worst kinds of losses. Getting blown the hell out at home by the Nucks and the Caps and now giving up 4 goals in 7 minutes to the Ducks... Even if they were prettier to look at, I'd have no problems.

* PETER BUDAJ - Because he is teh suxxorz and thus is obviously to blame for this awful showing. (Levity, people!)

Poll
So who's to blame?
The Refs
36 votes
Kyle Quincey
3 votes
Joe Sacco
8 votes
The "offense"
9 votes
The "defense"
39 votes
Mr. Suxxorz
12 votes
Incredibly Ugly Blue Uniforms
48 votes

155 votes | Poll has closed

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I can’t really follow Joe Sacco’s thinking. He never has the Avs ‘go for the jugular’ as you so aptly put it. And I guess Budaj was so good during Anderson’s injury that Sacco is never going to play him again?

by Dustin Burfiend on Dec 23, 2009 12:42 AM MST reply actions  

I’m gonna go with the D, the offense doesn’t really get much of a chance to shine when you spend the entire game in your own zone, and the few scoring chances they did get were pretty good, abysmal power play notwithstanding. That said, Foote was excellent tonight, made the crease his territory and cleared an insane amount of rebounds.

Also, I stand by my statement that the refs reviewed the Sexton goal just as a giant middle finger to the fans.

by wickediz on Dec 23, 2009 1:30 AM MST reply actions  

the offense doesn’t really get much of a chance to shine when you spend the entire game in your own zone

But some of the reason the team was in their own zone was because the offense couldn’t carry the puck through the neutral zone.

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

This.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

of course, the two girls in love with two d-men aren’t biased or anything, tho. ; -)

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha, true enough. But for this game at least, I thought being hemmed in to their own zone was a bigger problem than turning the puck over in transition. Blame for that lies in the forwards too, since they’re covering the points. I’d put the whole team defense at fault, not just the defensemen.

by wickediz on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Biased? Pfffttt!

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

You two?

Not at all!!!

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by gl avfan on Dec 23, 2009 4:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I blame the D, and Anderson. After playing a stellar game for nearly 45 minutes, and I mean he was SPECTACULAR…Andy broke down. As did the defense, who forgot that last 15 minutes of the game.

But what was said was right, no killer instinct on this team, no finishing ability

If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.

by chiavsfan on Dec 23, 2009 2:33 AM MST reply actions  

Hard for a goalie to not breakdown facing 40+ shot in a game. Not making an excuse, just saying that the defense has a little more blame.

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by Americanario on Dec 23, 2009 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I was considering adding Andy as an option on the poll since to be fair those last two goals were fairly soft…

But come on, 43 shots and the guy is supposed to stop them all? Can’t blame him for that.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

43 shots the night after playing in Minny, I might add…

"I know everyone has their own opinion, but your opinion is wrong. "

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 23, 2009 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

which is why Budaj should have played the Minny game. That would have been my choice. It would have made the most sense. He has good numbers against Minny and they have less offensive weapons than Anaheim. That would have meant Andy would have been rested for the Anaheim game which I knew was going to include a lot of physical play and lots of shots on goal. This seems like a good use of a back-up goaltender.

Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.

by hockeymom on Dec 23, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

this

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

what about adding “young guys making rookie mistakes” as an option? i think that some of the predictions that the kids wouldn’t be able to keep up their pace through the entire year might actually have had some merit…(and yes, Mr. Mirtle, I may end up eating a bit of crow on that one)

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I think that the fact that they are a young team and that they were on their second game had something to do with it. It’s the third time in a row that we have lost the second of a back to back game.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

hmmmm, you are on to something here. and how many of those back to backs has andy played both of the games? i think we have two issues going on here maybe.

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, the other two Boods was playing.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

damn, there goes that argument. well, at least there’s still the one about the youngins, right?

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

But maybe it’s the youngins that are tired and out of place on the second night? Perhaps they need the practice day to remind themselves of what to do? Maybe they are deciding to treat the second game as a practice. After all Footer showed up, he’s no young gun anymore.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

that’s exactly what i mean. footer’s been around so he knows how to find that extra tank from which to pull. the youngins…well, they’re still trying to figure that out. i dunno. i’m so at a loss as to why this is happening. it’s starting to feel all too much like last year sometimes.

