Game 32 Recap: Avalanche 4 - Blues 0
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 7, 2009 9:33 PM MST
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Lonliness
Empty chest
And nothing lasts forever
My first instinct is to make this recap a long, sarcastic diatribe about how Peter Budaj has sucked his way into a 1.34 GAA and .959 save percentage over the last 3 games (and, by the way, 2 key road wins). However, since I don't really know what "diatribe" means, I'm going to play this one straight.
As I stated in my recap tonight, the Avs were going to need a strong game from Peter Budaj to beat the stingy Blues' defense, and they got exactly that. Budaj turned aside all 35 shots he face (including 17 in the final frame) to earn his 1st shutout of the season. His defense played well in front of him (they blocked 20 shots to the Blues 4) for most of the night (3rd period thoughts to follow below), but let's give the credit to the #1 star of the game; Budaj played a hell of a game.
The Avs came out firing in this one, putting up 13 shots on Chris Mason in the 1st period. I saw mention somewhere that Joe Sacco is looking for his team to fire more, and Blues' reporter Bernie Federko was between the benches during the game and indeed said that Sacco was emphasizing this during the game. Despite the solid first period play, it looked like the Avalanche weren't going to have anything to show for it, especially when Mason made a stupendous glove save behind a screen on John-Michael Liles on a late first-period powerplay. Thankfully, on the faceoff immediately after this save, the Avs won the draw, got the puck back to Liles who dished to Kyle Quincey who fired a shot/pass to the net that Chris Stewart deflected into the top corner with just 11 seconds to go in the first.
That would be enough, but the Avs would tack on a few more. At 6:08 of the 2nd, Stastny scored a controversial goal set up by Wolski and Stewart. Wolski took advantage of a sloppy line change by the Blues and carried the puck in down the left wing. The Blues were scrambling to get back in position, and Stewart found space in front of the net. Wolski and Stewart exchanged passed and then David Backes cleared Wolski out of the crease...but he ended up running Wolski into Mason. Stastny came in late and tapped the puck into an empty net. The Blues were outraged, feeling that Wolski interfered with Mason. I've given up trying to figure out what is goalie interference and what isn't, but let's just say I was kind of surprised that one was allowed to stand, even if it's Backes' own stupid fault that Mason was taken out.
The Avs made it 3-0 later in the period, with Stewart deflecting a point shot into the net for the second time in the game (this time, it was Liles taking the shot). Stewart picked up his first 2-goal game of his career. He has 12 points in his last 9 games. Perhaps more importantly, he has 8 points in the 5 games since the David Jones injury, helping to fill a critical void. Matt Duchene effectively iced the game in the 3rd when Wojtek Wolski intercepted a pass and bumped it ahead to Duchene who skated in and fired a wrister through Mason's 5-hole. That goal was Downy soft on Mason's part, but was still a pretty slick shot for Duchene (who otherwise had a quiet night). It was also Wolski's 3rd point in the game. He's been taking a lot of heat this year, but he now has 30 points in 32 games, well on his way to a career year (his high is 50 points). As of right now, he's 19th in the league in scoring, tied with guys like Iginla, Nash and Zetterberg.
The Avs play in the 3rd period continues to mystify me. Actually, after the strong 1st period, the Avs managed just 9 shots the rest of the way- 6 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd. Luckily, they made those shots count and Budaj made some big saves to preserve the shutout, but it wasn't very pretty to watch. The Avs didn't look sharp in the 3rd - pucks were turned over in the neutral zone, battles to the puck were lost, etcetera etcetera. I wonder, could it be a matter of fatigue? While I like the concept of Joe Sacco using the guys who've played the best in the 3rd, I wonder if using just 3 lines in the final frame is the right idea, especially with a lead. Marek Svatos, Matt Hendricks and David Koci had about 4 minutes of ice time in the 3rd period. While those guys aren't exactly Selke award candidates, a couple of timely shifts in the 3rd to spell our other players might help. Maybe it's not fatigue, but I'd really like for someone to figure it out soon so that it can be fixed; the Avs won't always have an ace like Peter Budaj between the pipes. (and...scene).
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2 interest factoids about Stewart’s night.
1 – it comes two days before the 1-year anniversary of his first NHL goal (vs the Kings)
2 – December 7th is also the night that another Avalanche had his first (and only) 2-goal night; Brett Clark, in 2006 vs San Jose.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 7, 2009 9:36 PM MST reply actions
Liles has been getting a little flak lately as well (and deservedly so), but he had a strong game tonight, both defensively and offensively.
