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Final Grade: Tony Granato

Joined Team: Tony Granato has been with the Colorado Avalanche as either a coach or an assistant coach since the 2002-2003 season. He was named head coach (again) last May. D_medium

Disclaimer: Of all the grades I'm going to do this year, evaluating a coach is the one that I am least qualified to do. I'm no hockey genius to begin with, but I can at least see what the players are doing on the ice. For the sake of completeness, I'm going to give it that old college-dropout try just the same.

Also, Granato does not coach alone. Dave Barr and Jacques Cloutier both stand on the bench during games, for example. Since there's no way to adequately separate coaching responsibilities - and since ultimately Granato is the one responsible for his staff - this grade essentially refers to Granato and his staff.

 

 

Offense:

Simply put...a mammoth failure. The Avalanche were supposed to be an uptempo team. Instead, they were the same dump, chase and cycle bores from the previous season, except not as effective. The Avalanche scored just 190 goals, the 2nd lowest post-lockout effort in the league.


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As you can see, the Avs were well below the league average in scoring. Even last year's anemic offense managed to at least hit the average mark, albeit by a moustache whisker. The Avs rarely had two lines putting pressure on the opposing clubs, and almost never had three. Hell, some nights we didn't have one scoring line, as the club was shut out 12 miserable times.

For whatever reason, the Avs' defensemen rarely joined the rush. John-Michael Liles led the team with 18 even strength points. 43 defensemen (including Keith Ballard, Jeff Finger and Rob Blake) had more EV points.

Defense:

Believe it or not, I don't have as much issue with the defense as others do. I certainly expected a lot more out of this venerable....er, veteran crew, but I thought the defense generally played acceptable. Yes, we can all point to miscues and bad plays, but, on the whole, I think the squad did a good job - not a great job, but a good one. Okay, maybe good is too strong a word. Passable?

As a team, the Avalanche were second in the league in blocked shots. I know there is an argument that that is a detriment to the goaltending at times, but you still have to appreciate that Granato's guys were willing to sacrifice their body so often.

Handling the Goalies:

For the first part of the season, Granato gets high marks for sticking with Peter Budaj. Out of Budaj's first 12 losses, Granato went right back to him for the next start 10 times. That was extremely refreshing after the ridiculous Quenneville carousel we've experienced in recent years.

Sadly, Granato soon began to use the same tactics as the previous regime. Over Budaj's final 17 losses, he was replaced for the next start 12 times. The confidence lost in his young goaltender was visible on the ice far too often during the second half of the season.

Special Teams:

The Avalanche were in the bottom 3rd of the league on both the power play and penalty kill. Although the Avs' 15.7% effeciency represented an improvement over the previous season, the increase was about on par with the increase in PP conversion throughout the league (an increase I can't explain)



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You can't really blame injuries here, as only Joe Sakic and Paul Stastny missed substantial time. The core squad of Milan Hejduk, John-Michael Liles, Ryan Smyth and Wojtek Wolski is a capable group (in theory). The Avalanche managed just 3 goals all season at 5 on 3 (amazingly 3 teams had less than that), so you have to know there's bigger issues here than personnel.

Physicality:

As a player, Granato was a physical player - he has more than 1400 penalty minutes in his career. While we were promised a more uptempo game than we'd seen in the Quenneville era, the roster featured a lot of Granato-esque players, so it wouldn't have been unexpected to see an increase in physical play. Here's a look at the Avs' hit totals over the last few seasons (admitedly, hit totals aren't a perfect number, but it's about all we've got).



Hits_medium

The Avs have been well below the league average every year since the lockout. Granato's club last year was actually the closest the Avs have been to the the middle of the pack since the lockout (15% below the league average), but it's still rather anemic. Had the Avalanche actually played an uptempo game, the lack of hitting wouldn't be an issue. But they didn't, and it is.,

Discipline:

In another separation between Granato the coach and Granato the former player, the Avalanche were one of the more disciplined teams in the league, as only 5 teams had few penalty minutes.

