The 2009-2010 Avalanche [Updated]
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 9:06 AM MDT
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A few changes now that we have the Jones contract numbers. For now, I'm penciling in Willsie as the 4th line center, even though he only played 8 games there last year (btw, CapGeek.com is listing Willsie has having a 2-way contract, as we suspected). I've moved Stewart over to the right side so that Doc will stop nagging me and I've penciled in Galiardi and Stoa onto the left wing...for now.
| LW | C | RW | |||||||
| 1 | T.J. Galiardi | 0.875 | Paul Stastny | 6.600 | Milan Hejduk * | 3.900 | |||
| 2 | Cody McLeod | 1.033 | Wojtek Wolski | 2.800 | Marek Svatos | 2.050 | |||
| 3 | Ryan Stoa | 0.850 | T.J. Hensick | 0.850 | David Jones | 0.838 | |||
| 4 | Darcy Tucker | 2.250 | Brian Willsie | 0.600 | Chris Stewart | 0.850 | |||
| Res | David Koci | 0.575 | |||||||
| D | D | ||||||||
| 1 | Scott Hannan * | 4.500 | John-Michael Liles * | 4.200 | |||||
| 2 | Brett Clark | 3.500 | Ruslan Salei | 3.025 | |||||
| 3 | Adam Foote * | 3.000 | Kyle Quincey | 0.525 | |||||
| Res | Kyle Cumiskey § | 0.523 | Tom Preissing | 2.750 | |||||
| G | |||||||||
| 1 | Craig Anderson | 1.813 | |||||||
| 2 | Peter Budaj | 1.250 | |||||||
| Under Contract | 23 | ||||||||
| Estimated Hit | 49.156 | ||||||||
| Estimated Cap | 56.800 | ||||||||
| Cap Space | 7.645 | ||||||||
| Change | -2.557 | ||||||||
| * denotes NTC | |||||||||
| § denotes RFA | |||||||||
| Other Notables | |||||||||
| D | Wes O'Neill | 0.815 | |||||||
| D | Ray Macias | 0.585 | |||||||
| D | Derek Peltier | 0.512 |
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Stewart is a RW, yay! thanks DD. :)
if Duchene doesn’t play, that’s pretty damn close imo. Maybe Tucker on the 2nd, McLeod on the 3rd, and Stoa on the 4th, but we really have no idea with having never seen Stoa. Hopefully a glimpse at dev camp will tell us.
I still have a hard time playing Svats over Jones and Stewart. This logjam at RW better not hold one of those 2 back in his development…
With those names filling the Avalanche roster, I’d be pretty shocked if Duchene doesn’t play in the NHL this year.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
I still think there’s a good chance that Svatos is moving and a great chance that one of the D-man is moving, so I figure there’s till some changes.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I betting we dump Hannan or Liles now. Clark and Salei will have more value at the deadline, and maybe Preissing too. If it’s Hannan, I don’t think we get anything back of consequence. Liles might bring a fairly nice return (Kessel plz)
Maybe Sacco sees Jones or Stewie as a LW, I don’t know. I just know I’m surprised to see Svatos still here, probably taking playing time from them.
And I wouldn’t count out Mercier from making the team — he impressed the crap out of me at last dev camp, and in the NCAA games I was able to catch.
I’m still curious to see a comparison of Stewart’s offensive numbers while playing on the right side versus playing on the left side. Does anyone have that, or know where to get it?
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 8, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
sigh. I will probably do it when I do stewie’s grade on jibble. an hour of my life i’ll never see again. :)
I can work on it too. not today, though
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions
What is up with Mercier? I know he hasn’t signed yet but it seems bad that he’s not at development camp. Same with Yip.
it is concerning to me too. I don’t know enough about contract negotiations to know whether this is typical, or whether the Avs thought they didn’t need to attend again… It is odd though. Maybe I’ll email Dater about though I’m sure he’s epically busy. Maybe I’ll email their agents instead.
