The Toronto Sun Visits The Moore Brothers
by Joe Dunman on Jul 17, 2009 2:22 PM MDT
in News
81 comments
Mirtle links to a Toronto Sun article on the former Avalanche player Steve Moore and his brothers, and offers some brief commentary.
Mark, Dominic and Steve all went to Harvard and all made names for themselves as proficient hockey players, and since then they've all faced unique challenges of various sorts.
Steve's challenges, of course, are the most daunting, and he will likely never return to the NHL. Todd Bertuzzi, on the other hand, has enjoyed multi-million dollar contracts for the past few years since his barbaric assault on the former Av. Just a reminder in case your blood has somehow stopped boiling.
0 recs |
81 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
god i hope he gets a huge settlement. has anybody heard if bertuzzi has been signed yet?
Wake me when it's over
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 3:04 PM MDT reply actions
Still a UFA. I’m not sure where he may end up. I don’t think Calgary has any intention to bring him back.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
i heard the same about calgay not wanting him. may the hockey gods finally do right on this situation and leave the dickwad out in the cold and without a contract this year
Wake me when it's over
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
SHOULDVE
been banned for life on that hit, i understand that hitting is apart of the game, itd be a pussy sport without it! but to take someone down from behind and then shove his head into the ice for no reason is ridiculous. the same cheap shot that Brashear had against the ranger guy, cheap shots to me dont make the game fun.
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Define hitting
What Bertuzzi did wasn’t a hit, it was a straight up sucker punch. If you mean fighting then I don’t think it’d be pussier without hitting. If you mean checking then yeah, it would be pussier without hitting.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
now that would make for some good karma and some improvement with the declining fan-love of late
Wake me when it's over
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Sadly
I think the way the Avs brushed the whole thing with his brother under the carpet, including the horrible Brad May signing, would leave them off of Dominic’s list.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 17, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Dom Moore is a hard working, checking centre who can play the PK. He’s not worth big dough, but he’d fit well in Colorado if he was willing to play there.
Blogging on hockey at fromtherink.com
by James Mirtle on Jul 17, 2009 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions
i hope it does go to a jury and that jury watches the video clip of that moment from 5 different angles so they get good and pissed off and personally deliver the douche to the cleaners
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1. I didn’t know about the “$350,000 offer from Bertuzzi” that was turned down. Wow. Surely a career is worth more? And what’s the deal with no disability from the NHL?
i was wondering about that myself…anyone know why no disability $$ here?
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
NHL insurance offers upto $6 million in disability. But, I think that you had to have played a certain minimum number of games before you are eligible for it.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 17, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions
that makes sense. sucks donkey long-duck-dongs, but makes sense
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t know if it even makes that much sense. If I started a job with CDOT tomorrow and got hit by a car passing by I’d get disability even though I didn’t have months on the job.
yeah, but a lot of jobs have a waiting period for that kind of thing. 3 months for health insurance, 1 year for disability insurance, etc. my aunt got hurt on the job and had to sue for her disability money. she was done working for good cuz of the injury and they stopped her payments after a few months denying the extent of it. disability regs are whack.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
Government is different. They tend to offer benefits including LTD as soon as you start working there. But, this is hockey, not government so I have no doubt they have rules just like corporations and waiting periods. The actual language should be in the CBA covering that year if anyone cares to look.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Quoting my own Quote
The actual language should be in the CBA covering that year if anyone cares to look.
This actually makes me wonder why the good Dr. Mirtle didn’t look this up for his post…
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
It would have been from a previous CBA given how long ago this happened, and I don’t have a copy lying around of that agreement.
I wonder if Moore might be denied a payout because of the pending lawsuit.
Blogging on hockey at fromtherink.com
by James Mirtle on Jul 17, 2009 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I understand the timing difference but I wouldn’t think they would withhold disability due to a pending lawsuit because in the mean time, he has “no” income. Additionally, any pending monies received from a lawsuit would not cancel out disability… unless the CBA expressly said so…
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
clearly you know more about this than I do, it just seems pretty messed up that you can get an injury on the job through no fault of your own and with no previous history of the injury and not be covered.
it just seems pretty messed up that you can get an injury on the job through no fault of your own and with no previous history of the injury and not be covered.
Agreed, but welcome to healthcare below the 54th parallel. At least you can choose to which medical conglomorate you will lose everything you own. That’s important you know.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
LOL
Gawd. Everyone is cracking me up today. Thanks, MHH.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
My Xbox 360 NHL 2009 game......
We made an entire roster of Moore’s that were tougher and meaner then s#it. We then proceed to play the Flames over… and over and over…… the game might just be more fun when your not trying to score or play defense… Just hitting that douche bag over and over….. Hehe…….