Lines & Personnel:

This is an area where I felt Granato represented a substantial upgrade over Quenneville. Granato did not play mind games with his young players and gave everyone multiple chances with good ice time (not everyone took advantage of those chances, but at least they were there for the taking). The move of Wojtek Wolski to center (and first line center at that) is one that Q would never have made. In general, I felt the lines Granato used were logical. He wasn't afraid to change things up, and didn't spend too much time with experiments that weren't working (Cody McLeod and Tyler Arnason on top lines, for example).

My one criticism was the reluctance to bench Arnason until late in the year and his reliance on Darcy Tucker in critical late-game situations.

Overview:

For whatever reason, Granato 2.0 didn't work for the Avs. The Avalanche lacked any sort of discernable game plan; actually, I wouldn't have minded seeing the Avalanche lose if they were following some sort of master plan that just wasn't quite working. Instead, the Avs were more flailing than failing. I thought it would be tough for the Avs to have even less of an identity than they did under Joel Quenneville, but somehow Granato found a way to do that. It wasn't hard-hitting. It wasn't defensive-minded. It wasn't intimidating, or skilled, or even neutral-zone trappy. It certainly wasn't uptempo. It was just...vanilla. I hate vanilla.

 

Outlook:

Whatever you think of the job Granato did, you have to be shocked that he wasn't let go. A lot of coaches have been fired after much better seasons than Granato had. I am not a fan of change for the sake of change, but if there ever was a time you were going to change your coach to shake things up, this was the time. While the new GM - whoever that is - can still choose to make the move, the opportunity to send a clear message to the fans and the returning players has already passed. Simply put, the delay in making a decision on Granato is a colossal fuck up by the front office and shows that this franchise is still not capable of competing in the new NHL.

I really liked the way Granato handled himself publicly this year. He never pointed fingers or passed the buck - he was honest about the way he and his players performed and that candor is refreshing coming from a coach (and this organization in general). He could have sulked when his team was letting him down, but he never did that.

It is with complete sincerity that I say I believe Tony Granato may one day be a very sucessful coach in the NHL. This just is not the situation where that's going to happen. The circumstances of his demotion / promotion coupled with the lack of a proper candidate search last summer followed by the season from hell is just too much for a coach to overcome. Frankly, Granato needs a fresh start as much as his team does.

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yes, higher
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no, it's about right
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yes, lower
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I think a D is fair. I still just want to know why the Avs thought he could bring an uptempo style, or coach an ENTIRE team once again. His duty under Q was to run the powerplay, and even with a ton of talent, he was an abject failure at that. It showed this year that nothing changed, granted he had the injury problem. That said…even AHL’ers should be able to run a competent LOOKING power play. The Avs did not, and could not.

And even with injuries, Tyler Arnason should have never even sniffed the top line…which is an example of Granato’s “personnel failures.”

Meanwhile (and while I still agree that letting him go was the best move)…Q moves on to the 2nd round of the playoffs

by chiavsfan on Apr 28, 2009 6:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Q moves on to the 2nd round of the playoffs

and McLellan doesn’t.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 28, 2009 6:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sure you would have

But you are just a hater. ;)

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 28, 2009 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

man, that place is pretty wild, no? how about those grade school homophobic insults? I never knew calm, intellectual debate could inspire such abject hate.

I guess people don’t like getting shown they’re illogical. :)

by thedoctor on Apr 28, 2009 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeahhhhh

MHR is insane. I couldn’t believe they thought doc was a troll after Ayers was drafted. If you can sift through all of the ridiculousness, there really is some awesome stuff there.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 28, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, as I keep trying to tell the mods between their denouncing me as a troll for calling this draft bad, it’s a great place full of killer football info thanks to them.

you should check out BiB’s Jonestown post over there, absolutely hilarious.

by thedoctor on Apr 28, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw it

but when I saw like 56 comments, I just figured it was another crazy MHH member stirring the masses. I’ll give it a read through when I get to work later.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 28, 2009 7:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

you seem to be kind of popular over there, doc.

