Hannan Traded To Washington
Per Bob McKenzie's Twitter....details to follow
What is going on here?
EDIT* Avs get Fleishman
Editor's Addtion: It's official. Avs' website has it posted. No additional players involved in the trade.
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Just beat me to it haha
WTF crazyness!!!
Lord Howard, Thy Holy Osgood, and Todd Bertuzzi --The Trinity of douche bags.
by SportsDalaiLama on Nov 30, 2010 10:15 AM MST reply actions
I’m looking for confirmation…you’ll be front paged as soon as I get it!
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:18 AM MST reply actions
Dater confirms it…Hannan for Tomas Fleischman.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:20 AM MST reply actions
And it looks like I’m doing yet ANOTHER Checking Out article this week.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
may not be done either
but the next one may be more actually “checking out” from Colorado
2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing
I guess everyone was right with the speculation from yesterday. Fleishman is a solid winger for the Caps and has been overshadowed by Ovey and Semin. I actually love this move and think it will work out great.
Lets not forget where he comes from tho…drafted by Detroit in 02
Fleishman is a solid winger for the Caps
You’re going to be sorely disappointed.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
More Red Wings draftees joining the Avs
Should make some people happy, I guess?
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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Nov 30, 2010 10:22 AM MST reply actions
cough cough Red Wing Dave cough cough
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
I think Holos is back in the line up…
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
maybe maybe not
Quincey, ROB, Liles, Foote, Hunwick, Shattenkirk
2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing
I meant for tonight…at least.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
not yet but soon
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
Unless Fleischman jumps into the line up for tonight (which may or may not happen) then they’ll need 7 D. If they go with the D, it’s got to be Holos, don’t you think? Foote’s still out.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
holøs is back in LE though. I assume if he could make it in time then so could Fleischman. Dammit we need a nickname, i dont want to type that anymore
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
They call him Flash elsewhere…I’m going to hold off on a name until I see him play. He better be damn fast in order to deserve that nickname.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
No way is he faster than what we already have.
I just hope he rises to the occasion
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 6 recs
Rise to the occasion. Ouch.
But still recced!
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010!
by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, not my best effort. But I have no shame, so it is what it is.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Cue yeast infection jokes in 3... 2... 1...
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by Ryan Classic on Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
The Brew-some 2-some
Will he be on a line with Porter?
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In German, Fleisch means meat. So he’s a butcher. And if he sucks, we can call him botcher.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
Butcher is a name that should be reserved for a Parker type. Fleischman has to work his way up from Deli-Counter Attendant first.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Don’t forget that Koci is supposed to be our tough guy, this team doesn’t even know what a Parker-like player is.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Yup.
Still is!
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Let me apologize in advance for Fleischmann. You’ll grow to loathe him.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
He’s a ginger. :)
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Avs already have one.
We don’t have any souls as it is.
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2010 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Awesome avatar and screen name.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Would you like a banger in the mouth?
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Non-gingers will take you being offended into account, at 1/20th the importance of “normal” people’s offense, of course.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
PS
Look, I can take it, but that’s pretty fucking insulting. What pisses me off is that gingers are fair game but blacks and homosexuals (or any other in vogue taboo PC group) are not.
My personal preference is for ALL groups to lighten up about humor, but if not, then ALL personal insults should be refrained from.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
wait…you’re serious?
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah. Mostly. I’m joking a little bit too, but…
I wouldn’t care if it weren’t for the fact that it seems that we can’t make fun of certain groups around here, but its open season on my particular one. I probably wouldn’t say anything at all if it weren’t for the occasional hysteria I see here whenever a slightly-offensive-to-one-segment-of-the-society joke is made. IMO it’s hypocritical to get all butt hurt about one but not the other. The fact that redheads are looked down upon is very real. I know people think it’s all funny because South Park made a joke, but SP jokes about everyone (not to mention the fact that Trey and Matt admitted they don’t like redheads and avoid them). That’s not the case at MHH.
Non
gingersblacks will take you being offended into account, at 1/20th the importance of "normal" people’s offense, of course
How would this be taken? Would a black person who saw this and got offended be asked if they were serious?
Now, all that being said, I enjoy trading insults when it’s done in fun, and I’m not trying to get everyone to screen their comments past the PC police before posting. I just would not like redheads to be the only appearance based group it’s ok to bash on.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
by TheRed on Nov 30, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
That’s kind of crazy. I can’t imagine people looking down on redheads at all, unless it was just the PC version of the 100-year-old (at least in America) looking down on the Irish. In other words, a way to look down on the Irish without admitting that’s what you’re doing.
But heck, my favorite wife is a redhead, or was when I met her. When I have hair, I certainly have a touch of red and even more in the beard. So, I’m with you, pal. Screw the world, redheads unite!
okay, Red, it makes sense. point taken
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
To be fair the only red head I don’t like is Dater. It has nothing to do with his hair color. It has to do with his personality. You make an excellent point though Red. +1 to you!
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
You know what’s hot? The red-headed chick from That 70’s Show.
Wait, what are we talking about?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I personally like Alyson Hannigan
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
by Randy Time on Nov 30, 2010 6:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think she is very pretty! :)
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I keep telling Santa that I want her for Christmas, but no luck so far.
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
Have you seen that episode of How I Met Your Mother where Alyson Hannigan’s character meets her evil stripper twin? Good episode.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
I keep asking for either a guy who likes hockey, no luck for me either!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 1, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
I think you have better odds than Randy and Alyson
by MalachiConstant on Dec 1, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
Hahaha
Yeah, no, only football players, rugby guys and basketball players… no hockey guys yet! Gotta get me a hockey fan, or player! ;)
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
When I was 15 my mom asked me what I wanted for Christmas. I said Wendy Wilson from Wilson Phillips (yes, I’m that old – the lawn – OFF!).
Mom wasn’t amused.
Even though I said she didn’t even need to be wrapped!
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Sadly I’m old enough to remember that band. Ya gotta hold on for one more day!
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
My Mum always laughs at my Tanguay shirt.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
How’s this for weird. Of groups that it is still popular to make jokes about (although just as inappropriate as any other group imho), you could include 1) gingers and 2) women.
However, when combined, red-headed women are one of the most revered groups of people on the planet (at least for internet addicted young males).
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
Bob’s having a fantasy about Lauren while reading your post, I am sure of it!
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Good god yes. You beat me to it by 2 seconds.
Your 2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: What's Luck Got to do with it?
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Lauren Gardner, KSE goddess who does stuff during Av games. Google her when you have some alone time.
Your 2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: What's Luck Got to do with it?
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
Hey now! That’s uncool!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry.
It’s a running joke over at Japers’ Rink. Didn’t think it would offend. As penance, allow me to present you with this:
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
your penance is accepted. Honestly a lot of my butt hurt came from stuff that has happened on this site in recent history, so you most likely wouldn’t have known.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
Stuff has happened about Red-heads here? Wow, over my mahogany- hair.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
well, yes, but that wasn’t the butt hurt part. It was more towards i2strange’s picture and the reaction it got (vs the reactions other things get) a week or so ago.
I should have linked this back then
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s13e12-the-f-word
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
Tomas Fleischmann is a “skill” forward with all that term implies. He can play any of the forward positions, although his “natural” spot would be on the left wing. He was all but handed the second line center position for the Caps to start this season, but he is not a particularly adept faceoff man, and his defense can be at times iffy. He is not a fast skater, but he is shifty and has excellent hands that make him a superior puck handler in tight quarters.
Fleischmann is not a physical player by any means. If he isn’t contributing at the offensive end he can be almost invisible. There are also issues about his health. He missed six games to pneumonia in January 2009, and he missed the start of the 2009-2010 season rehabbing from the after effects of a blood clot in his leg (the product, it was assumed, of his blocking a shot in the playoffs and a subsequent long air flight to Europe after the Caps were eliminated). He missed the first ten games of last season as a result.
