Game 54 Recap: Rangers 3, Avalanche 1
by Dustin Burfiend on Jan 31, 2010 10:42 PM MST
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[It's come to my attention that I was a little crass in this recap. I was pretty angry when I was writing it. Anyway I've gone through and replaced most of my naughty language with the word Gaborik. For example: that was a pretty Gabroriking bad loss lat night]
My faith in the hockey gods has just been sorely tested. I was lucky enough to pay to see this train wreck in person and I got to have a horribly obnoxious Ranger fan in my section. The guy was a classic Gaboriking Gaborik, screaming things 'Fuck Matt Duchene' in a section with several children and even had the extreme classlessness to chant 'LET"S GO RANGERS' during the Gaboriking national anthem. 'If there is any justice,' I thought to myself, 'surely the Avs will blow the Rangers out of the water and shut this clown up.' The Avs got off on the right foot by taking two penalties to give the Rangers a 5 on 3 a whole 1:13 into the game. Before I move on, let me take a moment to congratulate the refs for calling the worst game I've ever personally been witness to. Most of the fourteen minor penalties were extremley weak and they missed so many blatent calls it's not even funny. I watched Tucker (I think) get whacked right in the mouth with a highstick, literally a foot away from one ref. Wolski gets dumped on his back on a legit scoring chance with no call and the Avery barely touches someone in the neutral zone and gets called. Disgustingly called game. Honestly, I don't even think it was lopsided, just atrocious.
To the game itself. Penalties kept the game from getting much flow early one. Aaron Voros and Cody McLeod got into a pretty good scrap. McLeod got in a couple of good shots and obviously Voros got pissed off because, in an incredibly dickish move, Voros kept punching McLeod after they fell to the ice. Is it me or should a player pick up two for unsportsmanlike conduct for that Gaborik? Anyway, shortly thereafter Marian Gaborik made it 1-0 by using a coasting Ryan Wilson to screen Craig Anderson. The Avs put some pressure on at the end of the first but could not get one by Ranger backup Chad Johnson.
The second period the Avs were extreamly lackluster and managed a whopping five shots on goal despite trailing. Vinny Prospal and Marian Gaborik caught Anderson sleeping at the wheel and Gaborik scored is 2nd of the night before Anderson had any idea Gaborik was right in front of him. The Avs came out in the third looking like they might actually consider trying to win the game but Matt Duchene fumbled the puck with Scott Hannan up on the play and Gaborik scored on a breakaway to complete the hat trick. McLeod scored a hard working goal a few minutes later but it was too little, too late and the Avs are now on their first 3 game losing streak of the season.
The Avalanche were not good tonight. Johnson was very good but he only made two or three really outstanding saves. The top line hasn't scored in three games and, suprise surprise, the Avs have lost all three. Duchene's line was good last game but Duchene and T.J. Galiardi never seemed to get going in this one and Brandon Yip was downright terrible. I can't remember the last time Ryan O'Reilly's line actually scored a goal. O'Reilly tried to make something happen but his linemates couldn't finish (though I like that in both this game and the Wild game O'Reilly turned his offensive game up a notch). I'm not sure if John-Michael Liles slept with Joe Sacco's wife or what but he was scratched despite the fact that he was money during the six game winning streak, despite the fact that he has the most points of any blue liner on the Avs and despite the fact that Avs are in serious need of any offense boost they can get. Wolski is terrible on the point and with Duchene up on the 1st pp unit the 2nd has no center. Why, why, why was Liles scratched? What the Gaborik does Clark add that's more important that having the powerplay running smoothly? Anyway, if you couldn't tell, I wasn't happy with the the defense tonight. Cumiskey was making things happen offensivley but wasn't great in his own zone. Hannan was a -2. And, I feel like I'm harping on this, but why is Anderson starting all 3 games in 4 nights? Budaj is a decent goaltender and the Avs had just won six in a row. Anderson was clearly not himself this game and the score could have been much worse if the Ranger's had more than one player who could score goals.
Dustin's Three Stars
3rd - Cody McLeod - Good fight, good goal.
2nd - Chad Johnson - the Avs didn't test him too much and he got lucky a couple times but still a great game overall
1st - Marian Gaborik - the Lone Ranger
Minus of the Game - Poor effort all around but Wolski stood out. Kept dekeing into the zone then pulling up and making a bad pass. Clearly he has lost confidence due to this goaless streak of his. Maybe time for a benching?
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Good call on Cody Mac
His best game in a long time, but you know it’s probably not gonna be a good night when he and Durno are your most dangerous forwards.
Yikes!
