Game 49 Recap: Avalanche 6, Oilers 0
I have been waiting for a game like this. The Avalanche didn't play down to their opponent and they never sat on their lead. They played hard every shift and were rewarded with their most convincing win of the season. The Avs have their first four game winning streak since October and are firmly back in control of the Northwest (Calgary continued their slide tonight by getting absolutely destroyed by San Jose).
The first period took a while to get going. Ryan Wilson got hit by Jean-Francois Jacques and went face first into the boards. Wilson didn't return but I'm not sure how serious the injury is. Shortly there after, Zach Stortini and Cody McLeod fought the good fight in a fairly even matchup. The Avs seemed to get the boost though as John-Michael Liles busted into the zone a minute later and put a shot on net. Matt Duchene got the rebound in front and shrugged off a defender to poke it through Jeff Deslauriers legs and Liles swooped in for the easy tap in. The Avs kept the pressure on and, this is the first time I've seen this, two Oilers were called for minor obstruction penalties on the same play, giving the Avalanche a two minute 5 on 3. On the pp, Wojtek Wolski got it on net and Duchene, showing some quick hands, slammed in the rebound.
The second continued the same way with Chris Stewart tipping in a Kyle Quincey slapper for his 16th of the season. Late in the period Kyle Cumiskey showed off his great speed by flying through the neutrel zone to pick up a loose puck and creating a 2 on 1 with Paul Statsny. Statsny and Cumiskey worked a perfect give and go to finish off one of the prettiest plays of the season.
The Avs took a penalty early in the third but the Oilers negated it by taking two quick ones of their own to give the Avs a 4 on 3. Cumiskey got his 2nd of the night with a nice shot from the high slot. Then Duchene, who seems to get better and better every night, crashed the net with Brandon Yip and got his 2nd of the night. Anderson stopped 24 relatively weak shots to gather his 4th shutout and 24th win. The top six were dynamite for the Avs tonight with every one of them getting at least one point. Wolski, Statsny and Stewart have proved that they are as good as any line in this league. The second line of Yip, T.J. Galiardi and Duchene is ridiculous. Three rookies centered by a kid who just turned 19 and they were the best line on the ice tonight. The defense was even better, factoring in on 5 of tonight's 6 goals. And there were only 5 of them through most of the game.
Dustin's Three Stars
3rd Star - Kyle Cumiskey - first two goal game of his career. His first one was a thing of beauty.
2nd Star - John-Michael Liles - a goal and two assists (was three but Galiardi got credit for one of them). Liles has been feeling the heat from Joe Sacco and tonight he made a big statement. I hope he keeps it up as Liles was always one of my favorites.
1st Star - Matt Duchene - two goals and an assist. Duchene never seems to stop playing. He has grown a lot over the season and his line was dominant tonight. I can't say enough good things about this kid.
Instead of a minus of the night (the entire Oilers team was horrible) I'm gonna toss out some honorable mentions. Wojtek Wolski continued his breakout season with 3 assists. T.J. Galiardi and Brandon Yip were both outstanding on the forecheck. Chris Stewart picked up another 2 points. His value to this team is immeasurable. A big, fast player who can score goals and win fights? Yeah, they're not too easy to find. Craig Anderson didn't have to make too many big stops but he was there when we needed him. San Jose kicked the crap out of Calgary tonight, beating them 9 to 1, which is too awesome for words. What a great night for hockey.
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The New Improved Avalanche. Now with Real Coaches!
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2010 11:25 PM MST reply actions
I wouldn’t have put this in the fan post if I’d have known I’d get a golden opportunity to use it so soon.
The New Improved Avalanche. Now with Real Coaches!
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2010 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
Or...
Maybe you could use it so soon because it appeared in the FanPost.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions
great post game dustin!!
i’d just like to mention that it was nice to see the boys as a whole win this one without andy bailing them out, yes it’s nice to have a goalie that can do that, but we’re going to kill the guy if we kept it up..
we got all the breaks tonight, i mean yes it’s the oilers, but like you mentioned, that second line was money, and just think, they only get better from here
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
During the postgame show
Peter McNab made mention of something that I hadn’t thought of, our top 6 forwards are an average age of 22 years old! Let that sink in for a minute…22 YEARS OLD! Oh yeah, and our #3 center, Radar O’Reily, is still just 18 years old.
It is really scary to think about how good this team could be for long time if we can keep this core group of young players together. Now I know that Greg Sherman is still the GM, but Pierre is still a big piece of the puzzle. That being said, I’m always a little worried.
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P.S. Great recap Dustin! :-)
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kinda makes me feel i’ve done jack shit with my life…im 21
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
Me too. Damn these young’uns and there “talent” and “ambition” and “hard work.” They’re making us look bad.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
if only they ‘read blogs’ ‘drank excess amounts of beer’ and ‘had a little less money’
oh and ate cheezy poofs
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
grrrrrr
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 6:49 AM MST up reply actions
This about sums it up for me too.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
I live in a van down by the river
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
by smoky201 on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for the awesome snl reference
'I googled what the white stuff in a Ho-Ho was, i found out it has NINE cups of sugar..that will KILL YOU, it would turn your blood into fruit punch!'
-1 for truthiness
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I’m 25 still in College.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
This makes me think they'll make the playoffs.
With the third-period nightmares and the losing to ass-ball teams like Carolina, up until today I was fairly confident, in a “I hope I’m wrong” way, that the Avs (I’d say “we” but I know “we” hate that here) were going to have a hard time slipping into the top eight.
But this is what good teams do. When you play the Oilers, you need to crush them. Up until tonight, I didn’t hold out much hope for crushing anyone.
What a statement, though.