There always has been a question with Fleischmann about his being sturdy enough to endure the grind of the NHL. He has added bulk since he moved up to the NHL, but he can be moved off the puck and doesn’t generally stick his nose in high-traffic areas. He can contribute 20 or more goals in a full season (he had 10, 19, and 23 the past three years, but has only four in 23 games so far this season), and he is a very adept passer. He had a knack for the big goal when he was at Hershey in the AHL, but less so with the Caps (as much a product of ice time and responsibility as anything). If there is a player from out west he might resemble in terms of production and style, it might be Ales Hemsky from Edmonton, although this year to date represented a step backward from his production last season.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 30, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So he’s missed 16 games in two years? The Avs have a name for a player like that:
“Ol’ Reliable”
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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 10 recs
Perhaps, but one of the things hampering him has been that while he has been in the lineup late in the year, he seemed to have run out of gas.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 30, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
No. To be fair to Flash, he’s much, much better than Arnason.
Think “poor-man’s Wolski.”
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Or, “rich-man’s bigger, healthier Svatos.”
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call him useless – very, very frustrating will probably be more accurate.
But yeah.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
The difficulty Fleischmann had with the Caps, almost ever since he joined the big club, was that he never had much of an opportunity to play in his natural position (left wing). Having Ovechkin and Semin will do that. He has played mostly on the right side with the Caps, but he was put in a difficult situation this year, having to assume major minutes at a position he had not played regularly in years (center). I suspect his trying to get used to the new responsibilities had an effect on his start, and hopefully the Avs will have a spot that he can call his own, at least for the duration of the season.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 30, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
We definitely need LWers…
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
He will NOT be playing center on this team, that’s a lock. (Unless snowblower accidents become en vogue again…)
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by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No. I did. Svats was fun as hell to watch, but after the injuries he, rightly, stopped going to the high traffic areas as much. His shooting percentage and goal-scoring nose-dived and he became. . . a poor man’s Tomas Fleischmann.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Svatos could never pass, and his puck handling was always worse than Flash. different players imo, very different.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Yeah, but once he stopped going to the net. . .
You’ll have to see about Flash. He wasn’t necessarily a passer/playmaker coming up – he was a goal-scorer. Like Svatos, his production depends on how willing he is to go to the net. If he’s playing on the perimeter, he’ll get some assists, but he won’t score much.
Again, using other players as comps is imperfect, but if you think “less-talented and less flaky than Wolski,” and “bigger, but shifty and floaty like late-career Svatos” you won’t be far off. A poor-man’s Ales Hemsky is another way of looking at it (although I think that’s a bit too much credit).
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
How about a wealthy man’s TJ Hensick?
Or a destitute transsexual’s Alex Tanguay?
Or a middle-class woman’s Jiri Hudler?
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 30, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
What gave it away?
It was the mom jeans, wasn’t it?
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Tanguay doesn’t look like he could be a tranny crackhead?
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Pretty sure you are thinking of Mike Ricci
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
I like Tangs! He’s a little bald at the moment, but he wasn’t bad looking….
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
Looking at all the articles I did for the Checking Out piece on Fleischmann, I have to say I disagree with your assessment that he’s not a playmaker and won’t score many assists. It seems, and not just to me as his coaches, teammates and critics all say it too, that his passing and ability to create offense are his biggest assets.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
So, he may actually be a lot like Tanguay?
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
Well, seeing as he’s run a similar stat line pretty much every year since he became a pro with an assist total within around 5 assists of his goal total when most players, playmakers in particular, have many more assists than goals I’d say the evidence isn’t there to back you up. Tanguay, a typical playmaking wing, typically had about 20 more assists than goals every year, for example.
He’s not a bad passer, and he’ll rip off some pretty good ones, but he thinks shot first and foremost, and his assist totals bear that out.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
He is not a fast skater
Really, P? I’d disagree. He’s not blinding, but he’s certainly above average for the NHL.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I’d describe him more as “quick”
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by ThePeerless on Nov 30, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
On this team he’ll either skate or sit. Speed is the drug of choice here.
Detroit is peopled entirely by slovenly ill-informed troglodytes, excepting of course the few Avalanche fans who are victims of unfortunate circumstance.
by Busted Twigg on Nov 30, 2010 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Selling Hemsky way short, Peerless. But otherwise, agreed.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 30, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
he's UFA after this year
so if he struggles then no loss
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Let’s just say we’re happy to be rid of him.
As both an Avs fan and a Caps fan, I’m torn. Flash fills an immediate need for the Avs, but he’s just not very good. He’ll get points on the PP, but disappear for games at a time.
He’s like a less-talented Wolski.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
FWIW, Coyotes’ fans said the same thing about Mueller…
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
you meant the Mueller w/ no games played this year? I’d rather have Wolski back just so we could make a more intelligent trade
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
(1) You are apparently forgetting how important Mueller was in getting the team into the playoffs last year.
(2) Porter.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
yes but, i wonder if its going to be a step back in the long term of this rebuild. If Mueller cant come back then Wolski, who had high value went Porter and thats all, and thats not enough for his value at the time
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
No. Trust me. Flash will drive you batty.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
It’s a trade up. Hannan drove me batshit.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Hahahaha. Fair enough. Like I said below, both teams can easily win this trade. Both teams had a clear necessity and they filled it. Hannan might be the “better” player overall, but Flash is cheaper and younger. Maybe the Avs can find a diamond in the rough.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
The “change of scenery” factor could come into play here, too.
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Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Especially if that change involves Cleveland if he isn’t getting the job done when some other forwards return to health. Never underestimate the motivational power of a trip to Ohio.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
I thought our best D-man this season was Hannan. I like this trade, though.
by toothandnailer777 on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM MST reply actions
You didn’t see Liles play, I’m guessing?
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I think a lot of players will waive that NTC on their last year to go a very obvious cup contender.
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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Nov 30, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
It also give him an inside edge on a contract after this season if he like Washington and they like him. If he knows the Avs aren’t likely to re-sign him this is a good move for him.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
This is a great fit for Hannan. Not surprised he waived it.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Good move for him, DC needs the help to get further in the playoffs. Best of luck Scott!
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by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
yes. he waived it. first time i can remember the Avs having a player do that.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Bottom line
Both teams can win this trade. Given Hannan’s NTC, the Avs might not have got much more for him, and they had to take salary back to stay above the floor.
Fleischmann is going to drive you nuts though. If you found Wolski frustrating. . .
Still, the Avs were desperate for a wing and help on the PP and Flash fits that bill. If Sacco force-feeds him PP time out there with Duchy or Stats, he could pot 20 goals. Just be prepared for lots and lots of floating.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Keep in mind, he’s not going to be expected to be an All-Star or anything. He just needs to fill some space until Stewart and Galiardi and even Mueller are back. There shouldn’t be any illusions that Flash is our long-term solution at left wing or anything.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Oh, totally. That’s why both teams can win this trade. Hannan is clearly the better player overall, but the Avs have dire short-term need.
The big problem with Flash is that his production is almost entirely PP-based. If and when Mueller, Galiardi, Stewart, et. al get healthy, he likely won’t get much PP TOI. That’s when his production will crater.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Maybe he’ll be traded again at that time. Rental.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
yeah good playoff rental… worth more at deadline if he takes off with Avs
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Can you be traded twice in one season? Maybe I’m wrong, but doesn’t he have to stay with the team or it’s affiliates for the remainder of the season?
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not aware of any such rule.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Wasn’t Wilson on 3 teams in one week? Vancouver, Calgary and Colorado?
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I think you’re thinking Lawrence Nycholat
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Who, ironically, is with the Capitals organization (in Hershey).
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by Steck It Out on Nov 30, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
We have established that you dislike Flash, thanks. Let’s see how he does with the Avs. Lots of people hated Mueller too and found him rejuvenated here.
I think he might fit well with Duchene at ES. we all know Duchene needs someone with passing ability on that LW, and it just hasn’t been there with Mueller down.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Lots of people hated Mueller too and found him rejuvenated here.
Mueller’s issues were quite different. He had a ton of potential, a great rookie season and then. . . it all just disappeared and he fell into the coach’s doghouse, never to emerge. Mueller’s issues weren’t with his game, they were in his head.
Flash, on the other hand, has been force-fed opportunities by the Caps’ coaching staff. Boudreau loves him from their days together in Hershey and he treats him like a son sometimes (maybe a red-headed step-son).
At this point, and unlike Mueller, Flash is a known quantity. He’s a soft, skilled winger who can put up 20-25G with lots and lots of PP TOI. He’s floaty both offensively and defensively, which means that he’ll go into some god-awful slumps.
On the positive side, he’s got a good shot, he’s fast even with the puck on his stick, he’s versatile, and he’s a good passer.
