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Game 59 Recap: Avalanche 4 - Thrashers 3 (OT)

Mission accomplished.

The Avalanche needed a point tonight to move into first in the NW Division. They didn't play like it. As per the norm, the Avs appeared to play down to their opponent. After 40 minutes, the Thrashers had a small lead on the scoreboard (2-1), a modest lead in the shots category (27-18) and a sizeable lead in the effort category. And when Nik Antroprov buried an ugly clearing attempt by Craig Anderson to make it 3-1, it was looking like first place wasn't going to happen on this evening.

But this club absolutely refuses to die. The Avs have really only been completely out of it in two games this year - the 6-1 loss to Washington and the 8-2 loss to Vancouver. In every other loss this year, the Avalanche have been no worse than 2-goals behind with 10 minutes or so to go. To me, that's been one of the most amazing aspects of the team this year - no matter what happens, the Avalanche find a way to crawl back in it. Sure, they can look terrible trying to hold a lead, but they look absolutely marvelous when trying to erase a deficit.

Down 3-1 early in the 3rd period, the Avalanche had two options. Continue to mail it in, or put the pedal to the metal. They chose option B. The Avalanche began to swarm, dominating the play the rest of the way. The tragically sparse crowd of 11,644 started to get energized. Chris Stewart was up first, stuffing his rebound around Atlanta's Johan Hedberg to cut the lead to 3-2. They kept on coming. With just under 6 minutes left, Chris Durno scored the biggest goal of his NHL career, sweeping the puck in as he dove to the ice. It was a controversial goal: Atlanta claimed that Cody McLeod knocked Quincey's point shot down with a high stick. They probably had a case, but that still was a hell of a goal by Durno. It would have been the highlight of the game for sure...

...had it not been for Kyle Cumiskey. With the game going to overtime, the Avalanche officially moved into 1st. But the Avs weren't done. More properly: Kyle Cumiskey wasn't done. Cumiskey grabbed the puck on the opening faceoff and carried it into the zone, maneuvering through four Thrashers like a hot knife through butter. He gained speed as he went, and finished it off with a blast past Hedberg. Just 9 seconds into OT, the Avalanche had a huge, huge win.

They only played hard for the final 10 or 15 minutes and Atlanta probably deserved the win tonight. But the Cardiac Kids pulled the rabbit out of the hat yet again. Welcome back to the top of the division boys. Congratulations. You've earned...er, done it. Again.

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Mission accomplished is right!

The Thrash deserved the point they got. We played like shit for the majority of the game but like you said, more often then not we refuse to die!

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 PM MST reply actions  

Oh Empress of the photochops,

would you grace us with a Roadrunner chopped with a unipron on him?

That, madam, would rock!

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 10, 2010 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m going to have to be the critic. No coyote head on the goalie?

Seriously funny though.

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:49 AM MST up reply actions  

I did look for a coyote head but I couldn’t find one at a good angle. But thanks! I enjoy messing around with photochop.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 12:58 AM MST up reply actions  

We enjoy your messing around, or I do at least.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 1:01 AM MST up reply actions  

my kids loved it

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 11, 2010 5:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I can’t see it, darn work! I now have to wait another 6 hours to see it :-(

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by Americanario on Feb 11, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

i’m in the same boat. = (

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Try here

I uploaded it on imageshack, might get through the firewall:

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

nah, our place blocks everything. = (

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

This is full of win!

I especially love the steam/smoke coming off RR’s skates!

Thanks!

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 11, 2010 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Ha! this made my screensaver. Thanks!

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by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

GL just emailed me the pic…AWESOME!!!!! Canary, I’ll email it to you!

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

FYI

Photobucket seems to have removed the image. or at least, its no longer visible to me.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 12, 2010 4:28 PM MST up reply actions  

have you seen my fanshot about duchene’s FB page? if not, go look. NOW.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

The Avs were playing so bad in

the second, I almost feel asleep on my couch! Glad I stayed awake for the 3rd and OT!! The team can’t dwell too much on this game though. They have 2 RED hot teams coming to town on Friday and Saturday in Phoenix and LA. Another effort like the one in the first 50 or so minutes and we are going to only have a short glimpse of 3rd place in the West.

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by Derek B on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 PM MST reply actions  

I fell asleep during the second as well!

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 10, 2010 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Only very good teams can pull off wins like these. I remember watching a Sharks game last year where they played awful for the first 50 minutes, turned it on for the last ten and scored three goals to win the game. Just more evidence that this team is no joke.

by Dustin Burfiend on Feb 10, 2010 10:33 PM MST reply actions  

that is almost precisely what i said to lowayne after the game

good teams find a way even on bad nights, and that’s exactly what the Avs did tonight. they dug deep and found enough for the win.

Cumiskey in particular had a really pretty bad night, but shrugged it right off and had the confidence and poise to make a truly highlight reel game winner. mad props.

by thedoctor on Feb 10, 2010 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

yep

haven’t seen an Avs team do this since the Sakic and healthy Forsberg glory days

by creamy on Feb 11, 2010 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice game, after the first 40-50 minutes.

Road Runner was just sick on that goal. The Atlanta defenders kept waiting for someone else to pick him up and he just kept going. MEEP MEEP!

