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Game 63: Ranger 6, Avalanche 1

Turning ugly into uglier

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I really don't understand how people don't lose fingers in these kinds of things

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Final - 2.28.2009 1 2 3 Total
Colorado Avalanche 0 1 0 1
New York Rangers 4 1 1 6

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"Oh, hell’s kitchen is a crazy place
I ain’t never coming back, oh no no"

- New York City, The Cult

I didn't watch a lot of this game. I mostly watched the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes. It looks like that's all I needed to see.

No question about it - the Avs are playing terrible hockey at the moment. The Avs had as many shots (4) as goals allowed in the first period. Awful. If you tuned in a little late to this one, it may well have been over already. 28 seconds in, a combination of terrible defense and poor goaltending combined to give the Rangers a 1-0 lead. Yuck.

Instead of going on about a game I barely watched, I want to talk about leadership. It's really tough for us as fans to evaluate. We're not in the locker rooms and we're not on the ice. We hear stuff about the leadership of, say, a Joe Sakic, but it's tough to evaluate just what each player is contributing in that area, especially when there are so many diverse personalities in a locker room. Perhaps player don't care for Ian Laperriere's happy demeanor as much as we do. Maybe Ryan Smyth's "play for what's on front of the jersey" schtick doesn't play as well to his teammates as it does for Peter McNab. I doubt I'll ever know, but I am certain of one thing: the Avs really have nothing to play for but pride, and those two guys are still in all-out-full-tilt-don't-hold-back-mother-fucker mode. I am guessing they do indeed have the respect of their teammates in the locker room, but even if they do not, they absolutely have my unending respect for the way they have continued to play on the ice.

Some of the other "leaders"? Not so much. Darcy Tucker was supposed to bring "scoring ability and a physical presence up front." He hasn't brought either. We thought maybe there'd be some leadership qualities there as well, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Did anyone catch his interview with Mike Haynes before the game? I'm not sure he made eye contact with either Haynes or the camera one time during the entire interview. Frankly, he came across like a guy who knows his time with this team is just about up...and that separation can't come soon enough for him (or me, for that matter).

A long-time leader of the Avalanche is Adam Foote, who returned just over a year ago and was, in my opinion, the single biggest reason behind the Avs win over the Wild in the 1st round of the playoffs. But he has been inconsistent at best this year and, frankly, comes across far too often of late as a guy just punching a time clock to collect a paycheck. Footer, one of our alternate captains, came on to the ice immediately following that dreadful first goal. The Avs were in desperate need of someone to calm them down, and who better than our veteran defensive stalwart? Well, if you were to base your opinion on that shift, the answer would be "pretty much anyone". Foote was awful. He first got caught down low along the sideboards. As he was chasing down someone for a hit, the play went the other way, leaving Chris Stewart to get back on defense. Foote gets back, but gets knocked off the puck by Nikolai Zherdev and turns it over. He gets a chance to redeem himself as the play continues, but Lauri Korpikoski simply outhustles him to a loose puck in the corner. Finally, after Korpikoski threw the puck in front of the net, Foote moved way out of position to lay on a check. He was behind the net on the wrong side of the ice when Zherdev scored to make it 2-0. While they still had to play the remaining 58:57 to make it official, this game was over and that was the winning goal. While we can't tell who is leading off ice, we can sure see who is setting an example on the ice, and that shift was not awe-inspiring at all.

The madcap hijincks at the end of the game was entertaining, overdue, scary and somewhat sad all at the same time. It started (well, officially, anyway) with a Cody McCormick cross-check to the face of Fredrick Sjostrom. From there, it degenerated quickly with numerous fights and ejections - if my tally is right, 9 players finished the game in the dressing room. The highlight was probably Laperriere beating Brandon Dubinsky (I think) with his elbow pad. The lowlight was probably Tucker getting tossed easily to the ice by Paul Mara. Unquestionably, the Avs are a frustrated team right now and all that craziness is the result.

Lines

I don't have the report done. Willsie and Tjarnqvist were scratched and Hensick was sent down for a 2-game conditioning assignment. Liles returned from injury and Svatos and Arnason returned from the press box.

Quick Hits

  • Smyth, Stastny and Hejduk accounted for 13 of the Avs' 24 shots.
  • Smyth and my scapegoat Adam Foote each led the Avs with 4 hits.
  • After winning their first 8 Saturday games of the season, the Avs have lost their last three Saturday games.

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It's the last Avalanche game before the deadline and also the end of the worst road trip of all time (unofficially): the Avs are in Long Island on Monday to take on the lowly Islanders.