That wrister by Duchene tonight looked a lot like the kind Joe used to fire on net that caused goalies problems.
Wilson’s hit on Oshie, a few seconds after he got hit by Oshie, was beautiful!
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I was thinking something similar with regards to ice time and sitting back in the third. Looking at TOI in tonight’s box score, most everyone on the team played 16-21 minutes, aside from the afore mentioned trio of Hendricks, Koci, and Svatos. Fatigue really could be an issue as these guys are all playing a lot of minutes.
There’s no doubting that Koci is ever going to get more than a few minutes of ice time each game. But, Hendricks has shown an ability to play more minutes and is capable in his own zone. And Svatos, while not strong defensively can spell someone in an offensive situation.
Another contributing factor is that this is still a very young game. These high pressure situations in the third in which they are trying to hold onto the lead are going to become exponentially more important as the season wears on. The running around in the third is definitely one area in which this team shows its youth. Granted at this point, they are hopefully gaining some valuable experience. But, down the road if the team stays competitive (or, in order for them to do so), they may want to start looking at some veteran players who can make plays in the defensive zone and act as a calming influence for some of the younger players on the team.
Duchene
While he may have otherwise been quiet on the scoresheet, I thought he was zipping around quite well tonight. Both no goal/ dissallowed goals were the direct result of his hard work.
Get rid of the loser point
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At least
he got one towards the end
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 7, 2009 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
I must have had my rose colored glasses on last night because I really thought Duchene had a great game and one of his best games so far. He seemed to be on the puck all night and I sure didn’t think that last goal was a softie. That looked like a wicked shot that would have gone past most NHL goalies on any given night. Especially the way he faked pass and pulled the puck back in and fired it past the goalie all in one motion. I’ll admit to a fan bias though on this one. The guy is just fun to watch on the ice.
Random happy thought;
if anybody had told you that 40% of the way through the season, not only would the Avs be on top of their division, but would also have the two of their rookies in the top 5 in scoring and 4 in the top 20, would you have believed it? Not sure that I would have, but I’m sure glad to see it!.
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I would have said put down the crack pipe.
Jesus Saves! Duchene gets the rebound and scores!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, give it back to Raycroft.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
I’m certainly glad to see that the Wolski problem looks like it’s been solved for now. Saw him battling along the boards quite well, playing defense (!), and the chances he creates and gets are of a high quality.
What I’m not liking is still the turtling in the third. The team probably earned the break tonight, but in general I’d like to see more shots and offensive pressure in the third.
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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Dec 7, 2009 10:15 PM MST reply actions
OMG!!! BOOODEYE IZ TEH SUXORZZZZ!!!! GOTSTA TRD HMZ 2 DA COLO EEEGGLZZZ!!! FR PCKS & FYOUCHUR!
I mean, in truth, the man didn’t even score. What a lame-o!
Missed the first – or at least the first 19 min. BTW – anybody know what station the 25,000 watt blowtorch of the Rockies candle in the wind broadcasts the Avs’ games on when the Thuggets are playing? Pisses me right off it does.
While I admit that I saw hardly any of the 1st and only half of the 2nd, I am forced to admit that I only noticed Clark seeking to give the game away once or twice – a marked improvement.
Sacco was going with the hot hands – which tonight were Baron – SoS – Stewie, but he was double plus shifting the guys. Not only did the 4th line hardly see the ice, the 3rd wasn’t far behind.
When Cumiskey comes back they HAVE TO sit Clark. He is just dog crap bad. JML is incrementally better and acquitted himself pretty well tonight. Here’s a thought – sit Koci, drop Tucker to the 4th (you’ll see worlds of improvement from Radar and Highlander in his absence) and skate this:
Baron – SoS – Stewie
Galiardi – Dutchie – Duke
Highlander – Radar – Svats
Durno – Hendricks – Tucker
Hobbit – BMF
Hot Pocket – Big Willie
Footer – Fahey (until Roadrunner is back in action)
Shop the NHL’s leading shot blocker to somebody – anybody for picks (preferably) or prospects (if necessary). I’ve also heard interesting proposals such as Raffi Torres for Clark, which I’d be happy to entertain. The guy is an AHL fraud masquerading as an NHL defenseman on the strength of his blocked shots, nearly all of which are a direct result of his refusal/incapacity to play the body. Get rid of him and watch our GAA drop by at least 0.65.