“Hi, we’re a bunch of plucky youngsters who are having a great time playing the game and learning our way around the league” has just turned into, over the past week:
“Hi, we’re a bunch of plucky youngsters who are going to skate circles around you, jam your sticks up your holes, punch you in the mouth and make you wonder which plucky truck just ran over your ass.”
So good. And Chris Stewart still looks like Tom Morello, I don’t care what anyone says.
You know… like puck handling skills, fast skating skills, face punching skills.. Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 18, 2010 11:51 PM MST up reply actions
Great skills… Yep, women only want boyfriends with great skills.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
He also had the biggest save of the night on a pinball puck that went to an open Oiler on the backside of the play. 2nd star indeed.
The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.
Altitude’s stars tonight are Cumiskey Lyle
Sending chills up our spine Matt Duchesne
Finally back to his style Beachie’s Liles
Poor Oilers were engulfed on Avs’ mountain!
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Alors, je vais vous le confier...
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
Oops, not Duchesne, but Duchene. Sorry, Matt, hope you won’t knock me up with the fast hands of yours… ;-)
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Alors, je vais vous le confier...
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by god's clown on Jan 19, 2010 12:21 AM MST up reply actions
moltobenny wrote:
I don’t think he can knock you up with his hands.
Yeah, I think I should have wrote “knock me out”? Now that I think of it, “knock up” is getting someone pregnant, isn’t it? Darn, I would hate Duchene trying to get me pregnant, I really do prefer women, nothing personal here, Matt… ;o)
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Alors, je vais vous le confier...
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
He’s a little young, but at least he’s legal now.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
Not that there's anything wrong with that
Though I do think my girlfriend would hate it. She’s getting quite the crush on Dutchy.
I’m happy to say I’ve created a new Avs fan over the last week or so.
I would also like to point out that Matt Duchene’s 3 point night has moved him into first in rookie point scoring.
Mad props, son.
Thanks Joe...
Yes, you are right, mfured, he is at the top of the rookies and I heard a few times that Duchene was at his best in the second half of the season, just like last year in the juniors. I think that in the last run of the season, it is going to be great watching this kid grow more and more confident! :o)
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Alors, je vais vous le confier...
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
I went to see him a few times when he was in the Juniors. I didn’t notice him the first game, the second time I was cursing his name, the third I was loving it and hoping against all hope that we’d get him.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
The Flames
Is it just me or do they really, really need a backup goalie – McElhinney is terrible (0.885 SV% is Vesa Toskala bad)?
Re Toskala
That guy had a very good career until a season-ending surgery in March 2009. See in english Wikipedia:
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
Sorry about the link, here it is for english Wikipedia.
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Alors, je vais vous le confier...
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
I will sound like a broken record here but if your centers suck, it doesn’t matter if your top pairings are all star Norris caliber players. Bad centers lead to scoring chances in the NHL. Calgary keeps spending money on non-centers and they will continue to suffer for it.
oh you mean like
having Arnason, Guite, and McCormick you top centers? (not that I didn’t like Guite and McCormick)
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Yip Yip, Hooray!
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Hahahahahahahaha!
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Alors, je vais vous faire une confidence...
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From Nordiques to Avalanche, from Quebec city to Denver, it's a neverending exciting love story!
Without Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos
Thinking of it, playing without Hejduk (for at least two weeks) and Svatos (if only he could get back his self confidence for scoring sigh), this young team is pretty impressive. And to think that Jones isn’t there either.
The more and more the rookies progress through this season, the more we can see how they are eager to learn from their mistakes so they can play better. It was not until one week ago that I saw appear a really better control of the puck, less panicking when an opponent tries to squeeze them, which meant before bad and hurried pass to another squeezed player, mostly along the boards. Now they seem to prefer going back a little and stay in control of the puck.
I agree with you, Derek B., when you write: “It is really scary to think about how good this team could be for long time if we can keep this core group of young players together.”
And if they continue to have flair for the next NHL drafts like they did with O’Reilly, they will really be like an avalanche burrying most of the other teams, like a polar bear on a nice tender juicy human being, like a… hmmm… I guess I’ll just shut up…
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Alors, je vais vous faire une confidence...
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Avs remain perfect on Mondays
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 5:28 AM MST reply actions
Yep, 7-0.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
Best comment of the night from the Flames announcers
“And Colorado wins 6-0. Gosh that score looks familiar. Alberta zero, NHL 12.”
Make that Alberta 1, NHL 15
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Kurtenblog
had a couple good ones on twitter:
“Whoever had Alberta +15, hold on for a wild finish in San Jose.”
“So the Flames drop a heartbreaker, 9-1 to the Sharks…postgame show brought to you by…Christ I can’t find it…the hell with it!
The New Improved Avalanche. Now with Real Coaches!
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 7:12 AM MST up reply actions
That’s all we got, 1 god-damn goal?
You can’t say god-damn on the radio?
Eh, don’t worry, no one was listening anyway (after the 1st period I’m guessing)
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
I actually watched that for the first time the night before the Oilers game, It’s pretty damn good. Now I have to try and find it on DVD along with the Wraith. It could take a while.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
cough/torrent/cough/download/cough.
Just sayin’
Get rid of the loser point
Beer: breakfast of champions
Thats likely my only option, although I’d prefer the DVD. Annoying thing is I once found it on DVD and didn’t get it assuming it would be there for a while, nope. 6 years later and I’m still looking for it.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
Major League DVD cheap on Amazon
The Wraith DVD less cheap on Amazon
Granted, these are both region 1, so that could pose a problem, but…
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I had some DVD’s that were region 4, I believe it was region 4, and when I got here (Canada) I was looking for that kind of DVD player. The salesperson took me to cheapest DVD player there was. Apparently they are so cheap they don’t put the region restrictions in it. May be an idea?