;)

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 29, 2009 6:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

notorious might be a better word…all for saying this draft by the Broncos sucked and supporting my statement when asked.

Now apparently Bob and I are gay together. I had no idea!

by thedoctor on Apr 29, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

ha ha

Dater > BiB

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 29, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m not about to change my sig to “shagging each other one contributor at a time.” That just wouldn’t be right.

MHR is certainly a trip. I can almost guarantee you that the Broncos will finish around 5-11 this season, but you wouldn’t know it by reading that blog. I like the fact that they take a lot of time to support their opinions with data, no matter how hard it flies against conventional wisdom.

I have no idea why doc was attacked like he was a few times. To me it was a little surreal. Like the kids were coming out of the corn.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 29, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Haha

The “LaLa Land” guys over there drive me nuts. It’s awesome to have people who are optimistic and believe in their team, but thinking the team in its current state is going 13-3 is amusing, but not in the good way. In the “all the hard work put in by the people trying to remain realistic is being undone by you guys because you’re so embarrassingly ridiculous at all times” kind of way.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 29, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know

If someone had told me they think the Avs could win the NW at the beginning of the season, it would have been sickening. I wouldn’t believe the denial that person was in…

Oh, right.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 29, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

In all fairness, the whole thing was a crapshoot. A lot of us thought the Wild got worse (they did), the Coyotes were a force to be reckoned with (only for half the season), and Calgary would tank (they eventually did). I definitely did not see the Canucks rising up or Turco being as bad as he was.

Shoulda woulda coulda….. We got draft pick 3!!!!! Positivity!!!!

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Apr 29, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought we could win the NW, too

and for a healthy portion of the season, we were in the thick of it. After the first game of the season, this team looked like it was going to be an offensive force, but it never materialized and the last month of the season was spent getting into prime draft lottery position.

Those guys over at MHR I’m talking about think we’re going 13-3 every season, regardless of what the roster looks like. I would think most realistic optimists wouldn’t go that far.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 29, 2009 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought the NW would be
Colorado
Edmonton
Minnesota
Calgary
Vancouver

I think I missed that by a little bit.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 30, 2009 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Even now

I don’t know what makes Vancouver so solid.

Outside of their goalie standing on his head nearly every night.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 30, 2009 7:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well the Sedins did actually show up this season….

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

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by Americanario on Apr 30, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

another favorite part of the weekend of comedy: when one of the site’s leading contributors said I was over here because I was jealous as an Avs fan of the Bronco’s success in selling out their stadium. O_o

Or the time another leading contributor researched my username decided I was a teenager with dreams of being a doctor, and I needed to be lectured about my bedside manner because I told someone they were wishing and hoping.

by thedoctor on Apr 30, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

that’s beautiful

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 30, 2009 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I’m so glad that I’m going to be able to readily discount your arguments anytime we disagree in the future, I think this has the potential for some really great running jokes.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 30, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

hahaha, I can see it now:

me: we should trade Player X!
Jibble: no, maybe he’ll turn it around?
me: I think he’s had enough chances, time to stop hoping and try Player Y.
Jibble: YOU GODDAMN TEENAGERS HAVE NO CHANCE OF BECOMING DOCTORS WITH THAT KIND OF BEDSIDE MANNER

by thedoctor on Apr 30, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

YOU’RE JUST JEALOUS MY COMMENTS GET MORE RECS THAN YOURS!