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by Americanario on Feb 10, 2010 10:33 PM MST reply actions  

Completely Random Observations

So that’s what Hedberg was freaking out about? No one sitting near me could figure it out. He was PISSED at that Durno goal and it confused the hell out of me. The waved off Atlanta goal looked pretty clearly not to go over the line from where I was sitting, but I haven’t watched a replay. The crowd was pitiful, but the effort was worse until the 3rd Thrasher goal. Once they started playing they played really well, I just wish they wouldn’t wait until they were down 2 goals to start playing.

by sprdelfin on Feb 10, 2010 10:34 PM MST reply actions  

He thought McLeod tipped the puck from too high. Had the puck gone in straight from the tip he may have been above the crossbar. It didn’t, it wasn’t.

You know who had just a god-awful game. #4 Wes McCauley. He had a terrible game as referee (at least from my vantage point.) not only did he have calls that I just thought were awful, but he kept doing little things that let the players know that HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS GAME.

God I hate referee’s on power trips.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

100% agreed. 2 nights in a row with bad officiating. last one we were the beneficiary, this one we were the screwed ones.

it really contributed to a choppy game tonight. not a great one to watch.

by thedoctor on Feb 10, 2010 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought the game was really exciting. Other than the 2nd i thought it was well played.

But really good seats make any game more exciting. In contrast, i thought Monday’s game was boring.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions  

i thought they were both pretty average.

by thedoctor on Feb 10, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

NHL on the Fly really talking up the “resilience” of this young team that “shouldn’t be able to come back like this”.

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by Americanario on Feb 10, 2010 10:35 PM MST reply actions  

shouldn’t be able to come back like this

My first reaction to that is, “When are they going to start believing this team is for real??” Then I remember that the team gets this attitude when people dismiss them like that, they get that chip on their shoulders and say, “Watch this, fuckers!” and go out to prove everyone wrong.

So keep doubting, critics. Keep thinking the Avs aren’t supposed to win. Please. Because they’re going to kick the shit out of everyone when you do.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Does anybody else think Peter Ruttgaizer needs to quit using French pronunciations for things?

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by TheRed on Feb 10, 2010 10:59 PM MST reply actions  

General game observations;

For the first 50 minutes of this game, I swore that I was watching Budaj in the Granato / Cloutier shooting gallery. That was some seriously half assed bullshit. In truth, it aspired to half assed, quarter assed might be more accurate.

Footer – thank you very, very much, Mr. backup goaltender! It pretty much makes up for that abjectly terrible play on the ATL first goal. I mean, giving up the blueline like it wasn’t yours, failing to play the man even though you had defensive support and then dropping on the shot so ineffectively as to achieve only one thing – goaltender interference. It was such a piss poor display that I was sure that it was Clark. Really.

Clark – Nice aggression in the offensive zone. Made you look good. Let’s just hope that the scouts and GMs paying attention didn’t notice you behind your own blueline (or on the PP point BTW, what the fuck?), ’cause, well, yeah, not so much.

Durno – Thanks for being one of the few to actually play like you cared for the whole game. It paid off. In spades!

Dutchy, Yip, Wilson – Skated for most (certainly not all) of the game like you gave a shit. Thanks.

Roadrunner – WOW!! Also noticed you frequently on the PK. I thought you acquitted yourself well.

Haydar – Note for the future, pulling your Tucker impersonation (falling down behind the net when the puck comes near you) is not the way to stick with the big club. Unless, of course, you have pictures of PL with a goat like Darcy does.

Svatos – You know you’re auditioning for a job, right? I don’t remember seeing you as weak on the puck as you were tonight – and that’s saying something!

Stewie – See what happens when you get your nose dirty? Good things happen! They don’t all need to be pretty, they just need to count!

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 10, 2010 11:02 PM MST reply actions  

I said the same thing about Stewies goal. We don’t crash the crease often which I personally like because nothing makes me madder than guys chopping away at Andy who’s got the puck covered, but we have to at least be near there to catch rebounds.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I love me some Foote (my favorite all time player) but that was a bad, bad play.

Svatos played last night?

by Dario on Feb 11, 2010 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Wait, what?
Stewie – See what happens when you get your nose dirty? Good things happen! They don’t all need to be pretty, they just need to count!

Why are you calling out Stewart, who does this pretty regularly, and not Wolski, who is allergic to the goal mouth?

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I concur with this. It also seems like Cody Mac is returning to form in terms of being a pain around the net, which the team really needs.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah the last ten games or so I’ve noticed him, and it’s been nice. he disappeared for a while there

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I can see how you’d read this as me calling Stewie out. Not my intent per se, but rather to commend him for going hard to the net, which he hadn’t done quite as much lately. You’re right about Wolski’s refusal to use his body, but I’m just about convinced of the fact that its a lost cause with him (using his body like he should, I mean).

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 11, 2010 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Now I understand

Agree with you about Stewart getting away from that style a bit. Thought his comment was pretty self-aware when he said he tends to play better when he plays physically. It was after the recent Gordie Howe hat trick.

And I agree with you about Wolski, too. I know he’s got a lot of talent, and hanging around the net isn’t his style, but I’m sure he’d produce more if he used that size instead of just flitting around the edges of where the action is.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

also

Haydar, sorry man, but you are not NHL material. defense is required at this level.

by thedoctor on Feb 10, 2010 11:02 PM MST reply actions  

he looked pretty good in the other end though.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 11, 2010 5:25 AM MST up reply actions  

when not falling over.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Mercier has a bad habit of falling over too. Are they letting Tucker coach practices?

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Mercier at least plays D, but his skating hasn’t looked stellar either, agreed.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

speaking of falling over

Is anybody else sort of glad Andy embellishes (read: dives) getting knocked around a bit? He was getting run rough shod early on in the season.