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 20, 2010 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
We go back home (for my wife at least) to Singapore pretty frequently (Region 3?? I think?) and get lots of shows you can’t get here in NA. They sell DVD players (either really cheap or moderately expensive ones) that are multi-region / universal.
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I’ve got the cheap DVD and it plays the balinese knock off dvds fine so I think you’re right about them not having a restriction in it, I’m not sure if Amazon ships DVDs overseas, I don’t see why not but they wouldn’t ship a PS1 game over years ago so they might have some crazy rules.
The Savage has spoken. Let it be done
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost
If you buy from individual sellers (used merchandise mostly, but some new), many will ship overseas. I know I do when I sell on Amazon. Costs more (+/-US$12 IIRC), but you’ll get your stuff.
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McLeod
am I the only one who was surprised that McLeod actually agreed to fight Stortini? I think it fired up the team a little as well
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 7:02 AM MST reply actions
It looked to me like Stortini kind of just jumped him, and he didn’t have much of a choice. I could be wrong though.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Jan 19, 2010 7:32 AM MST up reply actions
I think McLeod's eye was still making him wary
He’s been more physical of late and I think he’s willing to risk his face again.
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Stortini scares me…I have nightmares when I see up close photos of him
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
I dislike him. I dated a guy who followed the Oilers and so watched many of their games. He often hits guys after they are down, he has no fighting skills (I think Koci has better technique), and he isn’t a pest as much as he jumps random people.
I went to a game he jumped Lappy, Lappy fought him (beat him) and once they were on the ground Stortini kept hitting Lappy. Lappy was pissed.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
My seats were 10 ft from the initial hit on Strudwick, they moved on towards the net and stortini pretty much jumped him there.
I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
The best microcosm for last night is
The Galiardi and Duchene forecheck in the 3rd period. The Oilers had 3 players trying to break out and those two guys basically pinned them in for a minute.
I am not sure why Bigfoot showed up last night and hung out for the whole time, but I think he likes when we have 4 goal leads not 2 goal leads.
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I like that the Avs put the peddle down harder in the 3rd period. Great finish. And I can remember some folks on the Avs forum saying Cumiskey and Stewart were not NHL material. Stewart is a frickin ice beast! Hope Wilson is okay and gets back on the ice quickly. Bad hit, full force from behind. The NHL needs to look at that one. Good game across all four lines. The smiles of the players on the bench says it all.
I am someone who said Cumiskey would never make a good full-time NHL player. I’ll enjoy my crow, thank you.
But you have to admit, outside of his speed, Cumiskey never showed much else…but right now he is showing good hands, and a decent shot that he’s not afraid to unleash. I still think he’s a bit rough in the actual defensive game, but again, he’s been paired with a “stay at home” almost all year…so he hasn’t been a liability in any way
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
I said it too. Not on Stewart, though. I thought he was going to have a big year this year.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 8:14 AM MST up reply actions
As for Stewart, I don’t think many people questioned his skill or ability…it was his drive they questioned, and early in the season that was logical, he just looked disinterested. After he was sent down though, he came back, and me likey the results!
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
couldn’t help but think about the Koci hit on Green there. kind of similar plays. I too hope Mitch is back soon too.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 8:13 AM MST up reply actions
I missed it but caught it on the replay and had the same thought.
The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.
I only saw the live hit, and then the immediate replay, I haven’t watched it again this morning…. my first impression was that Wilson saw the hit coming a bit and turned his back on it to protect the puck. my initial thought was that it was certainly a reckless hit, but that Wilson was partially responsible for the fact that it was on the numbers and that he was in such a vulnerable position. Again, that was just my initial impression, I’ll have to go dig up the reply and watch it again. To me that was kind of the fundamental difference between that hit and the Green hit.
I was thinking along those lines as well. I still think Green may have seen Koci, but pretty sure Wilson saw his guy coming in. Wilson did turn into the boards trying to reverse the puck and therefore did put himself in a bad position. However, the Oiler player should also realize that Wilson was in a bad position and at least let up a bit on the hit. I was not unhappy that they didn’t call a penalty, but I am still surprised there wasn’t one.
There shouldn’t be a suspension for the same reasons Koci wasn’t suspended…but since there was no penalty on the play, it wouldn’t surprise me to see the NHL give one here.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
Quote of the night:
From the place where people who ride the short bus post…TSN.
CanuckFan4Life
coreymm…Afraid of what? your ‘so called’ team just beat the Oilers, whoop de doo, what does that prove? does that prove your team is a contender No! at the moment chimps on skates can beat the Oilers. Right now I’m wishing the Canucks do matchup with your team in the playoffs so we can obliterate your Avs they are the biggest pretenders in the western conference, that will be proven if they do make the playoffs.
:)
"It comes from motivation within" - Matt Hendricks
Mile High Mayhem just another ho-hum Avs blog.
When is the next game against the Canuckleheads? I hope the Avs make him eat his words. The Avs need another game against the Nucks like they had the 2nd game of the season.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
The give-and-go with SoS or the lazer from the point? They were both pretty sweet for totally different reasons.
The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.
Probably the give-and-go. The pass by SoS, was truly the sick part, talk about threading the proverbial needle.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions
Since I am bored in class
Anderson is second in the league in penalties and tied for first in assists. Awesome.
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I feel bad for Chris Stewart...
he will receive no trophy for this season, and he’s been one of the most consistent on the team
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 19, 2010 9:04 AM MST reply actions
Stanley Cup?
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A ring.?
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
Oooh, a shiny, heavy contract.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
A bobblehead?
If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.
no
he need to be one of those rockem sockem toys, where they punch.