Sounds like you sat next to someone worse than I did! The guy I was next to was brutally obnoxious, would not shut up every time the Rangers got a penalty (“COMMON REFS LET THEM PLAY”)/ equally obnoxious when we got a call (“GOOD CALL REF GOOD CALL!”), then proceeded to rip up a bunch of those “Go Avs” signs and threw them on the seats in front of us. Finally at the end of the game I got tired of it so I took some of the ripped paper and put it on his lap and called him out for being fucking obnoxious. He FREAKED out and cussed his head off at me and then at my fiance telling him to “control his woman” before trying to fight him.
And aside from this: worst game ever.
Wow, I guess they were everywhere. I understand rooting for your team but what makes someone want to be that obnoxious? Ripping up signs? What a tool.
by Dustin Burfiend on Jan 31, 2010 11:00 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve been to a bunch of games this season, only two fan bases have cheered for their own team during the national Anthem,
Rangers and Red Wings. I’ll leave it at that
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 31, 2010 11:05 PM MST up reply actions
They were everywhere. it was disgusting. I was so shocked at their response to the first Gaborik goal. If I didn’t know better, I woulda thought I was at MSG.
I missed the anthem cause I was in the beer line for 10 minutes. Oh, and BTW, the good beer stand on the 3rd floor is between sections 369 and 372. It’s the only place I know of outside club level that has Fat Tire and Blue Moon.
meh
by Jimmy_the_scumbag on Feb 1, 2010 7:42 AM MST up reply actions
I’ll have to remember that. there’s one between about 320-330, but it hasn’t been open the last few games I’ve been to.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 8:21 AM MST up reply actions
only two fan bases have cheered for their own team during the national Anthem, Rangers and Red Wings
The Stars fans always cheer during the NA. They do it more discretely by yelling “stars” when the word comes up in the Anthem. Just as despicable though. I heard Flyer fans cheering for the Flyers during the Anthem, but I was more impressed that those neanderthals had learned how to speak.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
Seriously.
There’s having a good time at a game and being completely disrespectful. Not to mention, when it’s not your home turf you’re going to have to deal with home fans cheering and dissing your team (as long as it’s not incredibly profane.) I mean come on, you can’t be a true Rangers fan if you go to one of their away games and are shocked that someone is calling Avery a fairy princess.
(Also, I think Tucker gave Mercier falling down lessons.)
by xskatebakerrx on Jan 31, 2010 11:32 PM MST up reply actions
Not that it would surprise anyone, but being in enemy territory all the time, I get to personally experience Avs fans in other teams’ houses. No one EVER disrespects the anthem. ’Nuff said.
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by NurseBeachie on Feb 1, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
just be glad you weren’t by the guy that apparently lit one on fire… had to smell that for the first period and a half over in 322… gotta say, out of all my experiences, rangers fans are the worst… i don’t care much for wings fans, but damn, they were awful last night
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
Lit what on fire? I wasn’t too far from 322
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smelled like one of the signs that were laying around, it was smoky, and smelled wonderfully of chemicals.
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
I think someone posted during the game that it was actually a small electrical fire in one of the lighting units in that area. But I may be mistaken…..
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by Americanario on Feb 1, 2010 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
that would be slightly better, still hated the rags fans though, they were godawful
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
Islanders fans are just as bad, trust me.
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
This was an electrical fire at the top of 116, right friggin above my head, about 6 feet away. One of the capacitors in the LED ring blew and started the fixture on fire. I had to keep watching to make sure bits of burning plastic didnt land on my dome.
Kept me distracted from the game tho. It was almost more fun to watch.
Thanks Joe...
I can only go to Avs games in Detroit and I’ll admit, I get up and loud when they score. I don’t expect people to give me too much shit, not to mention I’m the only one sitting down if the Wings happen to score. At my house, if I’m watching the Avs on TV I’ll hoot and holler. Same for at the bar, but I’ll have all my Avs stuff on.
Bottom line, it’s all in good fun but you have to atleast respect the arena you’re in. Cheering penalties and stuff isn’t really necessary.
by Avalanche318 on Feb 1, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly!
I’ve sat by other fans before and we cheer at different times but we’re both there for the love of hockey. The guy I sat next to just had some evolution problems. But cheering for the Avs in JLA- you are a brave person!
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
We must of been sat near each other.
I too was close to the national anthem interrupting Ranger fan. Idiot.
Wow. This game sucked.
Sorry to any of you that were there in person.
Thanks for the great re-cap.
I totally agree on the Liles thoughts, Seriously!! He was Amazing in that 6 game win streak. And our PP needs him.
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All said
I’m pretty happy we only play Marion Gaborik once a season. He’s always been awesome.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 31, 2010 11:44 PM MST reply actions
and somehow, has managed to go without major injury this season…… I certify that as an honest-to-goodness miracle performed by the NY Rangers training staff.