Ultimately, he’s like Wolski, really talented but flaky and inconsistent with a tendency to disappear.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
by D'ohboy on Nov 30, 2010 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I think many Phx fans would differ with you. Mueller was given many opportunities with them, and only at the end hit the doghouse, as far as I know. To a man, Phx fans considered Mueller a floater, and I’m not sure about the distinction between his game and his head.
We’ll see how Flash fits here. I think there’s a great chance for him to mesh well with Duchene or Stastny, especially Duchene. It will be all about chemistry.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
It will be all aboutchemistrychemAstry.
fixed.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, I’m an Avs fan, so I’m rooting for Flash, just as I did when he was a Cap.
I just don’t want folks to think they’re getting more than they are.
I also think that the situation with Flash was qualitatively different than Mueller. You may say he was “given opportunities,” but the kid was 21 when the Avs traded for him and in the middle of his 3rd NHL season. Flash is 26 and in his 6th NHL season. He’s a bit more of a known quantity.
It’ll be interesting to see him skate with Duch or Stats. I just think it’ll be all about the PP, moreso than chemistry.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Well, calling him a poor man’s Wolski seems a bit of an exaggeration. Flash isn’t a grinder by any means, but I’ve always thought his offensive instincts and playmaking ability were good (despite what many say, Wolski’s lack of offenive instinct and vision were huge issues). And Flash doesn’t lack in effort when I’ve seen him, merely in physical play. Wolski always struggled in effort AND physical play.
Before you call him Wolski 2.0, let’s give him a chance not on that disaster of a 2nd line in Washington. I think they’re quite different players. Do you really think Sherman and Sacco would go get another Wolski, a player whose mental game they absolutely detested?
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Maybe it’s a slight exaggeration. Put it this way, if Wolksi’s talent was a 9 and his head was a 1, Flash’s talent is a 7 and his head is a 3.
One big difference is that Flash is super-popular in the room. He’s legitimately a great guy and everyone seems to love him. I get the feeling that the same could not always be said for Wolski.
Do you really think Sherman and Sacco would go get another Wolski, a player whose mental game they absolutely detested?
According to the Caps’ local beat reporter Corey Masisak, the Caps’ GM has been inquiring about Hannan since August. It’s possible Sherman and Sacco rejected his offers of Flash for Hannan, precisely because he doesn’t fit their “mold” and then made this move when injuries decimated the frontline.
Anyhow, that’s speculation. He might not be AS flaky as Wolski, but he’s in a similar vein. He’ll go for a week and you’ll barely notice him, then he’ll pop up, score two goals, and disappear again. Maybe with consistent TOI and PP time, he’ll blossom. I wouldn’t bet the farm on it, though.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
in terms of production, I see what you mean — though I think that terrible line chemistry-wise and playing out of position were huge factors in his lack of consistency. But Wolski 2.0 implies all kinds of things about his game, and I think Flash’s game is quite a bit different from Wolski’s.
It will be all about chemistry, I think. The Avs have been very good at finding guys that compliment each other well — RoB and Liles is simply an incredible fit and getting better, and Mueller/Porter have both been great examples as well.
My eyes tell me Duchene has needs a setup guys that can play at his skill level since he joined the team — Svatos, Jones, Tucker, Yip all didn’t/don’t have that ability, but the guys that have — Stewie, Mueller, and Hejduk, even Porter to some extent — have done fantastically. Flash is that skilled guy. It could really work.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
The Avs are HUGE on locker room presence. That’s something that was said about Hunwick a lot too. That he’s a good leader and very supportive of his teammates. Wolski was a cancer in the locker room. I wouldn’t undersestimate the influence of the attitudes in the trade. Not that Hannan wasn’t a great guy, either.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Change of Scenery
Can do wonders for a depth forward. Also clears some of the log-jam on the blueline. This trade feels good and makes yesterdays move more clear in my mind.
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by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 10:27 AM MST reply actions
Fleischmann is a C in the same way that Wolski was – totally crap-tacular at it.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
then he forgot to try again.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Wow
The one guy who was healthy AND knew how to find the defensive zone on the ice, and we trade him. Our defense is already a giant hole, might as well make it bigger.
ya, i would have expected more for hannan
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by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
never know
trade hasn’t officially been announced with full details
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It has. Just Flash.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
But our hopes of stopping Sauron take a big hit.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, it didn’t took Frodo 3 years to drop the ring into the ocean.
I really liked Hannan, but he wasn’t spectacular. I wouldn’t mind the Avs becoming a spectacular team, with Capt’n Kirk, Cumisky and Liles as D and the young guns up front.
Create a style.
Stick with it.
Win a cup.
That’s how Anaheim did it.
Or just have three great defensemen, get some good goaltending and goon it up.
That’s how Anaheim did it.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
To be fair that’s not all that different from the 01 Avs. They just had way more O than the Ducks.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
The 01 Avs also had two sure-fire HOF centers (until that nasty spleen incident), as well as several perennial all-stars in Tanguay, Hejduk and Drury.
That team was stacked to the gills.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Nah, this particular hobbit was Overthehill
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
Get it?? Instead of Underhill? Come onnnnn…
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
We got it...
We’re just trying to find the receipt so that we can return it.
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At least Hejduk has someone to talk to in his native language… : )
by toothandnailer777 on Nov 30, 2010 10:29 AM MST reply actions
Besides the big oaf known as Koci
by toothandnailer777 on Nov 30, 2010 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
Koci needs to go from this:
to this:
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d cuz now I’m gonna go watch all those movies!! =)
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Swap of good but not great players
I like it to some degree. Fleischmann (I believe they call him flash) will fit perfectly next to Duchene as a setup LW. Tough to lose Hannan and all of the steady play he brought us, but he hasn’t been great this year either.
This doesn’t indicate good things about Mueller. My guess at the lineup:
Jones – Stastny – Hejduk
Fleischmann – Duchene – Porter
Winnik – RoR – Yip
McLeod – Dupuis – Mauldin
Liles – RoB
Hunwick – Foote
Wilson – Shattenirk
I don’t like that lineup defensively at all. :/
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Many 6-5 games on the horizon.
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by SportsDalaiLama on Nov 30, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
Fleischmann – Duchene – Porter
I don’t like that lineup defensively at all. :/
Truer words were never spoken.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Defensively, maybe not. But I think with Duchene, Flash will do pretty well.
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by Steck It Out on Nov 30, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Can we call that the Czech’s Mix Line?
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
by c6hor8 on Nov 30, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Heh, I say we go with that anyway. Would definitely work with Stastny as center (heritage).
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
The Slovakian Stastny might disagree.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
It was still Czechoslovakia when the brothers defected wasn’t it? That’s what I was going for. Might be they still would take offense to it. Beats me.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
Yup, it was Czechoslovakia, in all of its communistic glory.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
In my limited experience, Slovaks tend to be pretty proud of the fact and don’t really like being called Czechs. Whatever. Stats is AMERICAN!!! USA!!! USA!!!
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Actually, SoS has dual citizenship. And Peter has called himself “Czech” before.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
I knew about the dual-citizenship, but now that he’s played for Team USA. . .
Did Peter really call himself Czech after the Velvet Divorce?
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I read an article about the whole defection thing and he did in that context. Something like “I was a Czech national so….”
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
He’s still a dual citizen. He is still a Canadian born- American player.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
The Czeching Line?
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, if it was me I’d try to spread things out some more and put Quincey in:
Winnik – Stastny – Jones
Flash – Duchene – Hejduk
McLeod – RoR – Porter
Yip – Dupuis – Mauldin
Liles – RoB
Hunwick – Foote
Quincey – Shattenkirk
Wilson
the lines further above were a guess at what Sacco would do.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Winnik gets the promotion of the year, I see.
I’m thinking Flash will start with Stastny because of Mauldin’ success with Duchene over the weekend.