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I’d much rather see him stay focused and let someone else come to his defense when the other guys get too close. He’s going to get burned if he keeps doing that.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 11, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree. I don’t want him getting a rep with officials. Then he’ll never get a call for a legit interference.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Then he’ll never get a call for a legit interference.

…. so umm, does he already have this rep or something?

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe. It would explain a lot. Maybe there’s a conspiracy by the NHL!! Wears my tinfoil hat!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I see this call missed in almost every game. I think along with the effort to crack down on the hooks and holds, the league is looking the other way on stuff like goalie interference in order to not negate scoring chances.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed, but seeing as how that hasn’t exactly happened…

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

I think goalies need to do that once in awhile because crease crashing is getting ridiculous and refs obviously rarely give a crap about it. I don’t think Andy dives enough to get a rep for that, but he’s leading the league for goalies with PIMs and I actually find that hilarious and awesome. I think a goalie should totally deck someone if they’re getting to close. He’s my hero for doing that.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree. A guy should pay the price if he’s going to stand in the crease. I’m all for Andy smacking people around.

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I think it needs to be done smartly

Sometimes, I think it distracts Andy from his game. Once players know they can get under his skin, they will intentionally stand close to him and mess with him to throw him off his game and distract him. I also know that his penalties put the team on the PK and at least in the Blues game it lead to a goal. I thought the dive in this game was a stupid penalty. I don’t mind if he embellishes when he is really being interferred with, but that one was lame. I have said it before, if it is a close game, he needs just focus on stopping the puck and not taking a penalty.

The league needs to deal with the problem, and the team needs to step up to protect him.

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by hockeymom on Feb 11, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

but at least we know if avery had pulled the crap on andy he did on brodeur andy would’ve popped him in the mouth.

maybe an internet pipe froze and burst

by Uziel on Feb 11, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

and that sir

is a penalty I would have wholeheartedly supported!!

P.S. I think you are a sir.

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by hockeymom on Feb 11, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

and you are correct

maybe an internet pipe froze and burst

by Uziel on Feb 11, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

We all know that the league will not deal with the problem, ANY problem. Andy is left to his own devices, and I say he needs to channel his inner Billy Smith more often.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Nay, let Footer, Stewie and Co. handle it. Last thing we need is for Andy to get in a cheap-shot trading cycle with the Steve Ott’s of the world and get injured in game 78 of the season.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

this is one reason why i love durno so much. he is one of the first guys coming to the defense of his teammates whenever anything goes down when he’s on the ice. remember in the beginning of the season when andy would get run down and nobody did anything? since durno got called up, he’s always right there in the mix if it happens on his watch. love it.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

If they do, I agree. Still don’t mind a little Hextalling from the Goalie though.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Hextalling is a verb I whole-heartedly support.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, I don’t want to see him dive at all. Not diving is one thing that separates hockey players from soccer weenies. The inherent honesty in the game and the players (with some exceptions, of course) is one of the reasons that hockey’s the greatest sport on earth.

That interference/diving call is so weird, still can’t comprehend it. Either it’s one or the other, but how can it be both? It’s either interference or a dive. For what it’s worth, McNab thought it was a dive, too.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Also FWIW, I thought it was a total dive. There was a little contact, sure, but it was almost out of the crease and there wasn’t a shot on goal. He could have picked a better moment to embellish a fall so that he didnt get caught.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t get why it was both either. And did anyone else hear the ref say “Unfortunately, diving on ….” I mean, did he really say “unfortunately” or was I hearing things?

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

My defense of soccer embellishment

A couple weeks ago I got run into and the wind knocked out of me while playing soccer. now I could get up and stumble around trying to catch my breath, all the time my team is playing a man short. Or I could stay on the ground and catch my breath. I stayed down, it was the best thing for my team.

Also soccer has no breaks at all, so staying down after what looks like minor contact is sometimes a way to get a quick breather (and your teammates get to go to the sidelines for a quick sip of water, which they don’t get during the game at all either). There’s tangible benefit to it.

Now I’m not condoning the egregious, no one within 20 feet and falling down like you got shot (hello Christiano Ronaldo), but sometimes it’s worth a players while to stay down when they get hurt.

Case-in-point: earlier this season O’Reilly took a shot to the ankle but tried to stay up, well his inability to move caused him to be out of position on the PK, and the opponent scored a goal from it. I’m not begrudging him for trying to play through the pain, but had he stayed down on the ice I wouldn’t have begrudged him either.

That is all.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Fonzie approves of this statement.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

My only problem

is when you see a guy rolling around on the ground in complete agony when the contact looked extremely weak.

by Avalanche318 on Feb 11, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

and then they get right back up. I say go rugby style.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Jibbles where do you play soccer in town?

I’ve been looking for a league since moving here.

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I play indoor, but full-field off, of Kipling and 285.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

It wasn’t so much “diving” as it was “embellishing”, I think. You can have both an interference call and the diving call as Andy basically told the ref with his actions that he didn’t think the ref was smart enough to recognize interference and therefore embellished (badly) the infraction.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Nah, I don’t want to see him dive at all

Me neither. It’s what made me lose all respect for Hasek, who I liked for awhile before Detroit.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he’s got more of a rap for being feisty than for being a diver or an embellisher (both huge pet peeves of mine, hello “Dive Wings”!)