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 30, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you should have told him that Dr. House taught you that you don’t need bedside manners if you’re brilliant.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 30, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I tried to help you out

with your post, trying to squash some of the negative outrage and get a REAL discussion going on, which finally happened. I never got around to reading the comments on BiB’s post, but the post itself was hilarious.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 29, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

eh, it’s no biggie. you guys are absolutely right that place isn’t really worth it. Guru banned me last night, then promptly rescinded it when I asked why, and admitted he hadn’t read a word I posted, he just saw people mad at me.

good times.

by thedoctor on Apr 29, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was a regular over there

before that place took off. It used to be an amazing site. Now it’s just…well, you know.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 29, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I stopped going to MHR. Internet comment sites have a critical mass, when the weight of stupidity out shouts the rational. MHR reached that a long time ago.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 28, 2009 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

that’s an interesting viewpoint I’ve never thought of, and it’s absolutely true. And the critical mass level is proportional to the quality of moderation.

by thedoctor on Apr 28, 2009 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

This happens to all message boards/blogs. I wrote sometime at the beginning of this past NHL season that I hoped if MHH got really popular, it wouldn’t go the way of every extremely popular blog and turn into a troll fest. MHR still has lots of great info, but people throw about rec’s and praise for things that really don’t deserve it. It’s an easy crowd to please if you fall in line.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 28, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

RAIDER SuXoR!!111!!11One!!!

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Apr 28, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

i just recently started going to MHR, and there is good info, but after a whole five threads i realized that it was populated by… idiots. not all of them, but enough to make me ignore the comments most of the time.

Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...

by mfured20 on Apr 29, 2009 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading the comments over there. Strangely, I did read the Doc vs. HT thread and I can’t find what the Doc did wrong for the life of me.

I understand that they got an ass-load of trolls since the Jay Cutler thing but they shouldn’t assume anybody they don’t recognize is trolling.

by InYoFace on Apr 29, 2009 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, I tried to explain that a couple times, but oh well. I’m sure they have had their share of trolls for sure, this Cutler saga combined with a strange draft to say the least is bound to bring a lot of goobers out of the woodwork.

wonder what’s going to happen to that team this year? i have a hard time seeing anything but regression for sure, but there’s so many new variables — they could be improved too. It will be interesting to watch.

by thedoctor on Apr 29, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with what you said in your overview. The most frustrating part of this whole season was watching this team play without any sense of purpose. It seemed like there was no game plan, and no preparation for our opponents. I don’t think this started with Granato, but he certainly did nothing to help. None of our coaches since the lockout have been able to install any sort of “system” for our players. It’s painfully obvious in our special teams play, but it’s a problem at even strength as well. The closest we’ve had to a game plan in the last four seasons has been “get out there and block shots”. I’m still waiting for the axe to fall on Granato, but it won’t make much of a difference if his replacement doesn’t bring some sort of system to our locker room. As the Avalanche start to rebuild, game planning is going to be a key piece of our prospects’ development. The worst possible scenario for next year is that we bring in a bunch of young, talented players, and don’t do anything to focus their abiities or teach them how to play in the NHL.

by ledbeter on Apr 28, 2009 9:10 AM MDT reply actions  

And I think part of that falls on the assistant coaches. Neither Q, nor Granato would change those behind the bench with them. Q always had a decent defensive system, but the offense was lacking, especially on the special teams. That was Granato’s job. Now Granato lost the defensive system…thanks Cloutier, and since he was already inept at the offensive side, you have the ugly-ness that ensued.

Q has new assistants in Chicago. The PP has looked great at times, and Chicago has an uptempo system…that can also clamp down defensively.

by chiavsfan on Apr 28, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the injuries really screwed this team. We had possibly our 2 best forwards out for most of the year. I think a D is a lil too harsh for Tony G..

by Avalanche318 on Apr 28, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Disagree…even when everyone was healthy, the team looked lost. In fact, I believe they were MAYBE a .500 team if everyone was healthy.

by chiavsfan on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Quenneville dealt with the injuries of Sakic, Stastny, AND Smyth and got the Ava a 6-seed with a very similar club.

(This is not to say Quenneville should have been coach of this team, but he’s 100x better than Granato)

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 28, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Quenneville dealt with the injuries of Sakic, Stastny, AND Smyth and got the Ava a 6-seed with a very similar club.