Drop Svats off at the nearest no-kill shelter (who said that I was heartless!) if he doesn’t turn things around on the 3rd line / 2nd PP by Christmas and call up Haydar to replace him if need be.
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101.9 FM
Is where they stick the Avs games when the Snuggets are playing. http://www.altitude.tv/WhatsOn/Radio/Default.aspx
I should never be taken seriously.... Seriously!
Wolski
Has 29 points now I think?
I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.
30pts actually…
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by Americanario on Dec 7, 2009 10:39 PM MST up reply actions
/me shakes fist at ESPN
YOU LIE!!!!
I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.
Let the goalie controversy begin!
OK, I’m just kidding.
Budaj really has but up some darn good numbers in his last three starts. It’s amazing what can happen when the team is playing defense in front of the goalie.
On the season:
Anderson = 14-7-5 – .919 SV% & 2.65 GAA
Budaj = 3-2-1 – .916 SV% & 2.63 GAA
I’d say Budaj is handling the back-up role just fine.
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Last year
This kind of tandem really helped Boston. Of the few unstated things from this season, this is a GREAT omen.
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Agree with both of you
I have been preaching all year that the defense was the problem, not either goalie. This is the absolute best case scenario. I am sorry it took Anderson getting injured for Sacco to finally start playing Budaj, but hopefully now he will cycle Budaj in regularly. This will allow Anderson much needed breaks, and I think a change in goaltending also has the affect of waking the team up. If Boods can hold his own with the Stanley Cup Champs, I don’t think it matters which games he plays.
I changed my Avatar for the day. Texacogirl will probably like it. :-)
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Tex loves anything Budaj.
Total fangirl.
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Dear Cal-Gary Flameouts
Suck it. Yeah. Suck it.
We’re in first place. And I say again – SUCK IT!
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Dear Los Angeles Kings:
Thanks very much. We hope Ryan feels better soon.
Kind regards,
MHH
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We won’t be saying that if the Avs and Kings meet in the playoffs….
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by Americanario on Dec 7, 2009 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
I was at the game last night and quite enjoyed watching the Flame-Outs lose…though, I have to admit, I was talking with some Calg fans at the bar before hand and they were incredibly nice. An anomoly for Flames fans, I know, but still…there are a few cool ones out there.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
Kings(39pts) just beat the Flames (39pts) 2-1…Avs (40pts) 1st in the NW (Calgary still has three games in hand) and 2nd in the West.
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Not only do they have 3 games in hand, but also have an important tie breaker should it come down to it: more wins.
The have have to step it up a level and gain some consistency for a chance to win the NW division.
by c0nquistad0rian on Dec 7, 2009 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
but don’t we have more wins over them?? head to head i mean…
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
…and there’s 60% of the season yet to be played….
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playoffs baby
$20 Chinese Food!!!
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
Brown made Phadouche and Buttmeister look silly on a SH chance.
The cockles of me dark little heart were warmed.
I’ll grant you he didn’t score, but with “two of the best defensemen in the world” draped on him like bedsheets, it was pretty cool to watch.
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that play came right down in front of me and it was so fun to watch. he got some serious hits in on quite a few flame-outs too which were equally nice to see
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
Canadians are good people
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 8, 2009 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
And now for something completely different;
From THN (The Hockey News) website:
Movements in the world of hockey Monday:
National Hockey League
NHLPA-RW Darren McCarty announced his retirement.
CAROLINA HURRICANES-Recalled D Brett Carson from Albany (AHL).
DALLAS STARS-Placed D Karlis Skrastins on injured reserve, retroactive to Dec. 3. Recalled D Ivan Vishnevskiy from Texas (AHL).
NASHVILLE PREDATORS-Recalled D Alexander Sulzer from Milwaukee (AHL) and D Reid Cashman from Cincinnati (ECHL). Reassigned G Jeremy Smith to Cincinnati and G Mark Dekanich from Cincinnati to Milwaukee. Released F Matt Pierce.
WASHINGTON CAPITALS-Assigned D Karl Alzner to Hershey (AHL).
American Hockey League
AHL-Suspended Syracuse LW Kevin Harvey for two games as a result of his actions in a Dec. 4 game at Binghamton.