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Mind blown

I didn’t think the game was nearly as bad as most of you did. Until that penalty sequence in the second period the Avs were equal in shots, and I actually thought they were playing well in the first.

That said there was some sloppiness all game, and they allowed too many counter attacks, which is why Atl had what felt like better chances. But I thought the Avs controlled the puck well in the 1st and 3rd periods. I was sitting near the attacking end for those periods, and it sure felt like play spent more time near me there for all three periods.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 PM MST reply actions  

The entire defensive corps had mental mistakes tonight. Hannan and Quincey were pedestrian bottom pair material on the first goal against, Foote completely lost his mind trying to forecheck, which lead directly to the 2-on-1 and the second goal, and Hannan and Anderson’s miscue led directly to the third. I blame Andy and his new mask for that one more than Hannan though.

There just seemed to be a lack of hustle across lines last night. SoS was buzzing at times, but they weren’t the same shifts when Stewie was. Yip only appeared once or twice last night, Duchene’s feet were moving pretty much the entire game, but nothing seemed to be coming of it. O’Reilly’s entire line seemed off, but the Durno line looked good.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 8:03 AM MST up reply actions  

The Durno line DID look pretty good… It was nice to have a line that could spell the other guys for a while. If we can get all four lines working, instead of having a specialty line, maybe we can ensure our kids’ legs dont wear out too early in the game.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree. I didn’t think it was that terrible, I was surprised at how well Atlanta moved the puck, impressed that they shot from everywhere and kept Anderson on his toes. Also was impressed with Pavel Kubina – what a beast. Enstrom stood out, too, in a good way, until he overplayed the pass on Cumiskey’s winning goal. Then he stood out in a really, really bad way.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Enstrom is a stud on my fantasy team. He’s something like #6 among defensemen for points this year. Hella-good young player.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

A message from Pepsi Center lost and found

Zach Bogosian and Tobias Enstrom. Your jock straps were left on the ice after the game, immediately following the Cumiskey goal. If your items are not claimed in the next 7 days, they will be donated to goodwill. Thank you.

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by Cotts on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

HAHAHAHA

Also have the jock of one Johan Hedberg?

by Avalanche318 on Feb 11, 2010 5:31 AM MST reply actions  

Cumiskey…I shall continue to eat crow about you my friend!

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by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 5:35 AM MST reply actions  

Moser’s call is downright funny:
http://www.hostergy.com/audio/5-94613726a7.html

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Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim

by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 6:55 AM MST reply actions  

Dude, I can actually hear him crapping his pants on that one….

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 8:04 AM MST up reply actions  

After listening to that……..boy does Haynes suck. He has gone really downhill. Moser brings a lot of excitement to calling the game. Haynes seems bored all the time and behind the play at times. Like the goal that was just scored is interrupting his conversation.

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by InYoFace on Feb 11, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Listening to Moser while driving

can cause accidents.

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by hockeymom on Feb 11, 2010 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I’d believe that.

I usually have the game on a screen and I listen to the radio feed.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Feb 11, 2010 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

bwhahahaa, I love Mose!

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

HAHA

I finally got to listen to it.

That stickhandling son of a gun.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

what a pathetic crowd. i cant believe thats all that shows up when we are 1st in the division. but i did get to upgrade to on the glass seats.

i completely thought we were destined to lose this one. i was screaming for them to move during the power play in the 1st. the power play was going NOWHERE. and wow there were a ton of turnovers in the first two.
random-Haydar isnt very tall i dont know what he is listed at but he was shorter than everyone else.
oh did anyone else notice that Andy had a new mask last night? i never could tell what all was on it i didnt even notice it until the game started even i took a ton of pictures.
great to see Durno get a goal i will always root for guys like that he definatly didnt have the easy way into the league.

by Kelso22 on Feb 11, 2010 7:48 AM MST reply actions  

We were talking about the mask in the game thread last night. He appears to have kept the Yeti theme and added what seems to be a train on the left side? Never got a look at the other. Just seemed odd to be breaking in a new mask like that in the middle of the season. Maybe he isn’t superstition, but as a goalie, I would never do that.

And yes, Haydar is a midget.

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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 8:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Although at times the team may have looked like last year’s team, there is one huge difference between the two: last year’s team would have lost the game. Last’s year team would have given up when it was 1-3, and last year’s team would not have had the offensive talent to score 3 goals very often. The ability to battle back when they are down, and the ability to win even when they have 3 goals or more scored against them are two huge reasons this year’s team is successful. Hopefully DDC or whoever did the first analysis of the goals for/goals against mid-season will do that again at the end of the season, because I believe that even though the numbers were prett consistent with last year’s at mid-season, I think there will be big difference in the numbers by the end of the season.

That Foote save was HUGE, and it was the difference between winning in overtime and losing in regulation.

And that 3rd goal, Anderson owns that one. Ugly.

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by hockeymom on Feb 11, 2010 8:17 AM MST reply actions  

No…BEYOND ugly. Ugly doesn’t even correctly describe it.

The best part of it though…I was watching the highlights on NHL “On The Fly” this morning, and you could hear him clear as day yell “FUCK!” right after goal 3

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by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 8:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Best and worst

Best part of the night (tie):
-seeing Cumiskey literally boxed in by four Atlanta skaters and then splitting the two defensemen, deking Hedberg, and potting the game-winner
-seeing Durno doing his best Ovechkin for the tying goal

Worst part of the night:
-Hearing Sacco call Cumiskey “Cummers” in his post-game press conference. Seriously, I don’t care if the guy’s name is Cumsworth von Cummington-Cumiskey, you never, never, EVER call the guy Cummers. Never. Worst nickname ever.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 8:24 AM MST reply actions  

Cumsworth von Cummington

Wasn’t he on the island with Gilligan?