There was an article about Mercier on hf saying how negotiations were stressing him out, and that he wanted to make the team this year. /shrug who knows?
article: http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090625/SPORTS0511/306259889/-1/NEIGHBORS
good find.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090625/SPORTS0511/306259889/-1/NEIGHBORS
see if that fixes the link
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
nope, it doesn’t. you have to copy and paste it into your browser
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m sorry… I keep looking at that list, and it just doesnt look right without Sakic under the “Centers” column. I’m sorry Avs fans… that sucks.
As a side note, thats ALOT of pressure to put on Galiardi on the top line. 11 games in the NHL…. that’s alot to ask. But then again, looking at the LWs to choose from, I guess that might be the only option….
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Current rumored movers from Sports Uncut (who’s has been pretty reliable to this point):
To the Avs: Tanguay, Heatley
From the Avs: Hannan, Salei, Svatos
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
well, I believe the bottom part.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
I believe the bottom for just Tanguay in another pure salary dump move….
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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by Americanario on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Wait a minute, how would Tanguay be in that deal…he hasn’t signed anywhere?
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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by Americanario on Jul 8, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
wow
that would actually be good and stuff. Therefore, ain’t happening.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
i dunno. I’m not sure I want a cap anchor like Heatley’s contract going forward. that’s 5 years of a 7.5 hit. It may fit now, but imagine as all these young guys come into their 1st and 2nd contracts. not good.
besides, what use does Ottawa have for Hannan? makes little sense to me, though I could see them wanting Svatos.
Heatley is not someone I’d like to build around
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Kovalchuk, however…
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Kovalchuk is doable. No homo.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
by Joe Dunman on Jul 8, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't realize his cap hit was that large and that long
That is tough. Wonder what happened to him, anyway. The incident in Atlanta with his friend and teammate really derailed his career? At one point, he was definitely someone you would have thought a team could be built around.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, from everything I’ve read, he’s kind of a douche bag. A douche bag that can score 40+ goals a season, but still a douche bag.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
sounds perfect
for a team with little veteran leadership.
I would really hope to never see Heatley here. That guy has way too many issues. He’d play for a year and then demand to be traded. He must be related to Lindros somehow.
by mcarson01 on Jul 8, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we start out losing 12 of 15 or so he might demand a trade earlier than the end of the season (like All-star break). I don’t want him here.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
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by Americanario on Jul 8, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think we have to worry – I doubt he’d waive his NTC to come here
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Tanguay would be good
if the price is right which it might be since he’s been on the market a while and there is less and less cash available. he’s a good veteran but not ancient player. nothing amazing, but a legitimate player who won’t break the bank.
Love this quote
The Avalanche, are rebuilding with youth.
I know it may take a few years, but if the fans are patient, you may have a great product in the future. I really feel like youth is the way to go. Start from the ground up and see what happens. Those heroes of the mid ‘90s through ’01 started out as young guys and became studs. You’ve got to start somewhere!
I like how you continue to pretend that you are just a casual Avalanche fan. It’s cute.
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
there is a significant part of me that’s kind of excited about next year. not that we’ll do well, but that we’ll be able to see all the youngsters as they progress.
I’ve also found it’s kind of fun to write about shitty teams. :)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
mcarson WILL hate me by the time I’m finished.
:)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, at least I can agree with the comment of being excited about next year. I can’t remember the last time that I was so anxious to get it going. I’m not overly optimistic about getting a lot of wins but I am very optimistic about the youth movement. If a couple rookies come up and shine, I’ll be happy.
I’m almost feeling sorry for Anderson.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 8, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
He signed before they traded Smyth and Super retired, didn’t he. Good thing he loves the area.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
I predicted
he will have the lowest goal support in Avalanche history this coming season. We’ll see . . .
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
i’m actually quite excited. no expectation that this team will do well at all, so let the kids play. ya know? it would have been fun to see joe play one more year with that “let’s just have a good time” environment, but he’s too much of a competitor to do that, i imagine. /sigh i miss him already
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 8, 2009 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree with that, I think there is alot of potential talent coming up, and it will be awesome to see it develop, even with a year or two of suckitude
+1 on using the word sucktitude!
