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Hypocritical Aholes

Many of you have heard the buzz about Sid the Kid not shaking everyone's hand after the Stanley Cup final.  A buzz created by the whiniest little ass in NHL history, Kris Draper, and surprisingly fortified by Henrik Zetterberg, who I thought was a pretty decent guy, especially for someone wearing the winged wheel.  For a laughable and completely inane take on the whole thing, you could go to an A2Y post that includes this little gem:

Interesting.  Can anyone recall a single time Kris Draper’s said anything to the media that could be construed as controversial or critical of another player?  Even after his face was ravaged by one of the more cowardly hits in NHL history, Draper said little to nothing.

Draper, who’s never shirked his responsibilities after Wing losses, who’s never said an ill thing about an opponent, who’s respected league wide...is now just making stuff up. Right?

“Nick was waiting and waiting, and Crosby didn’t come over to shake his hand” in the traditional handshake line. He added that, “that’s ridiculous, especially as their captain, and make sure you write that I said that.”

Wow, that is wrong on so many levels.  First and foremost, the author, Bill, is flat out making shit up about Kris Draper so incorrect that it pretty much destroys any credibility he ever may have had as an NHL hockey expert, fan, enthusiast, ... hell, I don't even think he could qualify as anything but a Red Wing puck bunny at this point.  Well Bill, when little Krissy's face was "ravaged," he actually had this to say:

"Look at my face.  I came here to play a hockey game and look at my face."

Subsequent whining in the weeks, months, and many years that followed by Draper and other Wings did fuel one of the most heated rivalries in all of sports.  Something else that caught my attention in Bill's misguided and completely asinine assertions was the "who's respected league wide" part.  Respected for what?  Hitting people from behind?  Is Bill aware that Draper led the league in boarding calls during the 2007-2008 season?  Generally being a dirty little PoS who has his teammates back up his BS because he can't?  I think I've mentioned this before, but I actually heard a St. Louis Blues radio announcer declare that "Draper is a dirty little player." 

For more sane takes on the Crosby non-event/Red Wing whinefest, go here (for a great Draper motivational poster) and here (for the final word) on Pensblog.  Basically, Draper is a whiny little bitch and Lidstrom left the ice before Sid had a chance to shake his hand (they even have time-stamped video proof of this).

Now on to the "hypocritical aholes" part.  Certainly, the Wings, in their storied history, have always managed to honor the code they now choose to whine profusely about, right?  Riiiiiiiiight.  After the Lemieux facial on Draper in 1996, accused RW pedophile Dino Ciccarelli questioned his own handshake with Claude with his famous "I can't believe I shook his freakin' hand" remark.  Following the 1997 RW-Av series, won by Detroit, Darren McCarty, the noble warrior who had cowardly attacked Claude from behind in the March 1997 brawl at the Joe, did refuse to shake Claude's hand.  Heck, even as recently as 2007, Chris Chelios, the fine, upstanding NHL citizen that he is, refused the shake Anaheim player hands after that brutal series won by the Ducks.  So, in short, please just STFU RW players, fans and idiotic bloggers.  You don't have a real issue in the first place, but your own players have more intentionally disrespected the code in the past.        

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i can FEEL your ANG-GAH

by thedoctor on Jun 17, 2009 2:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Not to mention

that I don’t think the Red Wings stayed on the ice to salute their fans, like the Pens did last year when they won on home ice…

And really, is whining to the press without even talking to Crosby about it the classiest way to handle it? If you really honestly had a problem with him not shaking hands wouldn’t the classier way to handle it be to approach him privately in a couple days and say you didn’t appreciate it.

In fact airing a petty grievance in the press is about the least classy way to handle it

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 17, 2009 4:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Good point

Whining to the press certainly only makes those bastards look worse. In everyone’s eyes except for RW fans.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 17, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Seriously

could you ever imagine Joe Sakic whining to the press because someone didn’t shake his hand?

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 17, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

In a word

Nowayinhell. Draper? Hell yes. I’m surprised by Zetterberg, though. Never though of him to be hateworthy enough to be wearing the winged wheel.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 17, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

It amazes me that Marion Hossa was the classiest one when asked about it. Lidstrom’s answer wasn’t too bad, but it was certainly more bitter than I would have thought.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 17, 2009 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tough to be whiny and bitter,

when you’re crying and can’t muster enough anger because you realize you only have yourself to blame.

Get rid of the loser point

08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?

by TheRed on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

This and many other reasons

solidify why I fucking hate the Red Wings and their fans.

by Avalanche318 on Jun 18, 2009 1:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't have saluted the fans

not with their ridiculous booing after the game was ended. I was seriously appalled.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 17, 2009 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

We gave the avs about as nice a salute as we could have considering the season. the can was loud on the last game of the season.

Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...

by mfured20 on Jun 17, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah. The whole 5 of us who were there really caused a ruckus.

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Jun 17, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

well, there were 8 of us, but one didnt cheer and the other two were kids that didnt have quite enough vocal presence to be standouts.

Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...

by mfured20 on Jun 17, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought they were all booing Betman…no?

by From the Point on Jun 17, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had that thought

and even then, it’s completely disrespectful in every regard. There’s a time and a place for your petty bitching, and as some of the Wings fans have figured out, that time is “always”, but that place is “the internets”.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 18, 2009 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

and I guarantee you, had the Wings won, they wouldn’t have booed Betman at all. I think it was a simple matter of the fans taking advantage of an opportunity to show their true classless colors and hide under the guise of “it’s all about Betman” BS.

Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda

by BeachNSnowGirl on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hate Wings fans and their classyness just as much as the next intelligent hockey fan but doesn’t pretty much every arena boo Bettman. I didn’t pay much attention to the booing as I heard them when Bettman was on the ice and assumed that was all they booed.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Jun 19, 2009 1:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I can't look at your face, Kris.


It’s too fuckin’ fucked up.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 17, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh LOL

Rec’d

An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.

by texacogirl on Jun 17, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want to call that number and ask if they have Draper’s teeth!

Get rid of the loser point

08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?

by TheRed on Jun 18, 2009 12:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of all the guys who look pissed off in that picture

Yzerman looks the least bit concerned with what just happened literally right in front of him.

More importantly, I miss those jerseys.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 18, 2009 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

We all miss those jerseys Bubblegum, but we just have to move on and accept their are still great jerseys out there. Like these

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Jun 19, 2009 2:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

how did I miss this yesterday?

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 18, 2009 6:22 AM MDT reply actions  

This post overfloweth with quality.

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 9:14 AM MDT reply actions  

I am honored

That my rant made it to a2y. It warms my wing-hating heart to know that more of the faithfull 19 will read it. Shane, Jibbles and Joe also were cited.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 18, 2009 1:39 PM MDT reply actions  

hyphenated guy also got an honorable mention

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 18, 2009 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

It warms my wing-hating heart to know that more of the faithfull 19 will read it.

You are assuming they can read.

by smoky201 on Jun 18, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Awesome Bobbing

You should be honored. It was an honor to cite your work. It was also an honor to point out why you wrote it, if that was even necessary.

by a2y on Jun 18, 2009 1:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Jib, is that you?

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 18, 2009 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

(see it works well)

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

your first post, and you manage a reply fail. way to fulfill that stereotype there, bucko.

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

"reply fail"

Which stereotype would I fall into for that Doc? I mean, I fit a whole bunch of them: asshole, arrogant Wing fan, foul mouthed Sailor, overall dickhead. But I’m having trouble getting to the one you’re referencing.

by a2y on Jun 18, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

much like your inability to see it in the first place, that would be stupid

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

While you are here, Bill

Just more “facts and data” to dismantle your notion of Draper being a player “who’s respected league wide.” In the most recent ESPN player poll, I stumbled upon this:

QUESTION 4: WHICH PLAYER COMPLAINS THE MOST ON THE ICE?

Crosby• TOP VOTE-GETTER: Sidney Crosby (52%).
• OTHER MENTIONS: Chris Pronger (8%); Sean Avery (7%); Steve Ott (5%); Ryan Getzlaf (4%); Shane Doan (3%); Marc Savard, Darcy Tucker (2%); Todd Bertuzzi, Mike Richards, Kris Draper (1%); 8 players with one vote.

While Sid the Kid won in a landslide, you may notice that Draper, you know Mr. Respected League Wide, was one of only 11 players to get more than one vote. Wow, imagine that.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 18, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is fun!

Leaving the cocoon of your precious 19 to come over here and hang out with us? I understand. We all need a vacation to a place far better than our own sometimes.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 18, 2009 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

1%

My math is weak Bobbing. But how many players were polled and that would equate to how many votes for Draper? 3 maybe? You did better with your original post.

by a2y on Jun 18, 2009 2:09 PM MDT reply actions  

See Doc?

did it again. dammit.

by a2y on Jun 18, 2009 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

yep, you proved you were stupid. congrats, nicely done.

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

(it’s like the Whammy)

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

i can’t wait for you to reply fail with the pic. it’ll be like recursive awesome.

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bettman sucks, the refs were against us. Crosby ate at Gary Bettman’s house the afternoon of game 7 on the grassy knoll outside the Joe. The Red Wings got more powerplays than the Pens during the series, but they should have had more…stupid refs. Damn Crosby forgot to shake hands with the most respected Captain in the league. Stupid back-to-back opening games (even though we won both of them). Injuries, they wouldn’t have beaten us without injuries. Damn Bettman…

Did I pretty much cover the Red Wing faithful since game 7?

by chiavsfan on Jun 18, 2009 3:58 PM MDT reply actions  

Quit trying to take Bill’s job at a2y.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 18, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was trying to sum things up for people who didn’t want to read the other 40 comments

by chiavsfan on Jun 18, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure how I got dragged into this. I can’t even be bothered to post on the site anymore.

Seriously, trying to take me to task for saying my heart is Wing-hating? Really?

There’s no more hate-filled hockey blog on the web than A2Y, but I’m not going to write a post about it as if I’m exposing some deep, secretive hypocrisy on Bill’s part.

Go Avs! Let's get some goals!

by Joe Dunman on Jun 19, 2009 6:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Awesome haiku

rec’d

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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

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