That’s what I keep thinking everytime someone mentions injuries.

by c0nquistad0rian on Apr 28, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

you say Avs and not Ava though.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 28, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha, I didn’t catch that. At least it was just a typo and not the faux pas of calling the Avs the Aves. Avs isn’t supposed to sound like Aces. Nor is it synonymous, unfortunately.

by c0nquistad0rian on Apr 28, 2009 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I noticed

but just chalked it up as another “Jibblesism”.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Apr 28, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Injuries always suck

but we sustained FAR fewer injuries than the Islanders and barely finished ahead of them in the standings. What does that say?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 28, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is says we stunk up the NHL this season.

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Apr 28, 2009 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Because it mentioned Hedman? Gets a rec from me as well, if just because it describes my team well, we give up in the third, squandered a 3-2 end of 2nd period to lose 5-3 in our first game(by first game i mean season and actual game for half the team, myself included), solely on the back of me standing on my head and lost 5-3 in our second game after being tied 3-3 at the start of the 3rd, after leading 2-0 at one point early in the game, due to giving up and some ridiculously wierd goals by the other team, plus aPenalty shot goal.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Apr 30, 2009 1:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Actually, yes.

Because of the “lets get hedman” at the end, I rec’d the post. Not to say the post wasn’t rec worthy, as I see 4 other people also gave it a rec, I just wanted to see if anyone would catch onto a Hedman reference and me immediately rec’ing it. Congrats. You win.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 30, 2009 4:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I gave it a rec because I like green

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 30, 2009 6:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

sweet, I need some wins this year. What’d I get, is it good?, or big?, or good and big?

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on May 1, 2009 2:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

You'd like it good and big.

o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 1, 2009 2:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

The league-wide increase in PP efficiency

May simply be due to the fact that faceoffs were in the offending (short-handed) team’s end after every penalty was called. Giving the PP unit the faceoff in the offensive zone to start the PP could be responsible for that 1% increase.

by Naming my first dog Foppa on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks, that’s a great point. it seemed odd that for three years it was almost identical and then jumped this year.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 29, 2009 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh, and welcome to MHH

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 29, 2009 6:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

On a similar note, welcome. Your handle gave me an idea on what I’m going to name the @ MHH dog that me and the Mrs. are getting later this year…

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 29, 2009 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

And what would that be?

And thanks.

by Naming my first dog Foppa on Apr 29, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

my vote: Arnie

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 29, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Poor dog, the whole MHH community would do little more than kick him around.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Apr 29, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m going with obscure Avalanche players with interesting names.

The front runners are Hlinka and Kolesnik.

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by Mike @ MHH on Apr 29, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Laaksonen!
Boughner!

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 29, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

On HF I once read someone named their cat Clawed Le Mieaux. I thought that was pretty creative. If I ever have a cat I’m calling him that. Or Steve French, one of the two.

How about Severyn for obscure Avs?

by chileiceman on Apr 29, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Savage? No one would mess with that dog, unless its a chihuaha or otherwise small useless dog, then you can’t name it after me

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Apr 30, 2009 1:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Naming a chihuahua 'Savage'

Would cause mind****s all over the place.

2008-2009 Avalanche: It's like watching a car crash.

by Drakenlot on Apr 30, 2009 1:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

When you see it....

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 30, 2009 4:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hate chihuahua’s, they don’t shut up. For a tiny dog they have a loud, annoying bark. Untill one of them jumps out of those stupid little purses and bites Paris Hilton or anyother talentless clown who has one they will get no respect from me, them and sausage dogs must be the most useless dogs ever breed and even sausage dogs are good for something, they can be easily made fun of. Chihuahua’s have nothing, NOTHING I say.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on May 1, 2009 2:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tell us how you really feel.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 1, 2009 7:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Chihuahua’s have nothing, NOTHING I say.

Unfortunately they have have their own movie….which I will never watch.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on May 1, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm

here i thought it was the Avs shitty PKing

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 29, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t that be the ultimate metric for your slumpbusters moniker?

The Colorado Avalanche’s penalty-kill unit was wholly responsible for a LEAGUE-WIDE 1% bump in PP effectiveness.

It doesn’t sound that far-fetched when you see it typed out like that.

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Apr 29, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

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