I wonder how many of Maid Marian’s injuries were “prolonged” by the Wild’s style of play over the last several years?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
The “style of play” or even the more physical nature of the Western Conference.
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by Americanario on Feb 1, 2010 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
I used to do fantasy draft mode in NHL 2004, every single time I picked up Gaborik in the 2nd round and beasted with him.
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think Liles should have been scratched
Liles has been pretty good the last 8 games or so, especially in the win streak.
I hate saying this but Wilson may need to be scratched for a while. He hasn’t seemed right since the concussion and I am wondering if he is not fully healed.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
Thank You!!
And yeah, it might not be a bad idea to give Wilson a few more games to heal, he does seem a little hesitant.
And I have to admit, as much as I like the guy, there were several times tonight when I was wondering WTF Quincey was doing. He just didn’t seem to have a feel for where the puck was.
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The Hannan – Quincey pair have been the most reliable over the course of the season but they were bad this game.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
Yeah, I agree on both counts.
I usually really like them but their timing seemed off last night.
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I’m still anti-big trade but my confidence in that position is a little weaker after this game. Not meaning Hannan or Quincey should be traded, but the log jam at D, with some great prospects probably ready to go next season, and the poor offense the last few games, says we should trade a D-man for another forward.
Hopefully #9 is not ten less than #19
I see the point of that logic, but I am really nervous of screwing up the dynamic that we have overall. I mean, sure we lost a couple of games in a row but seriously, this is a team that has won almost twice as many games as it’s lost and all while being one of the youngest teams in the league.
I just don’t want to see our youngsters either traded off or rattled by losing teammates that they’ve learned to lean on and losing their edge.
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I agree with all of that. Wilson has seemed hesitant to hit after the concussion, and Quincey had a TERRIBLE game last night. Just awful. I think Dustin was right about JML sleep with Sacco’s wife.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
yep, major test for Quincey as he was up against Gaborik. he failed miserably
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
When a good player is a healthy scratch, doesn’t that usually mean there’s a trade in the works?
meh
by Jimmy_the_scumbag on Feb 1, 2010 7:35 AM MST up reply actions
yeah, but why? Like everyone is saying, he’s been kickin’ ass. Just doesn’t make any sort of sense otherwise.
meh
by Jimmy_the_scumbag on Feb 1, 2010 7:52 AM MST up reply actions
I know. I didn’t say he was in the dog house just that it’s the only other explanation I can think of.
Sandie
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I still contend that he had some pretty rough moments defensively against Minnesota. Shouldn’t totally negate all the positive goodwill he’s been generating, but when you have 7 healthy and capable defensemen, it doesn’t help your cause
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Within the first 7 minutes of the game (would have been sooner but that whole penalty fiasco compromised my observation ability) I knew JML was scratched. And at the moment I realized that I also knew he will be traded. It will happen before the Olympic break. I’m calling it now.
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by NurseBeachie on Feb 1, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
and fwiw, according to dater, his agent was at the game last night
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by NurseBeachie on Feb 1, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Marian Gaborik caught Anderson sleeping at the wheel and Gaborik scored is 2nd of the night before Anderson had any idea Gaborik was right in front of him.
I saw this play a bit different, with the same result. I don’t think Anderson was sleeping…I think he was anticipating the play going behind the net, and it looked like it was going that way. He ended up on the wrong post because of that anticipation…then the nice pass, and Gabby buried it. Same result though, Andy got beat, poor decision.
As for Budaj, I don’t think Patrick Roy wins that game last night with the way the Avs offense (did they have any) was playing. That said, yes it’s time to give Budaj a start.
My biggest problem with this team right now is something I have seen in the past. They are pedal to the metal against teams like New Jersey, Detroit, Chicago, San Jose, etc…but lay eggs against New York (both of them), Carolina, Florida…
This team is playing to it’s competition again, and I have a big problem with that. Stomp the teams you are supposed to stomp!
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by chiavsfan on Feb 1, 2010 3:32 AM MST reply actions 4 recs
I agree with
and rec this entire post.
Especially this line.
As for Budaj, I don’t think Patrick Roy wins that game last night with the way the Avs offense (did they have any) was playing. That said, yes it’s time to give Budaj a start.
You’re right, without a team in front of him, St. Patty would have lost that game last night.