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“Rockem Sockem Robots” the Avs version.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
anyone can get a Stanley Cup…look at Ruslan Fedotenko; maybe if he gets to sleep with it…

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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 19, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
Damn...
didn’t work
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Oilers
they reminded me of the Avs last year. Horrible turnovers, terrible defensive lapses, stupid penalties. At one point in the game they were on the power play and they get called for a stupid penalty. The camera freezes on Souray’s face as he rolls his eyes with this “I am in f*cking groundhog day” look . Isn’t nice to be on the other side of those teams?
Oh, and I know they Avs were playing great in the third, because I fell asleep the that 4 minutes of the game to hear the announcer say “Anderson gets a shutout!”
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I really would be in favor of taking on Souray's salary for that point shot.
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So would I, but what would we have to give up?
If the Oil are willing to do a straight up salary dump, say, Souray for two of the following: Tucker/Svatos/Clark/Hensick, who both clear cap at the end of the year, plus say, a pick (2nd?), I’d be all over that. If not, I’m not sure what I’d be willing to give up for a bomb from the point with middling defensive skills.
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Tucker is going no where
Sorry. I have this feeling that the front office likes his veteran leadership and his connection to O’Reilly.
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I was going to suggest a trade for Souray, but thought I’d get chastized here.
I do think the Avs would have to give up a prospect – blueliner, I assume – to get him, despite Souray’s ridiculous contract
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
I think
Taking into account the teams that suck and will be dealing, and our need for a point shot, he’s the best fit. I mean there is always Thomas Kaberle rumors, but ex-maple leafs have never worked out well for us.
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I would say a good fit, but those 2 remaining years at $5.4 million are a tad worrisome
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
this
I like Souray’s point shot, but I’m not really willing to take on that contract. the only reason that contract might be ok is that the Avs money for the younger guys (O’Reilly, Duchene, etc) probably won’t be needed until after his contracts up.
But yeah.. I’m not really sold on Souray to the Avs. It’s a good solution for this season, but I’m not sure what it adds for the future.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
as much as i like souray’s point shot, he is a GIANT defensive liability, he’s a lazy ass skater, doesn’t get back fast enough…
last year, for having 53 points and 20 goals (ok most of them were on the pp) he was only a +1..remember we’re only 4 years removed from his horrendous -28
in his time with edmonton, he’s only played close to a full season once…
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yeah
As a deadline rental I’d take him, but I wouldn’t really take him, and his contract, for anything else.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
oh yah, i’d take him as a rental too..but nothing, NOTHING more then that..
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agree
He wouldn’t fit well on this team at all anyways.
Ok that settles it, i’m pretty much in the “No” camp. In fact I wouldn’t even trade him for Darcy Tuckers expiring contract
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
That begs the question
Is there any player that suits our needs that is obtainable?
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Kovalchuk
I think the Avs could use a rental LW:
Whitney would be my top choice. Kariya my second (both should be available)
As far as defensemen with a point shot, other than Souray (DO NOT WANT) I think the Avs best bet is to hope Salei comes back healthy after the Olympics.
I don’t think the Avs should trade for more than a rental this season (and even then, they shouldn’t pay a lot). Salei has the best shot of potential UFAs that I think would be available.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Oh
I forgot about Whitney. I like him.
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karyia?? didn’t we try him?? did he not set career lows here?
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He was injured a lot and never really found his stride, but I thought he played well. Unlike Selanne, who was hurt the whole year with a crap knee and played like crap as well. Not that I don’t understand that. I was really excited when those two signed, but just disappointed that it didn’t work out. I don’t hold any grudge against either player.
Get rid of the loser point
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And kept that knee injury to himself, until AFTER he had blamed Tony Granato for his bad play. THAT is why I hold a grudge against Selanne…not Kariya
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
Also, another issue that i fear might arise
If Davy comes back what happens. He played amazing with SoS. But then again anyone does. Doe’s he go down and take Yip’s place? But then what about Hejduk. All of a sudden we have an overload.
We likely keep stewart up. Have Duchene center Hejduk and Davy and a 3rd/4th of O’Reilly/Galiardi/Yip?.
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I think those things have a funny way of working themselves out. I would say if Jones and Hejduk came back today, the top line would stay intact, Duchene would play with Hejduk and Yip and the 3rd line would be O Reilly, Galiardi and Jones.
Which would be excellent.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
O’Reilly ccould desperately use some better linemates. I have no qualms putting Jones on the third line with him.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
If Jones makes it back this year then that line sounds great! What scoring depth we will have on the top three lines next year. Stoa will have to be worked in somewhere next year.
Wolski/Stastny/Stewart
Hejduk/Duchene/Jones
Galiardi/O’Reilly/Yip
Not with this team.
He might have some trouble cracking the lineup.
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Not on the left side. Wolski and Galiardi are really our only LWers (and Galiardi is a converted centers).
Stewart, Jones, Hejduk, Svatos and Yip are all RWers naturally. the Avs could use a LWer, and I hoope Stoa makes the jump, but I’m not confident he can.
By the way, for the next 10 years or so, the Avs lineup for C and RW looks set.
Stats-Stewart
Duchene-Jones
O’Reilly-Yip
Hendricks
That’s 4 solid centermen for the next 10 years, and 3 RWs. Plus Galiardi and, probably, Wolski on the left. That’s a real real solid core
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Stoa
Stoa is starting to figure it out in Lake Erie. He’s 3rd on the team in scoring and leads the team with 18 goals. He’s the prototypical power forward prospect and will have to go through the same kind of curve that Stewart experienced.
Perfect
he should be coming into his own I would guess 2011-20-12. That would be a pretty good timetable for the Avs
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I’m afraid he might be target No. 1 for any team wanting to do business with the Avs. And to be honest, the lineup is getting pretty tough to crack for a top-6 guy.
If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.
No argument re: Stoa as a potential target, but are you convinced he’s a top 6 forward? Not sure that I am yet. I think he’ll more than likely top out in the middle 6 (2nd/3rd line).
