Don't let the door hit you on the way out
by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jun 3, 2009 8:26 AM MDT
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"The Colorado Avalanche Hockey Club announced today that the organization has relieved six members of its hockey operations staff from their respective duties.
The list includes head coach Tony Granato, assistant coaches Jacques Cloutier and Dave Barr, goaltending coach Jeff Hackett, Assistant to the General Manager Michel Goulet and video coordinator PJ DeLuca.
The Avalanche will make an announcement regarding its new management structure later today."
http://avalanche.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=424785
[UPDATE: DDC Here...]
Amazingly, Craig Billington is not the new GM. It's Greg Sherman. Billington becomes Assistant GM. Eric Lacroix becomes Director of Nepotism sorry, looks like that's President of Hockey Operations (Billington formerly was VP of Hockey Operations) and David Oliver (Lake Erie's GM) to be named Director of Player Development.
The fired staff members have already been removed from the Avalanche site by some highly efficient folks. Let's not forget that these are some good people who've lost their jobs, some of whom have been with this franchise for a long, long time.
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YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!!!
Granato and Cloutier obviously…FANTASTIC
I do feel bad for Hackett…he did a great job with Theodore. Something that didn’t translate as well with Budaj and Raycroft
so, I guess the ball is now rolling.
surprised to hear Hackett was in the mix. and video coordinator? really?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, the game prep WAS lacking at times. We all blamed Tony, but maybe the video coord. was splicing Lifetime movies together instead of game film?
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
so, again, why didn’t we do this in April?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 8:38 AM MDT reply actions
Apparently
There must have been some sort of Human cock-fight between Billington and Goulet for the GM spot. Billington obviously won and got to vanquish his foes appropriately.
Either way… great great news (i’m surprised at Hackett and Goulet though)
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think Goulet said Give me GM or give me unemployment…
by From the Point on Jun 3, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
My guess is that they weren’t ready with replacements.
As lame as the current management/coaching structure has been, it’s better than (debatably) the “nobody in any position” alternative.
Yep
Everyone would be bitchin if PL had fired everyone back in April and we sat around all this time with a half dozen vacancies…
by From the Point on Jun 3, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
weren’t ready with replacements? seriously?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Surprising...
Given the tiny pool of qualified candidates (must have worked for Avs in the past) and the fact that PL started looking in January 2009.
Ditto on the Yup
Firing FG right away was a “we’re on this” kind of message. But doing a full scale sweep without firm ideas of who would be filling those roles, at least the head ones, would have sent a “oh shit we’ve got to do something but we don’t know what so let’s just get rid of a bunch of people and then figure it all out” message.
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jun 3, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Sherman is the assistant GM
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions
and I didn’t see that coming
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions
more
Eric Lacroix will become the director of hockey operations.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions
AD Blog on the “structure”
From a source: Greg Sherman, previously the assistant GM, will be the new Avalanche GM. Craig Billington will be the assistant GM.
Here are the rest of the management structure titles:Brad Smith, director of player personnel, will play a more active role in personnel decisions. Eric Lacroix will become the director of hockey operations. Rick Pracey will remain the team’s head scout. David Oliver will be named director of player development.
More soon….
I assume this all means Sacco will be the coach?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 8:59 AM MDT reply actions
me too
since they haven’t interviewed anyone, but choosing a coach isn’t like choosing a GM. They don’t necessarily need to have it done before the draft
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions
tempers the excitement level a bit, eh?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
no
With the way the Royy situation played out especially, anyone would be better than Granato. (even without the Roy situation I would have taken Sacco over Granato)
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Greg Sherman's Bio
Greg Sherman recently completed his seventh year in his current role with the Avalanche front office. He was named Assistant General Manager during the summer of 2006 after spending the previous three seasons as Assistant to the GM.
Ladies and gentlemen, our new GM: Dwight Schrute
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:14 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Awesome
If anything, we know he’s cutthroat and win at all costs
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Also
Sherman also served as a liaison between the Avalanche and its American Hockey League affiliate, the Lake Erie Monsters. Born in Scranton, Pa.,
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I wish I had read the bio further. that completely seals it.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
they’ve already updated the bio and deleted the Office part. sad.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I think we have a new nickname.. that took all of 20 minutes.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
it might be a record.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Now that i've made my blog post
I think I’m going to use this hilariously appropriate painting of Dwight Schrute when talking about the new GM that I found on the internets:
and +100 to DD for the Schrute reference and nickname… fantastic.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
So, do we now think the Roy fiasco was just a way for PL to hide interviews with other coaches? (Well, not really since they don’t accept outside interviews) But still…a big name distraction could lead to a lot of time to do other things in the clear and quiet
nah, that was just a true fiasco.
and it looks like the Eric Lacroix nepotism deal was happening regardless of Roy, as he quit his Phoenix job a week before Roy turned down the gig
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Who
is going to be the next coach and who do you think really will make that decision? PL? SHERMANATOR?
