Final Grade: Francois Giguere
This is the final grade for Francois Giguere. It only covers the period from after the end of the playoffs in 2008 to the end of this season.
Joined Team:
Francois Giguere joined the Avalanche as GM in May of 2006, having previously served as the Dallas Stars' Assistant GM. Giguere had been with the Avalanche (and Nordiques) previously in several different capacities including Assistant GM and Vice President of Hockey Operations/
His Coach:
In early May, Giguere allowed coach Joel Quenneville to walk away from the club after his contract had ended.
That's the good news.
Unfortunately, a few weeks later, without interviewing any of the candidates available on the open market, Giguere announced that he was handing the job back to assistant coach Tony Granato. That's the bad news. While I still suspect the Granato-succeeding-Quenneville deal was put in place back when Granato stepped down, the fact remains that officially the hiring of Granato was Giguere's call. It was a terrible choice and, in my opinion, the single biggest mistake of Giguere's tenure.
Trades: (thanks to AvalancheDB)
- 6/10 - Conditional 2009 7th round pick to Dallas for Marty Sertich
- 6/21 - Brad Richardson to LA for 2008 2nd round pick (Peter Delmas)
- 6/24 - Johnny Boychuk to Boston for Matt Hendricks
- 3/04 - Jordan Leopold to Calgary for Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson and 2009 2nd round pick
Although I am still not a fan of the Boychuk deal (especially considering the fact that Hendricks did not seem to fit in the team's NHL plans), the other deals are all solid. Obtaining a 2nd round pick for Richardson is a steal and a 2nd rounder plus some scrubs for Leopold would seem to be about market value (Brad Stuart was dealt at the previous deadline for a 2nd and 4th).
Still, the bigger issue may be the trades that Giguere did not make. Giguere was unable (or unwilling) to trade some of our over-priced assets like Brett Clark or Darcy Tucker. He also may have been hampered by no-trade clauses in the contracts of Smyth, Hannan, Hejduk, Liles and Foote and he has only himself to blame for that; 4 of those 5 contracts were done under his reign.
Contracts: (again, thanks to AvalancheDB)
Giguere's biggest moves came just days before the start of free agency when he managed to lock up both John-Michael Liles and Adam Foote to relatively cap-friendly deals ($4.2m and $3m respectively). It had been thought that he would only be able to retain one (likely Foote) and being able to retain Liles was a significant coup. Unfortunately, the signings all but guaranteed the departure of Kurt Sauer and Jeff Finger, both of whom left for better playing time (and, in the case of Finger, a LOT of money).
Free agency, however, was a disappointment. Giguere opted to let Andrew Brunette walk away to Minnesota. While that may have been a fiscally responsible move, the signing of Darcy Tucker at $2.25M for two years was anything but. Tucker was coming off a disappointing season in Toronto (he was available because the Leafs bought out his contract), did not match the "uptempo" style that Giguere stated he was looking for. Tucker bombed in Denver and is still locked up for another year.
One non-move that worked out - rejecting Jose Theodore's exorbitant demands. While the Avalanche struggled between the pipes this year, Theodore was no better than Peter Budaj despite the $3.8 million difference in salaries.
Giguere also made some good sub-million depth-signings - Andrew Raycroft, Daniel Tjarnqvist, Brian Willsie as well as bringing in depth for Lake Erie (Aaron MacKenzie, Chris Durno, etc). For the 2nd straight year, Giguere made a move to bring over an intriguing European player in Per Ledin. For the 2nd straight year, that didn't really pan out, but it definitely was worth the attempt.
Finally, Giguere locked up Paul Stastny to a 5-year, $6.6 million contract. While it's certainly not under market value, it's a fair price, isn't one of those ridiculous 12-year deals and, for a change, doesn't include a NTC. Lots of NHL GMs are setting their franchises up for some tough times down the road with extensions to franchise players. Thankfully, Giguere did not leave us with a similar parting gift.
Draft:
The Avalanche had no 1st-round or 3rd round picks last summer due to the Foote & Salei deadline deals a few months before, leaving Cameron Gaunce and Peter Delmas as the only top-100 picks. Obviously, it's far too early to evaluate this draft, but, in general, Giguere has overseen solid drafts during his tenure.
Personnel Moves:
This is an area where there was some minor head-scratching. Obviously, the Avalanche needed to recall a lot of players from Lake Erie to fill injury voids. However, with a lot of the recalls - especially those for a short duration - it seemed like the team was making a concerted effort to give everyone a turn instead of calling up the player who was most ready or best fit the Avs' needs. So, while just about every Monster defensemen seeemed to get a try, Per Ledin famously languished for almost the entire season in Lake Erie before finally getting a token call-up with 3 games left in the season. Neither Jason Bacashihua or Tyler Weiman earned a promotion despite excellent seasons from both.
Overview:
Personally, I think Giguere had a better season than many people think. He made a few mistakes and may have been a little too tentative to shake up the roster, but it's hard to find fault with many of the moves he made outside of the Tucker signing and, of course, the hiring of Tony Granato. Giguere does lose marks for expressing a desire to play an uptempo game and then failing to add a single player capable of facilitating this play.
Last fall, I stated that I felt this team was capable of going deep in the playoffs. Whether it was bad coaching or the injuries or some other factor I'm missing, I still believe that statement was correct. It didn't work out as we'd hope, but this team is not as hopeless as it looked on the ice this season.