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No, I’m not convinced at all. But then, I wasn’t convinced about Stewie until 20 games ago.
I just figured Stoa to be that kind of player. More of a scorer than a grinder. I could be way off though.
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Here's what I'm thinking for next year (perhaps even late this year)
Wolski – Stastny – Stewart
Galiardi – Duchene – Hejduk
Yip – O’Reilly – Jones
McLeod – Hendricks – Stoa/Durno
OMG! That would be a scary, scary set of forwards to face!
BTW – I want you all to know how hard it was not to us a single nickname there.
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I know this will likely result in a banning for even bringing this up, but could Milan Hejduk be on the market?
Pros of moving him: He’s a known commodity that could bring a No. 1 pick in return. His spot will be filled by a the guys we are currently replacing him with.
Cons: He’s Milan Freakin’ Hejduk. We have him at a great price.
I’m going to go wash my hands now after typing this.
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I know this will likely result in a banning for even bringing this up, but could Milan Hejduk be on the market?
Pros of moving him: He’s a known commodity that could bring a No. 1 pick in return. His spot will be filled by a the guys we are currently replacing him with.
Cons: He’s Milan Freakin’ Hejduk. We have him at a great price.
I’m going to go wash my hands now after typing this.
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Nope
The Avs are in a playoff run, so they won’t trade one of their loyal (and reasonably priced) assets.
The Avs need experienced forwards who can score.
He’s been a loyal franchise platyer, and a nice marketing link to the cup years. The Avs need to not only have an exciting end to the season, but they need the marketing to sell tickets for next season. Getting rid of Hejduk is counter-productive for that.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
This.
And they need his leadership down the stretch.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
If it was set that Hejduk was retiring, and he had never won a cup (a la Bourque), and the Avs were out of the playoff race…then maybe.
As is, Hejduk will finish this contract with the Avalanche. He’s never played anywhere else, has won a cup, and can still teach these young bucks a thing or two. Sure the knee is worrisome, but not that worrisome.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
Seriously though. He was signed on for one more year in order for him to retire as an Av.
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I think he’ll end up playing for an additional year or two. He’s only 33 right now. I could see him playing for 2-3 more years.
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no chance Hejduk gets traded. and I think he retires when his next contract ends
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
I meant he’ll play another few years with the Avs. I don’t think he’s close to retiring.
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I think it all depends on his knee. A little while back he said he was looking forward to playing a few more years after this contract ends (10-11). But if the knee isn’t fixed this time, or he continues to have struggles, next season could be his last.
Hopefully he’s able to stick around a while longer, but in that I see him signing year by year, like Sakic did.
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
I think he might even retire at the end of this year, it obviously depends on his knee though.
In the past, what little glimpse of emotion he has showed has been that he is tired of dealing with it. Combine that with him not playing in the Olympics, and he may just be saving himself for this one last push, and call it a career.
I hope I’m wrong, but I could see it.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, the knee has been a concern for awhile for him. I could see him retiring after this year if its a PITA. With the way this team is going, it would have to be a HUGE PITA though, I think he’d want to stay and help the team if we could be a contender in the next year or two. That seems to have an OK chance of happening, and I think it will influence his decision.
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That’s what I said a couple of weeks ago and no one believed me! You all listening now?? Huh? Huh?? J/K. I would be surprised if he returned next year unless this recent surgery makes a drastic difference in his level of play. Duke’s the kind of guy who will go out gracefully.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
I loved having Dutchy and Yip together. They had some serious chemistry going on.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
O’Reilly lives in his house.
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In Dater’s (or was it Frei’s?) article recently about O’Reilly’s upbringing in the foster home, they quoted Tucker talking about how great Radar is with the kids, and what a wonderful home environment they have. Now, that could just be media fluff, but I suspect that it’s true…. I think that Tucker and O’Reilly really do have a great connection, and trading Tucker away in his last year for some rental player might not factor into it as much.
I am sure that this team will not mortgage the future for the short run. They are just as pleasantly surprised by the team as we are, and see its potential. Trading away a veteran, even Tucker, could cause more damage in the long run than gain in the short. I suspect that, even though they do not intend to re-sign Tucker at the end of the year, they want to show solidarity with the team, loyalty to their guys, and build this strong team stronger through those means.
Showing a bunch of still maturing young kids that the team is ready to throw away one of the only ‘leaders’ for some BS rental player who will be gone at the end of the year would disrupt that team building spirit. Let the team weather the season as one, season the kids to the idea of trading as business and not some kind of betrayal, and make our serious run at the cup next year. And the year after that. And the year after that.
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I’m thinking that they might resign Tucker. The brass thinks he will be the player we all saw the first 5-10 games of this season. For how he plays he continues to receive a good amount of ice time. He is also a member of the power play unit.
I predict they’ll extend him on a year or two for $1.25 M / year contract. Like it or not, I think Darcy will be around next season.
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he doesn’t really fit in on a team being built on speed.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
He might anchor a 4th line. You do need to have veteran presence in the locker room.
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For veteran presence in the locker room, please consult the following players:
Foote, Adam (he ain’t captain fer nuthin’!)
Hejduk, Milan (he may not say much, but walks the walk)
Hannan, Scott
You then have a group of semi-veterans / young veterans, who’ve been around a while, but not forever:
Wolski
Stastny
Liles
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How long will Footer be around? I love him as much as anyone, but he is showing his age on the ice a bit. He’s 37 now, and he’s be injured a lot this season. I really hope he comes back but I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to hang them up after this season.
Hedjuk – I concur 100%
Hannan (30) is considered a vet on the Avs, but not by most teams’ rosters.
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I think he wants one last paycheck. That puts the Avs in a tough situation.