But dear god, we sure did get meek up front with Stewart out of the lineup.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Here's what I'd like to see (I also think it's feasible)
Jones – SoS – Porter
Yeastie Boy – Dutchy – Duke
Winnik – Radar – Mauldin
Highlander – Dupuis – Yip
Hotpocket – RoB
Quincey – Ensign Kirk
Hunwick – Mack Truck
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Your lineup brings up a good point
Wtf is going on with Yip? He hasn’t been good. At all.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
I had been telling Randy that I thought Yip would be the next one out…
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
I disagree, it depends on his line. He if he is on the top line, he is a grinder who gets dirty goals. If he is on the 3rd, he’s a checker.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Yip hasn’t been bad, but he’s been a non factor. Of course I was unable to see the last two games….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
for all his shooting prowess and solid work along the boards, he can’t pass or handle the puck, and thus he’s anathema to line chemistry. he’s like a giant Svatos.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Wow we disagree on Yip pretty badly. I think his play is completely dependent on his line mates. He compliments skilled players well by being a grinder. Regardless
When Stewart comes back, I would imagine Flash stays with Hejduk. That would move Galiardi and Winnick with the Factor.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
You sound just like Dater
About a week ago he had a small blurb that said something to the affect that Yip’s ice time was shrinking. And then…nothing. No analysis why. No digging with the coaches. No digging with Yip. Just that Yip was getting less time on the ice. Just awesome.
You watch the games, Bob. What’s your analysis?
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Sometimes I think a guy like Yip comes into the league and takes people by surprise with his grit and willingness to go hard to the net. Then once everyone stops underestimating him, his production settles into a more realistic level.
I like Yip, but he always seemed to be overachieving, and I could never drink the altiboob Koolaid about him.
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by Rapierwhitt on Nov 30, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Uhh. I disagree and counter with a: “He was still looking fantastic defensively with Radar.”
by Andy_ on Nov 30, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I don’t think he’d be getting placed on a higher line if Sacco felt he wasn’t playing well.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
I love a woman who stands up for her Man.
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010!
by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
this, winnik just got a promotion before going down. oh, and his line scored on one of his first shifts of that promotion. no regression there
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
guess this means mueller is out all year.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 30, 2010 10:32 AM MST reply actions
i wouldnt say that. but he, stewie and gally are out long enough to lose us the playoff race without help
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Somewhere, Dan is doing the craziest happy dance anyone has ever seen.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:35 AM MST reply actions
I thought the same thing as soon as I saw this, hahaha.
by xskatebakerrx on Nov 30, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve seen Dan do a happy dance. It ain’t pretty.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
You just didn’t like it cause your mom was involved (Bob’s Mama!).
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
That’s right, my Mama! (it goes way back, don’t ask)
Your 2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: What's Luck Got to do with it?
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
also, i love when deals happen for players eklunds never said the names of. his continual failure makes me happy
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:35 AM MST reply actions
Wow! They're coming in clumps, all right!
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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 30, 2010 10:36 AM MST reply actions
My biggest problem with these two connected moves
Is we bought way low on them, and gave up a really good defender and another with good potential. Maybe both snap out of their funks, but I’m not going to bank on it.
In the end, I think we didn’t fill any actual need. The offense is still awesome, and the defense is even crappier.
hannan funk? i think he’s been solid all season
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
gotcha, yup its super reassuring. As well as Mueller Winnik etc have worked for us. At some point I’d like them to trade for someone who is just good, no arguments no slumps, just talented and high achieving who can fit in our top 2 lines
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, eventually you’d think our luck with this type of stuff would run out. Of course, we are the Avalanche, the luckiest team this side of the Luckberg Shamrock-Horseshoe-Rabbitsfeet of the Luckingstone Elite League.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
luckiest except for injuries
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Open letter to the 28 other NHL GMs:
“Washington made a mistake. They got a terribly overpaid defenseman without any offensive impact whatsoever. They’ll regret this decision very soon. But you’re smarter than George McPhee, aren’t you? Don’t be stupid, ask for the one and only Kyle Cumiskey as long as he’s available. He’s the fastest defenseman you’ll ever see and everybody knows that a fast hockey player can’t be bad. Greg Sherman is weak and inexperienced, he’d trade him for just one, I repeat, just one of your top 6 forwards (top 3 if you’re Edmonton, Florida, Toronto or the Islanders). Call him immediately!”
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 10:38 AM MST reply actions 3 recs
hall? no thanks gimme eberle or pajaarvi
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
For the love of Roy
Please make it both Kyles.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Don’t include Toronto in this. You’ll remind them they only have one top-three winger and make them get all sad again.
Nazem Kadri is filling in the #1 center spot ffs xD
Shattencup
by SteveHouse on Nov 30, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn’t Hannan highly paid? Don’t we have even less salary now? or did that even out with getting both Hunwick and Tomas Fleischmann? I’m so so on this trade (negative on giving up Cohen)…Hannan was a solid stay at home d-man, and now we really don’t have one anymore.
I’m curious to see what he’ll be like paired up with Green. Washington now has a guy who can’t handle the puck enough and a guy who is seemingly allergic to it.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
He probably won’t be, at least not at first. My guess is he’ll start paired with Tom Poti, unless we’re dealing with injuries. Is he a lefty or a righty?
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Lefty.
My guess is he’ll be with Poti as well. Schultz-Green go well together.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, sounds right. Caps D probably looks like this to start with:
Green – Schultz
Carlson – Alzner
Poti – Hannan
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
No doubt the Caps are looking better after this. I’m sure the East is glad to see the frontrunners grab a defenseman.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Pittsburgh and Philly were the frontrunners after this offseason, but I’m super-high on this trade for WSH. 6D was arguably the weakest position in the lineup (and it was very, very weak) and it got a lot better. Still need a 2C desperately, but I’m much more sanguine about the Caps’ chances today than I was yesterday.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 30, 2010 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
Hannan – 4.5M
Fleischmann (2.6M) + Hunwick (1.4M) – 4M
So we lost another 500K. A perfect day for Enos.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Dont forget to add O’Byrne though
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Add another 1M then. Enos lost another 500K for something he doesn’t even care about.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Fleischmann...
- 14 aka Lappy’s number ugh I’m already starting out not liking him because of this lol
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by SportsDalaiLama on Nov 30, 2010 10:48 AM MST reply actions
I think this explains the deal in a nutshell (emphasis mine):
Sherman: "In Tomas we are acquiring a top-six forward who is only 26 years old. His addition will bolster our lineup immediately."
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:52 AM MST reply actions
I just realized this guy has as many assists as, drumroll Hannan!!!!…this guy coming from the Caps!…Jesus…
The Caps 2nd line has not worked out at all. It’s pretty much a disaster, and it has a lot to do with Fleischmann not working at center, and no other options really there.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Yup. That and the fact that Boudreau has bumped Semin up to the top line pretty regularly.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Boudreau has bumped Semin
hehe … I’m 12.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Oh, you should have seen the length of the thread we had at Japers’ Rink when Matt Bradley accidentally called Semin “Jizz” on the air.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
LOL!!!!!!!!
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by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
When’s our next game against the Caps? 1000 bucks that Hannan is gonna score a hat trick then.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
I’ll take that bet.
Wait, you’re not DetAvs in disguise, are you?
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
FYI, the Caps are playing the Blues tomorrow. I wonder if that mistake in the article Sandie put in Links-n-Bits post was foreshadowing, psychic wonder, or someone knowing something he/she couldn’t talk about. Or it could’ve just been a fuck up.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 10:56 AM MST reply actions
OK, Serious this time
Won’t this put us under the cap floor? Fleishman’s cap hit number is only 1.845M. Hannan’s was $4.5M, I think. Also, Fleishman will be a UFA after this season. Wtf is going on here?
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 AM MST reply actions
Gearing up to sign someone awesome for big money? Probably not, but I sure am hoping!
by xskatebakerrx on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Add Hunwick and O’byrne
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
So we'll have the opposite problem as NJ
We’ll have to keep a roster of about 25 players to stay over the floor then.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Luckily our nachos are among the league’s best, so drawing press box squatters won’t be an issue.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
Among the league’s best if not the best nachos you’ll ever have the chance to eat.
- The Altidudes and David Koci
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
Nah, the Altiboobs are really into (free) hot dogs and (cheap) Subway sandwiches. If they have to pay arena prices for nachos, they’ll pass.
Detroit is peopled entirely by slovenly ill-informed troglodytes, excepting of course the few Avalanche fans who are victims of unfortunate circumstance.
by Busted Twigg on Nov 30, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
No, it won't put us under the cap floor.