Good, bad.... I'm the guy with the gun.
Epic
Nope, don’t need reminders. Blood is still boiling.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
I always struggle to decide which part of this makes me madder
1. The fact that Moore wasn’t trying to hurt Naslund in the first place
2. The fact that Naslund was fine, so what is the point
3. The fact that Vancouver waited a game (or was it more) to enact their “justice”
4. The fact that Moore had already answered the call and fought somebody in that game
5. The fact that Bertuzzi never got remotely close to the punishment that he deserved
6. The fact that there are actually jackasses out there who think Moore is faking for the money and was only a marginal player anyway.
I think I will stop listing as I keep pounding the keys harder with every entry and I really don’t want to go buy a new keyboard right now.
or the fact that so many seem to forget the whole “shove his head into the ice” part of the incident. that alone takes this way beyond just a ‘bad hit.’
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
What scares me is what was Bertuzzi trying to do? It looks to me like he was literally trying to kill Moore. Bert chased down Moore, sucker punched him from behind, drove his unconscious head into the ice and continued to hit him. This sounds like attempted murder to me.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
Naslund wasn’t fine, but guys get hurt all the time with hits like that. This wasn’t the appropriate response.
Blogging on hockey at fromtherink.com
by James Mirtle on Jul 17, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions
my number one
is when people bring up his stature/skill level as a player as relevant in the discussion. It seems odd to me that the life and livelihood of a top liner, say a Naslund or a Hedjuk, would be worth less than that of a ‘lesser player’…
I just want Drury back... I recognize the Drury->Morris->Statsny chain, and I stick with the statement.
and livelihood of a top liner, say a Naslund or a Hedjuk, would be worthlessmore than that of a ‘lesser player’…
fixed (right?)
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree. The only way that would be marginally relevant would be if Moore had been a goon, sent on the ice specifically to go get Naslund. Which, obviously, he wasn’t.
If I were Dominic I would have welcomed my new boss, Brian Burke, to Toronto with a hard punch to the head and then drove his face onto a hard floor surface with all of my weight behind it. Then I would have told him “that is for my brother, you son of a bitch, now trade my ass before I do it again.” And signing Brad May is still the most disgusting thing PL ever did. Imo (I already posted over at Mirtle), Burke, Crawford, May and Bertuzzi were all culpable in the incident.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 17, 2009 4:13 PM MDT reply actions 5 recs
Absolutely
This is hockey for fucks sake. No reason not to battle of the ice as well i.e. Roy. Rec’d
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
Rec'd, but you forgot something...
If I were Dominic I would have welcomed my new boss, Brian Burke, to Toronto with a hard punch to the head and then drove his face onto a hard floor surface with all of my weight behind it, torn off his arm and beaten my new teammate Brad May to death with it.
Fixed.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
That would have been a very nice touch. Especially if it were Burke’s dominant arm.
Anyone see the TV coverage during this draft where Burke was trying to strike up a conversation on the floor with Bob Gainey about the Hab’s being in the running for LeCav? Gainey just looked at Burke like “get away from me you fuckstick” and walked away.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 17, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions
That would have been a very nice touch. Especially if it were Burke’s dominant arm.
I can’t find the source at the moment, but I distinctly recall reading that Burke was an ambidexterous WANKER!
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"
Boys, girls, violence doesn’t solve anything. Unless it’s a nice swift kick to the balls.
I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman---the official slogan of the 2009'-10' Colorado Avalanche. (and Homer Simpson).
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jul 18, 2009 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
from what i hear
the perfectly placed finger flick does a pretty damn good job too
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 19, 2009 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s terrifying how ridiculously vulnerable male genitalia is to physical assault. Just one of the reasons why I never bought that “Intelligent Design” malarkey.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe Dunman on Jul 20, 2009 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
And another thing
It does piss me off to no end that nobody in an Av sweater has beaten the Bertuzzi out of Bertuzzi since the incident.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
Note to Koci:
To instantly win the heart of Avalanche fans everywhere, take on Bertuzzi in a fair, clean hockey fight. Win or lose, you will likely become a fan favorite.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
by smoky201 on Jul 17, 2009 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This whole thing
is still completely infuriating.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 17, 2009 7:38 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
simple and to the point. +1
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
still very very infuriating!
first of all, i’d like to wish Steve the best.
and now for the main course.