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Yeah your version was probably closer to the truth but I was pretty pissed off last night. None of these losses can be blamed on Craig Anderson in any way, shape or form but changing up a goaltender often changes the dynamic of the team. Plus, Anderson was amazing during that home stand when he was getting time to rest between games. Budaj should have started last night, no question. Non-conference, weak team offensively, Anderson had just lost two tough games back-to-back. Has Sacco really got that much pressure on him to win? He’s probably already a candidate for the Jack Adams.
by Dustin Burfiend on Feb 1, 2010 7:33 AM MST up reply actions
remember
Sacco always asks Anderson if he feels up to playing, so Anderson is in control of whether he plays. If Anderson comes out and plays a flat game than I guess the only person he can blame is himself, right? I had more issues with the third breakaway goal Anderson allowed than the second goal. That seemed like one he should have had.
That said, I personally think putting the goalie rotation in the hands of the starting goaltender is a lame and stupid way of coaching.
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It doesn’t really seem like coaching though does it?
Sandie
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nope, sure doesn’t. reminds me of Quenneville and Theodore in that series against Detroit
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 8:36 AM MST up reply actions
hockeymom – Thanks again for the poster and for waiting on me! In my rush, I never asked if I could get you/your family a coke or anything – sorry for that. Next game we’re both at, I’d be happy to treat you all. Thanks again for getting both posters; I really appreciate it.
I was pissed too.
The game was more painful for those who went, haha.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
Oh and again, Smurfiforms….they suck in the smurfiforms.
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yeah, sorry to everyone to have to see that garbage. we are working to get rid of this clown for good. if there’s anything I’m missing, let me know
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 7:17 AM MST up reply actions
Meh, It’s all right it happens, you guys have to sleep sometime. I think you got it all.
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It is nice to see that Derek, and some of the other “writers” have some power…it got fairly cleaned up once Derek got there last night and got up to speed.
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Kept dekeing into the zone then pulling up and making a bad pass
Wasn’t this the sort of shit that I was getting ragged on for calling Wolski out on as far back as the Islanders game?
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Well back then, Wolski was just in the start of his slump. He was nearly at a point per game I suppose we all just wanted to believe that Wolski was done with this major streaky crap. I still support him and hope he can bust out of it but he the first line LW now. The Avs need him to score.
by Dustin Burfiend on Feb 1, 2010 7:40 AM MST up reply actions
Well I disagree, but have spent enough words defending Wolski the last few days.
My opinion remains the same: He’s playing well, he’s just not getting the bounces right now. It happens to everyone.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 8:23 AM MST up reply actions
Normal statistical variance. As Dan astutely pointed out in a different thread, his shooting percentage before was ~16%, and now, because of this slump, it’s down to around 12. His career average is 11.5%
That’s called reverting to the mean.
Where my patience has just about worn thin is the 3rd and 4th lines. The Avs are getting basically nothing from them offensively. In January the Avs have gotten a combined 8 points from McLeod, Tucker, O’Reilly, Hendricks, Durno, Stoa, & Mercier. O’Reilly went pointless in January, and McLeod salvaged his 0-fer January by getting a goal last night.
I don’t expect much from the 4th line, But McLeod-O’Reilly-Tucker has been just awful the last month or two.
Wolski’s slumping, badly, and still producing more than 2 entire lines. That’s a big problem
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
Totally agree with that statement. I’d like to see Wolski score more – I think he has it in him to be a point per game player but the real problem with the Avs lately is the lack of secondary scoring. McLeod’s goal was the first in a long time from the O’Reilly, Tucker, McLeod line and Tucker wasn’t even on the ice.
by Dustin Burfiend on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
We need Hejduk back. We also need someone to travel back in time and pick up Svatos from three years ago. That would allow us to put some more offensive talent on the third line. I bet a Galiardi/O’Reilly/Yip line could really do some damage.
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Part of it is Mercier not being good. As was said in the thread last night, we have a lot of great young players. Mercier ain’t one of them.
That sure goal he missed in the first period was pathetic.
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
He ate it when they were warming up! I suppose he was just warming up to eat it at least four more times during the actual game.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
So what your basically saying is that the 2008-2009 version of the Colorado Avalanche showed up for last night’s game?
Got it. Moving on…………
The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.
very reminiscent
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 7:42 AM MST up reply actions
I wrote an email to the Altitude Network thanking them for having Rycroft on the show. He was the only good thing about that game last night. That and the news that we won’t have to see Phadouche as often.
you know, I would REALLY like to see the stats for goalies with no career wins against the Avs. Chad Johnson, Al Motoya, that minor league guy from Columbus. It really is amazing how these guys own us so consistently.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 8:18 AM MST reply actions
Well I know the Avs ended up with more SOG than the Rangers. But, outside of a quality 5 minutes to end the 3rd, Johnson barely had to work.
And when you have 0 shots through 11 minutes in the 2nd period…things are bad
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What section?