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Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim

by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 8:26 AM MST up reply actions  

join me Dan, in promoting the the “KFC” nickname for Cumiskey. Kyle Fucking Cumiskey > Cummer.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought we were going with RR?

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I like RR and all. Even enjoy the meep meeps. However, I will now be referring to Cumiskey as KFC with everyone in person. Because when they ask WTF I mean, I’ll get to say Kyle FUCKING Cumiskey. Can’t a guy have two good nicknames?

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

not around here. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Love it

KFC is awesome because it shows you that the guy is capable of doing awesome things on the ice, but it’s funny because he has the personality of a mouse off the ice. As Dater said, his interview after the game with KFC was his excited persona, and he barely registered a pulse.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

he may have the personality of a mouse, but look at that smile! he always has this smile on his face after big or crazy goals that is just priceless. It’s like a kid who just scored his first goal in pee-wees. I love it.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I like this nickname, and also road runner. i think KFC is more appropriate for moments like the GWG last night though.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

i don’t like KFC…cuz I don’t like KFC, the fast food. Makes my stomach hurt and I get all grossed out by how greasy and nasty it is.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

He really called him “cummers”? Good lord that’s awful!

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

That is what the team calls him. I’ve heard it used a number of times by guys in interviews and such.

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by Americanario on Feb 11, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Even so

It doesnt make me any happier about the nickname…

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

How do they pronounce that? I mean, you would really think that they would understand there is no way to get around that. insert all the dirty jokes you can about what his beautiful plays make you do…

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

…they pronounce exactly the way you think they do.

My question is, how do they break it to the new guys?

ADAM FOOTE: Hey, Nik, welcome to the team, we’re glad you’re with us for the playoff run, we think you can help us alot. Let me introduce you around the room, you probably already know a few of the guys…Rusty, Hanner, Gally, Willie, Cummers, Hot Pocket, Tucks -

NIK ANTROPOV: Uhhh…wait, what?

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

but… we’d have antropov and i’d be happy

maybe an internet pipe froze and burst

by Uziel on Feb 11, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

just the way you think it is pronounced

my bet is they did it on purpose. sort of a hazing thing and it stuck.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Why don’t they use Coomi or Coomers?

by Avalanche318 on Feb 11, 2010 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Because its not nearly as funny

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Upon reflection, tongue must be firmly in cheek.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 8:56 PM MST up reply actions  

speaking of...

i was bored and did another photoshop, reversing it up from skater’s…i’m not nearly as good at that shit as her tho. i’m the vid girl.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 9:19 PM MST up reply actions  

-Hearing Sacco call Cumiskey "Cummers" in his post-game press conference. Seriously, I don’t care if the guy’s name is Cumsworth von Cummington-Cumiskey, you never, never, EVER call the guy Cummers. Never. Worst nickname ever.

Agree x 1000

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Stastny called him Cummers this morning

During an interview on 1600. I’m afraid it’s the team’s nick for him. Maybe he hates it as much as the guy here at work who I nicknamed “T-Bag?”

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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Gotta be

I mean, a lot of times nicknames are ones that stick even though people hate them.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Stupid Mike.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Stupid Funny Mike.

Fixed

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d!

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re all jerks.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Huh. Wonder why? ;)

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec'd

because it’s awesome

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

OMG!!

My co-workers all think I’m crazy now! thanks!

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by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

....They didn't before?

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 11, 2010 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

ZING!!

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 6:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch!!

I thought you loved me ;-(

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"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles

by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 7:13 PM MST up reply actions  

DURNO????

Talk about an all out effort on that GOAL I mean two guys diving to try to hit the puck in the net we could be saying just as much praise for Cody Mac if his stick had hit the puck great to see our Grinders putting forth as much if not more effort at times then our top forwards!!

It was an ugly first 2 1/2 periods to watch but a fun final 10 minutes 9 seconds!!!

by BryceLeo on Feb 11, 2010 8:39 AM MST reply actions  

Guys, CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!
But hey, things are looking up on the marketing front Av-aholics. I saw an actual billboard off the highway today (northbound, I-25 and 58th Ave). It had Avs players in it and everything. That’s the first Avs-related billboard I’ve seen in many years around here.

Per Dater in the newest “All About Avs” entry

WE DID IT!!!!!!

by Avalanche318 on Feb 11, 2010 8:45 AM MST reply actions  

Also, was it just me...

or was the music selection at the Can quite a bit different than usual last night?

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

I won’t believe it until I see photographic proof. *hint, hint *

Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.

by Rather Dashing on Feb 11, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

The was a Coors sakic billboard for awhile this fall, it said #19 will always be #1, thanks super joe, or something like that…

by Skijumper on Feb 11, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I saw that while I was in Denver for Sakic night….

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I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Feb 11, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Radar needs to finish that breakaway

When he does finish those chances, he may be one of the best penalty killers in the league.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 8:49 AM MST reply actions  

With the two short handers the other night I’m willing to give him one miss. Not even Sakic made every breakaway… wait

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Didn’t Sakic have a ridiculous streak for while there where he never missed a penalty shot? Did he ever end up missing one? Anybody happen to know how many he took / missed?

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Sakic was money in penalty shots but he was terrible in the shootout. A bizarre anomaly.