GO AVS!!!
Sacco will be the next coach and PL made that decision.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Idiots
They should just get a real doctor to do the hockey operations. I mean… If there ever was a time to hire outside of the organization.
by Where is Bob Hartley? on Jun 3, 2009 9:42 AM MDT reply actions
Having a hard time typing
hands are sore from all the cartwheels. About fricken time. Not sure what happened with Goulet and Hacket, and not thrilled about the insider management structure including junior. But at least we’ll have a different set of bodies and hopefully actual minds behind the bench next season.
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My hands
are sore from clapping for 10 minutes straight. I just sat quietly in my studio and clapped with no emotion… for 10 minutes.
by Where is Bob Hartley? on Jun 3, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
The Habs fired their longtime goalie coach, Roland Melanson, yesterday for what that’s worth.
Under Melanson’s supervision and a seemingly blind devotion to a butterfly style of goaltending that was previously foreign to him, Price’s game deteriorated to the point where, at the end of this past season the only way to describe him was “confused and ineffective”. Melanson was also witness to the deterioration of Jose Theodore from Hart and Vezina trophy winner to Canadiens spare part in less than four years.
I’m a little surprised that this actually happened, but not surprised about most of the names.
Hacket is probably the biggest surprise in my book.
If Sacco is the new coach, I wonder if he’ll bring up Lefevbre with him?
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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two things most Avs fans don't know
First, Brad Smith has the greatest hockey acumen in the front office. He’s the best pro scout the Avs have ever had and in that role was crucial to the two championships. If he plays a bigger role, that’s a very good thing.
Second, Pracey staying in as head scout isn’t any sort of confirmation of his abilities. This is his first drat after Hampson stepped down last year. A new head scout is no small thing. Blame the GM for whatever you like but drafting is still heavily reliant on your scouting department and what they advise.
Sherman is fine as long as he acts as a macro manager to his hockey advisors like Smith and Billington.
by Dario on Jun 3, 2009 10:24 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey Sherm
Want to start winning some trust? Step 1: Buy out Tucker. Step 2: Sign Lappy.
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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 3, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Better..
Unconditionally waive Tucker – then he doesn’t count against the cap at all. Buyout just stretches his remaining contract over a longer period.
I’d throw Clark in that category too, though maybe he could be traded for 1/2 a ham sandwich.
by Hopfenkopf on Jun 3, 2009 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure anyone is stupid enough to pick him up.
I’m pretty sure the rest of the league was laughing out loud when the Avs plucked this “gem” off the scrap heap and gave him a lot of money.
by Streams Of Whiskey on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
it would be so awesome if tucker can be waived/sent down to AHL/etc., but does anyone know if his contract allows this? i was disturbed by how delusionally the PR dept of the Avs were trying to promote tucker as a fan favorite this past season. i seriously hope that is over, with the FG regime gone. (and ditto, for any chance of arny being allowed anywhere near an avalanche uniform next season).
He can be sent to the AHL, but he has to clear waivers (hopefully not!) and I think his salary would still count against the cap.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions
And if Toronto couldn't waive him
why could we after one more year of sucktitude? I’m pretty sure the buyout is our only option. Even the Islanders wouldn’t be dumb enough to pluck his contract off of waivers.
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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 3, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I think that the way it works is that if a player clears waivers and is assigned to the minors, his salary only counts against the cap if he is 35 or older when the contract was signed. Otherwise, the team would still have to pay his full salary. It just wouldn’t count against the cap, even if he is now 35 or older. This is how the Rangers got out of Darius Kasparaitis’s contract counting against the team’s upper limit. They just waived him and when he went unclaimed, they assigned him to the minors and paid him his salary anyways.. The Pens also did this for a short time to stay within the upper limit when they assigned Miroslav Satan to the baby Pens at the trade deadline after having acquired Bill Guerin. But, Satan was able to be recalled after the playoffs because the upper limit doesn’t really count then.