Outlook:
Giguere, of course, was fired just one day after the season ended. I felt the Avalanche needed to make a major shake-up with the front office and so the Giguere firing was not surprising, although it may have been a little unfair. What is surprising, though, is that Giguere, to date, is the only casualty. That is, in a word, fuckingridiculous.
While the Avalanche are not in stellar shape cap-wise this summer, they are not in as much of a bind as some people are claiming (and they are in MUCH better shape than when he inherited the team). If the Avs are hamstrung by anything, it's by the no-trade clauses Giguere has agreed to, but those are not insurmountable obstacles. The roster is going to need some work, but a wholesale gutting is not required.
Next Up:
Tony Granato on Tuesday
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And the Salei deal,.
Kinda strange you forgot them, because you mention them a couple paragraphs lower.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 27, 2009 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions
they both happened the previous year
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 27, 2009 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions
I see
This is the final grade for Francois Giguere. It only covers the period from after the end of the playoffs in 2008 to the end of this season.
it would have helped had I read the first sentence.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 27, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah, kind of clunky. he’ll be the only one that really applies to, since Granato has only been here a year (in current capacity) and the 1-season thing is logical for the players
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 27, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Overall I feel Giguere did quite a bit better than a C+, but for this last season the grade seems about right.
I was a big fan of the Salei and Foote deals and really like how he kept Liles, Wolski and Stastny.
He really failed to step it up during the trade deadline, but that was most likely because he felt this team had enough quality for TG to make the play-offs and maybe wanted to show the world that TG was underperforming. If so, that plan backfired horribly and landed us most likely one of the best 3rd overall picks in recent NHL history (Taves, Gabby and Bouwmeester being the others).
I’m sdfc to see him go
if the Avs had fired both Granato and Giguere, I would have accepted it as just part of the housecleaning.
that Giguere got canned but not Granato is simply inconceivable to me. and honestly…oh, hell, I’ll save it for tomorrow.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
spot on
This is exactly how I feel. he did not do a bad job, just not a stellar job. certainly better than ‘average’.
and i agree that keeping TG after sacking FG is unfuckingbelievable.
Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...
Unfuckingbelievable…is all I can say for the Granato move alone, which should maybe change the + to a -
slack cutting
I actually am going to cut him some slack for this one. Not because it wasn’t single-handily the worst coaching hire in Denver sports history, but because I think PL made him hire Granato, and he didn’t have much of a choice in the matter.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 27, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly how I see it.
I don’t blame FG for hiring Granato. I blame PL, and then I blame PL for essentially scapegoating Giguere. Yes, the Raycroft and Tucker signings were bad, as was letting Brunette walk, but I think overall he’s been a good GM and I still have a slight issue with his firing.
I voted “Too Low” because it made me think of Troy Tulowitzki and because I thought he should have gotten a B-.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 27, 2009 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions
if it helps, I wavered a long time between B- and C+. In the end, the fact that Giguere said he brought in Granato to play a more uptempo style, and then brought in Tucker, Parker, Ledin, Hendricks, Willsie and so on knocked him down just enough.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 27, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
The grade thing with me was really just nitpicking in the end, anyway. I still think the Hendricks/Boychuk trade was a good move.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 27, 2009 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions
D-
Tucker, Raycroft, Granato, just to start. Overvaluing that useless Clark, as far as another factor.
Why should we surmise on whether he was Pierre Lacroix’ puppet? The title/job was his and the result/“final grade” is his to own.
Tucker, Raycroft, Granato, just to start. Overvaluing that useless Clark, as far as another factor.
To be fair, this was done 2 seasons ago season when he gave him $3.5M/season.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 27, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
And before Clark was really, really terrible.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 27, 2009 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope
In my opinion, he’s pretty much always been like this.
by Jibblescribbits on Apr 27, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't always hate him
but I also haven’t gotten to watch 60+ games a year like I did this season for a while, so maybe he has been.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 27, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
But it was FG that resigned Clark at 3.5M/season, right? So what was FG’s grade that year? F+?
I understand DD has decided on set parameters (such as the 1 year period) for grading individual Avs, but when we are talking about the GM who makes moves that have ramifications several years down the road, isn’t it a partial picture of performance?
And Clark has always been bad, except for a 1-2 month window right before he was re-signed.
the GM and coach grades is new for me. realistically, I should have been grading Giguere all along (although, you may recall I was in favor of the Clark extension, so I’m not sure that would have helped).
GMs are hard – for example, it’s still too early to evaluate any of Giguere’s drafts. But I like having them – at the very least, it gives us a spring board for debates.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 27, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I hear you, and I’m not sure what the answer is. I would add a component that allows for factoring in previous years’ moves, if they impact the year in question. I would be happy taking into consideration FG’s moves from previous years, whether they appear ingenious or crappy, if they impacted the team in the past year. But I totally agree it’s hard.
Good debate though. (And Clark — I equate him with former Avalanche Nolan Pratt as far as uselessness. That ranks below Arny and Tucker in my book, if you can believe it).
Nolan Pratt?
Come on, Clark’s not that bad, not nearly that bad. I was gonna stay out of this whole thing (except I wholeheartedly disagree about the FG/Granato thing – no coach could have won with this shiity roster), but, really, comparing any Avs’ defenseman to Nolan Pratt is a low blow. Unless it’s Scott Hannan.
by Dan Winkler on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions

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