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Enhance the Experience: Simplify



Around the SBN hockey blogs today, we're talking about ways to enhance the fan experience for the great game of hockey, eh. They range from the semi-serious (get rid of dopey fans) to the silly (giant bubble over the rink) to the painfully obvious (more beer!). Since I exhausted my humor well on Thursday with my dating game preview, I decided to play this one kind of straight (but don't worry - we've got two more of these to do).

What I'd love to see is to make the game just a little simpler. That doesn't mean dumbing it down, but there are some things that have never made a lot of sense to me.

Number one on the list is things that are legal or not legal depending on the situation. For example, you can move the puck to a teammate with your glove in your own zone; anywhere else on the ice, it's a stoppage in play. You can't close your glove around the puck anywhere on the ice (faceoff), but if you do it in your own crease, it's a penalty shot. Kicking a puck to a teammate is just fine...unless it goes into the other team's net, in which case it is not a goal. Of course, it does count if it goes in off your skate if you don't make a distinct kicking motion - angling your skate to deflect the puck in is legal. And then there's the high stick conundrum. You can knock down a shoulder high puck...but only to yourself or someone on the other team (who will sometimes stand around comically avoiding such a puck which is oh, so awesomely exciting); if one of your teammates is the next one to touch that puck, the play is over. And, boy, there really is nothing that enhances the hockey experience less than sitting around watching replay after replay to determine if a puck in the net was hit by a stick a millimeter above the crossbar or below the crossbar.

These little discrepancies are kind of annoying when watching from home (I've never really understood why a beautiful shoulder high deflection shouldn't be a goal, for example). But it's even worse when watching the game the way it's supposed to be watched: live and in person. How many times have you been sitting in the not-so-cheap nosebleeds and wondered why there was a whistle on the ice? You look around to the folks sitting near you and everyone has a clueless look. That's some fun, ain't it? But hey, you can't have those people passing pucks around with their gloves, can we?

Seriously, if I have to hear "distinct kicking motion" one more time while watching a hockey game, I may go crazy. Let's just make it a little easier. Decide if kicking, gloving and hitting a puck with a shoulder high stick are okay or not okay and just make it apply everywhere. Personally, I think it's so hard to score in this league that if you find a creta way to get it into the net you should be rewarded with a goal, not a 10-minute consultation session with the refs.

Oh, and while we're fixing things, this thing where the refs "explain" the results of a goal review? Nix it. Please. This works in the NFL. It does not work in the NHL where the explanation always boils down to one or two answers: goal or no goal. I have yet to witness a referee explanation that needed to be more in depth than that. Let's go back to the hand signals on this one, okay? It's more exciting that way anyway.

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Bravo!

Agree on all points. (And though I appreciate that the attempt at selling products was the stimulus for this excellent article, the fact that SBN is selling out like this bothers me deeply.)

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 29, 2010 7:17 PM MDT reply actions  

it’s cool. I understand where you’re coming from.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 29, 2010 8:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t see it as selling out.

I see it as supporting the absolute best template on the internet for blogging and fan interaction, which across 240+ websites, more than a handful of full time employees, writers and techies…does not come cheap.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 29, 2010 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like SBN. A lot. That does not change the fact that there are things on other boards out there I like that could be incorporated, and the fact also remains that this is the slowest loading site I frequent by far. No matter what browser or computer I use or my internet speed or whatever, this site is always the slowest. If part of that is waiting for a bunch of ads to load…. well i can get over most of it but I won’t go so far as to say it’s the

absolute best template on the internet for blogging and fan interaction

Hockey- goddamn it's cool.

by TheRed on Oct 29, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s not the slowest site for me but I visit this site more than double what I post. Which is admittedly pathetic.

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by InYoFace on Oct 30, 2010 3:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

look up “hosts file.” it’s downright speedy with a good one…

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT

by thedoctor on Nov 1, 2010 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Can you rec a good one?

Hockey- goddamn it's cool.

by TheRed on Nov 1, 2010 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Although I must say that it sucks having to use ad block etc to get sites to load in a reasonable timeframe, and while I will use any tool available to improve performance of this site, it def detracts from the “absolute best template” argument.

Hockey- goddamn it's cool.

by TheRed on Nov 1, 2010 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

i don’t have a favorite. i don’t notice much difference between them, tbh.

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT

by thedoctor on Nov 1, 2010 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

and it’s not the ads, at least not as much usually — it’s appears to be the tracker stuff they have set up, blog rankings, etc. those sites just crawl.

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT

by thedoctor on Nov 1, 2010 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Like Red said, this site loads incredibly slow, so I wouldn’t say it’s the best template. I think it’s an awesome site and I love all that we as fans can do with it. But I visit this site so often because of the people involved. I’ve been to other SBN boards that I’ve hated…because of the people involved. I accept that the site loads slowly because the ads are a necessary evil, and I will take them over the forced articles every time. They bother me because they are injecting commercialism into my forum for free exchange about my team. The ads are there and I have to deal with them constantly, which is bad enough. Now you’re going to shove ads down my throat by putting them into the discourse? That’s wrong and makes the discussion contrived, IMO.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 30, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

I knew MHH before they sold out.

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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 29, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

If he shows up in skinny jeans, I’m leaving.

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by Hopfenkopf on Oct 30, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m selling tickets.

