The Morning Papers
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 14, 2009 7:42 AM MDT
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Here's a few odds and ends links from around the internet, some relating to the Avs, others not so much.
- jibblescribbits had a nice scoop yesterday, reporting that Denis Parshin may be close to signing with the Avalanche. Parshin and Canucks' prospect Sergei Shirokov are reportedly attempting to buy themselves out of their CSKA Moscow contracts so that they can sign with their respective NHL clubs. Parshin was drafted by the Avalanche in the 3rd round of the 2004 draft. He's a talented player (Hockey's Future calls him the most talented stickhandler from the 2004 draft - a draft that included Alex Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin...and Wojtek Wolski). He's tiny, though: 5'9, 165.
- Angélique is reporting (via Hockey's Future) that Jonas Holos has rejected a contract offer from the Avalanche and will remain in Sweden for one more year. From the article, it does appear that Holos wants to come to North America eventually, but doesn't feel quite ready yet and is aware that he would be spending most of his time in the AHL (No idea where he would have gotten that crazy idea).
- Hockey's Future has their review of the Avs 2009 Draft up. I just kind of skimmed it, to be honest, having already read Angélique's excellent review.
- Dale Tallon has been fired as GM of the Blackhawks, apparently because of his huge RFA gaffe. The Second City Hockey boys are not thrilled.
- Former Wild coach is now the coach of the New Jersey Devils.
- The NHL schedule will be released tomorrow. I usually do a little analasys if the schedule when it's released and I do expect to do the same tomorrow.
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paging Dr Freud.
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 14, 2009 7:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh, MHH…where both censorship and pride are optional.
:P
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 14, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I put in the FanPost:
Rumors have been flying here in Chicago for quite awhile that Tallon was on the chopping block. The RFA thing may have been the nail the Hawks needed to fire him officially. Some reports say the offers were tampered with from the inside so that Tallon got canned.
It’s an interesting situation…one I’ll have fun watching
by chiavsfan on Jul 14, 2009 8:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Without ole Tricky Dick’s blundering and questionable math skills, the Avs wouldn’t be first in line to poach either Toews or Kane via an RFA offer sheet next year. We may have to nominate him for MVP.
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
by Mike @ MHH on Jul 14, 2009 8:07 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Holos:
For some reason, I am happy about his decision to stay in Europe for another year. Europeans who take their time in developing across the sea seem to have pretty good success when they do finally make it to the NHL. And with the glut of Avs/Monsters defensemen the organization has this season, it probably is better for him to wait a year.
I’m also excited for Parshin just because so many of us have waited so long to see what he can do. But I really have to say: What is it with this team’s love for smallish forwards? (see: Svatos, Hensick, Sertich, Haydar, Parshin, Lalonde-McNicoll, Tessier) Maybe they can kill two birds with one stone and trade for Chris Bourque.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 14, 2009 8:12 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
With the release of the new schedule
Will tickets go on sale tomorrow as well? Gotta get to the home opener.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
by smoky201 on Jul 14, 2009 8:36 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to know this too. I’ve been trying to find the Pre-season tickets to the Sept. 24th game versus the Stars. Can’t find them anywhere!
We’re trying to decide if we can go to the opener or that pre-season game. But we’ve got to find the tickets first!
by Mrs @ MHH on Jul 14, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to say early September.
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 14, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that means we’ll probably be driving then. Waiting until Sept to by plane tickets will probably make them to steep. So 10 hours in a car, here we go!
by Mrs @ MHH on Jul 14, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard NHL regular season tickets go on sale the second Saturday in September. So Sept 12.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
by smoky201 on Jul 14, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemaire and the Devils: Granato’d.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe Dunman on Jul 14, 2009 8:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I thought, at first. But now, there’s been enough time so that his way could work there again without being stale. Just like the avs could rehire Crawford or maybe hartley now (if not for the bad blood)
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jul 14, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The claim is that he was part of the “old regime” and needed to go…even though Stan Bowman has been around longer (in that type of management capacity anyway). Hmmm…..
by chiavsfan on Jul 14, 2009 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I meant Granato’d in that it was an old coach coming back as the new coach. I hope the end result is better for the Devils than it was for Colorado.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe Dunman on Jul 14, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If parishin comes, which RW gets traded or do you try him at LW? Or move stewart or Jones over to the left side?
I'm Mr. Positive
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jul 14, 2009 9:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I would guess he’d be tried on the left, but who really knows.
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh
Even though it’s a possibility, it’s stilla long shot.
The court in Russia postponed the announcement of the ruling re Parshin and Shirokov until a later date. No one knows when that will be.
Even if he does get UFA status, it means he’s a free agent. He can sign with any other team in the KHL, or any other league still, or the Avs. So it’s not a slam dunk by any measure.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 14, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s been reporting that this happening specifically so he can sign with the avs though…
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I didn’t see that (until his latest tweet). does he have a blog/site?
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 14, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said this yesterday: “Young Russians Parshin and Shirokov, who signed the Avs and Vancouver respectively, await their fate tomorrow in court in Russia.”
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
was under the impression he meant that those two teams had their rights, I didn’t even read it as they signed with those clubs.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s your friggin’ story!
Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 14, 2009 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he’s sticking to it, whatever it is.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 14, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
It’s dimitry’s, i’m just following it.
but I interpreted his tweet differently. I thought he altered his languedge a little to fit in 140 characters…
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 14, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
language
My mortal enemy, the word that gives me the most problem spelling Language.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 14, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NHL schedule will be released tomorrow. I usually do a little analasys if the schedule when it’s released and I do expect to do the same tomorrow.