And if he were claimed on re-entry waivers, the team would have to pay half of his remaining salary for the season (with the team claiming him picking up the remaining half) and that half would count against the team’s cap.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jun 3, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
By fraternizing with the guys over at Blueshirt Banter, who pointed us to BlueSeatBlogs, I found this summary regarding waivers and the salary cap:
Waivers: When a player is waived (sent to the minors), each of the 29 NHL teams can put in a claim for the player. In the case that more than one team puts in a claim for a waived player, the team with the worst record gets the claim. The player is moved to the claiming team for the full (or, if mid season, pro-rated) salary cap hit. If a player clears waivers, he can be reassigned to the minors, and the salary cap hit is cleared until the player is recalled. Only players with one-way contracts pass through waivers. Players with two-way contracts do not pass through waivers. http://www.blueseatblogs.com/understanding-the-cap/
This is correct Pookie,
but it refers to the process for conditional waivers, or assignment to the minors. There also exists a provision in the CBA to unconditionally waive the player, in which event they don’t go to the minors if nobody picks them up, but they just go work at Burger King. Either way, the salary comes off of the team’s cap number completely. The individual player contract might have a provision that prohibits an unconditional waiver and/or that stipulates that the player be paid regardless, but since I’m only talking cap hit here, I’m not terribly sure I care that much (then again, I’m not E. Stan).
Either way, the salary comes off of the team’s cap number completely.
Yeah, that was the main point I was probably trying to make, in response to Jibs’ wondering whether Tucker’s salary would still count against the Avs’ salary cap.
So, wait, why can’t the Avs waive Tucker instead of buying him out?
Gotta be more to it, doesn't there?
Otherwise, why did Toronto buy him out? And why would anyone ever choose to buy someone out instead of waiving them?
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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 3, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
The reason that they buy players out instead of waiving them is because if they waive a player and he is sent to the minors, they still have to pay his contract. No, it may not count against the cap. But, It is still costing the team more money to pay his full contract than it is to buy him out and pay only 2/3 of the contract or whatever the rate may be. And it certainly costs more to pay an NHL contract in the AHL than it does to pay the salary of an AHL player whose roster spot he may have taken by being assigned to the minors.
Also keep in mind that AHL teams are allowed only a certain number of ‘veteran’ players on their team – players with a certain number of years or games played in the NHL or professional ranks.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jun 3, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Stay in town...
Maybe they’ll hire the Gwoz!
I don’t think he would want it.
haven’t been paying much attention over here….the Roy situation, in fans’ eyes, as well as the organizations (not that that means much any more with a new crew in charge), does his turning down the position at this time translate to a, “he’s never getting another shot with the Avs”?
As a Detroit Pistons fan, I’m thinking of how Isiah Thomas left the organization under less than ideal terms, and how fortunate we are that he never came back to run the Pistons into the ground like he does everything else, but back then, the thinking among fans was, this is our hero, he’s just going to step into the front office, etc, etc.
Has Roy irrevocably burned bridges, or is there a sense of, this wasn’t the right time for him, if and when he wants in on the Avs front office/coach position, it’s waiting there for him?
Also, just curious as to the future of Joe Sakic with the Avs, is that a case of he can transition upstairs whenever he makes the decision he’s done playing, like Yzerman with the Wings? Or is that not something he’s expressed interest in?
I don’t think Roy has burned his bridges with the organization. Had he turned down the Avs and then taken another coaching job than that would probably be the case.
I’m sure some fans are a little relieved that he didn’t take the job as coach and GM because many were unsure if he’s ready for that much responsibility. I think the timing just wasn’t right and in the future he’ll still be high on PL’s list of coaching candidates.
As for Sakic, I think he definitely has a position with the management if he wants it when he retires. I haven’t ever heard though if that is something he desires.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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by Americanario on Jun 3, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Poor video coordinator. He must have been worse at handling angles than Budaj.
One down, three to go
by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jun 3, 2009 11:25 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Puppet part 2
From the avs website…
"Surrounded by a strong hockey staff and under my supervision, he will have all the necessary support to lead the Avalanche in this new direction," added Lacroix.
I added the bold, but it looks as if PL will still be the man behind the curtain, to take the credit or divert the blame.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
While the whole granato thing may have been a cluster f***, it’s possible that the other canadates were looking to keep granato and Sherman didn’t want him and that was part of his winning pitch…which is what I think I’m going to choose to believe for now since that would mean that someone was paying attention to this team.
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 12:26 PM MDT reply actions
that would mean that someone was paying attention to this team.
You mean besides all of us whiney fans who sped 4 hours a day bashing the organization from or Mothers’ basements, while sitting in out under ware eating hot pockets.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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by Americanario on Jun 3, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Mmmm… Hot Pockets.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 12:40 PM MDT reply actions
Goddamnit… can’t even reply in the right place.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 12:45 PM MDT reply actions
that’s what you think
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Ohio State?