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Budaj has 4 votes? Gahahahaha

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 9:12 AM MST reply actions  

I just added a poll option for the Smurfiforms

Can’t believe I forgot it at first!

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 9:23 AM MST reply actions  

Inability to clear ...... Icing ........ shooting gallery ......... tired legs

The Avalanche Experience.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 23, 2009 11:01 AM MST reply actions  

This should be the Meme of the Year.

"I know everyone has their own opinion, but your opinion is wrong. "

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 23, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

which means just 8 more days to use it! right? right?

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 23, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Cranky ........ Dater Love ........ rickroll hate ....... Arny watch

The DDC Experience.

Oh, you only wish I’d only use if for 8 more days. I’ll quit as soon as the Avs change their marketing campaign. Bwahahahaha.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 23, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

See you in 2016 then.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

See you in 2016 then.

Optimist.

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - Time to grow a pair, boys!

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 23, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

no no, I just mean that’s when I expect the team to move to Winnipeg.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Blasphemer! Seriously, I am concerned that the “Denver doesn’t deserve a hockey team” crowd is going to start running with their woeful attendance numbers. All good rationale aside.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 23, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

They certainly had tired legs, especially Quincy. At first I thought he was falling down a bunch because he lost an edge on his skates. When that didn’t change it was obvious, he had jello legs. I’ve been there, The first thing to go is your ability to stop/change direction.

Really, this was a back to back set on a day of travel. I’m not too concerned that this represents the Avs ability or anything.

by Dario on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, that tired legs thing sucks. getting stuck out on a long shift and trying to fight in the corners with someone for a loose puck and then stay on pace with him as he breaks out to open ice…and all your legs do is crumble beneath you. yup, i’ve been there too. and it ain’t pretty.

quincey has too many minutes out there. isn’t he leading the league in minutes right now or something?

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

He's 13th league wide.

Averages 24:56 a game, the league leader (Boyle) has 26:54. He also has 15 more penalty minutes than Boyle. He has the most on our team though Hannan averages 22:08 a game.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

for a while there, tho, i think quincey was on top (that’s what she you said)

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah I think he was (and I wish!)

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Dec 23, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

How was Sacco running the lines in the 3rd? Was he having the guys out there for short shifts (and I know there are times with icing and such when he doesn’t have control). Someone brought up before that when Sacco benches players during the 3rd period, or only plays a few guys for that period, that that can lead to the “tired legs” 3rd period meltdown issue. I understand the benching thing to make a point, so long as that approach doesn’t end up losing the game (meaning you can bench the guy for the next game instead).

Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.

by hockeymom on Dec 23, 2009 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t have shift charts or anything, but I did note the 4th line out on the ice for MUCH more of the game last night than I can recall previously this season. Especially in the 3rd period. Maybe that has something to do with not feeling obliged to protect the (other?) team from the ravages of Koci. Maybe water is wet. Maybe the sky is blue.

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - Time to grow a pair, boys!

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 23, 2009 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

i noticed liles was out there (of course) a lot in the third. so either he was having a better night (which i think he was for the most part) or sacco realized the second game of a back to back was not the time to send a message to anyone. tho i’m hoping for the former, i wouldn’t be surprised if the latter was a factor as well.

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 8:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow, the Smurfiforms caught up pretty quick. :/

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 2:01 PM MST reply actions  

Uniprons....Smurfiforms...David Koci...32.2 shots against per game.

The Avalanche Experience.

"I know everyone has their own opinion, but your opinion is wrong. "

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 23, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Dead Kittens....Poorly Timed Penalties....Sham Wow....Squandering 3rd Period Leads

The Avalanche Experience

"They're unbelievable, really good...They sure don't look like 18-year-olds out there." - Joe Sakic

by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 23, 2009 8:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I blame coaching, but not Sacco alone.

I blame their strength and conditioning coach. The Avs are constantly tired in the 3rd.

I should never be taken seriously.... Seriously!

by AvDog on Dec 25, 2009 1:50 AM MST reply actions  

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