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by InYoFace on Feb 11, 2010 8:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I like this even if it's not true

Sakic never missed a penalty shot ever, in his life.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Curious now

5 for 5 in penalty shots

7 for 21 career shootout. Not as bad as I thought but not really impressive either.

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by InYoFace on Feb 11, 2010 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I could never understand Sakic in the shootouts. The man had the most wicked writers in the game, but he so so so often went to the backhand. I always equated it to Mike Martz refusing to give Marshal Faulk the ball near the goal line.

If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.

by Dixomatic on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

also, wrister instead of writers. We all know MHH has the most wicked writers.

If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.

by Dixomatic on Feb 11, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Timely correction. You can pretty close to Le Banhammer de Truthe.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah, ask wolski how having only one bad ass move worked out for him in the shootout. Gotta keep em guessing

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

The Baron had a veritable catalog of moves last year. This year? Seems like he went back to page 1 and is determined to have the move work before he moves to page 2.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah but they all involved an exaggerated move to one side when you knew he was going the other way. Poke checks are effective against most of that.

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Detroit Sucks

by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Goalies watched tape all summer on that veritable catalogue of moves, negating them. He had to go back to page 1.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

5 for 5 sounds much better as:

Every penalty shot EVER

by MalachiConstant on Feb 11, 2010 9:03 AM MST reply actions  

For some reason I thought he had more penalty shots. Stupid shootout messing with my memories.

And Jibbled.

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by InYoFace on Feb 11, 2010 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I like every penalty shot ever best. I can stand by that.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Still boggled

So I re watched the last 1/3 of the 1st period, and I still think the Avs and Thrash were pretty even the first period. Obviously the 2nd they played awful, but i don’t think the game was nearly as bad as others here.

There were some defensive miscues, but I thought the forwards did a good job of keeping possesion and cycling the puck tonight, for the most part.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:40 AM MST reply actions  

your subjective opinion is WRONG! :)

I thought the game had little flow all the way through, and the Avs should have been down 3 or more goals by the 2nd intermission if the Thrashers could hit the net. shrug

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

I concur with Jibs. They were more even in the first.

they shouldn’t have been, though. The Avs are better.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 11, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey

at least we beat a bottom tier team except for Edmonton. FINALLY

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree. 2nd sucked but the rest was ok. last part of 3rd ROCKED

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

was there anyone on the ice who wasn’t deked out of their shorts by RR? I don’t think so. That was as good or better as when federov stickhandled past 5 guys and the goal tender about 10 years ago.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 9:41 AM MST reply actions  

Fedorov was awesome.

I would have loved to see him in an Avs uniform.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 11, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

It pains me to agree,

But Federov was a pretty damn good player. Probably the only Wing besides Yzerman I had any respect for.

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by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 8:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I know it's traitorous to like a Wing

but whatever. I can’t remember a single incident in which he did anything to set me off except torching us by scoring and playing his typically awesome two-way hockey. He was fast, highly skilled, he played hard, and he dated hot chicks. I don’t hold his stint in Detroit against him. He was a damn good hockey player.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 12, 2010 1:52 AM MST up reply actions  

oh noes!

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 12, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we’re seeing more and more why number 4 is riding the pine. I just hope they can get decent value for JML in a trade. Packaging him with Svatos and a draft pick for a LWer who can put the puck in the net would be great. Anyone have ideas on who is out there?

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Patrick Sharp.

End of discussion.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Does Chicago want another offensive D-man?

I hope so.

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by c6hor8 on Feb 11, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

They probably couldn’t take JML’s contract, could they?

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

No

they won’t take JML’s contract. The whole reason Sharp will be traded is for cap relief

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

i doubt they trade Sharp, he’s home grown core-level talent. more like versteeg, barker, etc.

if they do trade Sharp the Avs should be the first in line he’s exactly what this team needs. Not so sure on Versteeg, the other name the Avs have been linked to out of Chicago. I rather like our current size up front.

Another name in the rumor mill the Avs should look at: Nathan Horton from Florida. Big, killer shot…would look very nice with Duchene and Hejduk.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope, the Hawks are looking for a Defensive D-man.

As for cap relief, I still think they do little this year. But next year, Cam Barker, Dustin Byfugline, Sharp…and I would guess Versteeg all get shipped or let go

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by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

nope that they trade sharp?

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

No, they won’t trade Sharp…not this year anyway. He was just put on a line with Kane and Toews, and they have had instant chemistry.

2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!

Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim

by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

i second that

i was really impressed with Horton when the Avs played Florida this season. He also did an interview during intermission, and seemed like a real class act. McNab said he was one of the “nicest guys in hockey,” but who hasn’t McNab said that about…

Sports don't build character, they reveal it

by Cotts on Feb 11, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Horton is uber talented and would fit in very well with this bunch. He could likely score 40 here playing with SoS or Duchene.

I think the Avs would have to give up a Renegade to get him though. And Florida, like most teams, would be looking squarely at O’Reilly.

If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.

by Dixomatic on Feb 11, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

haha, Florida might want Anderson back

Sports don't build character, they reveal it

by Cotts on Feb 11, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Can you imagine the face palm they’re doing right about now?

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Sean Avery.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

ban hammerable offense?

