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What Went Wrong?

You can accuse me of wearing burgundy-tinted glasses if you wish, but I think the Avs will greatly exceed the low expectations most pundits have for them. Health will again be a concern; but the Avalanche have a significant number of players who have had difficulty staying healthy. But they showed last April that they are capable of playing with just about any team.

With a healthy Brett Clark and a full season from Adam Foote and Ruslan Salei, the Avalanche should have their best - and deepest - corps of blueliners since the last Cup win. Up front the team looks to have a versatile blend of skill, grit, youth and experience. And, yes, I do believe that Peter Budaj is going to be an upgrade over Jose Theodore in net. If Tony Granato can find a way to get the most out of this talented team - and that's a big "if" in my book - and if the team doesn't repeat it's stint as a walking M*A*S*H* unit - another big one - I feel there's no reason we can't win the division and go deep in the playoffs. Yes, really.

 

The above idiot, of course, was yours truly during last fall's Avalanche Blogger Roundtable. I've been thinking a bit about why I was so off. Yes, the injury bug bit us. Again. And Granato did not do well, as we are well aware. But that "talented team" I mentioned? Eh... Budaj being an upgrade? Well, he was, but it was a very slight upgrade. That deep defensive squad? I don't even want to go there.

But I think there may be another factor, one that I wasn't really counting on. And it took this youtube video to remind me: Peter Forsberg. To be fair, I fully expected Forsberg to return last year. That didn't happen, of course, and his absence might have had a bigger impact than we thought.

Honestly, I think we've taken Forsberg for granted a bit in recent years. Well, I know that I have. When he's not around, you forget just how dynamic a player he is on the ice, even when he's got some electric motor in his pants making his feet work. When he returned to the Avalanche at the 2008 deadline, he changed the entire team. The guys who played with him - Stastny and Hejduk especially - were better players with him on the ice. Even the guys who didn't play with him benefited from the added focus opposing teams placed on Foppa. Remember the success that Sakic, Wolski and Brunette had in Forsberg's games? The whole team just seemed more...creative.

With Forsberg in the lineup last spring, they were 8-1-0. Without him, just 36-30-7 - a pace for 89 points (Nashville was the #8 seed with 91 points). Check out some of the wins - 3-1 win over Dallas: two points for Forsberg. 2-0 shutout of Calgary: Forsberg assisted on the winning goal. 6-3 win against Vancouver: 3 helpers. 5-4 shootout win: 3 assists, including the game-tying goal with 6 seconds left. 4-2 win against Vanouver: 2 points. 4-3 win against Minnesota: 3 more points. Forsberg was crucial to the Avs' playoff run. Without Foppa, the Avs probably don't make the playoffs.

And, of course, the Avs were 4-3 in the postseason when Forsberg was able to play, and 0-3 when he could not. The depleted Minnesota Wild defense had to focus so much energy on Forsberg that, in the end, the Avalanche were able to prevail. Without Foppa, that's a different series.

The Avalanche have spent 3 full seasons without Forsberg since he left via free agency. We have one postseason appearance and one series win in those three years. Had he not dug his superman costume out of storage in '08, the Avs would likely be in the middle of a three year playoff drought. As it was, his heroics were enough to put us over the top one last time. Sadly, until we find another superhero, that may remain our most sucessful season for quite some time.

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His superman unipron you mean?

by chiavsfan on Jun 9, 2009 10:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Duchene

will be the second coming of Foppa… hopefully

by smoky201 on Jun 9, 2009 10:43 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

more like Sakic.

by thedoctor on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 9, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

but no pressure

GO AVS!!!

by slapshotr2007 on Jun 9, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahaha, yeah. How’s Toews instead?

by thedoctor on Jun 9, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Heatley?

He’s no Forsberg, but wouldn’t look bad on the wing of Stastny or Duchene. Even if Sakic retires, affording him would be a stretch though.

by MalachiConstant on Jun 9, 2009 12:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty wild stuff, but I don’t see us putting together a good enough package. Wolski + …? Smyth?

by thedoctor on Jun 9, 2009 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope, can’t see it happening

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 9, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather go after Cammellari if we could get our hands on him (not likely)

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 9, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Jun 9, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

That is an interesting one.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 9, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

But not interesting enough at 5’9" 185.

The guy formerly known as "Where is Bob Hartley?". Because it's never going to happen. And no one knows where he is.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 9, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what

the guy’s a really really good player.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 9, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forsberg was definitely what put the team over the top to make them a playoff team in 2008. No arguing that.

But, I don’t think that you really answered the whole “what went wrong?” question. You just pointed out that they were on pace to finish with 89 points without him. The team finished with 69 points this year. What else really went wrong with the scenario that could account for an adjusted for Foppa twenty point difference?

by c0nquistad0rian on Jun 9, 2009 12:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that was just a flimsy premise to start gushing about Forsberg. it was more rhetorical than anything.

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 9, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t blame you. That youtube video put a tear in my eye. I made my handle on the espn message board “ForsbergFan21” ten years ago. Even then as a 15 year old, I always thought that it was a little bit of a corny nick. But, I just couldn’t ever bring myself to change it.

by c0nquistad0rian on Jun 9, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't blame you one bit

Heck, the wind blows and I start gushing about Forsberg. Sort of like this (probably nsfw). Oh wait, did I just type that out loud?

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Jun 9, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goalies

As much as I’d hate to admit it, Budaj and Raycrft weren’t an upgrade over last season, even slightly. Budaj was worse this season than he was last year, and despite how glad I am he is gone, Theodore had a pretty decent season last season (especially the second half).

So to answer your question What went wrong?

The coaching was a lot worse, the offense was a lot worse, the defense was a lot worse, the goaltending was worse, and the Avs had more injuries.

Other than that it was really a solid season.

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 9, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You forgot to mention that management didn’t do A GODDAMN THING to account for any of that, unlike previous years…

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why FG was the first one to go….. to promptly eventually be replaced by GS FG pt 2.

Get rid of the loser point

08-09 Avs- can we decline the penalty?

by TheRed on Jun 9, 2009 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

they fired the coach, and there’s still time

The 2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Slumpbusters

by Jibblescribbits on Jun 10, 2009 5:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention

That we wasted an entire offseason of free agents just to get a 15 games played Sakic.

by Avalanche318 on Jun 10, 2009 7:44 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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