Practice writing your "L"s tonight to get a jump start.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 14, 2009 10:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Your pessimism is showing. You want this team to fail, don’t you!!
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
by Mike @ MHH on Jul 14, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Expect == Want. You caught me. I also want to grow older, lose more head from my head and start growing more of it out of my nose and ears, and never win the lottery. Funny how this expect = want thing works, isn’t it?
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 14, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hair from my head …. damn age is already creeping up on me. As I want it to.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 14, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
If they fail hopefully the next superstar is out there in the draft. I really can’t see a team that is going to be worse than us.
by wolski-08 on Jul 14, 2009 2:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we’ll out-Thrasher Atlanta and out-Islander New York this coming season. Even the Bolts have more reason for optimism. Kings? No way. They’re already buyers this season, and we’re already sellers.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 14, 2009 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who are the duchene-hedman-tavareses in next year’s draft? is it looking as deep as this year’s? do we even know yet??
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 14, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not as deep a draft, but not a bad draft per se, by all accounts. the 3 that are expected to be the “big 3” are 2 LWs and a D — Hall a LW from canada, Fowler, a D from the US,and Kabanov, a LW from Russia.
Fowler seems like a good fit here. Big #1 D type.
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because of our depth at LW and our utter lack of players/prospects on D?
Not sure I understand why we would look for another D prospect, unless he was the second coming of Orr, which he might be, I’m just a little frustrated by our 10 or 12 defensemen and no legit/proven LW of any consequence, not your fault, just frustrated.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
by Hopfenkopf on Jul 14, 2009 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we do have a lot of good prospects on D
but I don’t think all of them will pan out. Shattenkirk seems a lock for a top 4 guy, but Gaunce, Williams, Elliot, Cumiskey, Holos, Cohen, and all the longer shots…who knows how many will pan out as NHLers? 4 maybe?
And even if they do pan out, none are really #1 D types. I subscribe to the Lacroix contender model: 1-2 punch down the middle is a must, and then either a super goalie and a good D or a super D led by a true #1 with a good goalie. Stastny and Duchene are hopefully our 1-2 punch, but we don’t have either the #1 Dman or the super goalie (in all likelihood).
Star wings are great and all, and there’s some that transcend like Ovy, but by and large teams with superstar wingers aren’t perennial contenders. I mean, look at Nash, look at Kovy. It’s hard to build a truly perennially contending team around a superstar winger, let alone a consistent playoff team. That’s ultimately why I was thrilled with the Duchene pick — the 1-2 punch at C is the most important part of a team imo.
Obviously none of these are hard and fast rules, but I would like to go for a true #1 D over a star winger with our next pick. It just seems to be a better from a team construction standpoint. And finding stud wings in UFA is easier too, imo. Hell, Tanguay is still out there — he’s a top 10 LW in the league.
Just my opinion. If Fowler is Cam Barker and Kabanov is Ovy, clearly we need to go Kabanov. But all other things being equal, I want the Dman.
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was writing a post saying essentially the same thing. I’m struggling to come up with a single example of a team that has won the cup recently that can claim a wing, right or left, as one of its top 3 or 4 players.
by exredcoat on Jul 14, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Lightning are the last I can really say that about with Martin St. Louis.. And they’re not exactly what I would call a perennial contender.
by thedoctor on Jul 14, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I see what you're saying,
and I admit that I don’t know the first thing about any of these guys in the 2010 draft (at this point). It just seems stupefying to me that the organization seems to ignore LW and concentrate on D, to the complete exclusion of LW.
If Fowler is a legit top pairing guy, I can definitely agree that we ought to pick him over a top 6 LW (since the former are so much harder to find).
To be frank, I find it totally demoralizing to be talking prior to training camp, about us being a lottery team again. Maybe that’s the way that this season will play out. If we do it by letting the hungry young guys with potential skate while sitting/trading/waiving the highly paid pylons with no soul, I could even get on board with it. But, DAMN!
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
by Hopfenkopf on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Embrace it. It’s OK. This year will be way more fun to watch and talk about if we lower our expectations considerably. Then, if and when they are exceeded, we can be truly happy!
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe Dunman on Jul 15, 2009 6:16 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Mission Statement
I rec’d this comment because If MHH were to have a Mission Statement for the 2009-2010 season, this would be it.
Nobody WANTS this team to do poorly. Like BiB losing his hair (and possibly his mind) it not something wanted, but simply something expected. Last year was exceedingly difficult because our expectations were far too high (deep into the playoffs) and having to come to terms with that fact that the team just wasn’t that good was painful.
I am going to approach the season the way I did my son’s season as a first year U-8 player: I am less concerned about the number of wins; what I want to see is improvement in players and team performance. If, individually and as a team, the players are growing and developing, and the performance is on an upward spiral, I will consider it a successful year, no matter where the team ends up in the standings.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
by hockeymom on Jul 15, 2009 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we need ice girls.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 15, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, you guys have won me over.
IF we play the kids and sit/trade/waive the likes of Tucker & Clark, possibly Hannan & Hensick and the kids do well & try hard, I can hold my head high and be proud of the team and its future. But if we continue to get the mushroom treatment from the organization and its Kaliya heads (you’re welcome Woody, you hack you!) that the moving pile of crap avoiding contact and the puck at all costs that is Tucker is the second coming of Claude Lemieux and/or Mike Ricci then I’m going to end up making BiB look like Mr. Positive.
If the kids do well and maybe even sneek into the 7 or 8 spot by virtue of their talent (and something approaching a coaching system), so much the better!
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
by Hopfenkopf on Jul 15, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the team wants to see what they have in Galiardi and Stoa. really badly. :p
by thedoctor on Jul 15, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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