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

For me or McNabb? If he ever complimented Avery, he would straight up cease to exist for me. Not “dead to me”, “Never conceived to me”.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

oh, now I get it

You were responding to the “who hasn’t McNab said that about…” I thought you were suggesting the Avs should trade for Avery. We need some sort of collapsing tree thingy.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Feb 11, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not being facetious, but who could? And who would want to? Who would want to pay him $9 million for the next two seasons? Maybe he’ll pull a Hannan-esque revival out of his ass, but I’m not counting on it. But the best case scenario is that he gets out of Sacco’s doghouse and finally takes that next step in his career development. I’m not satisfied with 45 points/season (in a good year) from the guy making $4 million plus.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You know, my initial excitement and then crushing disappointment in Tucker made me remember how much I disliked Hannan last season and how much I have loved him this season.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I think there’s teams out East where Liles would be a substantial improvement over what they have. I think he’d flourish there as well.

I think the best fit for him would be the NYR, but I think a team like them, Montreal or boston would take a flier on him.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I bet all teams interested would go after Kaberle in Toronto before they looked into Liles. Similar contract, but Kaberle has 46 points already this year.

If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.

by Dixomatic on Feb 11, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions  

st. louis fans on HF wanted to swap Brad Boyes for him. I’m all over that, even if Boyes is yet another RW.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

YES PLEASE

Boyes for Liles. In a heartbeat

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah same here, even though he’s having an absolutely rotten year.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

10 Worst NHL Contracts

According to CBS (I was puzzled too). Hot Pocket is #9:

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/story/12905378/ten-worst-contracts-expensive-mistakes-linger

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

how is Liles on that list and Campbell not? Or Drury? Or Souray?

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Souray

I’d rather have Liles’ contract than Souray’s

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

that’s exactly what I’m saying.

though at this point I might trade Liles for Souray anyways, because he’d fill such a gaping hole on this team with that point shot.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

DiPietro should be on that list too

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree, Glass-hip Ricky should def. be on there.

maybe an internet pipe froze and burst

by Uziel on Feb 11, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I think they’ll be looking to unload Campbell for a cheaper option.

The only problem with my Sharp-to-Colorado musings is that the two players that make the most sense to send the other way (Svats and Liles) aren’t necessarily players Joey Q. would give a ringing endorsement.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

True, but Q LOVEs Brett Clark.

I love Sharp and all but the Avs don’t need another center, as a righty he’d be making an additional adjustment to a LW too.

If Chicago is the target I think Clark and Svats for Byfgulien or Versteeg is the better option.

by Dario on Feb 11, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Sharp plays all 3 forward positions.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s called versatility, ladies and gents. I have him tagged as a top 6 LW.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I think it’s distinctly possible they simply waive Campbell. he only has a NTC.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

or, i love this one, you trade campbell to the ranger for…wait for it…Wade Redden, and waive him instead. Rangers are probably happy to get a better player than Redden, even at a slightly higher price tag, Blackhawks save significant money in the waiving.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Campbell has actually played very well this year. Even his usual gaffe a game has been absent. His contract is still an albatross, but lately you haven’t heard his name on the defensive side of the puck, and sometimes that’s a good thing

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by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

if you’re the hawks, would you rather lose versteeg + barker + buf + god know hat else or campbell + 1 other?

campbell’s a good player, I agree, but I say they’d rather lose him for nothing than lose the rest of those guys.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

“There is no salary cap concern for the Chicago Blackhawks.”

/ Blackhawk Bob (recently acquired from Detroit)

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I see what you are saying, but the Hawks also have a deep system, and I think they are going to look to that for a year or two…knowing damn well that they can’t get rid of their two major albatrosses in Huet and Campbell.

Remember, those two guys were signed as an act of faith that management was willing to start spending on decent players. Unfortunately for the Hawks, they paid a bit (by a bit I mean WAY) too much

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Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim

by chiavsfan on Feb 11, 2010 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, the Hawks have 15 players under contract for next year. They need 22 to fill the roster, right?

So they have ~ $500k left to get 7 guys in the lineup. Deep system or not, they have to jettison ~3.5 million just to fill out the roster with minimum entry level contracts from the system. If they resign their RFA’s at the same pay rate as they make this year that number needs to be even higher. If they do a mix of new entries and RFA signings, I expect them to dump ~4MM net.

Unless I don’t know something else that is going on the Hawks have a problem next year until they dump a lot of salary.

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 11, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

it’s even more absurd than that. they’re almost 4m OVER a presumably flat cap next year with only 15 players signed. they must actually dump 7m before they can even start think about the minimum wage thing. crazy.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Plus there is talk of the cap decreasing. Chicago will need to find someone dumb enough to take Hossa just so they can start cleaning up that mess.

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe

the options i see on the table are:

1. trade 2 of buf/barker/versteeg + sopel
2. waive campbell, trade one of the above 3 (prolly barker)
3. dump huet + sopel, go with rookies in net.
4. trade sharp + some combo of the above

and then pad out the roster with minimum wagers/rookies. and all trades must only get prospects/picks back.

sucks for them to be in the spot of making hard choices on good players. good for the avs though — versteeg and sharp would be very interesting to the Avs.

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

also, they must deal with hjalmarsson and Ladd’s RFA years. Hjalmarsson would be an absolutely stellar fit here as well. and a fair offer sheet of ~3m would only give them back a 2nd. and how could they match?

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

^^ this is what I think should be done.

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 11, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d take Hossa and his contract if they were going to go that route.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

His contract is not bad now. But he’s signed for another 11 years. He’s 31 now, I only see him playing at this level for 3-4 more years. After that his contract is dead weight for the reaming 6-7 years.

