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Final Grade: Ryan Smyth

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GP G A PTS +/- PIM ESG PPG SHG GTG GWG SOG  
1st Half 41 13 16 29 -4 38 7 6 0 0 2 131
2nd Half 36 13 17 30 -11 24 8 4 1 0 1 126
Total 77 26 33 59 -15 62 15 10 1 0 3 257

 

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Final Grade

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2008 Grade

2007 Grade

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Midseason Grade: A-

Final Grade: A-

Joined Team: Signed as a free agent, July 1st, 2007

MHH Nicknames: Smitty, Alice the Goon.

Pos:

  • LW (77)

Lines:

  • 1st (72)
  • 2nd (5)

Linemates:

C:

  • Stastny (37)
  • Wolski (26)
  • Hensick (7)
  • Arnason (5)
  • Sakic (1)

RW:

  • Hejduk (60)
  • Svatos (7)
  • Stewart (5)
  • Willsie (3)
  • Jones (1)
  • Laperriere (1)

Ice Time:*

  • TOT 20:17 (2nd)
  • EV 15:23 (1st)
  • PK :51 (7th)
  • PP 4:01 (2nd)

*Rank is based on total minutes, not average per game.

Best Month: December (14 points in 14 games)

Career Highlights: Smyth didn't set any career highs, but he did score his 300th goal during the season. He is 80 games away from 1,000.

Report: I believe this is the 35th grade I've done this year for a player, so the following sentence is long overdue: Congratulations, Ryan Smyth, you are receiving the highest grade this year with your A-.

Smyth struggled last year with injuries, inconsistency and some clueless line management from Joel Quenneville. He didn't quite have the big rebound I was hoping for, but he did indeed bounce back nicely, tying for the team lead in points, with 59. That's not exactly an Art Ross level for scoring, but scoring points is not the only part of Ryan Smyth's game.

Simply put, Smyth was our most consistent player throughout the season. Night after night, he came ready to work and frequently was our best player on the ice. Sadly, on many of those nights, he failed to register any points, but the work was definitely there. I think by now most people know that Smyth is one of the best players in the league in the crease. I don't think I was aware that he's actually surprisingly adept at working behind the net as well, but that's now apparent too. Although most of his best work is within 10 feet of the boards, he had a couple of big goals from farther out, such as his 300th and that hilarious no-look goal he scored against Phoenix (I think).

Despite the terrific season, there are a couple of negatives to report. Too many dumb penalties would be one. And while Smyth's aggressive forecheck is admirable, his lack of speed burned him when he got stuck going too deep on the play. This was particularly bothersome on the penalty kill; personally, I'd rather see someone else on the ice on such ocassions. Oh, and the "we just play for the logo on the jersey" stuff was cute the first couple of times I heard it, but it started to feel a wee bit contrite after repeated listenings. Are there any other hockey cliches in the well we could add to the repretoire?

Fun Fact: Smyth wears #94 because that is the year he graduated from high school. This has to be the least interesting story behind a jersey number ever.

The Ryan Smyth Drinking Game: Drink when Smyth raises his hands innocently in an effort to avoid a penalty  Drunk potential: Tremendous

What I Said Last Year: "$6.25 million is a lot of money to pay for 37 points, and already there's some grumbling in, um, ‘Lancheland, about his contract. I thought Smyth was a perfect addition to the team and could put up 40 goals in the ugly Avalanche uniform. I still think he can do that.  Smyth has a chance to rebound with a big, big year. Even a slightly better year would be a big help to the team."

2008 Salary (and Cap Number): $7.25M ($6.25M)

2009-2010 Status: Smyth is signed for 3 more seasons at $6.25M. He has a NTC.

Outlook for 2009: There were a lot of rumors that the Avalanche were shopping Smyth at the trade deadline. Nothing ever materialized, of course, the Smyth trade chatter has started up again this offseason. Given that Smyth is a Giguere hire, a trade would not be surprising. Disappointing, perhaps, but not shocking. Of course, the Avalanche would need to find a suitable deal with a team Smyth would be interested in waiving his NTC for, and I believe his shortlist of potential destinations is going to be a small one. With that in mind, I expect Smyth to be riding shotgun with Paul Stastny and Milan Hejduk on the top line next season. And dammit, I still think he's going to score 40 goals some year.