HARTFORD WOLF PACK-Signed F Andrew Carroll.
SPRINGFIELD FALCONS-Reassigned F Jamie Bates to Stockton (ECHL).
SYRACUSE CRUNCH-Signed C Daniel Tkaczuk.
ECHL
CHARLOTTE CHECKERS-Announced F Andrew Carroll has been loaned to Hartford (AHL). Announced D Tysen Dowzak has been assigned to the team by the New York Rangers.
KALAMAZOO WINGS-Announced F Mathieu Curadeau has been returned to the team by Hamilton (AHL). Released F Travis Granbois and F Tommy Lange.
Des Moines Dudes Sliding About With Weird Looking Shoes On:
Announced D Terrence Kartoffelschmeisser and Jean-Luc Jenecestquois have been created just to see if anyone is paying attention.
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Listened to the first 2 periods.
I wonder what Moser looks like while he’s broadcasting a game. I picture him bouncing in his seat in giddy excitement while his eyes dart back and forth between rosters, stat sheets and the game.
It was good to hear that Sacco wants more shots, but it sucked to hear that it didn’t happen. My new wishlist includes:
-A game with 10+ shots in each period. (Hell, I’ll settle for 10+ shots in the 3rd period at least)
-A hat trick.
-A ridiculously one-sided blow-out by the Avs.
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lol poont
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“Mom….Uncle Chuck?”
Jesus Saves! Duchene gets the rebound and scores!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Just wondering, what is everyone’s problem with the Nuggers here? :(
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Besides the fact that I find the NBA to be a complete waste of time since it became a street league with corrupt refs? Nothing
The whole corrupt refs thing here.
If I watch sports and the refereeing is so bad that it literally makes me angry to watch a game, and I can’t possibly believe that a person could be so incompetent at their job as an NBA ref, I refuse to watch it.
I’d actually like it if the refs weren’t so bad
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 8, 2009 7:32 AM MST up reply actions
saw an interview yesterday with a former nba ref admitting that there is bias and the refs regularly call plays to favor one team over another and that it often has to do with ratings and an unsaid understanding of sorts for which team should get the favortism. unfortunately, if it happens there, i have to believe it happens (at least to some degree) in hockey as well. so maybe the wing nuts aren’t so far off on the conspiracy theory after all….although, they would have been the recipients of the homer calls but whatever.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
You had BETTER not like College football.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Dec 8, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
I love the Nuggets.
I hate all the trash that gets tossed their way but I understand the NBA is the most outwardly corrupt and the Nuggets represent a LOT of the image projected by the general attitude of the players. The NBA is basically the opposite of the NHL.
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off topic but worth mentioning: at the bar before the kings game last night, they had two TVs on Monday night football (right next to each other) and one on the Nugs game. i asked for one of the MNF TVs to the Avs game and they said no. WTF? they did change the nugs game but still. so freaking lame.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
Random observations from the game:
Duchene looks like he is getting that pinpoint accuracy on his shots…and I love when he uses the defender as a screen. The best part is here telegraphs it to the defender, who still has to bite on it.
Budaj played extremely well last night. Two goalies playing well is a GREAT problem to have. But remember, the BEST goalie is still on the bench (Weiman and his PERFECT save percentage)….I kid I kid
Hey John Michael Liles…see what happens when you shoot without hesitation? Keep it up, or I’ll send Beachie after you!
Hey Granato and Quenneville…see how effective a guy in front of the net can be? Amazing isn’t it?
Adam Foote…I rag on you a lot for having Karlis Skrastins-like “cement feet.” But there is a WORLD of difference in the Avs defense with him on it…than the few games where he was injured and the D corps looked like they were clueless.
Welcome back “October Avs” (for now anyway)…the road warriors, if you will. Another successful road trip where (outside of this St. Louid game) the Avs best effort ended up in the only regulation loss. 10-7-4 on the road…not bad considering last years team finished 14-24-3 on the road.
Welcome back "October Avs"
That’s exactly what I was thinking last night. Hopefully December will be the new October (with the exception of the Florida game, which I personally am going to pretend, like the Vancouver game, never happened, for lots of different reasons).
I would love to bottle last night’s effort and see it played again over the rest of the season.
Great job boys!
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Sending Beachie
Shouldn’t that be a reward?
I need a new sig, since i think I cursed ORLY by promoting him.