Where you in last night? Cause there was a guy about three away from us, so around 310-ish, that kept screaming during the anthem. Probably the most annoying fan I have ever seen/heard. Even the Ranger fans we sat next to were pissed at him.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Yup, section 310 is where I was at. I was a few rows in front of him.
by Dustin Burfiend on Feb 1, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
I hate people like that and unfortunately it starts young. I see it daily in my class when students want to talk during the pledge. I tell them they legally don’t have to say the pledge, but in my class the have to stand up and shut up. Show some bloody respect people.
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So?
What could the Avs get for JML, Wolski, and Svatos?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
I say either a mean PP shot D guy, or a 3-game do-over.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 1, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
Biggest issue by far on the PP
Is not necessarily having the booming shot, imo, but is just having guys who act and react quickly on the points. I don’t know how many times guys like Wolski, Quincey and Clark passed up wide open shot opportunities only to Wolski around until guys had a chance to get in front of them. Liles is bad at this too. Why do they refuse to take the open shots that are there? Last night was particularly maddening.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
I think it’s time once again for the Avs’ Power Play Analogy Kid!
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 1, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Too bad punting didn’t work out for young WoWo.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
That is HILARIOUS
and depressingly true…
by Avalanche318 on Feb 1, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
A bag of used pucks
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 4:05 PM MST up reply actions
I was at the game last night. For those of you there and paying attention near the end of the second intermission to the circa ’90’s jumbotron in serious need of an upgrade, I was the dork interviewed by the absolute goddess in the black dress. I had a chance to win up to $10,000 if the Avs had scored within the first minute of the 3rd period. I ended up with a Key Bank t-shirt, $25 just for playing, and a chance to talk to said absolute goddess. Seriously, I’ve never seen an ice girl even approaching said goddess. Sorry if this has been typed poorly, I"m drooling all over my keyboard.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
HAHA
I laughed when she said that no matter what you wouldn’t be going home empty handed, and that you got that AWESOME key bank shirt. Yeah – cause I am sure you will be wearing that often.
It also made me cringe to see that shirt over your jersey.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Aph on Feb 1, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
Wearing that t-shirt blew, for sure
I had to sit up there and wear it beyond the first minute of the 3rd period too. First break thereafter I ran back to my seat and took the damn thing off.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Bob, for a chance at 10K, you would have worn a Draper #33 t-shirt.
Who was the girl who interviewed you? How the hell did you get picked for that promo from all the way up in the 3rd level?
1. No I wouldn’t.
2. Her name is Lauren and she is also an ex-Bronco cheerleader. We will marry in a few months. If my wife approves and my alarm doesn’t go off too early in the morning of that particular dream.
3. We weren’t in our normal seats, we were down low. Got an awesome deal on a couple of lower bowl tickets.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
that’s cool, one of the few intermissions i actually stuck around and didn’t go smoke. definitely looked like an uncomfortable shirt, but good on you for getting into a contest.. i’ve never won a damn thing in all my years of going to games
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
i’ve never won a damn thing in all my years of going to games
Why is it I read that as “worn” instead of “won”?
The 2009-10 Avalanche: Have the wheels fallen off the bus yet?
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
Hahahaha
I don’t know but it’s awesome. Maybe some of us women are rubbing off on you?
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
Women rubbing on on me? This could be fun.
Actually I think Beachie and myself have been a bad influence on this site for a couple of years now. I am a guy after all, I can make anything sexual…just ask Jeff Foxworthy.
The 2009-10 Avalanche: Have the wheels fallen off the bus yet?
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
Hahaha, Damn, are you saying I’m like a guy? Because pretty much everything has the potential to be something sexual…
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
I won an XM Satellite Radio a few years back during a “do the robot” contest on the jumbotron.
My finest achievement.
I call it... The Avaslug!
I am the 1st and probably only official member of the David "Dr." Jones fanclub.
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 4:07 PM MST up reply actions
Somehow I missed that.
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
The goddess was also on the ice during the tire relay race. Did you see that? Black dress. Long red hair. As gorgeous as Thomas Holmstrom is ugly.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
No i saw her a couple times. (Jibblewife even was impressed she wore heels on the ice). I just didn’t see the interview with you.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
I remember seeing her last year during Colorado Eagles games, or at least I think its the same person.
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Isn’t she the one who does the featury-type interviews on the Eagles show on Altitude? If she is, she’s an upgrade from what they’ve usually got, not just in the looks department, but she also seemed pretty talented, too. Seems like she can string a few hockey questions together.
The broadcasts have taken a step in the right direction with Rycroft and Engblom. Still not enough highlights from the games around the league, still too many canned features about shit I couldn’t care less about, but they’ve gotten better. She would be a TV upgrade, no doubt about it.
That is her!
