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Draft an ACTUAL goalie prospect

Besides Weiman, Bacashihua and Delmas, the Avs have no real solid goalie prospects (Delmas is right on the line).

The Avalanche would be smart to pick Olivier Roy if he is still available at #33. There is a chance he could go in the first round, but he is by and far the best goalie available in this year’s draft, besides Nicola Riopel.

Riopel could still be available at #49 and is another amazing QMJHL goalie eligible to be drafted.

At #64 I would look at either the behemoth Finnish goalie Mikko Koskinen or possible Robin Lehner from Sweden. Lehner is an interesting story because his father has worked with Henrik Lundqvist for many years and Lehner has been learing a lot just from watching them. Lehner considers Hank a mentor and that’s a pretty good mentor to have if you ask me.

Any of those goalies would be a very smart choice for the Avs.

by TheAvalancheGuild on Jun 22, 2009 5:46 PM MDT reply actions  

I’d like to see one of the 2nd round pics be one of the European goalies. It tends to be an overlooked field in my opinion, but one the Avs have had some decent luck with.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 22, 2009 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Would Roy be able to deal with the pressure of being an Avs goalie though. Not only would he be a goalie on an Avs team which already has a truckload of pressure and then ading even more simply because he’s the G.O.A.Ts son. As much as it’d be cool to see another Roy in net I don’t think it’d be best for him or the team.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Jun 22, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Taking a goalie named Roy @ 33 might be a good omen.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 22, 2009 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not even by six degrees of Kevin Bacon?

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 22, 2009 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

My bad, I was thinking of Jonathon Roy for some reason, although the chances of him being picked in the 2nd round aren’t all that good and should have alerted me to the fact they were different people. I Blame society for my mistake.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Jun 23, 2009 1:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

No worries, I'm sure a lot will make that mistake over the next few years

When I saw your post, I was thinking how did I miss that, so I had to look it up.

by mcarson01 on Jun 23, 2009 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m sure alot will make that mistake which is the main thing I have against drafting him and not another goalie, even if he isn’t related he has the name which will add a truckload of pressure. Especially since most of Daters muppet mob would hate him for it, and their logic is infallible. Which is why Raycroft was an all star goalie around christmas

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Jun 24, 2009 2:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

In the mocks I did, I took a goalie at #33. Looking back at it now, I’d probably go with a skater and take a goalie at #49 or #64. I think the goalies will fall in this draft.

If I were to guess on a goalie the Avs would take, it would be Fargo’s (USHL) Mike Lee, who is heading to St. Cloud State in the fall. The Avs would have scouted him often as they had a prospect (Nate Condon) play on his team this year.

Drew Shore
Charles-Oliver Roussel
Ethan Werek
Zach Budish

Budish and Werek could be taken in the late first round, but Roussel should be available in the second round, though I’m not sure he’d last until 49.

Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)

by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 22, 2009 6:32 PM MDT reply actions  

What’s the over under on the Avs packaging the two 2nds for a late first?

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 22, 2009 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Unlikely. I think they are better off keeping their second round picks. This is a pretty deep draft. In fact, I hope they can find a way to add another second or third round pick.

Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)

by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 22, 2009 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

so you want Svatos traded too… :)

by thedoctor on Jun 22, 2009 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Further to that point...

How about Svats & one of our 2nds for say the 9th through 12th in a shot at MSP?

Svats is a proven commodity, maybe not a world beater, but a decent 2nd/3rd line winger (presuming you don’t put him on the line with Arnasoft), plus a 2nd.

by Hopfenkopf on Jun 22, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Svatos injury history makes his value tough to judge. I don’t think Svatos and a second rounder is enough to move into the 9-12 slot. You probably would be looking at Wolski instead of Svats.

Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)

by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 22, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

How’s about our 3rd as well? I love Svats, but he needs to skate on a major talent line, which I’m not sure that we quite have now or in the near future. All we need to do is transplant Svats’ heart into the Baron’s body.

Would also be happy to offer up Clark, Tucker and/or Hannan in the package. Addition by subtraction you know…

by Hopfenkopf on Jun 22, 2009 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like it

The more I look at the guys ranked 30-50, the more I think this trade is not bad for either side. There will be a lot of good players left in the second round for the team that takes Svatos. If it happens, let’s hope that is the 49th pick because I’m thinking a couple really good prospects could fall to 33. It seems like it’s always the smaller guys that get passed by, like Jr. Chicken Parm (LANDON FERRARO) or KYLE PALMIERI (they are comparing him to Drury). There’s always somebody who falls, who will it be this year?

by mcarson01 on Jun 23, 2009 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

i doubt you’ll move into that slot with that package.

i do think that package might be attractive to Minny for Harding though, especially as their suitors fade away every day. they are really starting to run the risk as Harding going to RFA where they’ll either be stuck with a big salary or less compensation than if they traded now.

by thedoctor on Jun 23, 2009 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I could do Harding for Svats and a 2nd. I might even be persuaded to throw in a 4th or 5th if that’s what it took, but likely not the 3rd.

by Hopfenkopf on Jun 23, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Spector has a rumor of PMB and Harding for Heatley, with Ottawa then flipping Harding themselves. That would make sense for both teams, honestly…best trade surrounding Heatley I’ve seen yet.

And I would think they’d be interested in the Svatos + 2nd package too, just from chatting with their fans.

by thedoctor on Jun 23, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, so if this were to come about, MIN gets Heatly ($7.5M), OTT would end up with Bouchard ($4.25M) and Svats ($2.35M) and a 2nd and we get Harding (+/-$3 or 4M??). Not too bad all around, but I guess that it’s all predicated on MIN not coming to terms with Gaborik at somewhere around the same price tag. Given the impending cap situation, I think Gabby may find that his price has come down from what he forecast last summer.

by Hopfenkopf on Jun 23, 2009 4:50 PM MDT reply actions  

yeah, that would work. i wonder what ott fans would think of that.

by thedoctor on Jun 24, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

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