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 8, 2009 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Did Sherm
look at this lineup before pulling the trigger on the Smyth deal? Either other stuff has to be in the works, or he is the dumbest mfer on the planet and we’re going into the season with almost half of our forwards borderline NHLers. Seriously, put all of the lipstick on the pig that you want, but in the end, it’s still a pig.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
borderline NHL guys is a bit of a misnomer — they’re borderline NHL-ready prospects. we do have like 500 potential LWs* we have to figure out if they’re NHL guys, and if so, whether they’re top 6, bottom 6, etc.
*Wolski, Hensick, Galiardi, Stoa, Mercier.
There’s not a better way to find out then throwing them on the top lines. That’s how we found that Hejduk, Drury and Stastny were NHL caliber players. I’m very confident that we have some diamonds in our system and this next year will be the perfect testing ground to find them. I’ll have fun with that regardless of the wins.
Remember, we found the talent of Drury, Hejduk and Stastny (as well as Tanguay) because they got to play next to some seriously talented players. Hejduk scored 50 goals all those years ago when he was paired with Forsberg. Stastny made a big splash and then struggled as the talent around him declined.
Just saying. Hopefully the overall weakness of the Avs doesn’t stifle the development (and statistical milestones) of the young guys.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
Yeah be our top line will have Stastny and Hejduk. However, my point is more that they need the ice time to show that they can play at the NHL level.
However, my point is more that they need the ice time to show that they canplaylose at the NHL level.
We’re on the same page now.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
uh oh
not the “if you think they’re going to suck then you are rooting for them to suck” thing here? There’s a big difference. Think about it.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Usually when somebody makes a passionate argument, they would like to be proven right. So if you want to be proven right, won’t it make you root for that outcome?
My clever use of the strikeout function qualifies as a passionate argument?
I’m rooting for the Avalanche, of course. But I’m no so deluded into thinking a team counting on the talents of Wojtek Wolski, TJ Galiardi, Marek Svatos and Brett Clark is going to do anything but finish last in their division, just like they did last season.
Understanding that my favorite team is going to fail (at least for another year) is definitely not the same as WANTING them to fail.
I have a feeling you’re a “love it or leave it” kind of voter, aren’t you?
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
plus
using the strikeout function could be seen as just a snarky thing designed to get a chuckle. works for me at least.
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 8, 2009 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
No
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Easiest example
If I think the world is coming to an end, and am trying to tell other people this because I, you know, sort of care that the world is coming to an end, it doesn’t mean that I want the world to end. Just so I can just say, “see, I told you so, the world has ended, and we’re all dead and stuff.”
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
What type of attitude would you prefer that the Avalanche players have? Would you want them to be like you and say, “this sucks, we’re going to lose every game, why even try”?
sorry, but that’s apples to oranges. we’re fans. we’re talking about fan opinions. this has nothing to do with the players or what or how they should think
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 8, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Also most of us, were getting upset at the end of last season, because it was obvious we were not going to make the playoffs, It was not likely that the Monsters were going to make their playoffs, yet the management continued to throw out the “we still have a chance” montra instead of calling up young guys and letting them play. Why did we want the young guys to play? Because we would rather lose with guys that were playing hard, than with guys who seemed to not care anymore.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
Players attitude and Fans attitudes are different, and should be.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions
OK Lucy
please ‘splain to me how I have “quit trying.” Because I’m not putting lipstick on the pig? Because I’m not pouring whip cream and sprinkles on the poop? Poor analogy. Of course I want the players to try. I also want them to “win.” But find it highly unlikely that they’ll be doing much of that this coming season.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m not buy any of this. You guys are spending so much time and effort trying to make me believe that the Avs are going to suck this year that you will want the bragging rights if it happens. All of you will be saying “see, I told you they would suck.” And you don’t want me to be saying the same thing which means you want it to happen. Notice how it’s they suck instead of we suck. However, when they win the cup, it’s we won instead of they won. Take some ownership as a fan for the good and the bad.