 

Next Up: Per Ledin

 

Poll
Who will lead the Avs in scoring next season?
Smyth
12 votes
Hejduk
22 votes
Sakic
11 votes
Wolski
6 votes
Stastny
121 votes
Duchene
9 votes
McLeod
2 votes
Other
1 votes

184 votes | Poll has closed

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almost forgot one interesting stat

Smyth had 9 goals at home and 17 on the road

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 18, 2009 6:26 AM MDT reply actions  

I hope we keep him.

With the loss of Lappy, we’ll need someone to step up into a leadership role – and I think Smyth will do fine. He obviously can’t replace Lappy in the fighting category – but he’ll be serviceable.

Smyth-Staz-Hejduk
Wolski-Duchene-Svats/Hensick?

I think we might actually be able to roll at least two quality scoring lines next year. That gives me at least a little reason to hope.

by AaronHawn on Jun 18, 2009 7:09 AM MDT reply actions  

I think if the Avs were ever to get:

1) A decent point shot on the power play
2) A coach who actually weants his player to shoot from the point on a PP
3) JML stops being hesitant on his point shot…

I think you see where I am going here…

THEN and only then would Ryan Smyth live up to his potential here in Colorado. The guy is not a finesse guy, but both Q and TG treated him like one.

He is one of the hardest workers on the ice, but let’s face it, he is a great “garbage goaler”…and maybe one day a competent coach would realize that, and adjust play as such.

I love Smitty…hoping he has another good season

by chiavsfan on Jun 18, 2009 7:29 AM MDT reply actions  

I don’t even think we need a good point shot, we just need to have defense-men who will shoot the puck and get it on net from the blue line. Too often they either don’t shoot, or when they do they hit the defender in front of them.
I think Smyth’s lack of goal production in front is more a combination of #2 and #3 (but with all our defenders not just JML).

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

I only pick JML because he has a decent enough shot, but he is the pump fake king…he always seems stuck in thought between “should I shoot or pass?”

The other guys (Clark, Salei, Leopold…ect.) shot, but as you said, they seemed to shoot into people

by chiavsfan on Jun 18, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

salei had a good shot that he used when he first got here, and it kinda evaporated this last season. I hope they can bring it back. It wasn’t the most accurate shot, but it was hard enough to pinball up to the goal as often as not, ready to be chipped in.

I didnt notice what kind of shots the kids had when we called them up… we only saw them for such a short time its hard to get a gauge for them. I assume that Sacco knows them pretty well tho.

Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...

by mfured20 on Jun 18, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

The elusive "A"

goes to Smitty. When he broke his hand at the end of the season, I remember thinking, “well there goes the scoring.” He brought it every night.

Doc, I am curious: I know you going to do grades over at Jibbles’ site and factor in salaries in your analysis. Would you give Smyth an “A” when considering his salary?

Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.

by hockeymom on Jun 18, 2009 8:12 AM MDT reply actions  

i haven’t sat and thought about it, but a gut reaction is no, more like a B+ or a B. i’ve no problem with an A in general though, Smyth was our best player last year.

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Next Up: Per Ledin

I think that pretty much sums up his season right there.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 8:40 AM MDT reply actions  

To his credit, the photos we all saw of Per Ledin before he finally got an Avs uniform on have to be worth at least a + on his INC.

One down, three to go

by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jun 18, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

This.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by A.J. Haefele on Jun 18, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love Smytty

Don’t regret the signing in the least.

by Selanne on Jun 18, 2009 8:43 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

me neither

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

It’s one of the few signings that makes a lot of sense.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 18, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll second this

I know it’s not his forte, but I remember watching this goal video over and over again back in October:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLOFRLqBcQ

One down, three to go

by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

That was Sweet.

I was at that game. It was the one with the obnoxious wheelchair guy in the box next to us.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Smyth is producing while essentially in a crippled role. Can you imagine his production with Lidstrom at the point? All he needs is for the blue line to start shooting pucks on net. Production from the blue line will clear up so much room for this team. I cannot emphasize this enough.