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by Randy Time on Oct 30, 2010 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good points. Except the bubble-top. That’s just bad. How am I going to throw my hat on the ice when CGDS get’s a trick?

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by Randy Time on Oct 29, 2010 7:44 PM MDT reply actions  

That was exactly my thought when I read that article.

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by JackAvsFan on Oct 29, 2010 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

eh....

I like all those rules (except the high stick deflection one)…I think what the NHL really needs is to get rid of that awful trapezoid…THAT THING SUCKS. Also I liked ties…I wish we still had them

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by brabin on Oct 29, 2010 8:31 PM MDT reply actions  

trapazoid can take a flying leap too. totally useless

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 29, 2010 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Get rid of the trapazoid and if the goalie’s out there then you can run him like any other player playing the puck, make it a tactical decision on the goalie’s part: Yea, I can play it, but I’ll probably get knocked into next tuesday and it’s a bitch with all this padding on."

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t go so far as making goalies fair game because it’ll be nothing but a bitching point for every teams fan. We all know a goalie will step out of his crease and some D-bag like Ott or Avery will charge them from the red line and puit them out for the season. How would everyone here react when Ott puts Andy out for the season? With a lot of bitching, thats how.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

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by Savage33 on Nov 1, 2010 2:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I say that if you are skilled enough to kick a puck out of the air and into the net..

Then, dangit..it should count.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 29, 2010 8:57 PM MDT reply actions  

I don’t like kicking out of the air. Too much chance for carnage with blades flying around like that.

Hockey- goddamn it's cool.

by TheRed on Oct 29, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

See: Clint Malarchuk

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by JackAvsFan on Oct 29, 2010 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

The trapezoid is the worst. I’d like to see the goalie equipment smaller. Not only more goals but the goalie can move and skate, with lighter pads. As bad as some of Patrick’s goal wanderings were, it sure added to the fun. Would place more emphasis on quick and
agile over size of the goalie. I believe one of Karlsson’s leg pads is bigger than Martin
St. Louis.

by AvsNippon on Oct 29, 2010 9:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Goalies seem to be able to move and skate fairly well with the current sized pads now. If they keep restricting goalie pad sizes it’ll go the other way. Teams are looking at guys like Karlsson and other big goalies because bigger goalies are allowed bigger pads to prevent injuries. The era of under 6ft goalies will come to an end if they keep making pads smaller since the players are improving and getting more accurate and the only way to combat that is by being big.

The Savage has spoken. Let it be done

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference"
R. Frost

by Savage33 on Nov 1, 2010 2:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see the point of the high stick though, you don’t want someone chopping a puck out of the air and have the follow through poke an eye out. I would go the other way and say you can’t clear the defensive zone with a high stick, that would favor the offense, also allow hand passes as long as you don’t close your hand on it.

I do remember a goal (or non-goal) from about 10 years ago that Luc Robitaille headed in, something like that should be a goal, maybe if you can knock it in with a closed fist that could be a goal. And if you skate is less than 6" or so off the ice that should count too.

From Aebischer to Yip, excluding Young.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 9:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Good points all but...

we really do need to trade for Thomas…

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by i2strange97 on Oct 29, 2010 10:12 PM MDT reply actions  

And Savard. I hear he has no concussion issues.

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by Randy Time on Oct 29, 2010 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right.

Savard, Thomas and a 3rd round pick in 2011 for Stewie, Duchene, Barrie, our 2nd rounder in 2011 and our 2nd rounder in 2012.

Matt Duchene, better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk!!!

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by i2strange97 on Oct 29, 2010 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

You actually cannot high stick the puck down and play it.

Having rules against high sticking the puck and not kicking in goals made a lot of sense 100 years ago. Goalies didnt even have pads back then so going into the crease and kicking around while wearing skates would be a good way to get people sliced open.

Now with all the protective equipment I dont think there would be any huge safety concerns. What annoys me most is that the definition of “distinct kicking motion” changes from day to day. We see the exact same play with two different results.

by NEB on Oct 29, 2010 10:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Joe Sakic’s calf, plus Richard Zednick and Clint Malarchuk’s throats, disagree with you.

Hockey- goddamn it's cool.

by TheRed on Oct 29, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. Those rules aren’t to avoid scoring, they’re to avoid scalping.

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by Dixomatic on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Adjust the rule to “The skate must be touching the ice.” That is much more definitive than “distinct kicking motion”.

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Oct 30, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like that.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thats a great idea untill some beer league hack does it and rips a hole in your pads. All leagues will end up adopting the NHL rules and I don’t know about Mike, Derek or the other goalies here but I sure as hell don’t want to replace $1200 pads every few months because players are allowed to kick in the crease. Getting wacked in the glove by a sticks bad enough, I don’t want anyone kicking any where near my glove.

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by Savage33 on Nov 1, 2010 2:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

What they really have to fix (besides the trapezoid, of course) is the icing rule. They should either let them fight for the puck again or introduce no-touch icing. What they have right now doesn’t make any sense.

by StiflersMom on Oct 30, 2010 3:20 AM MDT reply actions  

I’d simply like to see linesman be able to call penalties, and see the on-ice officials call penalties period.

by niwotsblessing on Oct 30, 2010 9:16 AM MDT reply actions  

I’d like to see more clarity on reviewing goals. Why some can be reviewed and on others can’t is crap.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

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