the hit to Naslund by Moore was clean. Naslund himself said he was mostly to blame as he was skating through the neutral zone with his head down. All of us that know anything about hockey know “ALWAYS KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, OR RISK GETTING KNOCKED OUT.” Sure Naslund suffered a concussion and missed 3 games, but the fact is Naslund took responsibility for not having his head up. Furthermore, the canucks played a game at colorado exactly 1 week after the moore/naslund incident and Bettman and Campbell and the rest of the league were in the luxury box watching and waiting on the canucks to do something. given the canucks did nothing the league let their guard down, which vancouver was hoping would happen. they waited until they had colorado in vancouver so their fans could see the massacre. the minute brad may put the “bounty” on moore is the minute the canucks as an organization should have either issued fines or suspended may for his actions. burke, crawford, bertuzzi and ownership should be held accountable. Bertuzzi was a representative of the city of Vancouver, and an employee of the canucks. the city itself isnt responsible but it sure puts a black mark on them. should this have happened in the USA, Bertuzzi would have been charged with attempted murder, not to mention the assault charges. the Canucks players, coaches, and the rest of the organization would have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder and all that. Bertuzzi made a deal got some probation and a 17 game suspension (international competition ban not included). what does that say about the system? MOORE deserves anything he gets and then some from Todd Bertuzzi. I also think the Canucks should have to pay every last cent of Steve’s contract that remained from that date forward, and cover all his medical bills, plus compensate him for future lost income due to disability. Burke should have been punished as well as Crawford and all others involved.
i will just stop typing now before i have a brain anurysm (sp) or something.
by FIRE_FG_the_moron on Jul 17, 2009 8:45 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
we are simple minded folks here at MHH huh? paragraph breaks and short replies are a necessity
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 17, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
this is for Funk's sake
it could be a jibble if you meant to reply to my post about paragraphs. see the break between tex and you? /light shines through the clouds as the truth illuminates his mind
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 18, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll still read it, but to echo others' sentiments....
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 17, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions
This isn't Jibbled?
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 18, 2009 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Um
Yeah it is. The thread about the paragraphs was above not here….
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
^
Drunk
Hockey... The most favoritest sport of Jesus.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jul 18, 2009 12:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Uhhhh
Whart.
There’s totally a conversation, albeit minor, going on about paragraphs.
See, you’re doubting me when I’m right and it’s confusing me. Is this some wimmanz mind trick?
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 18, 2009 12:39 AM MDT up reply actions
this is for Tex's sake
if he was replying to my post about the paragraphs, its a jibble all right. however, if he was replying directly to the non-paragraphical post (thereby echoing Doc’s sentiments specifically, rather than the ambiguous"other" he mentions) it is not, in fact, a jibble.
//light shines through the clouds as the truth illuminates her mind
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 18, 2009 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Lol. It wasn’t a reply to anything therefore making a stand alone statement where, in my view, it belonged with the discussion about the paragraph. I had no idea we needed a mediator in this issue. Thanks :)
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
It was a reply to the wall of text
which the picture depicts. Silly goose.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 18, 2009 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
What are the odds that all 3 of us are drunk (or highly buzzed) right now?
Hockey... The most favoritest sport of Jesus.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jul 17, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I just got here...
…but I’m kinda drunk!
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 17, 2009 11:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Uh
No comment per PL’s philosophy… or some shit.
An ounce of confidence can carry you a mile toward winning. Oh, and Red Wings suck.
That is the perfect position to be in whilst playing MotorStorm!
Hockey... The most favoritest sport of Jesus.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jul 18, 2009 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions
if Red was here
the odds would skyrocket upward that anyone was drunk. =p
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 18, 2009 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
This is extremely true.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 18, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
hey Fire_FG
not sure if you’re new around here or if I’ve just been completely inobservant (I’m voting on the latter) but if you are, (and for those that truly are) take no offense to our criticisms. We are like a big bunch of siblings. Always picking on one another.
Sooooooo, the rule of thumb around here is to read EVERYTHING the first time around as if it’s dripping with sarcasm. Then sit back and ask yourself, “Wait, could this be a genuine sentiment?” If so, reread it as such. Trust me on this one…it shall save you a world of bickering as well as getting a spanking from Joe or Mike about simmering it all down and remembering this is a hockey blog and blah blah blah.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 18, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Like we should listen to the girl that takes her clothes off for “hot pocket” at Avs games :P
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
by Americanario on Jul 18, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Is this like the girl at that Florida Panthers game this past year? (I’d post the link, but I don’t know if I’m allowed:P)
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 18, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
(frantically googling)
Hockey... The most favoritest sport of Jesus.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jul 18, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
hey now
you know it was all about the team. it was a selfless move on my part FTW.
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 18, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Bertuzzi is a disgusting human being.
Joe Sakic. Forever our captain.
by InYoFace on Jul 18, 2009 1:11 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
simple and to the point. bravo!
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche:
Abandon all hope ye who enter here!
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 21, 2009 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Mile High Hockey
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2010 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