At opening day, the Avs were just above the cap floor. The injuries notwithstanding, the cap hits of the injured players don’t come off the books, but additional space above the cap (note, you may want to google the definition of above the cap. As an Avs’ fan, you’re excused for being unfamiliar with the concept).
In addition to the salaries of the injured players, which already had the team above the cap, add in the cap hits for players like Holos, Cohen, Shattenkirk, Porter, Mauldin, Olver, VDG and others who’ve been called up. Add to that the increased cap hits of the Snatch, Hunwick and Fleischman trades and the Avs are well above the floor.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
And in other news, Dan just got fired for dancing a jig at work.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 AM MST reply actions
Hannan's hit is only 3.1 mil.
That is made up by Snatch, Hunwick and Fleischman
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Do Cohen and Bournival not count against the cap since they were officially on Erie’s roster?
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t think so, isn’t he still playing in the CHL?
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
As far as I remember, he was still playing in the QMJHL when he was traded.
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by Steck It Out on Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
No. They only count if they are a) on a pro contract (I don’t think Bournival was) and b) are playing in the NHL. So Cohen only counted against the cap for those 3 games.
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That’s what I thought.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
False. Hannan’s hit is $4.5M / season. So sayeth capgeek.com
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
I am seeing the exact opposite on capgeek. I went to the trade calculator and Hanna’s hit is 3.1.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
pro-rated
the Caps pick up $3.1 mill.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
The 3.1M is Hannan’s prorated hit this year for the Caps. And the $1.845M is Fleishman’s prorated hit for the Avs. But with the other pickups, it does look like they are still barely over the floor.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Hannan's hit is $4.5 mil
Or are you talking about 1/4 into the season?
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Potentially...
Both teams benefit from this. As much as I did love Hannan for his consistency, I can’t pretent I wasn’t disappointed with how things turned out with him given the hype when he was signed.
And besides, now holos has a slightly better chance of cracking the lineup than the broncos do of making the superbowl. That’s better than yesterday, right?
by TheFightingFarsi on Nov 30, 2010 11:02 AM MST reply actions
As someone who desperately wanted Flash gone from the Caps, I’m hoping he pans out for you guys. He’s regarded as a good guy but he was just such a horrible fit for the team. Half of that is the coaching staff’s fault for forcing him into center when he pretty clearly didn’t have the ability to do so. I’m honestly interested to see if he plays better when he’s back at his natural side.
From what I’ve read, Hannan is a solid vet D who fixes the massive defensive gap between the first two pairings and the third pairing. With all that experience, he’ll hopefully be able to mentor our two rookies as well.
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
Hannan is terrible at moving the puck, doesn’t hit anyone, and he’s not the biggest or fastest guy by any stretch. What he does do is play very solid positional defense and take away space from the opposition, and he’s pretty good at clearing the puck (just don’t expect possession).
Lot’s of people hate him because he doesn’t do those flashy things like hit or play offense, but if you set your expectations properly, you’ll see he’s a good player. Our best true defender, sorry to see him go. Happy at the return though, I think Flash will fit nicely on the left side for us.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
best true defender
This is what the Caps needed. Desperately.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
It’s also what the Avs need desperately, oddly.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yep
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Ehhhhh. . . maybe. I’ve been very impressed with the play of Liles and Shattenkirk this year. I’m still wondering why Holos got sent down.
In several comments over at Japers’ Rink, I suggested that the Avs could move Quincey to the Caps, since KQ seems to have fallen out of favor a bit an Hannan had the NTC.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I would have much rather given up Quincey, but it is what it is. Hannah is a UFA next summer and probably wasn’t coming back, so it’s not like I’m devastated.
I’m liking the move.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
Me too. Hannan has been infinitely better than Quincey this season. Which is, of course, not saying much.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I’m glad they got something in return for him, rather than just losing him as a UFA. But I wonder what losing his veteran presence will do when it comes time for playoffs.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not sure how concerned Avs management is about the playoffs this year.
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They may not be concerned with it, but the players definitely are. And I think they’ll squeak in again at 7th or 8th. Then what happens? Learning experience, for sure, but going further than at best a 6 game series in the first would make for better learning. But who knows. It’s a long time away.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Bear in mind, Hannan’s only playoff experience has been on SJS and then in 07 & 10 with COL.
Fleischmann’s has been with WSH. It’s not as though either of them have any particular idea as to “how to win it all” or even get to a Cup Finals.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
also...
if this injured team can stay in the hunt and we get healthy for playoffs i wouldnt count us out of anything. Do i think we’ll win the cup? its a longshot, but i think we could certainly go a round or two. When healthy, we’ll be one of the most offensively deep teams in the league
Jones-Stazz-Stewie
Mueller-Dutchy-Duke
Galli-RoR-Yip
Winnik-Porter-Mauldin
plus Liles, Shatty and ideally Hunwick?
Add to that finally having Craig Anderson back to form and I dont see any reason this team shouldnt make a real playoff run
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
I still insist Winnik goes ahead of Yip, but that 4 really nice looking lines right there.
More Trades, Please.
now yes. but i think yip will get a trip to LEM before this is over (see Stewart, Chris) and come back playing his best hockey yet
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
wow, i didnt even add flash, in a thread where the focus is him. i guess this illustrates the clusterfuck of lines when he gets back.
3rd Flash-RoR-Yip
4th Gally-Porter-Winnik
or flash will take the 2nd line spot if Mueller never comes back
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
With everybody healthy and Yeastie Boy playing to potential, I actually think that you drop Jones down to the 3rd for something like:
Yeastie Boy – SoS – Stewie
Ferris – Dutchy – Duke
Jones – Radar/Gali – Winnik
Porter – Radar/Gali – Mauldin/Yip
OMG OMG OMG!!!!
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
not sure. I like Jones’ physicality (supposedly more than flash) on the top line and he has as many goals so far as flash has points, and in fewer games. so he may be the better winger overall.
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Just assuming Ferris is out for the haul...
Jones – SoS – Stewie
Flash – Matty – Duke
Gali – Radar – Winnik
Yip – Porter – Mauldin
And I’m honestly no less excited than with Mueller in the lineup.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
Porter will play wing and Gali will be center.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Why’s that? Porter is a natural center as well isn’t he? Gali has a bit more size on Porter and has played really well at the wing as a grinder.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Ah, did not realize this was the case.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
I potentially see him as being awesome against Stamkos, but terrible against Crosby, but it’s not likely he’ll see those guys much anyway.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
The only player I’ve seen legitmately shut down Sidney Crosby is Nik Lidstrom (and he had a lot of help from Zetterberg). Malkin ran wild over the rest of the Wings when they did that, too.
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by Knee high to a duck on Nov 30, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
and he’s pretty good at clearing the puck (just don’t expect possession).
The first time I see a successful backhand clear on the PK, there’s a good chance I have an instant heart attack.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 30, 2010 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
I like Hannan
A lot actually. He was an UFA and among other things, this acts as a way to get something back in return.
The question remains, when Stewart, and Galiardi, and Mueller all come back what happens…
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Frankly, I see this trade as unspoken confirmation that the team shares our fears re: Ferris’ prospects for a meaningful return – at least this year.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Perhaps it’s been mentioned and I missed it. Is Flash UFA as well, or is he under contract for more years?
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
He’ll be a UFA after this season. I think we’ll struggle to get to the cap floor again if we don’t sign him to an extension.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
no worries. we’ve got a bunch of RFAs this summer (including Hunwick)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Andy will get a bigger contract and Jones, Gali, RoB, Hunwick, Wilson, Cumiskey, Porter, and Dupuis will all be RFAs. And Flash and Budaj UFAs. I would expect we’ll find the floor easily with all that, even if we let some go.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Dater said it could go either way — depending on travel time ,etc
by toothandnailer777 on Nov 30, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
It’s a late start, so unless he’s flying Frontier, he should make it in time. If he’s on Frontier, expect those bastards to bump him to standby or reroute him through Seattle.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
by Dixomatic on Nov 30, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Or turn his plane around thirty minutes into the flight because “something is wrong” with it and they’re going to “try to find a spare plane somewhere” to put him on instead. Not like I’ve experienced it or anything….especially not on the Wed before Thanksgiving…ruining plans that night….not like that at all.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Not like that at all...