If he wants to do the 1.5 million, 2 year deal then it’s not a bad option for Shatty, Cohen and Gaunce to possibly learn from. But he’s going to certainly be in the last pairing soon. If he plays a hard line on a 3 million dollar deal or something then he’s going to have a fight on his hands. I know he does not want to play in any other market, that was a really unhappy point in his career. His skating is still vastly underrated but his dexterity and change of direction just isn’t what it used to be. Like Bourque said at the end of his career; He can still read the play and know what needs to be done but his body just doesn’t respond at the level he’s used to. At the right price he’s gold as a Captain but he should have the expectation of low minutes and possibly some game days off.
I wonder if taking a home-town discount would show something to the youngins about how much players love the Avs’ organization and what players will do to stay with it.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
I think Footer will come back (health allowing) next year, perhaps the year after, presuming that he’ll take some hometown discounts, which I think he will.
Duke will be in a similar position, but given his production, won’t be required to take nearly the discount that Footer will (though he’s already given the Avs major discounts to market).
Re: Hannan, I guess I’m not clear on your definition of veteran. He’s currently in his 9th NHL season and played very strongly against such pantywaists as Foppa in playoff series in 6 different seasons. If he’s not a vet, I’m not quite sure who is.
Liles is currently in his 6th season (3 playoff years). Stastny & Wolski are in their 4th seasons (1 playoff year for SoS, 2 for Baron [Baron played 9 regular season games in 05-06 ergo his “extra” playoff year). While certainly not grizzled greybeards with stories of skating against Gordie Howe to tell, their also not really “kids” anymore, despite their relative youth.
Though I won’t discount intangibles, primary amongst them effort, there’s a big difference in my mind between those just marking time (looking at you, Shamwow) and those who give their all.
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My urge to retain veterans for their “presence” has been tempered lately by the fact that this team is kicking major tail after losing Sakic, Smyth and Lappy in the same year. You’d think losing the Captain, Captain Canada and Captain KickAss would have left a negative mark, but …
We need to have a good playoff run this year to build the type of experience in these kids that is really necessary. After this season, I see no lack of ready leaders even if we lose Footer. People were making the argument that SoS could have gotten the C at the beginning of the season. I still see that as a viable option.
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I truly believe that Foote will stay at least two to three more years so that they can give the C to O’Reilly when he leaves. There have already been multiple statements by Sacco and others in the organization about O’Reilly’s leadership qualities. They’re priming him for it. I will be surprised if he doesn’t get an A next year.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
I agree, but even now he is getting an awful lot of ice time. For average time on ice, he is just under Stewie.
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ok, suggesting the Avs re-sign Tucker IS a bannable offense.
:)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not suggesting they resign Tucker, but if they do I guess I could see why.
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I know…
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
With all due respect, I can’t see a single reason why. There will be a dozen UFA players available over the summer who are better in just about every aspect of their game.
In Toronto Tucker was never known as a veteran leader for the kids. If he was, they might have kept him. He’s not exactly talking it up on the bench with the kids after a shift. He’s not instructing anyone in the faceoff circle. He’s got that same 1000 yard stare he’s had all season. He’s only excited when he scores.
His defense is really suspect, he can’t create his own shot and he’s not a playmaker for other players. He’s a 3 foot from the net, slap the free puck in to the net guy.
The Darcy Tucker I was hoping for was the guy who got under players skin. Talks lots of trash, occasionally fight but for the most part play the role of Avery/Maltby. Basically, the anti-Lappy. But he’s not doing that. He’s the guys who once scored 20 goals so let’s wait and see if he can do it again. Namely Tyler Arnason.
No way in the hell do you sign Darcy Tucker to a new contract.
I say that with all due respect for the guy after he went toe to toe with Rutuu and is doing a reportedly great job with O’Reilly. But that’s not good enough.
Hey
they are paying 2.5 million to make sure O’Reilly gets a good meal each night. That’s something right?
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Worth every penny!
Another thing that bugs the ever living crap out of me, after the Wild had the van fire and lost the equipment someone interviewed Tucker about how important a factor it was. Tucker did one of those too cool for school interviews and said (I paraphrase), “It’s no big deal, I break in a new pair of skates every two weeks”.
WTF.
Dude is going through a $500 pair of skates every two freeking weeks? I’ve never heard of such a thing. I know the guys go through $200 sticks like crazy but skates?!
I just bought my first new pair in 15 years. I like the way they felt but they finally wore out. I can’t see breaking a new pair every few weeks, that would suck and my skating would suffer. Maybe that explains a lot with him?
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Yeah, nevermind the expense. I just got a new pair of Bauer One75 skates and I’m still breaking them in 3 weeks later and probably 20 hours of ice time (with a bake+compress). I think they are almost packed in but I’m still creating a little more room in them each time I skate so maybe a few more sessions.
they want to show solidarity with the team, loyalty to their guys, and build this strong team stronger through those means.
Showing a bunch of still maturing young kids that the team is ready to throw away one of the only ‘leaders’ for some BS rental player who will be gone at the end of the year would disrupt that team building spirit
I said this too! Man, I’m smart. ; – )
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
I hope to God you’re wrong. At this point, I’ll suggest that we recruit Radar’s junior’s billet family/father to be our 3rd RW. As of now, the only purpose Tucker serves is as a billet family to Radar. His leadership is non-existant, especially when he consistently loses battles for the puck (when he can be bothered to engage in said battles) and most of the time is at least 10 meters from the puck.
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Ha, I don’t really like Tucker much, I’m definitely not one of his fanboys (if there are any), but just because he doesn’t lead by example on the ice doesn’t mean he doesn’t lead. We have no real idea of the locker room dynamic. Maybe he IS a waste of space that curls up on his bench and never talks to anyone. But maybe he’s not.
Anyway, my basic argument about not trading the guy is just above, and I wont really repeat any more of it here.
Thanks Joe...