Other Recaps

"When we don't come out and dictate the pace, and (don't) come out and be physical early in games, and get on our heels, that's what happens to us," Granato said. "They came flying, but we didn't do anything to respond to it." - Terry Frei, Denver Post

Since Feb. 13, a span of eight games, the goal-challenged Rangers hadn't scored more than twice in regulation in eight games. - Steve Zipay, Newsday.com


Tortorella, who took over Monday for the fired Tom Renney, dropped a pair of 2-1 decisions before seeing his aggressive style produce the Rangers' highest scoring output this season. - AP

Mara's fight closed the card that included three pervious melees and/or fights within a span of three minutes as the game wound down. Plus, Schoenfeld screamed from the bench at Ian Laperriere in what most would consider a breach of conduct. - Larry Brooks, NY Post

I'm leaving after two periods of this slaughtering to go see a Clippers game. That's how bad this team is right now. I would rather watch the Los Angeles Clippers. Au revoir. - Adam Hersh, An Avalanche of Thoughts

Of course, the skeptics will note that the Avalanche is a team in such distress that a few hundred snowplows could not shovel away all their troubles. But what really matters is that Torts' lads immediately went for the jugular early in the first period —  didn't have any goals disallowed for questionable high stcks — and never let up against a team that HAD to be vanquished. - Stan Fishler, Game On!

In practice on Friday, interim assistant coach Jim Schoenfeld took half the team onto the ice for some odd-looking drills, one of which consisted of backup goalie Steve Valiquette lying on his side while players tried to score over top of him, and some players putting their head against the ice in order to see what the puck sees. The idea was to give the Rangers, mired for a month in a painful and persistent scoring slump, some new angles to think about. Those drills also turned out to be ideal preparation for the Colorado Avalanche, whose goalies may as well have been lying on their side Saturday night as the Rangers scored from just about every angle there is. - Michael Obernauer, NY Daily News

In this economy, the Avs may be as stuck with a couple of contracts like the Federal Reserve is stuck with a whole lot of sub-prime mortgages right now. Brett Clark is proving very difficult to move. He’s finishing up an awful season offensively, and he’s making $3.5 million this year and next. With many teams very worried about their economic situations going forward, Brett Clark just is not a good sell to NHL owners right now. - Adrian Dater, All Things Avs

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I’m only going to disagree with one part of this one. Adam Foote was not the “single biggest reason” the Avs beat the Wild in round 1 last year. Number 60 was…

I know a lot of people don’t like to admit things like that, but without him between the pipes, the Avs didn’t make it into the next round slaughter against the Wings

by chiavsfan on Mar 1, 2009 10:29 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

once again, if the defense wasnt good, who knows how theo would have fared in that series?

but, all in all, i agree with you… theo was outstanding in that series, and altho I don’t specifically remember much of footer’s play, I am sure he had an impact too.

It just brings to mind a team whos decent defense and decent goaltending worked together to get to the playoffs. it makes me sad.

awaiting/fearing the trade deadline....

by mfured20 on Mar 1, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I do think Theodore was excellent, and I can certainly understand a case being made for him. I’ll still stand by my hyperbole about Foote.

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 1, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

footer was awesome last year. this year? not so much.

by thedoctor on Mar 1, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well guys, after the burning barn finally collapses, whos going to lead us out of the ashes?

if smytty and lappy get moved, there will be no one. besides joe, and the problem is that he can’t lead by example right now. stats has to step up and earn some of that salary… it pays for more than just a point a game.

the fights didnt bother me last night. its what the fights represented: a team in last place getting its ass handed to them, and instead of coming back with some self-esteem goals they come out with fists cocked. the last refuge of a desperate man.

awaiting/fearing the trade deadline....

by mfured20 on Mar 1, 2009 10:45 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Since I'm tired this morning I'l let some one else's words speak for me

Surprisingly enough this comes from a poster on Dater’s blog….

Goal 1. Budaj stays with the puck on the 2 on1, the man passes the puck to the open Callahan, and Budaj gets beat. Who is trailing the guy who scored? The $4.5 million man, Hannan. Who’s out of position? Hannan. Budaj gets blamed. I blame Hannan and Clark.

Goal 2. Foote’s man centers the puck from behind the net. Zherdev shoots, the puck bounces off Budaj, who has his face buried in Wolski’s chest, the puck hits Salei’s skate and there’s another goal. Budaj gets blamed. I blame Wolski, Salei, and Hannan.

Goal 3. Another pass from behind the net with Hannan AND Arny covering the man. Clark’s man between him and the net, and another goal. Budaj gets blamed and pulled. I blame Clark.

I’ve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, Clark just made Number 2 on my D-man **it list.

Goal 4. Leopold chase the man with the puck. The man passes the puck to the point. Naslund drops down to the net. Liles has two men to play and backs off to cover 91. So does Raycroft, leaving an open net. Too bad the pass goes to then uncovered Gomez, who gets the tip. I blame Raycroft, with an assist by Leopold.

