NHL Draft Lottery, Preview And Open Thread
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 4:00 PM MDT
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The Scotiabank/NHL Draft Lottery, to determine the order of selection for the first 14 picks of the first round of the 2009 Entry Draft, will take place on Tuesday, April 14th. The result of the drawing, will be announced at 8:00 p.m., ET on TSN (Canada) and Versus (U.S.) as part of a 30-minute live Draft special from TSN's studios in Toronto. The Draft special will also be streamed live on NHL.com.
Versus is delaying World Extreme Cagefighting to show the lottery, so you know it's a big deal. I'm working, but I'll have my laptop with me to hopefully follow along with the live stream (I'm a BIG fan of probability charts).
Tonight, the Avs have a 14.2% chance of landing the 1st overall pick. They also have a 29.7% chance of sliding down one spot (if Atlanta, LA, Phoenix, Toronto or Dallas "wins" the lottery). In other words, you have a 56.1% chance of watching this show for no reason whatsoever.
No matter what happens, the Avalanche will have their first top 10 pick since 1993 (Jocelyn Thibault) and their first top 5 pick since 1992 (Todd Warriner). I thought that seemed like a long drought, but the Calgary Flames apparently haven't had a top 5 pick since 19freaking73 (Tom Lysiak), although they've had a number of fairly recent top 10s (Phaneuf, for example).
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Open thread? Really?
Are you expecting people to be saying stuff like “Woo! First ball drawn is a 3! Lets go for a 1!”
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
of course I am!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because TSN pushed for it?
…and Canada trumps the US when it comes to exposure?
The Raw Charge -- the Tampa Bay Lightning weblog at SB Nation.
by John Fontana on Apr 14, 2009 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t listen to Drakenlot. He’s a Draft Lottery Scrooge.
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
2 hrs away ?
Please correct me, but am I right in thinking its still 2 hours to go? Im out of practice at converting my BST to EST
65 minutes
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions
NHL.com is kind of a mess right now. I wonder if I’ll even be able to find the feed
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Another date with Dater?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions
But isn’t life a drinking game?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just saw this comment
I love this idea.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
another campaign:
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2009/4/14/837742/please-dont-be-colorado
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Too bad for the Nucks
that Galiardi may already be the next Nuck Killer. He played three games against them this season and scored three goals….and that’s when we were “tanking”.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Apr 14, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Quick!
In the worst season since the Avalanche became the Avalanche, you have to pick: John Tavares or 3-1 record against the Red Wings. What’s the pick?
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:23 PM MDT reply actions
wtf are you trying to do?
Jinx us? We will get both, of course.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions
See.
I didn’t have an answer either.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmm
This is like the Bizarro GM poll DD put up the other day.
But I’ll take Tavares
“Oh, Tavares, I wanted to beat the Red Wings.
With Tavares, you can beat the Red Wings multiple times"
“Please explain”
“Tavares can be used to endlessly torture the Wings, as he is a stud and will score a lot of goals”
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 14, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll let the Deadthings sweep us in the regular season
So long as Johnny T helps us return the favor in the playoffs!!!
Good one jib.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Actual conversation I just had
Girlfriend: “your going to watch the NHL draft lottery?”
Me: “Yes.”
Girlfriend: “You officially have no life.”
Me: “I bought beer for it too!!!”
Hey
At least you have a girlfriend with your lack of life. Some of us without a life don’t even have that.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry
all of mine are gold medals- I don’t technically have any blue ribbons. I was just having a savage moment.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Cocoa Porter deserves all the gold metals in the world.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Thank you. The funny thing is, CP is one of like 2 beers we have that has never won any awards. But we sell the shit out of it, so thank you. Everything else has gotten at least one award from somebody, but not one of our most popular seasonal beers ever. Go figure.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Nice
In the future I would appreciate any Savage moments to be done in the following ways
The Savage moment
Savage moment, or
SAVAGE moment.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
If I was the first to call you “the” Savage, I’ll do it any way I please, since I have creative license and all…. You may have noticed that I have issues with capitalization, but I’ll try.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Creative licence, along with grammar and spelling, has no place in my kingdom, just like science has no place in religion.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
You might be mixed up. Its religion that has no place in science.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
and dubya had no place being in the Oval Office, but I digress towards the politial ban hammer again.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 16, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
W
If Eric LaCroix is the next Avs GM, I’m instantly calling him W, thereby risking the banhammer.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 16, 2009 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I was worried where you were going with that comment
up until “beer.”
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa.
There is a bad omen on the front page of TSN’s hockey section.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:36 PM MDT reply actions
It's a bad omen!