But believe it or not, she looks better now and/or in person. And she did seem pretty talented. We talked quite a bit of hockey before the quick interview. She hates Avery and knew why he is hated. With someone like this working for Kroenke, how on earth does someone like Julie Browman ever sniff the airwaves?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
I must look pretty dumb with all my comments bunched together since I’m late to the party but I have to agree. Browman is awful. Not pretty, and she seems like an idiot- at least when it comes to hockey. I should have gone into broadcast journalism. If I could get into the locker room to hand out slaps upside the head, I would be able to sleep better at night.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
Oh that was heels on the ice!
My fiance was making fun of her, hahaha.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
Oh that was you!
I was telling my fiance that I was jealous of the Key Bank shirts you get haha, and how it’s not nice to taunt fans with the Avs actually scoring. And that girl was very pretty!
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
We suddenly look really thin on offense. It’s funny, this team started out the season scoring for fun, and now, seemingly out of nowhere, we’re struggling.
I think we got really, really used to bringing up guys and having them contribute and, after a point, those guys won’t always be able to contribute because of talent limitations. Yip is the latest example. And the thing is, I don’t think he belongs anywhere near the top 6 at this point in his career, and there he was last night, opening up the 3rd with Stats and Wolski. (Sidenote about Wolski – thought he wasn’t bad last night. I’m not buying the “1 (empty net) goal in 17 games is a normal slump” argument, but I thought he was OK. Sacco rode him like Secretariat last night – he got 23+ minutes, most of any of our forwards.)
So, back to Yip. I like what I’ve seen so far, but he’s not a top 6 guy. I don’t know how much you can realistically expect out of the 3rd and 4th lines. Every team would love to have that lower level scoring, but it doesn’t seem very common. When’s the last time we had it?
Barring a trade, we need luck. We need Hejduk to come back, stay healthy, and score. We need Svatos to come back and regain his form. We need Stastny and his two wingers, whoever they are, to produce pretty much every night. Maybe we need Fat T.J. to step up – makes sense to call him up pretty soon, doesn’t it? We can’t keep expecting young guys to come up from Lake Erie and overachieve.
I pretty much agree with you here (this might be the most shocking thing I write all day). I don’t think Yip is a top-6 guy right now, and I honestly don’t think Galiardi is either. I do think that Galiardi-O’Reilly-Yip would be a great third line, if O’Reilly would break out of his slump anytime soon.
That said, the Avs should hopefully have Hejduk back after the Olympics, and maybe they can even get Jones back, but they really could use a top-6 LWer (and RWer). If they can get some healthy players back they will have:
Wolski-Stastny-Stewart
Galiardi-Duchene-Hejduk
McLeod-O’Reilly-Yip
Durno-Hendricks-Tucker.
That’s a lineup I’m okay with, but right now they are pretty thin on the bottom two lines.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
And I'm not just saying this because I have his jersey:
(I wanted a Wilson one but they didn’t have them in the shop) I think O’Reilly is having a points slump because he’s on a shitty line. Even though McLeod scored last night I won’t back down from saying that most of the time that is line O’Reilly with two goons skating around missing passes and good scoring chances. I think Radar would get points back up on the board if he had decent linemates and decent chemistry.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed, while he has been pretty quiet lately offensively, I think he has been a big part of our Penalty Kill being so good lately. He is able to get to the puck and get it clear of the zone consistently. Also, even though he didn’t score, I thought he was one of our better players on the ice last night.
Fly Navy!
Agree to a point
but McLeod has shown an ability to put points on the board before. Not getting any points for an entire month with capable, albeit not great, linemates is certainly a slump.
I love O’Reilly, but he hasn’t been playing all that well on the offensive end. It’s not like he’s putting passes on sticks and guys are just missing.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
Crackpot idea:
If the Avs wanted to juice their scoring, playing Cumiskey on the wing to fully make use of his mad speed might not be a bad idea, maybe put him in Wolski’s spot. And then I’m not entirely sure what Stoa’s capabilities are, but if he can pull off a power forward role, a Wolski-Duchene-Stoa line could be an interesting experiment. That’d also free up Galiardi and Yip to join O’Reilly on the greatest all-rookie checking line in the history of the game, with McLeod, Durno, and Tucker doing the dirty work on the 4th and no need to scratch a defenseman every game.
Assuming, of course, that Liles sticks around and the Avs don’t acquire Whitney or another winger.
Agree Danno. Injuries and under production by some of the established guys are finally catching up with us. They need a healthy Hejduk badly. Hopefully he’ll be 100% after the Olympic break. And one empty net goal in 17 games, when you’re playing with Stastny, is unbelievably bad.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
This game has been brought to you by the #3
3 – the number of goals scored against the Avs.