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
Its a 3 hour flight and there are a lot of direct flights from Dulles. Not sure about National.
by Inebriated Simian Miscreants on Nov 30, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
Not sure why anybody in their right mind flys through Dulles.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
That is my favorite airport. Used it all the time when I lived in Northern Virginia. I can think of many worse airports, like the heap of crap that is Philly International, which I have to use now since I live near Philly.
by Inebriated Simian Miscreants on Nov 30, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, I should have started with this question:
Why would anyone in their right mind live outside the beltway?
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
Fair question. I worked outside the beltway, and traffic is hell there.
In anticipation of the follow up question, “Why would anyone in their right mind work outside the beltway?”, the answer is simple. Because they were willing to pay me.
by Inebriated Simian Miscreants on Nov 30, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
make my guess yes, but it’ll be tight.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
He’ll pull a Footer and join in for the 2nd period.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
most likely this
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Still one of my favorite moments of that season.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
Brief thought on both trades
Sorry to anyone who may have mentioned this earlier, I’ve been doing some writing and not paying too much attention to these posts.
Anyway, both Bruins and Caps fans seem to be saying their respective players were good at one point but for various reasons, have stalled as of late.
The same thing was said about Mueller when the Avalanche picked him up. A lot of people thought the Avs were crazy for giving up Wolski for a player that had been regressing in Mueller. Concussions aside, I’d say that is a trade that has worked out well.
Maybe the Avalanche are confident about reclamation projects.
“Is your career in the NHL slumping? Are you feeling a bit underrated and frustrated at the lack of opportunities you’re getting with your current club? Do you want to start anew? If you answered yes to any of these questions, come on out to Denver where the Avalanche will make you a superstar!”
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
must be 27 or under.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
How old was Brunette when he signed? Although he wasn’t exactly in the same boat as these guys when he came to the team.
Nope.
He turned 32 right before his first season in COL.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
man i miss him sometimes
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
(legal disclaimer: must be 27 or under and have a propensity for injuries)
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
New national holiday for Avs fans
Freedom From Scott Hannan Day. Out Freaking Standing. They’re gonna love him in Washington.
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:16 AM MST reply actions
I was at least expecting all caps.
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by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
I’m terribly disappointed by the lack of exclamation marks.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
that’s it?!
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Did you wear yourself out with all the cheering and jumping and waving of arms?? Cuz this is such a let down.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry
Had a root canal yesterday, up real late wracked with pain, in a Percocet fog…so I can’t really muster a whole lot more than that.
I have had a goofy grin on my face all day, though, if that helps any.
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
So in aggregate:
Bournival
Cohen
Hannan
for
RoB
Hunwick
Flash
pretty clear that we want young mid 20s guys, hm?
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
I’m still scratching my head over the Cohen for Hunwick trade, even if it was to bring salary aboard to make this trade work. I get the feeling that the Avs will be kicking themselves for that trade more than Boychuk for Hendricks.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Me too. I feel good about the Hannan-Fleischmann trade, but the Cohen-Hunwick one makes me nervous still. I hope I’m wrong about Hunwick. I really do.
(Does anyone else picture a Harry Potter movie when saying/reading “Hunwick”?)
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve already been planning to call him Hedgewick
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
ME TOO DDC
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
awesome!
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
We really need to stop questioning Sacco and Sherman
They clearly know what they are doing. They pulled a trade to get Hunwick, a player they wanted, while at the same time arranging to pick up a good LW that many other teams were likely trying for. Hunwick and Flash were both likely going to be dealt in March, we just got them earlier.
Regardless of the outcome, well done Avalanche management.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
by c6hor8 on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 AM MST reply actions 3 recs
Least we got something for Hannan before he walked as an UFA
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
True. Though, if it was more or less a foregone conclusion that the Avs didn’t want Hannan back next year, then even the chance that they will want Flash back is something of a win, yeah?
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Sure. and I actually think that unless he sucks balls he will be back. I just think the “at least we didn’t let him walk for nothing” argument needs a few months to gel.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
Fair enough, it was a lighthearted comment on my part to begin with. I’m just bitter from the laundry list of UFAs we’ve let walk for nothing in the past. Glad we did something this go-around.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
i think the Av’s want Flash pretty badly. Word is they’ve been chasing him since last August, over a year, so they seem committed to having him as an integral piece of this team. Of course if his play is abysmal he wont come back, but there intention seems to be adding him for good. Important to note also, since they’ve been going after him so long, I dont think this says anything about Muellers status as some have suggested, they’ve been trying to pull the trigger on this long before the Mueller deal even happened
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
This needs to be rec’d. Seriously.
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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I’m actually shoked management did anything. I figured they would just pull players up from LE and roll with it.
I am a Caps fan too, and Semin has been raked over the coals time and time again for his disappearing acts. He has been a monster this year – I can’t remember how many hat tricks he has had already this season. Anyway, I am going to trust that Fleishman at LW is going to work, and so will Hunwick.
What I would love for the Avs to find is Adam Foote circa 1996. Now THAT would be something we would probably all cheer about.
The injuries are killing the Avs and I am glad management didn’t just sit back and do nothing.
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I disagree pretty strongly. Boston HAD to move someone. With the pending returns of Savard and Sturm, they were going over the cap. Sherman could have called and offered used jocks for Hunwick and Chiarelli would have to listen. Maybe the Avs’ coaching staff saw something in Cohen that they didn’t like, but as of training camp, he was a top D prospect. Trading guys like that is dumb. Just ask Pierre Lacroix, who spent every year after ‘99 chasing Robyn Regehr’s replacement and shitting all over the roster in the process.
This team was shaping up to have a studly young defense and instead they’ve traded one top prospect and another decent one (Bournival) for two players who were spending many nights in the press box. O’Byrne, by all acccounts, was hanging onto the NHL by his fingernails. Fleischmann was a healthy scratch recently and has been a trading chip all year long as a spare part on the Caps’ roster.
I look at these moves and shake my head. Maybe the Avs’ front office sees something that nobody else does, but trading two top prospects when you’re a young team for two mediocre 20-somethings is, at least on paper, a dumb move.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
Though BOS was certainly not dealing from a position of strength, I’ll remain ambivalent on the Hunwick / Cohen trade for now. The true test of a trade is not what the guy was doing in his prior organization, but how he does on the team on which he ends up. I liked Cohen’s fire when he was up and was intrigued by the booming shot from the point, that I’ll admit I didn’t really see (though he didn’t have much of a chance to show it either). Some of Cohen’s commentary after the trade seemed kind of bush league to me (why rip on EDM when you’re going to BOS?) and we see clearly that Kirk is a full on pimp, so I wonder how good Cohen is in Kirk’s absence. I’ll admit that I know nothing of Kirk.
I like the Fleischmann / Hannan trade – a lot. It helps clear the defensive logjam and gets us a desperately needed top 6 winger who will now be playing his natural position. In exchange, we give up our most overpaid defenseman, who, although positionally sound this year, has been a frakking disaster for 2 of the 3 full seasons that he was here and still looks like a kid with his hand in the cookie jar every time he gets the puck. Holos, though not perfect, has, IMO played at least as soundly positionally and although he doesn’t hit any more than Hannan, doesn’t look terrified every time the puck comes near him. Quincey, if his improvement since return from injury continues and progression toward BMF status continues, would be an even more welcome replacement for Hannan – at a fraction of the cost.
Though O’Byrne was roundly despised by the denziens of Belle Centre (pun intended), he’s played quite well since his arrival and has given Liles that stay at home safety blanket to allow Hotpocket to bring out his inner Orr. Me likey! I will, for one, take the opinions of the cognocenti of La Belle Province with a grain of salt. Patrick Roy and Jaroslav Halak might tend to agree with me. Bournival is playing very well in the Q, but it is entirely possible that the kid, though a dedicated, feisty winger with a (at least in the Q) scoring touch is small enough (sub 6’) not to be able to make the leap to the big show. Time will tell, but RoB in exchange for a 3rd is looking pretty good. Not nearly as good as Winnik for a 4th, but…
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
All fair points. The Hannan/Flash trade makes sense from both sides. I thought Quincey for Flash might have made more sense for both teams, but whatever. I think much of the frustration with Hannan is in his performance relative to his contract. If he were making $1m less per year, I don’t think he’d attract so much opprobrium. I will say, he doesn’t look great with the puck – he looks like a defenseman who grew up in the trap-happy early 00’s. Dump it in, chip it out.