Thank god there was a bigfoot sighting last night
Granted, it consisted solely of Duchene making the Blues look stupid, but before Bigfoot appeared there was a sinking feeling the Blues might start scoring.
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i thought the win was the most dominating in a very long time, maybe since that win over minny in the playoffs. we made the blues look slow.
Stastny has been flying lately. It’s amazing how he makes everyone better on his line. Also, Footer has quietly been our best defender for a week or 2 now. Great to see him playing this way.
Duchene is a much better center than winger. I’m glad that experiment is over, though I’m also glad to have seen it tried.
Smack talk about players: Hejduk is struggling a little bit in his return. That’s totally fine, but if he’s not 100% I’m not sure he should be out there. Same goes for McLeod. Both aren’t exactly initiating play.
I had sort of a revelation about Galiardi last night: He’s a pretty crappy winger at this point. He is a poor boards player and doesn’t win a lot of battles in the offensive zone. He’s a much better center, where he’s got a little more room and focus on his defensive abilities. That’s not to say he can’t improve, but it’s quite a problem for Sacco right now.
I agree pretty much with everything you say, Hedjuk and McLeod are playing because the avs have stretched their depth to the max, if you sit them or play them less, you’ve got Svatos, Hendricks and maybe Hensick to pick up the slack and of all of them maybe Hendricks could do it. It’s pretty obvious that Svatos has lost Sacco’s favor.
Jesus Saves! Duchene gets the rebound and scores!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Someone must need scoring
we need to ship Svatos
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This is obviously something to which you’ve given thought. What do we get (other than relief from the pain of wasted potential)?
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Yowza. Didn’t think it was quite that bad. Only a 3rd? I’d have thought maybe like a 3rd and a 4th or a prospect and a 7th?
Then again, I haven’t really thought it out too much.
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i thought maybe a low 2nd, but after this year, it’s definitely gone down. 3rd is probably right now.
im sure they’d off dupuis on us too if we wanted. but we don’t.
If I’m the Pens, I wouldn’t trade Dupuis for Svatos. Dupuis is leading all Penguins wingers in goal scoring.
by c0nquistad0rian on Dec 8, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
with 7, tied with guerin. they might go for it if the avs threw in a 3rd or 4th. Let’s send them koci for goddard if they’ll go for it.
Jesus Saves! Duchene gets the rebound and scores!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Hendricks
I really like him (met him – truly nice, nice guy). He strikes me as one of those Lappy-type heart and soul guys. If he is stuck on a line with Koci, I don’t think you will see much production from him.
Last year, the Avs had no strong, good healthy centers. Other than the injured Sakic and Statsny, there was Arnason (now in Russia), Guite (now in the minors), Hensick (now in the minors), McCormick (now in the minors). Seems that problem has reversed itself.
Svatos is definitely on the trade table (probably the best thing for him). Wish it would happen sooner than later.
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The wheels are officially off
the downward spiral is in full motion, the rooks have hit the wall. 17-9-6 after 21 road games, 11 home games. What a mess!
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
The scheduling software should be shot.
Mile High Hockey: Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, hating the Wings.
SPESHLY BOOODEYE!
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
not for me
It’s on Versus. I have DirecTV. Screw them and Comcast.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 8, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
yep. tomorrow is blackout day for DirecTV customers. I just might have a whiny rant planned for the AM
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 8, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Not of the hideous variety, I hope
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by Bob in Boulder on Dec 8, 2009 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
not for me either
Dish Network is almost as bad as DirecTV. Vs is only available on their “Gold Package” – an extra $25 / month.
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The one upside of living in Canada…
Sandie
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 8, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Again the biggest stat I take from this year so far…
Last year: 14 TOTAL road wins
This year: 10 road wins before the All-Star (Olympic this year) break
or maybe this one...
Last year: 69 points TOTAL
This year: 40 points with 50 games left to play
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
and a majority of those games at home as well, and not many players headed to the olympics.
i betcha forsberg is regretting signing with modo right now, i really do.
If he wants to break the contract, they will let him.
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STOP!
don’t tease me like that.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
Doesn't he own the team by now?
I am sure he could break his K at the trade deadline
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Damn sorry, K = Contract in legal terms. Hard to get out of it.
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I think even if he could break the contract, he’s ineligible to play in the NHL this year because of it
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
I thought he would be eligible for waiver claims if the Swedish league let him out of his contract.