I sat at the last game next to Shane from Avalanche Talk and we are watching one of the rare shifts where the Avs have possession in the offensive zone against the Blues where they are down 1-0 and playing for absolutely nothing of course. In this shift they were cycling the puck below the net and had held the zone for a bit. The Blues center was down helping out on defense like he’s supposed to. However, the crazy thing was the two Blues wingers had turned their back to their own blue line and coasted all the way down below the faceoff dots! Liles and Mercier were glued to the blue line the whole time. Neither of them slipped down in to the slot and the Blues weren’t even concerned that they would. They weren’t turning their heads to check their positions AT ALL! As I told Shane at the time, “There’s no way in hell Liles and Mercier are standing their by instinct. They are being told to do that. There’s no way on God’s green Earth that offensive minded defensemen are going to sit on their own blue line down by a goal when the forwards are selling out to help on defense. That has to be a behavior that’s taught.” It’s basically 3 on 5 (six if you count a poke checking goalie) at that point, no wonder the Avs sucked to high Hell on offense. Smyth may have done well behind the net but there’s no room in front of the net because the Avs were so easy to defend.

And another thing… how many times did you see Smyth carry the puck in to the zone totally all alone in a break away situation? Well, like all the time actually. Why? Because the Avalanche shifted like the fricken UAW. At this same Blues game I HEARD Vernance getting called to the bench for a line change when he tried to jump the play to create an odd man rush because the Blues were shifting when Avs had possession through the neutral zone with some speed. This is a game that means NOTHING. It’s a game you are behind 1-0! This is last fricken game of the season and this coaching staff has the balls to yell at Vernance to take a shift and kill an odd man rush! For what? So you could break out the shift charts and show that you matched lines or some other BS? It’s one reason fans like myself point to Cloutier despite his long, accomplished resume with the Avalanche.

Man I needed to get that off my chest. This post was brought to you by iphone 3.0 Copy and Paste function. Woo hoo!

by Dario on Jun 18, 2009 9:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Dario
Liles and Mercier were glued to the blue line the whole time. Neither of them slipped down in to the slot and the Blues weren’t even concerned that they would. They weren’t turning their heads to check their positions AT ALL! As I told Shane at the time,

Are you suggesting Cloutier isn’t the most brilliant defensive tactician in the world

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

And

Are you also suggesting that part of the problems with the Avs last season was coaching?

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

For shame!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

nice post, and Digit, Lowayne, and I were screaming the same thing all year.

by thedoctor on Jun 18, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

as were my dad, grandma, and i.

why didnt the coaching staff see it?

Sippin' PBR on a Colorado game day...

by mfured20 on Jun 18, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why didn't the coaching staff see it?

A) They did and didn’t care.
B) They were told not to change it.
C) They were wearing Burgundy and Blue glasses.
D) It’s not a situation covered in “Coaching Hockey for Dummies”

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Jun 18, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry d) doesn't apply

everyone in this organ-I-zation is the most brilliant hockey mind ever to grace the planet.

Or didn’t you get the memo?

by Hopfenkopf on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 PM MDT reply actions  


PS: from now on, when someone reply-fails I’m just using this image as a taunt friendly reminder that they screwed it up. I encourage everyone else to do the same:

url: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8186/avsih1.png

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 18, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I bookmarked the link

just because the off-season is beginning to heat up and if I ever make a consistent effort to comment this off-season, I’ll be using it a lot.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by A.J. Haefele on Jun 18, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I voted for Wolski

for no real reason. I have no idea who it’s going to be.

Also, for as awesome as Smyth was this year, I’ll never forget him flying down the left side and firing a slapshot into the chest of the goalie approximately 34059873493 times. Still, great year from him. Do not trade him, plz.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by A.J. Haefele on Jun 18, 2009 3:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Great player, bad cap #, they should move him for 2 players and a pick if they can, if not I’ll be happy he’s on the roster. I do feel sorry for him, by the time this team is really ready to compete he’ll be way old or traded away for the last piece.

I'm Mr. Positive

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 18, 2009 8:03 PM MDT reply actions  

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