apparently you did not spend much time in GDTs this past season. we often said, “we suck.” and i don’t think anyone said, “i told you they would suck” even when many made those same predictions last year.
this isn’t about bragging rights. it’s about realism. do i think they will do poorly in the Win-Loss ratio? absolutely. will that stop me from rooting for them every single game?? not a chance. further, will it stop me from sporting a jersey to every game i go to here in So Cal?? no way. hell, i even wear the unipron with pride…well, maybe not pride but that has nothing to do with the logo on the front
Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
by BeachNSnowGirl on Jul 8, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Let me tell you, I want nothing more than to say “see, I was right, my favorite team blows fucking goats for the second straight season.” Nothing feels better than that.
By the way, I never say “we” when talking about the Avalanche because I’m not a member of the team. Others don’t follow this rule, but you won’t see anything I write include that pronoun when talking about the team.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
Notice how it’s they suck instead of we suck.
I was curious about this theory of yours, so I did a search on my posts. I said “we suck” 20 times. Wrong again.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
You seem to have a difficult time separating the opinion and efforts of people (fans) who spend their time and money supporting a business and the opinions and efforts of people (players/management) who are paid to put on an entertainment product. Is the dichotomy so profound that you fail to see the difference?
I pay my money to the NHL every season to see Center Ice. I wake up every morning to the KNOWLEDGE that the Avs won’t be winning the Cup next season without several minor/major miracles happening along the way. Does that mean I don’t want the organization to do everything possible to improve both in the short term and the long and provide me an enjoyable experience, even if the level of enjoyment isn’t as high as it was during the Cup years? Hell no. And to imply that there is something wrong with me and anybody else that realizes that times are thin in Colorado right now and have tempered their expectations accordingly is both an insult to my passion for the team and the sport and degrading to the common intelligence of sports fans.
2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity
by Mike @ MHH on Jul 8, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or
to use a less theoretical example, man-made climate change. There are thousands of scientists arguing that man-made climate change is a serious problem, but they don’t actually want it to happen.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Usually when somebody makes a passionate argument, they would like to be proven right
I find fault with this premise.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Spurious at best.
Nobody here (with the exception of the occasional RW troll) wants this team to do anything but hoist the Cup – EVERY YEAR.
We would love to be proved wrong with our negative forecasts, but fear (and, much to our sorrow, have come to expect) that we’ll be right.
One does not have to buy into the sunshine and rainbows happy horseshit spewed by the various heads of the hydra that is Altitude in order to be a fan.
The Avalanche came to this town and brought a world class organization with them. We were blessed and honored to witness a premier organization do it right for a long while here. They sometimes made mistakes (Fluery), but they did their level best from top to bottom to do it right. In the last few seasons, with the team being run by the accounting department, we have seen this once proud champion devolve into a has been drunkard lying face down in the gutter without the self respect to get up out of his own filth.
The lack of respect generally shown for the organization on this site is simply reciprocation for the “piss on their shoes and tell them its raining” approach taken by the organization towards its fans as witnessed by numerous posts on this site, most eloquent among them Dario’s. We want, hope, pray for this wandering in the desert to cease. We want to be proud again to wear that sweater in public (NOT the Unipron, but that’s a different post). That being said, we don’t want to be the sports fan equivalents of battered wives, constantly returning to our abuser in the vain hope that he/it will change and quit knocking our teeth in and breaking our hearts.
That being said, we don’t want to be the sports fan equivalents of battered wives, constantly returning to our abuser in the vain hope that he/it will change and quit knocking our teeth in and breaking our hearts.
No need to drag Toronto into this.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
That being said, we don’t want to be the sports fan equivalents of battered wives, constantly returning to our abuser in the vain hope that he/it will change and quit knocking our teeth in and breaking our hearts.
And then rationalize and make excuses for why the abuser is repeating said actions.
MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
Part of the "fun" factor
Despite all of the preseason promises and rationale for re-hiring Granato as our head coach last season revolved around two things:
1. This magical, “let them play” up tempo style of hockey Granato would employ (which turned out to be "I am clueless and have no system whatsoever), and
2. How the young players would flourish under him as a result.
Neither happened. The team was, for the most part, dreadful to watch last season, and the young players did not flourish. So, unless Sacco and the new staff are a significant upgrade over Granato and his crew, why would things be different this season when it appears we’ll have even less scoring punch? I hope I’m wrong, of course …. but to be honest, as much as I thought some of the youngsters had some talent, there isn’t anyone on that roster above (Duchene isn’t on it) who I’m looking at as the next Hejduk, Drury, or Stastny.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
So, unless Sacco and the new staff are a significant upgrade over Granato and his crew,
I’m pretty confident this is a true statement, and I know nothing of Sacco.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
here’s some point totals for some guys who played under Sacco last year, projected out to 82 games:
Dupuis 56
Cumiskey 49
Stewart 48
Macias 41
Galiardi 33
Ledin 33
Burki 29
Peltier 25
Not exactly an offensive tour de force, and that’s against AHL competition
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions
not much to indicate that Sacco is going to be good for the offense, unfortunately.
maybe the guy we promote next summer?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
This makes me happy, as it’s the chickens coming home to roost. I think there was a little arrogance there on Detroit management’s part that every player will sign lower than market value contracts just to have the opportunity to play for Detroit.
But in reality no one has. Zetterberg, Franzen and Datsyuk signed long-term deals that pay them market value, they just found a way to circumvent the cap. Hossa signed one last season, for 1 year (as a failed calculated risk thinking the market for his services would be better this year) and claimed he wanted to and bolted.
They are over the cap right now (even though they can send a couple players down). and the only 2 contracts over $2M+ that are coming off their books before 2012-2013 are Lidstrom and Holmstrom, and the cap goes down next season.
I honestly believe we’ll see a Red Wing decline very soon.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
not sure about that, but I am very curious to see what happens to teams with all these crazy contracts when the cap drops
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 8, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I am very curious to see what happens when players turn down a bunch of low ball offers to find there’s nobody out there willing to pay $5 million a year anymore.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
Martin Biron is still waiting for that call! IT COULD HAPPEN!
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think they are going to fall into Isles territory, but I think they will gradually decline to the middle of the pack mediocrity that has affected the Avs the last 3 seasons.
I’m really curious to see how this plays out when the Cap dcreases next season.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 8, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I think that we’re going to see a bunch of teams trading away valuable players to get under the cap. And maybe even some low salary teams giving offer sheets to some young RFA’s. Take a look at Chicago, with all of their big contracts, not only will they be struggling to get under the cap this season, but Toews and Kane are both RFA’s next summer.
by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 8, 2009 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
We could be in a really interesting position next year if we stay with the strategy of being well under the cap.
Yeah, if you consider last place in the Northwest Division as “an interesting position.”
To be successful, teams are going to need to spend to the cap and find the best possible combination of players they can. It’s going to be tough. But if the current roster is any indication, the Avs are using their low-cost strategy to do nothing but score high draft picks.
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
Yeah, if you consider last place in theNorthwest DivisionLeague as "an interesting position."
Fixed.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
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Yeah, if you consider last place intheNorthwest Division Leagueall of organized hockey as “an interesting position.”
And yes, that is what I am rooting for.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 8, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m rooting for the Avs to be demoted to the ECHL.
That kind of system works in the English Premier League, right?
Go Avs! Let's get some goals!
All this unbridled optimism!
But mcarson, seriously, I understand what you are saying. The Avs will most likely end up with a high draft pick at the end of next season, and be under the cap so they can hopefully sign some quality players at reasonable salaries. The rebuild is going to take a few years and I think we here at MHH are just preparing ourselves for it.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
I’ve thought the same thing for the past 5+ years…
Go Avs!
by Mike, (Avs Fan) on Jul 8, 2009 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions
that sports uncut guy
…now reporting tanguay and avs are far apart, phx and nyi are competing for him.
he’d be a great compliment to Tavares, provided you could handle the lack of D.