Goal 5. PP due to 55. 5 on 3 due to an unnecessary cross-check behind the play. Lappy, Hannan, Clark and Raycroft on the ice. Poor Lappy. Raycroft leaves the net open for a pass to Drury for an easy goal, beating Clark.

Goal 6. The Avs only highlight of the night. Smyth makes a great break-away goal. He’s a keeper.

Goal 7. Naslund snaps one off while Zherdev leaps in front of Raycroft. It hits the far post and the bleeding will finally stop. Of course, Raycroft is out of the crease, leaving a wide open net had there been a rebound.

but once again the mindless masses scapegoat the goalies when it’s clear the defense is lacking.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 1, 2009 11:55 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

the genius who wrote that

Blames hannan for goal 2 even though it’s salei and foote who screwed up. He just wants to blame hannan for everything.

by c6hor8 on Mar 1, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

People are seeing poor defense and big contracts and blaming defenders. I don’t think Hannan has been nearly as bad as others do. I think the defensive coaching staff is to blame for a lot of it..

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Mar 1, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked it

just because there are a few people outside of MHH who are finally starting to see that the blame isn’t all the goalies. That the defense is just as much to blame, if not more in some instances. And, yes I think some of the defense’s issues has to do with the coaching…
On goal #2 he probably meant Foote instead of Hannan…it was interesting that Wolski was included there, I’d missed seeing who the forward in front was.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 1, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At least Hannan's been consistent

Consistently terrible in Colorado, that is. Since the coaching staff changed from last year to this year, whose fault is Hannan’s consistenly shitty/minus/turnover-prone performance? Is it Cloutier, is that what you mean by “defensive coaching staff?” If that’s the case, then how was Foote able to overcome the crappy coaching all those years? Is he that much better than Hannan? Did Cloutier change systems in his time here? Did he become a worse defensive coach? How were Greg deVries, Jon Klemm, and Aaron Miller (among others) able to have pretty decent years here in Colorado with only average-average plus individual talent?

Hannan’s not physical – OK, he never really was, I guess that was my delusion (career-high 61 PIM, a Lady Byng-worthy 22 PIM this season. But he had 55 last year. Seems like he doesn’t really give a fuck at this point.) He’s not big. He’s not strong. He’s not fast – in fact, he skates like he needs to take a dump. He can’t move the puck out of his own zone – almost always results in a turnover, or he panics, tosses the puck to his defensive partner, and makes him move the puck. He’s minus fucking 10. He’s the Canadian Karlis Skrastins ($2.4 million/year, btw), except worse. He has the best agent in the world. He’s a $4.5 million cap hit until the 2010-2011 season, and if his career is in this state of decline at age 30, I can’t wait to see how shitty he is at the end of that terrible contract. He’s untradeable, and he’s stuck on a crappy team during the “prime” of his career.

by Dan Winkler on Mar 1, 2009 4:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hannan

I don’t think Hannan’s been nearly as bad as you make him sound. His GA/60 is only (barely) worse than Foote and Clark’s except his quality of competition is tougher than both of them too. Individual ± is the most useless stat in all of professional sports (even more so than RBIs in baseball and pitcher wins) and using it as a barometer of individual play is preposterous.

Scott Hannan is the Avs most positionally sound defenseman, and it’s not even close. You’re right that he’s a turnover machine, especially on clearing attempts, and that’s been my biggest beef with him. But he is a ton better than Karlis Skrastins.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Mar 1, 2009 6:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

…which happens a lot with me and Jibbles.

I think Hannan is like the goalies (gets too much of the blame because of his salary). Could he be better? Yes, of course. But compared to Clark and IMO Salei, he has been decent.

by InYoFace on Mar 1, 2009 10:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We'll disagree

Two recent examples of Hannan’s positional soundness:

-1st goal against the Rangers, a goal so bad that Granato and McNab both called it out as a shitty play by the defense.

-game winning goal against the Canadians on Feb. 13th where Kostitsyn got behind Hannan and the pass got lobbed over his head for the breakaway winner.

At $4.5 million/year (he’s got the best agent in the world) he’s not a “ton” better than Skrastins. Not in general, and certainly not this season. This season he’s worse than Skrastins.

Don’t know about “other” hockey stats, yet. I’ve checked out those stats and it’s not like there’s some clearcut concensus that it’s the OBP of hockey. I think it’s pretty muddled still. Hannan’s GA/60 iss barely worse than Foote and Clark (wait – Clark?? Who most people acknowledge has been terrible this year? Is this a stat we can trust?). It’s also barely better than Liles and Salei. So what?