The Bournival for O’Byrne trade is . . . interesting. I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone in MTL thinks – they’d boo Gretzky if he had a two-point night. Still, the guy could barely crack the top-6 there. He was a spare part. Bournival’s scoring should be taken with a grain of salt – it’s the Q after all.
Hunwick/Cohen is the one that really sticks with me. As pimp as Kirk has been, two pimps is better than one.
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I agree. That’s the one I’m most concerned about. I’m thinking that this won’t turn out any worse than the Williams/Fahey or Boychuk / Hendricks trades. I like Cohen’s potential a lot, but he still has a very long way to go.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
I think the money plus the expectation of Hannan was why many fans didn’t like his play in Col. We all hoped to get the Hannan that smothered Forsberg in the 2002 playoffs. The lockout changed the defensive game and, in my opinion, Hannan’s strengths.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
now if only they would start considering it “interference” when a puck is dumped in and the D try to “mirror” the direction the opposing forward is skating to slow them down. How many times have the Avs been slowed up at the line because some D put an arm out or zig zagged for a few seconds to somewhat get in the forwards way without making contact?!? I wish the Avs would dump the puck and just barrel over anyone who decides they are going to try to slow them down by mirroring their skating direction for 5 seconds (allowing the other D or teammate time to get back and get the puck out).
2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing
So I'm Thinking...
…what does this trade have to do with yesterday’s trade? This deal could have gone off without us getting Hunwick, we still have 6 healthy Dmen and could easily have recalled Holøs. So I wonder if the Hunwick deal was also intended to send a message to Quincey/Wilson (Cumiskey is toast) about upping their play? Or is there ANOTHER deal in the works? Or do I just need to have a mental STFU?
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010!
by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 11:24 AM MST reply actions
Foote just lost his closest competitor for the slowest skating D on the roster.
Who ever will take Hannans place will greatly improve our speed on defense. The Avs are being tagged as the fastest team in the league, and it’s not really a bad way to build a winning team.
This could be awesome….
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 AM MST reply actions
TWSS
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010!
by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Ha
Are you saying I’m in for a disappointment?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Just the opposite!
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010!
by niwotsblessing on Nov 30, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Big… words!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Nice one.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Hannan was bad
Everyone complained about him year after year. Be glad he’s gone.
I trust in this management. They’ve had a knack for finding players that haven’t reached their potential, and getting them to that potential when they reach the Avs. I want to see what this guy can do with a center like Duchene.
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Say what you will about Sacco, he seems to have a knack for getting the most out of his players. Stewie’s send down and, one year later, Liles doghouse stint have paid big dividends. Maybe management understands not just what we need as a team, but where Sacco’s value lies in getting the most value out of young players.
"I just had a chicken finger and it was terrific." Gary Bettman
by Rapierwhitt on Nov 30, 2010 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
This is a great point...
And I must say, I think I might be falling in love with The Ol’ Sack. I think he’s definitely earning a STRONG look for the Jack Adams again this year with all the injuries he’s facing (as usual) but also with these players management is handing him who are supposed to be underperforming.
"Okay, here's the deal, there's a difference between 'confident' and 'cocky'. For example, I'm confident enough to tell a girl that I'm the only guy she'll ever need, but I'm nowhere near cocky enough to quote myself." - Me
I love how no media is acknowledging all the injuries.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
Media attention is the most overrated thing ever.
Fans constantly crave it, notice it, point out when it’s not there, etc etc. They don’t need to talk about him or us for us to know he’s doing a great job and what we’ve already accomplished with this clusterfuck of health failures is respectable, at worst.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Is he expected to play tonight?!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 AM MST reply actions
He’ll play tonight. (e4)
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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Deal went down...
around 12pm ET Avs game isn’t till 10pm he should be set for game time.
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by SportsDalaiLama on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 AM MST reply actions
**Matt Hunwick will play tonight, by the way. And I’m told Fleischmann may play, but there are travel issues, etc., that could prevent that. We’ll see.
PER DATER
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:36 AM MST reply actions
Come on, give him a Subaru and he’ll be in Denver soon.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
That would be Suba Cool!
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
and good for the environment
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Yesterday they were saying Hunwick wouldn’t play yet and I thought that was strange. This makes sense.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
This can’t be good for Mueller……
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 11:44 AM MST reply actions
Your 2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: What's Luck Got to do with it?
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 30, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
I am not so sure
Maybe when he comes back there is a logjam, but I wonder if Hejduk retires after this season.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Exactly. People keep bringing up his pending retirement, but he’s playing some great hockey right now. Unless he gets seriously injured, I don’t see him going anywhere for a couple years.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
All depends on his knee and back. There is still a long season ahead of him. Remember he didn’t play a lot during the preseason because of his back….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
on the flip side
let’s say he IS ok, and everyone is magically healthy!
Jones – Stastny – Stewie
Mueller – Duchene – Hejduk
Flash – RoR – Gali
McLeod – Porter – Yip
can i get a hell yeah?
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Winnick in place of Yip I guess
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
Definitely Winnik in place of Yip.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
oh shit i forgot Winnik. geez.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
No worries. With all the injuries and names floating around, it’s easy to let a guy slip through the cracks. The idea of a lineup without Dupuis, Mauldin seems criminal with the way they’ve played.
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
well, it’s all academic anyways. by the time gali and stewie are back, jones or hejduk will be hurt. it’s a never ending cycle.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
by thedoctor on Nov 30, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Winnik in place of McLeod, Mauldin in place of Yip.
Yip and Dupuis eating nachos and making sure that Porter & Mauldin don’t get to comfy.
Koci to Tulsa.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Yeah, tough break for Yipper, but them’s the breaks.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
Well how do you expect him to be? What with his mandatory penalty box time of 4 minutes every first period. It’s hard to get going like that.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
Don’t think Jones would end up on the RoR line, based on previous chemistry?
Colorado Avalanche: PROMOTING itchy playoff beards since '10
by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Nov 30, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
That gets tough with Mueller healthy. It’s a much easier puzzle otherwise.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
Why do I read the comments on the tsn page
Hannan was a fantastic penalty killer for the Leafs in the late 80’s alongside Dave Reid…. hopefully this will rekindle the fire, as he’s been pretty invisible since then. Report this comment!
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
did you report it?
two Icehouse 24 oz beers = $3.20 two "fancy" Bud Light 24 oz beers = $5.00
NOW who comes out on top?
by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Were they trying to be funny and talking about (former Av) Dave Hannan?
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Nov 30, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Of course he’s been invisible, he left the Eastern Conference.
"Who?" -Joe Sacco’s post-game answer to how Todd Bertuzzi looks as a player these days.
by StiflersMom on Nov 30, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
So true. Rec’d.
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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 30, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
if they’re not on washington or pittsburgh then it’s not news.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 30, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Best of Facebook:
“I still wanna see liles gone!!”
“yeah lets just get rid of our best d man for another forward we dont need”
“Why are people so down on Cumiskey? He might not have a spot on the team anymore thanks to Shaty stepping up, but he is still a good player who deserves respect.”
“First people are saying they want to trade liles? then youre saying you want to trade cumiskey and quincy? you must be a canucks fan or something…”
“The people bagging on Quincey are absolute idiots. I guarantee the Red Wings would love to have him back if they had a spot for him. Dude had 29 points was a +9 last season and he’s not even a offensive/puck moving defenseman like Liles/Shattenkirk. Cumiskey could be on the same level as Liles/Shattenkirk but he’s still developing – he needs to learn to use his speed more than he has.”
“They should pick up suaray from Edmonton .”
“Good move I think… I like Hannen ( and my daughter thought he was dreamy lol) but I think this will be good for the team…”
Well, I bet his daughter is not a looker.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
by c6hor8 on Nov 30, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO
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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
So, looks like no jokes starting with “A Hejduk a Hunwick and a Hannan walk into a bar …”
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
"yeah lets just get rid of our best d man for another forward we dont need"
which Avs team are they watching?
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Apparently one where Cumiskey and Quincey don’t blow it big time.
by xskatebakerrx on Nov 30, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
So, is Beachie working on an article for this guy
A “press the Fleisch” so to speak?
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
I’m trying, but work and all. =) I will have it up by tonight.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
you know what goes here
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
I will have it up by tonight.
you know what goes here
Sheesh! Get a room!