Auld to the Stars
Dallas found their backup for Turco, as utterly boring as that news is
Another way to look at the offence for the Avalance projected for next year.
Here is a look at the regular season experience among the Avalanche projected forwards as listed above.
Player NHL Regular Season Games
Tucker 876
Hejduk 783
Willsie 376
Svatos 262
Wolski 240
Stastny 193
McCloud 128
Hensick 92
Jones 67
Koci 64
Stewart 53
Galiardi 11
Stoa 0
Total: 3145
Hejduk+ Tucker = 1659 games
All others have just 1486 games
Super Joe had 1378 by himself
Between Tucker and Hejduk they have 53% of the NHL experience among the Avalanche projected forward for next season. The good news – by this time next year a lot of players will have added a significant percentage to their totals. The bad news – a lot of learning will take place.
Many project that Willsie will spend most of the year in LE; without him Svatos and Wolski are 3 and 4 in experience.
I am NOT a Tucker fan – however without his experience this would be a very young group of forwards.
Should be an ‘interesting’ season.
IF ONLY
he were a cantankerous two way foreward who got under the skin of opponents distracting them and allowing those around him to elevate their play from the morale and distraction of the opponent… y’know, kinda like he was supposed to do?
I’m not sure I want him around all those youngsters, whether they’re talented or not :/
I just want Drury back... I recognize the Drury->Morris->Statsny chain, and I stick with the statement.
This year
I’m really excited to see some of these kids play. Duchene may make it on the roster but at this point I don’t think they should rush him if he’s not ready. I really want to see Galiardi on the first line to see how well he can play. For 3 years now they keep saying Wolski’s potential is astronmical. We’ve all seen him in shoot-outs, but is this the year he puts it all together?
yeah
I’m starting to sour on him. He needs a good season. (He’s still more valuable than his play as long as the shootout is around)
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 9, 2009 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I would like him to improve significantly this year offensively. He’s gotten the major holes in his game filled — competing every night, defense, etc — but nows when we find out whether he’s a 40-50 point 2nd/3rd tweener or a 60+ point bonafide top 6 guy.
I for one think he’s going to break out one of these years. He’s just got too many of the tools and works too hard not to have it all fall into place. Remember, he’s younger than Stastny or Hensick. I think he’s got 2 years to get it together, but boy would it be nice this year.
IF we don’t bring in more guys, I think we’re looking at this lineup:
Galiardi – Stastny – Hejduk
Wolski – Duchene – Jones
McLeod – Hensick – Svatos
Stoa – Scrub X – Stewart
Scrub Y
Hannan – Quincey
Liles – Foote
Clark – Salei
Preissing
Anderson
Budaj
With both Smyth and Sakic gone, Duchene is going to make this team, I think. I’m a big Stewie fan, but I think Jones plays a more complete game. the coaches will like that. I still wonder what will happen with Svatos and a defenseman, they seem like good candidates for removal. I could see Sopel + picks/prospects coming here from Chicago too.
Scrub Y =Koci.
And Tucker, unfortunately, won’t be left out of the lineup.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 9, 2009 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Imo, Hensick is scrub Z. Galiardi is nowhere near a top 2 line winger. I’m hoping Jones stays healthy and breaks through this season (even though I’m rooting for the Avs to suck). Brutal forward lineup, even if Duchene is somehow ready to shine already in the NHL, which is highly doubtful.
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 9, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
We’re definitely short a top 6 LW (though Galiardi has a chance of being that guy) and a 3rd line center. I’m not a big Hensick fan either, but that’s the way it goes. Dark times.
In an ideal world, Hensick and Galiardi would both be in the A until injuries hit and we’d sign Manny Malhotra as the 3rd line center til that O’Reilly kid is ready. But that’s not our world the next couple years.
Galiardi is nowhere near a top 2 line winger
On 29 other teams.
by Jibblescribbits on Jul 9, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Jibblekoptdoc'd!
Our 2009-2010 Avs: The towel has been thrown into the rink.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 9, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
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