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
I honestly don’t know, but Dater said this when he played in a tournament in October:
By the way, Forsberg does not lose his eligibility to play in the NHL by playing in this tournament, as it’s not under a paid contract situation, etc. He would lose his eligibility if he played a pro game for MoDo or any other European team
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 8, 2009 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
Jibbles is right. Forsberg did sign a contract to play pro in the SEL with MoDo (as did his childhood friend, Markus Naslund. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4695457.
So, he would lose eligibility in so much that if he were allowed to break his contract to sign with an NHL club, he would have to pass through waivers before he could join said club.
This actually happened last year with Wade Dubielewicz. He was released from his contract with AK Bars in the KHL and subsequently signed with the Islanders. However, the Blue Jackets claimed him off of waivers.
On December 30, 2008, Wade Dubielewicz terminated his contract with Ak Bars by mutual agreement. In the last month before that, Wade often was the backup goalie, with younger Stanislav Galimov becoming the #1 goalie for Ak Bars. Wade left Ak Bars with a record of 11-8-3, a .892 save pct., and 2.77 GAA. After an injury to the Islanders’ goaltender Joey MacDonald and with starting goalie Rick DiPietro sidelined, Dubielewicz re-signed with the Islanders on January 15, 2009,2 but the Blue Jackets claimed him off re-entry waivers on January 17, 2009. Dubielewicz played the rest of the season for Columbus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Dubielewicz#Playing_career
by c0nquistad0rian on Dec 8, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
so who could claim him off waivers? how is it decided who gets him? how is it different from when a player with an NHL club goes on waivers?
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
I think it’s in order from worst to first place.
So right now Carolina would have 1st shot at him, then Toronto, Anaheim etc…
But this could be wrong.
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 8, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
As far as I am aware you are right.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 8, 2009 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
So in order to sign him, the avs would have to work out a deal with carolina to take him then trade him to the avs? I wouldn’t see him lasting til it got to the avs.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
Brian Burke
would be SOOOOO pissed.
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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 8, 2009 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
That’s an interesting thought. However, I’m not sure how possible it would be. Would this be a violation of the CBA? I could see that type of “agreement” between the waiving club and the claiming club be construed as some sort of tampering or otherwise in violation of the spirit of the CBA. Then again, I think that a similar type of agreement was made between the Stars and the Rangers, when the latter claimed Sean Avery on re-entry waivers.
Then again, the only difference between this type of waiver situation and one in which an NHL club waives a player is that presumably a team signing a player from a European league wants that player while a team waiving one of their own players would not mind having his salary off of the books.
Even if it were possible, what price would the Avs be paying to obtain Forsberg’s services (in addition to his salary)? We’re talking about moving a top six forward, presumably on a one year contract, being traded from a last place club to a division leader. You’d have to consider that the deal would have to be similar to that of a trade deadline “rental” player type deal.
From looking at last season’s deadline deals in which one team gets a top six forward, the other team usually gets a top offensive prospect and a 2nd round pick. Plus, I would think that the ’Canes would want another lower round draft pick or prospect for their troubles considering this move would put them at the back of the waiver line (as noted in the comments, waiver priority is determined by standings – last to first. But when a team claims a player, they automatically move to last place in line.)
by c0nquistad0rian on Dec 9, 2009 12:10 AM MST up reply actions
so does that mean he doesn’t have a right to refuse the contract? he’s forced to sign with that team? that would be odd.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
As I understand it, yes. If he plays pro elsewhere (or at least in the realm of the IIHF leagues who agree to play nice with one another) and seeks to enter the NHL that season, he is subject to waivers in a manner similar to being waived off an NHL roster and into (subject to waiver pickup) the AHL.
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how is he playing anyway? any news on that? robo-foot holding out?
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
According to Hockeydb.com
In 8 games he has 8 goals, 7 assists, and 22 PIM.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Budaj got the third star for yesterday from NHL. That’s totally awesome and I’m so happy for him. But Ovechkin gets second star? for what? two goals?? Stewie got two goals last night, right? And an assist. And was +2. Ovie? 2 goals, no assists, +1. That’s effed up no matter how you slice it.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM MST reply actions
Number 2 star is reserved for players only named Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, and Richards. The other two spots are earned by merit.
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Yeah
there is a whole Down Goes Brown type flowchart on NHL Stars.
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It was to do with suspensions I believe.
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by BeachNSnowGirl on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
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