3 – the number of goals the NY Rangers leading scorer, Gaborik scored against the Avs.
3 – the number of games in the current losing streak for the Avs. Also a season high/low.
3 – the number of goals the Avs have scored over the last 3 games
3 – the number of positions the Avs have fallen in the standings this week.
3 – the number of accounts created by trolls for this game.
The 2009-10 Avalanche: Have the wheels fallen off the bus yet?
I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
And the letter F
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Juke Box Selection
I am usually not crazy about the intermission juke box selection, but there’s usually one song that sucks the least. Last nights selection was insulting:
New York, New York
No Sleep Til Brooklyn
New York Groove
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
and they really, really, really need to stop playing We’re Not Gonna Take It when the visiting team scores a goal
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
Music last night
Was pretty atrocious all around. Honestly, my wife and I wondered if the music guy forgot his ipod, and found his mix-cd in his car from 2004.
Here’s a sampling of songs from last night that we noticed
Good Charlotte...×2
Hey Ya by Outcast
3 doors down.
And the rest of the night was similar. The sound guy may have had the worst night of anyone in the building… and considering how the Avs played last night, that’s a statement.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
the organ rendition of Black Dog wasn’t too bad
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
They also did an organ rendition of Hey yah, I believe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
The music was bad, but the juke box selection was a huge middle finger to Avs fans from the Pepsi Center. The Avs were playing like crap, down 2-0 in the intermission, and Rangers fans were…. Rangers fans. Then the Pepsi Center wants the fans to vote for one of those three songs. It was like a kick in the nuts while you’re down.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
No doubt. I booed all 3 loudly. Lauren wasn’t happy with the selection either. Wtf, we now honor our opponent by …..? Lame! Someone should lose their job over that.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
And furthermore
The easy, intelligent, and cool thing to do would have been to have two NY songs and a third honoring Colorado, say Rocky Mountain Way by Joe Walsh. Crowd boos the first two. Third wins by a landslide. Point made.
Major, major failure by Stan’s gang. Another addition to “The Avalanche Fail Marketing Experience.” Chumps!
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Pepper by the BH Surfers
with the line “pouring like an Avalanche flowing down a mountain” would have worked too. But nooooooooooo! Dumbasses.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
I think the fact that “Bobby was a racist,” “they were all in love with dying,” or even “the football player rapists” might have something to do with that. Perhaps?
The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.
by NurseBeachie on Feb 1, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking after the two were announced. I kinda cringed when I thought that I’d be cheering for John Denver. Unfortunately I didn’t even get the opportunity.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
You and I both were thinking the same thing. “They don’t really want to slap every paid Av customer in the face like this, do they? No, they couldn’t. Even Kroenke’s marketing and PR crew couldn’t sink this low, could they?” And they did.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 1, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Frigging atrocious
I get that the on-ice stuff varies – the team will play well then not so much, guys will score then have slumps – but at least control the freaking game entertainment. It’s ridiculous that they’d play those 3 NY-themed songs. Un fucking believable.
Know what else is ridiculous? That the lazy Avs marketing department doesn’t have an email newsletter. It’s not like it’s some NHL rule to not have one – here’s what the Caps have:
Ice Chips is the best way to keep up with what’s happening with the Capitals. This team e-newsletter provides you with all the Caps news, player features, multimedia highlights and special ticket offers that are not available to the general public. And of course, no need to worry, we completely respect your your privacy … your information will not be shared and you are welcome to opt-out at any time.
If you’re a Caps fan, Ice Chips is the only way to get the latest Caps news delivered right to your inbox.
Here’s an entry from the FAQ on the Avs site:
Is there a Colorado Avalanche Fan Club?
Not officially.
I get that one owner made his money from AOL and the other guy has real estate and Wal-Mart roots, but come on! If you can’t figure it out yourself, then hire someone to figure it out for you. Who here wouldn’t like to get an email newsletter every once in awhile with ticket offers, “exclusive” news, links to drive traffic to the official site, merchandise coupons, roster moves, and anything else. Take an afternoon and look at other teams’ websites. Steal some ideas, like the newsletter idea, or having open fan auditions to sing the national anthem (another Caps promotion), or one of about a million things. Show some passion for your job and work, for god’s sake.
(And one last bit of ridiculousness that doesn’t have to do with the “marketing,” but it seems endemic of a culture of laziness that’s permeated that franchise. Anyone catch Dater’s Avs all-decade team in the mailbag today? He put Jon Klemm on the list, and it was quickly pointed out to him that Klemm played for exactly one season here in the past decade. Haven’t seen his excuse/response yet, but it’s laziness, pure and simple. Has nothing to do with the “marketing” department, but it irritated the crap out of me.)