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

He signed before he was 35, so if he retires before that, the contract comes off the books.

It’s a good contract, a little risky, but a risk worth taking on him IMO

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 11, 2010 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Ahhh. I had it flipped: I thought if a player signed after 35 their salary came off the books in retirement. Now that I think about it, that wouldn’t make much sense. I looked it up and you are correct.

His contract is not as bad as I had thought.

Budweiser is a lot like making love in a row boat. They're both fucking close to water.

by smoky201 on Feb 11, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I see. nhlnumbers grants a big bonus cushion but capgeek is at 0. Whatever reality is, the problem is real.

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 11, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

There wont be a bonus cushion next season as it is a CBA option year.

by NEB on Feb 11, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

so ELCs don’t offer bonus cushion? do their bonuses still count against the cap hit?

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Normally ELC’s and other bonuses can be deferred to next years cap hit. However as beyond the 2010/2011 season there may be a different CBA, you cannot defer the bonuses of next season.

by NEB on Feb 11, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder if the other owners are just going to sit back and let Chicago roast in their own stew. If Chicago can’t deal off some salary, then what happens?

If Santa comes down my chimney wearing those Red Wing colors, he's going to wish he didn't exist.

by Dixomatic on Feb 11, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

they start waiving players. you can bet this is what the teams high in waiver priority want (carolina, edmonton, etc).

by thedoctor on Feb 11, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I think we’re seeing more and more why number 4 is riding the pine

I totally agree. I said a LONG time ago, shit I think it was way back in late Oct or early Nov, after a great game by RR, that Liles had better step it up or he was going to be out of a job soon. Apparently, he didn’t listen to me.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I vote Ponikarovsky. Might actually be available.

Games are worth only 2 points, DAMMIT!!

by Busted Twigg on Feb 11, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I like his size, but he’s been inconsistent. He’s got a Svatos-like ability to be a great finisher, but doesn’t so much create his own opportunities.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I like his size, but he’s been inconsistent Russian. He’s got a Svatos-like ability to be a great finisher, but doesn’t so much create his own opportunities.

He looked pretty good last night, though. Surprised me.

by Dan Winkler on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I forgot to mention,

Anyone notice how hard Galli was hitting last night? Guys working his way to the top of my list for sure. I said during the first that I felt like I was watching the “TJ Galliardi Show.” That kid was tearing it up in every spot possible.

by xskatebakerrx on Feb 11, 2010 10:03 AM MST reply actions  

Him covering for a pinching defenseman lead directly to the Durno goal too.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 11, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Other thoughts:

Haydar was a liability out there. Ugh.

Clark had a pretty solid game. Had a nice physical game and a few good D-zone breakouts. Nice to be able to say that.

Durno goal was awesome watching 4 guys diving for the puck.

Cumiskey. Slowed down after gaining the zone then rocketed up to speed in 1 step. Wow.

Never trust the lunch lady.

by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 11, 2010 10:28 AM MST reply actions  

I think we should give Haydar the benefit of the doubt

It was his first NHL game this season and he doesn’t have much NHL experience. maybe he plays well tomrrow?

by Avalanche318 on Feb 11, 2010 11:15 AM MST reply actions  

Haydar

I will take Haydar over Svatos. Haydar at least wants to be playing with the Avs, and will be motivated to earn some playing time up with the big show. Svatos is just waiting for his ticket out of Denver, and doesn’t seem invested in the team. I’d like to see Haydar play a few games, see what he’s got.

Sports don't build character, they reveal it

by Cotts on Feb 11, 2010 11:22 AM MST reply actions  

can you blame Svats tho? I’d be waiting for my ticket and uninvested.

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

A great quote by Atlanta coach John Anderson about Roadrunner:
“I saw two defenceman not taking anybody in front of the net,” he said. “They let him walk right in. I’ve never seen that in my life before.”

Awesome.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 1:40 PM MST reply actions  

I am sure this has been covered multiple times but is there a place IN DENVER, not online, that does twill lettering? I suspect Jibbles would have found it by now if there was, huh Jibs? For whatever reason, I was under the impression there was and thus did not get my third jersey cuz I figured “I’ll get it when I’m there” like a dipshit.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 3:54 PM MST reply actions  

another way the Kings make mktg gold

(I know, I should shut up about them) is they offer in-house lettering. Buy a replica from their pro-shop. Walk down a few sections to a kiosk and get any name, any number you want in the twill lettering for $70. It’s done in 7-10 days. You can pick it up or have it shipped for an additional cost and an additional 3-5 days. Brilliant.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

On the Durno goal

Maybe the rule is different than I’m thinking it is, but the fact that McLeod touched it with a high stick shouldn’t matter. The high stick call would be negated when the goaltender touches the puck. Therefore, the boys in stripes made the right non-call.

I hate the Red Wings.

by wtnelson on Feb 11, 2010 8:38 PM MST reply actions  

Well, it was technically a missed call by the officials, but completely unreviewable. Its just like a missed penalty or sneaky handpass during regular play. About all you can legitimately do is yell at the ref to open his goddam eyes and hope that he doesnt call some crap against you next time.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Feb 11, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you're right

I think McLeod’s stick was above the crossbar, but not a “high stick” if that makes sense. In other words had he touched it down at center ice from that level the refs wouldn’t call it. (In fact the Avs had a clearing attempt and one of the Thrash knocked it straight down from about the same height). Since it hit the goalie it was fair game.

It was a great tip too.

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