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Avalanche Roster Down to 29


As expected, the Avalanche made a slew of roster moves following the St Louis game. However, I can't say that the cuts went exactly as expected. All 10 players reassigned are headed to Lake Erie. Let's go throw them by position...

Goalies

Tyler Weiman did not get reassigned following Friday's game. I thought that move might have been made not because he got lit up on Friday (6 goals allowed) but because he now must clear waivers to go to Lake Erie (the waiver period begins today). I suppose with so many teams set at this position (paging Garth Snow...), I suppose the risk of losing Weiman to waivers is small, but I still thought he might go down before the deadline to make sure he didn't get claimed. Craig Anderson, Peter Budaj and Weiman are the three goalies remaining in camp. Anderson and Weiman have each started one preseason game and played the whole way. I imagine we'll see Peter Budaj on Sunday.

Defensemen

The Avalanche reassigned Brian Fahey, Kevin Montgomery, Wes O'Neill and Brett Skinner to the Monsters. Certainly, no surprises there. But, again, the surprise in my eyes is that Kyle Cumiskey did not get demoted and now must clear waivers if he gets sent to Lake Erie going forward. Does that mean he makes the team? Right now, the Avalanche have 10 defensemen in camp, including Cumiskey. Brett Clark, Scott Hannan, Adam Foote, Kyle Quincey, John-Michael Liles, Ruslan Salei and Tom Preissing figure to be locks at this point with Cumiskey, Ryan Wilson and Derek Peltier still kicking around. Injuries could be a factor here - Tom Preissing hasn't played yet due to a "minor" knee injury, but Ruslan Salei has missed both preseason games as well as the Burgundy and White game. I'm not going to go all grassy knoll on the Salei thing yet, but if he's not on the ice on Sunday...

Wilson and Peltier can both be sent down without needing to clear waivers.

Forwards

Yes, all eyes are on Matt Duchene who scored a goal and an assist last night against the Blues. But there is one other junior player still in camp: Ryan O'Reilly. It's obvious that the Avalanche want to give both players a good look, as the pair as they've appeared in both preseason games. At this point, you have to like Duchene's odds of making the team. It's a stretch to say the same for Radar at this point, but could he be kept around for a couple of regular season games before going back to Erie (that's OHL, not AHL)?

The Avalanche still have 16 forwards left after cutting Philippe Dupuis, Darren Haydar (bummer), Justin Mercier, Marty Sertich, Brian Willsie and Brandon Yip. We've talked before about the 10 forwards who I figure are in: Stastny, Hejduk, Wolski, Svatos, Tucker, Jones, Stewart, Hensick, Koci and McLeod. I think we can probably add Duchene to that, leaving 2 or 3 open spots. Those still in the mix for those final few spots are O'Reilly, Matt Hendricks, Chris Durno, Ryan Stoa and T.J. Galiardi. Durno and Hendricks will need to clear waivers now, but the risk of losing either should be considered minimal.

The Avalanche need a 4th center (behind Stastny, Duchene and Hensick) and with the demotion of Willsie and Dupuis it would seem to help the chances of Galiardi and Hendricks immensely as both have played center in the preseason. Stoa is still in the mix as well, but I'll be surprised if Durno makes the squad.

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Not too sure that Koci makes it. Hope he doesn’t. Send Koci and Durno down. Can’t possibly imagine the Avs would send Cumiskey (21 years old) down as he’d be plucked for sure. Why risk losing a young kid with high potential for some aging vets when it is a clear re-build? I thought I read something earlier in the year that Sacco fully intends on utilizing Cumiskey this year….can’t remember the source. Maybe Salei is getting traded and held out for that reason….? I’d have to think that the Avs are trying hard at this point to move one or two of their old (and overpaid) d-men……even for a sack of broken hockey sticks if necessary.

by Peeter on Sep 19, 2009 2:32 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, easy with the word “old.” Some of us around here were born before 1980 and even a few who are older than every player on the team.

Also, even a team in the midst of a rebuild needs veteran leadership. The younger players need that calming influence and source of wisdom that comes from playing in the NHL for 10, 15 or more years.

That said, I think it’s likely a couple of the older players will move at the trade deadline, but this team is now amongst the youngest in the league. How much younger can it really go before there’s a negative impact?

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Anything is possible.

"To all the cynics, I'm sorry for you, ... I'm sorry you can't believe in miracles."
-Lance Armstrong

by BeachNSnowGirl on Sep 19, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant older d-men….not necessarily “old”. Footer is the only player on the team older than I am….

I agree with you about the veteran leadership but my thought (and hope) is that it would be great if they would be able to trade (or be willing to send down) at least one of the older d-men, such as Salei, Preissing, or Clark to give Cumiskey a chance this year.

As far as Koci goes (and I admit I haven’t seen him play), it seems like Hendricks (if he makes it) or Stewart could fill the role as necessary. While not heavyweights, they would be able to stand up to most guys in the league, and they can put points on the board. If he does make it, he’ll probably be a healthy scratch most of the time anyway….

by Peeter on Sep 19, 2009 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I am one of the few who still don’t understand all this Cumiskey “potential.” Again, he is fast, fast, fast…but in all the games I have seen him (LE and Avs) in…he is so easily pushed off the puck, and is a turnover machine.

Maybe he will prove me wrong one day, but right now I have seen nothing that would make me keep a Cumiskey on an NHL club. Not even a rebuilding one.

My 2 cents

by chiavsfan on Sep 20, 2009 6:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t he pretty injury-prone too?