My view of you was slightly tarnished. Only for a few seconds, then it went back to normal.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
they gave me a lot of money to get an advanced degree there
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Hockey Operations
How is Lacroix gonna help with all the injuries the team’s been having to deal with?
I say; get a proper trainer. One who doesn’t overstretch groins and one who blows the snow.
Hockey operations are tricky. Like remember the time Peter Forsberg had his spleen ruptured. That required an immediate hockey operation. Hopefully Eric didn’t get his medical degree at DeVry.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Hollywood Upstairs Medical Skool.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions
of Medicology ;)
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
with a double major in brain surgery and tattoo removal
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions
New Avs Trainer-
Dr. Nick Rivera!!!
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
Hello Dr. Nick!!!
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Now, does anyone know what kind of coach Sacco is? I assume he’s the front runner now. I’d really like to see them give Lemaire a long look. A good defensive coach with an actual system (I guess I shouldn’t keep needling granato since he is unemployed now), since this team doesn’t score many goals maybe he can show them how to prevent a few.
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 1:22 PM MDT reply actions
Sacco
I’m not sure the job is his… I’d give him the best odds, but he’s only been a coach 2 years (well AHL, not sure where he was before that).
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
ít’s not like the LEM have been performing above par.
And I don’t count the fact that half their team was wearing uniprons as a valid excuse
I excuse it a little, not so much as proof he’s a good coach, but i wouldn’t hold last season against him too much.
But I think there’s far more qualified candidates the Avs should look at (as I mention on my site today). I wouldn’t mind Sacco being promoted to assistant.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions
let’s see if I can help you out, Jibs:
only 2 AHL teams scored less goals than Lake Erie did last year.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions
and only 3 teams have less points than Lake Erie over the last two seasons.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly how many teams are in this so-called “AHL” you speak of?
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
For those of you concerned that Sherman is just another FG, the litmus test for that will be to see if he trades for or re-acquires Jordan Leopold in the off-season. :P
One down, three to go
by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jun 3, 2009 1:28 PM MDT reply actions
a former leaf? Sign him up.
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
These 2 guys would really add some grit. Video
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Horrible fail.. try this Video
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Finally an answer to this question
What if Maltby could fight Maltby?
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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 3, 2009 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions
A Vortex of assholery so strong we would all be swollowed
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
That’s like tomfoolery, except worse.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
That reminds me
Of the ref who gave out a 2 min minor for “dancing”. When the league called to ask wtf?, he said what they had done didn’t deserve a 5min major as they didn’t actually fight. The league laughed and said, nice, but please stick to the established calls in the future.
Get rid of the loser point
08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?
So it seems as though PL really IS listening to all the advice I keep emailing him. Huh.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
wait, hiring Eric Lacroix was YOUR idea?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Actually
Joe was sending PL a list of offseason moves, but when the e-mails stopped coming PL had to just wing it for the final 6 moves.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Compeltely unrelated
There was a nice dinner party where two friends, one who happened to be a a doctor and one who happened to be a lawyer, were having a pleasant conversation, like they have had 1,000 times. The doctor finally changed topic and asked his lawyer friend for advice:
Doc: “Whenever someone finds out I’m a doctor they always ask me about various miscellaneous injuries. I don’t mind helping, but I find it annoying that everyone thinks I should just drop what I’m doing to help them, especially if the injury is minor, do you have any ways I could avoid this?”
Lawyer: “Oh, that’s easy, just bill them for an hour of your time. They’ll stop asking”
three weeks later the doctor got a bill for a $300 lawyer consultation fee.
by Jibblescribbits on Jun 3, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Only $300.00
boy he got off cheap.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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Awesome
I’m drinking heavily tonight. Thanks Pierre. You were a good guy Tony.
Keenan?
UGHHH make it a 24 pack.
PBR is awesome.
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Presser Video
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 PM MDT reply actions
do I even want to know what that’s going to be?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I should warn you.. the un-edited one is posted.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Ok Ok… I swear this is the last one. “Super Un Edited Avs Presser” is officially posted.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 3, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Until Pierre Lacroix steps down, there wont be any real change in this organization. Today was just a reshuffling of the deck. When this fails, he’ll name his son GM and the vicious cycle will continue.
Colorado Avalanche Prospects (www.avsprospects.blogspot.com)
by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 3, 2009 5:01 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
I have a question
Was Hartley an outside hire? I know coach Q kind of was (though he had been here as an assistant). I can’t remember or find out where Hartley was before the Avs head coach.
nope, Hartley came from Hershey
Crawford is essentially the only outside hire the Avs have had (and he was hired when the team was in Quebec)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 3, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions
was he there before lacroix?
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jun 3, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
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