Well maybe we just need to get Beachie and Liles to tie the knot and then O’Reilly can live with them….
ummm…hold on….
No, on second thought, that might be tooo much temptation for Beachie. And we do need O’Reilly getting his sleep, not listening to the happy couples bed knocking on the walls during the “nurse’s treatments.”
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by Americanario on Jan 19, 2010 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
I think I could stick to Hot Pocket (pun intended) and leave the kid alone, and I can be quiet when the need arises (another pun intended). I’m a fabulous mentor so I think this is a fabulous idea. I’ll get on it right away (again, pun intended)!
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
Can you say he loses battles for the puck when he falls down without being touched? Or when he initiates the contact? That’s not losing so much as forfeiting.
Also, 10 meters is a long way.
The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.
hey now, those blue lines are worse than bananas for stooges.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
Yep, 10 meters is a long way. +/- 33 feet. I said that intentionally. He is so wretched in his lack of dedication and his inability/lack of desire to skate that he is most frequently not even in the same zone as his linemates, who have the puck or are challenging for it.
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After his whining about the team not going anywhere in 3 years (while making 5 million a year at that) and his lazy plays all over the ice last night when the team was only down a couple of goals I wouldn’t touch him.
I was pretty taken back by comments in the post game last night. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Souray comes here, and one of the commentators pretty much called him a whiny little b&*$h.
Granted, this was the same commenter that coined Little Rat Guy for Briere.
But I don’t see the Avs making that trade. As soon as BU’s season is over, I have a feeling Shattenkirk will be skating for the Avs. He’ll have that right-handed shot we’re looking for.
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I think we would hate him worse than clark.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Agree. I thought Minnesota was going to be this years Colorado, but the Oil look exactly like the ’08 – ’09 Avs.
Especially the way they gave up after getting down 2-0
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
I agree, they have given up on the year.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
Raycroft did the least Altitude broadcast thing I’ve every seen last night in the postgame. He ripped in to Souray big time, and he’s right.
I should have watched, but turned it off. Does anyone know if they replay those post game reports after the game replays?
Thanks Joe...
Jacques hit on Wilson
What do you guys think about it? I think he should get some sort of suspension for it and I’m almost certain the league will hand him something. There was no reason to hit Wilson when the numbers were clearly facing Jaques. That was a bullshit hit.
I called him every name in the book and then I was over it. THE BOOK OF SWEAR WORDS.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 19, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
True, chiavsfan it was very similar, maybe he will get away with it. I guess we’ll see
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Pivotal Game, Shutouts, and Nay Sayers
I can’t shake the feeling that when the Avs finish the season as strong as they started the season, and go into the playoffs on a hot streak that we will all continually look back to the night that Calgary was exposed as a pretender and Colorado was Vindicated as a Contender. This could be the night that the team rallies around for the rest of the season, and with 4 wins in a row, this couldn’t have happened at a better time.
I would also like to say props to Craig Anderson, as if you ask any goalie in the league they would tell you that as fun as it is to get a shutout in a 1-0 game, he’ll gladly take the 6-0 drubbing and get no credit for the saves he did make! Steal of the year!
As per the Preview thread for this game, the performance on the ice reiterated what was said yesterday. This deep into the season, the Avs are for real. What has happened is not a fluke, and I believe that the good guys in Burgundy are all realizing that. And they are pissed off that they have to teach other teams that they are for real. Its going to be great to see how far these kids can take us in a few years! Great night of hockey!
by RyanO'Reilly FanClub on Jan 19, 2010 10:22 AM MST reply actions
Quick piece of trivia for you O’Reilly fan:
Radar has the lowest offensive zone starts of ANY player on the Avalanche at only 39.7%. That might not just be a first for the Avs, but it might be a first in the history of the modern NHL to have an 18 year old own such a defensive zone responsibility.
Pretty cool. Would be neat to compair that across the league and see if any other team has a guy that they lean on so consistently in their own end. My guess is someone like Jordan Staal would be in that territory as well. He cracked Pitts lineup at 18, and is now a household name. Many people forget he is only 21, and is far and away their best PK guy. Thanks for the post Dario
by RyanO'Reilly FanClub on Jan 19, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
Here you go
http://www.behindthenet.ca/2009/new_5_on_5.php?sort=64§ion=zonestart&mingp=30&mintoi=&pos=F
Staal is right around 50-50.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Should he be a Selke candidate?
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Of all people, that’s just kind of surreal. But look at his company with D zone faceoffs, faceoff % wins and zone starts. He’s there with guys like Phalsson, Drury and Madden. The Island is probably too poor of a team for him to get it but that’s pretty impressive what he’s doing in the faceoff dot and his coach trusts him at the defensive end. I’m not too familiar with Park’s other defensive abilities but he does come from the Wild system so he’s got to be pretty solid there. I just never though of him as a defensive player for some reason.
yeah
was going to copy and paste into an Excel spread tonight, and take a look at some REAL selke candidates.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
My obvservations from the game,
I would have posted them last night but I was distracted by my inebration. The avs are a much faster team then the oilers, maybe even most of the league and they were beating them up and down the ice. Koci had a great game, After Stortini’s fight, then later in the second after the oiler’s jumped Yip around the oiler goalie, there were no calls and the Oiler’s left the same guys out there the avs used their last change, put in Hendricks, Koci and someone else…and…nothing happened, the oilers wanted no part of Koci. It was amazing because up to that point I thought he was the biggest waste of a jersey on the avs, but he really did calm down the game. I was also impressed by Cumiskey sandpaper (pretty fine grain, but sandpaper none the less), he fought through some checks and had some great, sick moves.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 10:24 AM MST reply actions
The altiboobs said something that intriged me: other teams have really started initiating fights with the Avs a lot more lately. They suggested they might be trying to slow the momentum of the game, to slow the Avs down, limit their speed, to intimidate them into a bit of turtling. And then they get all discombobulated (spelling, I know) when they get their asses handed to them on a platter by Stewie, Highlander, Koci (sort of), Yip, Wilson, Hendricks, etc etc. No one realizes yet that the Avs are now a tough team that can kick ass. I love this team more and more.