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Ha, glad I'm not the only one that went there!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
And lots less fun….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
I think you just became part of your own TWSS joke
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
I’ll take TWSS for $1000
"I just had a chicken finger and it was terrific." Gary Bettman
by Rapierwhitt on Nov 30, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
Boy you pay a lot for your mini golf rounds….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
Re: Facebook Reaction – I like how everyone sees ‘Centre’ under Flash’s position listing and all the sudden its ZOMG WE HVE TOO BAZILLION CENTRES’ maybe do a little research to see where he played while with the Caps before spouting off shit that we don’t need more centres
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This also makes no sense
Colorado Avalanche The Avalanche has acquired forward Tomas Fleischmann from the Washington Capitals in exchange for defenseman Scott Hannan.
‘has’..really Avs?
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Yes
The Avalanche is an organization, so it has acquired him.
Of course, could go the other way, too.
More Trades, Please.
‘has’ would make more sense if it was ‘Colorado has acquired..’ saying ‘Avalanche has acquired..’ just sound wrong to me
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And avalanche, as a noun, is singular.
But as a bit of a grumpy grammar Nazi, I absolutely see your point.
More Trades, Please.
Have not!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
has too!
"I just had a chicken finger and it was terrific." Gary Bettman
by Rapierwhitt on Nov 30, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
DDC, he's picking on me!!!!
;)
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
:)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
so, Sandie harassment is sanctioned around here?
"I just had a chicken finger and it was terrific." Gary Bettman
Yup, I even have a badge!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
ooh, can I see?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Scandalous!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
Happens frequently enough on here. In fact, I’ve used it to get help for essays! ;)
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
I’d rather debate grammar then how many times I can put Wolski, Svatos and Hemsky in the same sentence when comparing them to Fleishman
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Well, as I don’t know shit about hockey beyond cupcakes, mini-golf, sandwich punching, and Lord Howard, I have to talk about something.
More Trades, Please.
Ah yes, I forgot, but he invented hockey first and hates when people bring up golf when people are still playing his sport.
I can’t believe you guys are debating grammar on a hockey website and Beachie isn’t involved.
Fixed.
Although since she isn’t teaching anymore she might be losing her “English teacher” mentality.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Nov 30, 2010 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
I was busy writing that Checking Out article. Sheesh. See below.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
“Avalanche” is a team. Team’s are treated as singular entities. Has is the correct verb tense. Sorry!
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
That and it’s fluid. What was incorrect 50 years ago is a pass now. It’s all relative.
Bitch, give me your lunch money.
by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 30, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
BTW, I’m still pissed at Chicago (Manual of Style, the English language gatekeepers) for getting rid of the subjunctive case a few years ago. Bastards. Now they are screwing around with not small-capping A.M. and P.M. They must be stopped.
Seriously. They’ve gone pinko since my UofC days.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Also dropping the comma before and in a list. Pisses me off to no end.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Who is the jackhole
who decided that one space after a period is better than two? Imo, it makes things less readable.
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by Bob in Boulder on Dec 1, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
Font designers. Two spaces creates issues when you get into thing like line justification. And, good font designers use something called “kerning pairs” to make up for it. Kerning pairs are special rules used for every occurrence of pairs of characters, like the pair “[period][space]”. In that case, the kerning pair rule adds a little space there to make the font more readable. Two problems:
1. Bad font designers who don’t know or don’t care to use the tools available.
2. Bad software (not that I’m talking about any Microsoft products here) that ignores the tool.
I agree, and I have noticed that that happens around here lately too. Was it always this way? Because, yeah, it makes it less readable. Two spaces leaves a natural pause when reading, one space make it read like Stephen Wright.
Hockey- goddamn it's cool.
I will always try my best to leave two spaces after I end a sentence before starting another. Unless I’m drunk, then I apologize for nothing. I agree that a single space makes things not nearly as readable.
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
They were thinking about naming the whole place after Milton Friedman just last year actually.
by MalachiConstant on Nov 30, 2010 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Just to be super picky, the issue was not with the tense, rather with the conjugation of the verb in question….
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
Right.
con·ju·ga·tion
/ˌkɒndʒəˈgeɪʃən/
–noun
1.
Grammar .
a.
the inflection of verbs.
b.
the whole set of inflected forms of a verb or the recital or display thereof in a fixed order: The conjugation of the Latin verb amo begins amō, amas, amat.
c.
a class of verbs having similar sets of inflected forms: the Latin second conjugation.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: pretty good at hockey since they can't get into the bars yet.
I'm okay with this.
At least now the people in my head can stop running in frantic circles trying to figure out what’s going on and focus on this test I have tomorrow and seven-page paper I have due Thursday. Let’s hope the Avs make the most of him eh?
Shattencup
So, do any flights leave DC and get here before the game?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 30, 2010 12:23 PM MST reply actions
all I know is that Flight 22 is off to Honolulu
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
(crickets)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Pierre Lebrun saying: “that talks between Caps and Avs regarding this deal began last August.”
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:52 PM MST reply actions
i guess we finally got the guy we want?
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
Rumour is he is going to wear #14 :(
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:05 PM MST reply actions
Let the hate wash over you.
:)
And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.
I hope you are mistaken, about a great many things
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
that’s how he’s listed on the Avs site
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t like it…. I know, I’m grumpy and hard-headed, but that’s Lappys # to me!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
not sure I love it either.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
I’m actually a little bit angry about it… and even if he were to become a player I loved, I couldn’t buy his jersey with a #14.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong thing to say.
Lord Howard, Thy Holy Osgood, and Todd Bertuzzi --The Trinity of douche bags.
by SportsDalaiLama on Nov 30, 2010 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Very wrong thing to say!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
he stole it from dave hannan.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 30, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
I have a #14 old-school third jersey with my name on it.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I still like you.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 6:57 PM MST up reply actions
One other little upside here. Hannan gets to play in a Winter Classic, good for him
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 1:09 PM MST reply actions
Hell yeah
I cant wait to watch that 24/7 series about the game.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 30, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
I cant wait to watch that 24/7 series aboutthe gameCrosby and Ovechkin.
Fixed.
More Trades, Please.
I cant wait to watch that 24/7 series about the game mostly Crosbyandwith a little Ovechkin
It's all about the A-nderson
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 30, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
You honestly think HBO is going to cut pure Ovechkin gold in favor of flavorless Crosby footage?
“Here’s Ovechkin hitting on two college cheerleaders at the local dive bar.”
“Here’s Crosby watching a rerun of Scrubs.”
"I don’t know what happened," said Kyle Brodziak, who scored two goals and tried to spark his team by fighting Chris Stewart. Stewart hit Brodziak so hard and so often, the Avs’ leading goal scorer broke his left hand.
I have HBO on Demand, I’ll take a look…
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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 30, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
I'm so sick of Crosby
it makes me want to actively go out of my way to not watch the winter classic this year
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
mwuahaha
Yeah I don’t really care about either Crosby or Ovechkin. Yes they’re extremely talented, but they aren’t the saviours of the NHL. Bettman should know better. That’s Lord Howard.
Fuck you Mr. Potatohead
Meh. What’s his record against Colorado? I think they held him scoreless in 2008, after all. Even Arnason could’ve scored against Colorado in 2008, if Colo. hadn’t been employing him at the time.
fwiw
I think Dater summed up Hannan perfectly today
As I wrote over the summer in a final report card on Hannan, it’s not like the guy was ever a terrible player. He was uber-durable, never whined about anything and always seemed to give a good effort out there.
But we were always left with the feeling of "Is this all there is?" for a guy who signed a four-year, $18 million contract in 2007. He was supposed to be a nasty, in-your-face D-man who rocked people all over his own end.
Instead, what we often saw was just a kind of quiet, stay-at-home guy who didn’t create big ruffles anywhere. We always were waiting for that pain-in-the-neck kind of guy, like he was to Peter Forsberg in the 2004 playoffs for San Jose. But it never seemed to come. He seemed more like your basic ham-and-egger type of player, but with a filet mignon contract.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Nov 30, 2010 2:51 PM MST reply actions
WWRWDD.
That is how i am living my life from now on.
Jimmy Howard invented the All-Star Game, yet he's not on the ballot.
chortle
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