If I put it here, BiB might kill me.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I see BIB more likely going homicidal after a headline like
“Pierre Lacroix trades 1st overall pick to the Red Wings for Darren McCarty”
(Note to lurkers, its just a joke. Put the knife down.)
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11794
MacKenzie’s chat link is a good read while you wait. he talks about Duchene towards the very end.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
That was interesting. A rock solid number 3 now. And one scout has him at 2 ahead of Hedman. The Avs will probably trade him for more grit.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Suspense
If the NHL really wanted to create suspense on who’s winning the Draft Lottery… They would just let Mats Sundin decide
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 14, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions
I’m not sure that we are in any position to make fun of Sundin cough Forsberg cough
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I would think
the main difference between the two is that Forsberg is always deciding to put his body through the rigors of dealing with constant Richard Matvichuk-like cheap shots and playing on two ankles that were built for a professional couch potato and Sundin was just trying to decide if he wanted to play anymore.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions
All this talk
about how only 4 times in 13 tries has the team with the worst record actually gotten the first pick is making me nervous. I talked myself into being okay with the third pick, but suffering through this shitty ass season has been okay ONLY for a top pick. For some reason, picking 4th would make me feel like I’ve really lost out on something.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions
So
Is there anywhere I can watch this thing online?
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:44 PM MDT reply actions
supposedly NHL.com
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m on there right now, but not finding anything. I’m sort of freaking out because of it.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, I can’t find it either. it’s quite the cluster fuck right now
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions
?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
sorry, a mean joke
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
sorry, a mean lame joke
fixed
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions
agreed
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Damn!
That would have been so much better!
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions
nothing
I just made it up. That is what I would use if I were webcasting the damn thing.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions
who also reply failed
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
He reminds me of Michael Phelps
in that he’s great at what he does, but he can’t talk about it to save his life.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m not sure I would have sounded much better at that age.
I’m not sure I sound much better now.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Not finding anything.
Getting annoyed.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Gaaahhhh
must leave, but i’m too interested here. Are they going through 25 minutes of talk.. or actually pulling numbers now?
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 14, 2009 6:01 PM MDT reply actions
it's up
click the “watch the show” link on the front page
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:02 PM MDT reply actions
I don’t see Pierre McGuire anywhere!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
NHL.com
but it’s TSN feed
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions
cool
gracias, ddc
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions
The online feed
is ahead of the Versus feed. This makes me laugh.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:05 PM MDT reply actions
Yes
I’m watching it in multiple places. We need all the good luck we can get.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Craig Billington is there!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
I think this speaks volumes honestly… maybe not though.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 14, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions
actually, looks like they have all 5 teams represented
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions
This is embarrassing.
This is a night of excitement about the future of our franchises, and we just fired our GM. Gaaah.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:08 PM MDT reply actions
Those two things kinda go hand in hand this season
Sad, yes, but kinda hopeful ;)
In protest of adulthood
Seems like most of the guys were assistant GMs and such so, no big deal, IMO.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Well
I’m talking about them actually being like “You guys just fired your GM yesterday! Yaaay!”
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions
no “how come you didn’t can the fucking coach as well” though
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions
That would have been my question.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions
To be fair, though
I don’t think I would want to ask Billington that question.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Ugh.
If he stays on, I’m going to be so pissed off. PL has such a weird fascination with keeping Granato around. I just don’t get it.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Think wide mouthed goats.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions
So
Are they going to wait until the last 10 seconds of the show to actually draw the lottery numbers?
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
you must be new here
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Tavares and Hedman getting interviewed
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:15 PM MDT reply actions
Tavares is very humble.
"I can't hear Jeremy because I have my 2 Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears!" -Patrick Roy
I agree
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Hedman says he wants to play in NHL next year
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Weel, after all my talk of it being boring
I’m here, watching it on NHL.com
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
good thing we made this game thread!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Really showss how boring some of the games were
In that this thread has more comments than most game threads.
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
moments away
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:18 PM MDT reply actions
didn’t fall to 4
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:19 PM MDT reply actions
zzz
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:19 PM MDT reply actions
no changes in the top 5. AWESOME!
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions
nope. NY won
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Ok? OK?
I’m so damn glad we have him, he a god damn Avs fan.
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
Congratulations, Colorado Avalanche. You are still in the running to become America’s Next Top Model.
by Where is Bob Hartley? on Apr 14, 2009 6:21 PM MDT reply actions
McKenzie's Duchene comments
From Jassi Bedi: As it stands, the Avalanche are slated to draft Matt Duchene. What do the scouts think of him?