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-Lance Armstrong

by BeachNSnowGirl on Sep 20, 2009 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, two season ago he was one of the very few d-men I was actually comfortable with carrying the puck out of the d-zone. Though I do wonder sometimes he’d make a better forward…

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

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by Americanario on Sep 20, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Koci will make it. The Avs always love to have a goon on the team.

Makes me wonder if Salei and or Preissing will start the season on IR or do you begin to speculate on a trade?

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by Angélique C. Murray on Sep 19, 2009 2:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see a trade at this point, but I guess there is a small chance of that.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m actually starting to wonder if Preissing is headed for Lake Erie

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that, too.

by c0nquistad0rian on Sep 19, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they HOPE Preissing will get claimed off waivers and I don’t think you a question the Kings management on evaluating defensemen and Preissing’s place in the AHL last year. I think he was a pure salary dump for the Smyth deal.

by Dario on Sep 19, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would somebody claim him off waivers if the Avs don’t want him?

by mcarson01 on Sep 19, 2009 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one will. wishful thinking

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

did they try re-entry last year?

by thedoctor on Sep 19, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think so.

I’m not knocking him, just figure if he cleared a few months ago he’s going to clear now

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on, that one time a couple of years ago he was really good. You know, a couple of years ago.

by Dario on Sep 19, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh...

They could be here…

YES, PREISSING IS AWESOME!

So long Super Joe. In a class of your own in every sense of the word.

by Drakenlot on Sep 19, 2009 11:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

“sometimes I feel like, somebody’s watching me……”

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Sep 20, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too!

it’s the strangest thing. whenever i’m at an Avs game, i just get this weird feeling someone’s looking up in the stands at me, watching me. i have no idea why.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Anything is possible.

"To all the cynics, I'm sorry for you, ... I'm sorry you can't believe in miracles."
-Lance Armstrong

by BeachNSnowGirl on Sep 20, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fact is,

of late, you’ve been more compelling than what’s been going on out on the ice.

Not that I’m not sure that you are Venus reincarnate, but

/Sigh

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 20, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well anytime a good looking woman is stripping in the stands it should be more interesting than a bunch of clothed men on the ice.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Sep 20, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

a simpler way to look at the above

right now, 6 guys still to be cut

Weiman, Wilson, Peltier and Durno are 4.

that leaves Cumiskey, Stoa, O’Reilly, Galiardi and Hendricks fighting for 3 spots. I would say Cumiskey, Hendricks and Galiardi are the 3 most likely at this point.

also worth noting that the Avs could very conceivably pick up someone on waivers as other teams make some cuts.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 3:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s obvious that the Avalanche want to give both players a good look, as the pair are (I believe) the only two players to appear in both preseason games.

They are the two rookie players who played both games. Wolski also played in both pre-season games thus far.

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Sep 19, 2009 3:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Duchene and O’Reilly are the two rookies….

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Sep 19, 2009 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry – missed Wolski

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 19, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

puzzled by keeping Cumiskey up

Weiman, I don’t see as a big risk — the whole league is set on their 2 NHL goalies. But Cumiskey? Implies to me that there’s either an injury or 2 (Salei and Preissing are still absent, as you noted), or that we’re working on a trade.

NYR have been public about wanting another veteran defenseman. They just signed Dubinsky for 1.85m cap hit…I could see us moving Salei over there or something, assuming he’s not hurt.

by thedoctor on Sep 19, 2009 3:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You also have to factor in that Sacco was the coach in Lake Erie. His best player was Cumiskey before he was called up and injured. You know he has to have a special fondness for the flying Cumiskey. That should also put in to perspective his feelings on Weiman, Hensick and Jones who all had some success under his regime in Lake Erie.

by Dario on Sep 19, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he doesn’t let that sentimentality get in the way of what’s best for the team. We’ve seen that way too much the past few years.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Anything is possible.

"To all the cynics, I'm sorry for you, ... I'm sorry you can't believe in miracles."
-Lance Armstrong

by BeachNSnowGirl on Sep 19, 2009 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I just hope that we can make the NYR connection in dumping, er, trading a “veteran” defenseman before the Leafs do. They also have about 12 pairing still up with the big club.

And one can’t forget the allure of one Mr. Jeff Finger…

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - "Hey Brother, can you spare a Left Winger?"

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 20, 2009 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do miss being able to say…
“Finger’s into the zone, Finger shoots, Finger scores!”

MHH: Like the Avs organization, we’ve now officially lost our minds.

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Sep 20, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed saying

“Give ’em the Finger, Avs. Give ’em the Finger.” But it wasn’t worth what Toronto paid him.

The sad state of our forward depth is shown by Hensick being a lock and one of our top 3 centers? Yuck. I was really hoping that Haydar would pan out to give us much needed scoring punch. And man would it ever still be nice if they could unload one of their bajillion overpaid D-men for more forward depth.

Where will you be on October 1st, 2009 at 6:45 PM Mountain Time?

by Bob in Boulder on Sep 21, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hensick looks to be either the 5th RW or the 4th center. I think Stats, Boy wonder and Galiardi are our top-3 center.

I’m okay with that development too.

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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 21, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Stats, Boy wonder and Galiardi are our top-3 center.

Sure looks like Radar will get his 9 games at the least too. Absent Radar, I’d sure like to see Hendricks and Durno on the bottom line (don’t really care who takes the wing and who takes center, though I guess Durno’s a natural C).

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by Hopfenkopf on Sep 21, 2009 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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