"I think you should win if you have a two-goal lead. When you stop playing and stop working hard, that's when the other team is going to be all over you the whole time." - Peter Forsberg
by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
FYI
We score 6 goals last night:
Darcy Tucker’s line: 0g 0a 0p 0(±) 1(sog) 2(PiM)
It’s very similar to O’Reilly’s and McLeod’s line. O’Reilly had 3 & 1/2 minutes of Shorthanded time.
That line combo is pretty much awful. McLeod and Tucker are not good fits with O’Reilly.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:23 AM MST reply actions
He also had less ice time than everyone but Koci.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Radar needs Gali and and either Jones, Stewie or Yip. Think of how many more points that line will get going…
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
It’s no accident. Every line Tucker has been on this year has essentially been shut down – not by the opposition.
His linemates (initially Dutchy & Gali, now Highlander & Radar) are essentially playing a man down, if not worse with that wanker on the ice. The best thing that he can do for the Avs is to stay home and cook Radar’s meals, do Radar’s laundry, clean Radar’s room… (see a pattern?)
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+1 for using the word wanker. i love that word and find that it is not used widely enough here in the states.
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 20, 2010 8:39 AM MST up reply actions
Did the avs peak last night? It was pretty much a perfect game.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 12:09 PM MST reply actions
McLeod
Still not sure if he is quietly having a bad year or if he is just fitting into a more natural role. I think he is fitting into a more natural role but occasional goal here or there would be nice.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
I honestly think he’s being asked to be more of a role player this year. But If you look at his numbers, his shooting percentage is down but he is still getting about the same number of shots on goal from last season. So, he’s either not making good on his shots, or his scoring chances aren’t as good. Either way, I can see that as having a worse year than last year, but he’s still doing a lot of good forechecking and rough stuff when things get a bit chippy out there.
If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.
I still prefer
this year with him doing his “role playing” as a grinder/fighter/3rd-4th line guy scoring some goals (like Lappy), than last year when he was one of the top goal scorers for the Avs.
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Hockey mom
prefers McLeod as a roleplayer. You must have been wild over him when he did his show as a fireman huh?
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know about Hockeymom, but I sure didn’t mind it.
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, Yes I Was
Firefighters are HOT!
He came to skate with my son’s team last year at practice. I am telling you, with his tooth in, he is really cute in person. And he needed his hose (no – the firefighter one you perverts), because there was one mom who has ready to jump him (then again, the other hose would have worked too)
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the other hose would have worked too
I’m sure it would have!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
wow
no beachie comment? lol
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by NurseBeachie on Jan 19, 2010 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
I just realized
I think Tucker was the only forward last night over 30 years old.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
Sykora on waivers
What do you think?
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Double Figure Goal Differential
Did anyone notice that the Avs goal differential has cracked into double figures?
GF 147, GA 135, Diff +12.
They’d been winning a lot by a few and losing a few by a lot resulting in a slight positive. They’re still not playing with the big boys (Chicago +55, Washington +46, San Jose +42), but their number is starting to look respectable. Interesting to note that Vancouver is sitting at 6th in the West but carrying a +36, so clearly this number isn’t all that important. I wonder if the difference is indicative of the youth of the Avs, and until recently, their inability to put an opponent away at the end of the game.
Games are worth only 2 points, DAMMIT!!
I think San Jose has proved that winning by blowouts in the regular season doesn’t really set the table for the playoffs.
The only good part about a big goal differential is that your 4th line can play more minutes and rest your top lines. But the Avs are pretty darned young up front so the extra play time probably helps more than it hurts.
Last night was the most goals the Avs have had on the season by the way, so it’s not like they’ve been racking up 6 goal affairs all season. Yet before the game they still were 9th in the NHL for Goals For. I think that’s pretty impressive with their shot differential.
FYI
Goal differential (not Corsi) is usually the best indicator at how good a team is. That’s why I worry about the Canuckleheads.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
WRONG!!!!!
Corsi numbers are all that matter. That’s why the Flames are so good.
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The Canucks also have a tendency to run up the score, as they did in a game that didn’t exist against the Avs and a recent game against the Penguins 5th-string goalie.
If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.
yeah
I wish the Avs would run up the score a little more instead of let teams come back from 2 down.
There’s something to be said about having the ability to run it up.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
There is something to be said for winning the close games too though.
This probably tells you more about how a team behaves against other good teams, not relative to average or bad team. Clearly, in the playoffs most games are going to be close, and if a team is good at winning 1-goal games or losing 2-goal leads then you can look at this when making predictions of post-season success.
eh
it’s hard to tell with the shootout and that whole dynamic factored in.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
True, it does take more work and it you wouldn’t see the same trends late in the game scoring rate-wise. But, if you get used to winning the close games its more likely that you will win future close games.
The Canucks are a good team
I want to play them soon and see what happens when we are both playing well.
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I wonder what the Avs differential is after 2 periods. I’ll bet it’s pretty impressive.
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by Busted Twigg on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM MST up reply actions
When he saw what his name looked like on the back of a jersey?
If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.
He realized how cursed the – is.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
It was a big circle ;)
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong sport, but Marty Schottenheimer when he played for Buffalo (NFL) had his name up one sleeve, across the back, and down the other.
Games are worth only 2 points, DAMMIT!!
by Busted Twigg on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
It seems like he cuts out Drouin on all his jerseys
All images of him that I searched though(about 3 pages of google images) show Deslauriers only.

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