Bob McKenzie: Jassi, the scouts love everything about Duchene. They like his size, strength, speed, skill and smarts. They see him as a character player, as someone who can score goals, make plays and work as hard without the puck as with it. There’s nothing not to like about the Brampton Battalion forward. Tavares and Hedman are heavy favorites to go one-two in this draft, but if there’s one player who could upset that scenario, it’s probably Duchene. Not to give it away just yet, but when we release a revised Top 15 draft ranking tonight on the NHL Draft Lottery show on TSN at 8 p.m. eastern, Duchene will be a rock-solid No. 3 but at least one of the 10 scouts we surveyed had him at No. 2, ahead of Hedman.
In protest of adulthood
Well, in this case, treading water might not be a bad thing.
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
Question
If we draft Matt Duchene, would he play for us right away?
I guess my comments on the draft this morning still stand
all this stuff for absolutely nothing to change
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 14, 2009 6:22 PM MDT reply actions
Not at all.
I was nervous as all hell starting at the 4th pick.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I disagree
We needed someone who can score more than anything
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
I disagree
We need a D-Man that can score.
by Where is Bob Hartley? on Apr 14, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions
They have two of them playing at Boston University. This team has needs everywhere.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully
they only play at BU a maximum of one more season. I’d really love to see them get into pro hockey pretty soon.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
..and Gaunce and Cumiskey.
If anything the Avs could use a big, nasty stay at home guy that can skate and lay down some punishment..ALA the anti-Clark.
Or what some of us thought we were getting for the 4.5M per year investment in Hannan?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Duchene….come on down!!! I’m so pumped!
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:24 PM MDT reply actions
I wish I new what number he was going to wear so I could be an Avs jersey with his name and number on it!
"I can't hear Jeremy because I have my 2 Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears!" -Patrick Roy
He wears #9 with Brampton.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Think he could end up better than Tavares, Jori?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Better all around player? Yes.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
As long as the new GM doesn’t frak it up.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions
hey jori -
how many more games will the kids be able to showcase their talents before draftday?
awaiting the draft...
The Canadian junior teams play deep into May. Right now the U18 tournament is ongoing in Fargo.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Seriously.
I don’t want Evander Kane anymore.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Duchene represents exactly what this team lacks right now, and that is top line talent with ……speed. When Hejduk is your only forward that can make the defensemen back off the blue line you know things on your forward line have slowed down. When Tangauy got traded and Sakic started to slow up the whole makeup of the Avs attack just started to limp along.
I think like the Nuggets with the Melo draft, this protects the Avs from their worst enemy…themselves. I think he’s exactly what the Avs need.
They better not blow this one and from all accounts they seem pretty high on Duchene.
Did you just call Hedman Darko?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
PS: Just kidding of course. And I agree with you. If he is a better skater than Tavares, he may be just what the doctor ordered. Along with a whole shitload of other stuff.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Duchene is definately a better skater, but I don’t think it’s as big of a knock on Tavares as others do.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Apr 14, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't blame you
hospital food sucks. Are you home now?
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Hockey and fishing FTW!!! Now that hockey season is all but over, I know I’ll be gone fishing for the summer. I like this kid.
BTW, great to meet you, Dario.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
How cool is that?
Av jersey on, Roy and Sakic posters up in his room. Talk about growing up right! Hopefully he also hates the Wings.
If I were more savvy I’d take a picture of that frame and post it somewhere so that I could post it here. But I’m not that savvy ….. BUT I’M SURE THAT SOMEONE IS … HINT HINT.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I think jibbles has it up on his site. Maybe he can oblige you.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Great, but who the hell knows where he’ll post it? That king of fail.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha
The guys over at Lighthouse Hockey are ecstatic. I’m happy for them. Good bunch of guys over there.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 14, 2009 6:34 PM MDT reply actions
Yeah, but poor Tavares.
He has to play there. Maybe they’ll trade for a grinder. We’ve got plenty to offer. Oh wait, it’s us that would make that trade.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Unless
Lacroix hires a Voodoo-practicing GM, Tavares is not coming here.
But all we need is a competent GM and we could see some of the baggage the Avs are dragging along leaving.
2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.
Sorry
I meant us trading our pick at #3 for some tucker type douchebag grinder. I’m all for losing the baggage. I think we’ve seen the last of Arny, and maybe someone with brains will make NHL history by buying out a guy (tucker) twice. I really am not liking him. He makes it hard to take the moral high ground when playing douche ridden felch rafts such as Calgary and the Wings
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
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