Drury played less games than Yelle, but Yelle wasn’t on the list (but Podein was. I like Podein, but Yelle was a bigger part of the Avs)
Hannan, De Vries and Skoula all make more sense than Klemm.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 1, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
Caps
they do a great job of marketing. They even have the “Scarlet Caps” for the female fan base. If a team has eye candy, market it!!
Colorado Avalanche: Please excuse the mess while we are under construction.
That Caps are the most internet-savvy and marketing savvy team out there, hell even their owner has a blog, and communicates with the fans
2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!
Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
True, the NHL could definitely take some lessons from teams like Washington and Chicago who have been very successful in building up fan bases the last couple years. Unfortunately, I think that until Bettman is gone we won’t see any of that…
Fly Navy!
Yeah, Chicago is a perfect example. They hired the PR guy from the Cubs and made him their “President.” John McDonnough took a team mired in years of failure (both the Cubs and the Hawks) and made the “experience” the thing to see. Until recently (when fans started giving a shit, and management of both teams was forced to put a better product on the field for the Cubs), the Cubs could draw sellouts for a team that won 10 games.
The Hawks took McDonnough away, and he was able to market youth, and the Hawks experience by bringing back former players who were alienated under Bill Wirtz (Mikita, Hull, Roenick).
Half the people at the UC don’t care what hockey is…ok maybe it’s more like 70-20…but those 20 percent are the ones who finish filling the stadium, who will go for the “experience” and those who spend MONEY, just to spend money
2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!
Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
I’ve been to a game at Verizon Center, and it’s the same kind of experience. The majority of the people there only know who Ovechkin is, and will cheer and start going nuts if he handles the puck behind his own goal. The amount of stupid stuff that goes on the jumbotron to keep the masses entertained at those games is mind-boggling
Fly Navy!
it’s amazing that the Hawks are in this category today. how many years of terrible, terrible marketing did Chicago fans endure?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 1, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Years upon years. I have said it before…when I first started following the Avs in 1996, you couldn’t get a seat at the “new” United Center. Then the Hawks literally died, and traded away anyone that had breath, or any semblance of talent.
From then on I could walk up to the box office on the day of a game and nab upper level tickets, but sit in the lower bowl by the end of the 1st period.
That was until Bill Wirtz died and his son Rocky took over. Again, Rocky saw what the Cubs did, and nabbed their media guru.
The 4 games I have paid for since Rocky and Jim McDonnough took over…I have had to go through Stub-Hub each time because you can’t get tickets like you used to.
All I say now, is that GOD for my media credentials
2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!
Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
In the Avs defence, they did advertise their Facebook page last night… So they’re only 10 years behind the rest of society.
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart
I’m on that facebook page, they update approx. once every 2 weeks, I swear.
The Nuggets facebook page is amazing. Free ticket giveaways, updates, etc. The Avs one had a contest for a signed Joe Sakic poster that you had to be the first one to answer the trivia question to get. The answer was “Joe Sakic”. HURRRRRRRR
Naturally I answered “Peter Budaj” and hoped I got lucky.
I call it... The Avaslug!
I am the 1st and probably only official member of the David "Dr." Jones fanclub.
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by UZ on Feb 1, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
I go between thinking that “scarlet caps” thing is dumb, but knowing that if I could ever get my hands on a pink Avalanche jersey I would.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
I was so pissed.
What the fuck was up with that?
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 1, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
Also:
You know what I would really like? Comprehensive injury updates. Like, when they expect a player to return, how the rehab/ healing is going, who the hell Salei is, etc. I want to know how Jones’ surgery went and when Hejduk/ Hendricks are slated to return.
Hockey teams have always been somewhat dubious about injuries though. I wouldn’t expect them to become transparent any time soon.
Fly Navy!
Yep, but at least the Avs give a general idea of what happened. They say ankle or back or groin etc. Some teams are now going to the “lower body” injury descriptions.
Sandie
"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron
Yep, and often if they say it is “lower body”, the only sure thing is that the injury is not on the lower body
Fly Navy!
I still remember a few years ago
the Broncos were involved in some “controversy” about not reporting an injury to a player, and one of the TV stations asked some Avs players what they thought about the whole thing. (Typical, interview an Av and ask them about the Broncos… but I digress…) I remember one player (maybe Sakic) saying incredulously “You mean they actually tell the TRUTH about injuries???” then laughing.
It’s frustrating, but the lying about injuries is a part of hockey culture that will never change.
BTW, I see at the bottom of the page that a certain troll has revealed himself to be the former President of the USA. I never realized MHH had such famous fans. Should have known, of course…
DON’T FEED THE TROLL!
(Just ignore the posts and flag them. When you ignore trolls they shrivel up and die from attention starvation.)
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