No one will take him and his contract (he’s got the best agent in the world), so we’re stuck with him. Guess we’ll have the next 2 seasons to evaluate him even more.

by Dan Winkler on Mar 2, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Hannan has been pedestrian at best. The problem with Hannan isn’t Hannan, he is what he is. The problem is that mangement paid top dollar for him. Can anyone honestly admit that he’s better than Kurt Sauer? I can’t say that.

by Dario on Mar 2, 2009 8:11 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i’d rather have Sauer @ 1.75m :(

by thedoctor on Mar 2, 2009 9:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting this

because I don’t go over to Dater’s blog any longer, and now that there is no RMN, I will be counting on MHH to provide me with intelligent, informed analyses of what is going on in hockeyland (which is why I ended up here to begin with). There is no point in educating those idiots, but I am glad you shared it with me, because I enjoyed the post and needed to read it to reaffirm what I already knew: more screw-ups by the defense.

I read that the Rangers studied video of the Avs. What did they learn: the Avs’ defense has no freaking clue what it is doing (not so much Liles). Sooooo, all you have to do is steamroll over them as soon as the puck drops. They will run around like of bunch of Keystone Cops leaving Budaj hung out to dry. Once the team is down by a couple of goals, they will “fold like origami” (accordig to Ben from Portand).

I am all for bringing in Harding. Let’s do it yesterday. Trade Budaj and whatever else to the Wild for Harding. I know who will get the sweet end of that deal. Harding will have a slight adjustment to make, what with expecting actual defense and coaching. I think in honor of his joining the team, they should have a shooting gallery duck painted on his helmet.

I think the funniest quote from the thread was from Texacogirl’s niece: “after this the Avs won’t even be in the NHL anymore.” That’s right, as the Soup Nazi would say, “No NHL for You!”

I think the two luckiest players this season are Jones and Cumisky. Their injuries were probably the best thing that could have happened to each of them. They are like the two lucky survivors who ducked into the fallout shelter just before the nuclear holocaust hit. Yep, what was supposed to be such a career-making year for everyone has turned into a career-breaking year.

Well, I am off to study up on my Spanish, in anticipation of welcoming that wonderful Mexican hockey player to the team.

Adios!

Avs. Sticking it to the Red Wings

by hockeymom on Mar 1, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

My niece was dishing it out last night for sure. I, on the other hand, vote for your slumpbuster song as the best quote if the night.

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Mar 1, 2009 3:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I will be counting on MHH to provide me with intelligent, informed analyses of what is going on in hockeyland

 I don’t know how to tell you this, but “intelligent” and “informed” may be two of the worst adjectives for MHH. I personally would have gone with “developmentally challenged” and “bullshit artists” and I work here!!

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Mar 1, 2009 8:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

me drools

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 2, 2009 6:22 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He has some points

But Budaj was slightly to blame on the third goal (I agree the first goal wasn’t his fault, despite DD saying he played it poorly).

The 4th goal was a tip by a wide open Gomez.. don’t blame Raycroft. In fact There’s not much either goalie was going to do last night

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Mar 1, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Budaj does deserve some of the blame on the third score, no doubt.
The 4th, I don’t blame Raycroft either, but he’s not absolved either. Like Budaj’s 3rd, I think he could have made the save, but it was a tough one.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 1, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Senver sports isn’t so hot right now.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Mar 1, 2009 3:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

There's something in the air.

Avs may trade Lappy, Broncos entertained the idea of trading Cutler, Rockies traded Holliday a few months ago. Denver sports business model: Piss of the customers = $$$?

by InYoFace on Mar 1, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

watching "Miracle" as I read this recap

and cant help but think the leadership problems start with granato. unlike herb brooks, he does not have the “start kicking ass out there or i’m going to kick your effing ass” attitude. well at least not on the ice; like you said, we’ve no idea what’s going on in the locker room. many heads should roll, starting at the top. until that happens, this team will simply not improve.

I want more cowbell!

by BeachNSnowGirl on Mar 1, 2009 6:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wan't it Brooks

in that movie, where he runs the players through a hell of a practice, and then one of his assistants says something about all the players hating him. His reply was something along the lines of “At least they’re doing it as a team”. (I’m going to have to watch it now).

We keep hearing that Granato is a nice guy, he’s a friend of the players, maybe that in of itself is the problem.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 1, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Player's coaches

often make great Assistant Coaches.

Avs. Sticking it to the Red Wings

by hockeymom on Mar 1, 2009 8:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It was more along the lines of “Maybe they’ll be too busy hating him to hate each other” It was when Doc Nagobads and Craig Patrick are sitting in the car waiting to fill it up.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads divurged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Mar 1, 2009 10:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OK.

but the idea is the same…..you know, now that I think of it, I think a similar line was used in “Remember the Titans”.
Funny how those two things worked out, isn’t it. Both coaches were dealing with “team” issues. Made themselves the focus of the players hatred and brought the players together as a team (whether by design or accident). Just goes to show you don’t have to be loved as a coach, just respected.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 2, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re forgetting one important thing in both of those examples: the coach had a plan. We have yet to see anything resembling a plan by this coaching staff.

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Mar 2, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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