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Liles Healthy Scratch again????


So what is with Liles  being a healthy scratch so much??  Is he on his way out the door?  I mean I like what we have and now both Liles and Salei are the healthy scratches it makes me wonder why does he keep getting scratched ahead of Clarke??  Is something brewing to where the AVs are wanting to make sure he doesn't get hurt?  Do we have to many Offensive Defensemen coming up next year??  Or is he part of a trade about to go down in which case why are we not showcasing him??

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question of the season, my friend. or at least this part of it anyway.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 8, 2010 3:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

To be traded to Toronto along with Svatos.

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by BraxtanFILM on Feb 8, 2010 6:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Toronto is on Liles’ list.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 8, 2010 6:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think riding the pine is on his list, either.

www.returnoftheghostbusters.com

by BraxtanFILM on Feb 8, 2010 7:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

The coaches aren’t too happy with his two-way effort in recent games. He’s doing well on the PP and offensively, but they’re trying to send a message that he needs to up his effort defensively.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 9, 2010 6:28 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting comment…considering he’s only been on the ice for one goal against in the past 10 days as opposed to the top D line who’s been on ice for 7. But who’s counting?

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 9, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Perhaps he should be judged on a longer period of time than ten days, especially when he’s only played twice in those ten days due to being scratched.

He has 8 points in 9 games in the past month, 6 on the PP.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 9, 2010 6:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I went by ten days because he had been on the ice a week between his first scratch stint and his second scratch stint plus the three days (plus or minus) since then. So that stat really represents the games in that time frame, thus making me question why he was benched again.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 9, 2010 11:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they think Andy’s bailed him out of situations that shouldn’t have happened?

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

Detroit Sucks

by TheRed on Feb 9, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered about this too and searched for any info I could find on stats kept regarding # of shots on net per player on ice (did that sentence make any sense? sporting a migraine right now…). Kind of a specific stat and it’s not out there that I can find. Kind of like the elusive “from where are the shots being taken” stat.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 9, 2010 11:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh, migraines. If it makes you feel any better, this is what I have right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_headache

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

Detroit Sucks

by TheRed on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know all about those too.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not that i would know anything about this, as it is illegal and I do not recommend it, but low (non-hallucinogenic) doses of psilocybin (magic mushrooms) or LSD are known to work wonders with headaches, esp migraines and clusters. there is a lot of info on the web about it if you’re curious.

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

Detroit Sucks

by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I have heard of the use with other medical conditions (by an MD, no less), but not headaches. Interesting.

As it is legal in CA, I have taken advantage of the medical use of marijuana to deal with them and that is the only effective measure I have found. However it is not something I can do during work hours, so I must endure the pain until after 4 pm when it is an available option once again.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad something works. Back when I used to partake, it never helped my headaches. Helped me not drink so much though. Oh well, those days are years ago.

It’s legal here too, but you don’t want to let your job know. Not everyone is buying the “medical” thing. A teacher in my county got fired a few weeks ago for having weed on him, even though he has a card. Other employers with no drug policies (even on jobs that are not hazardous duty related, which I understand) have stated that they are not amused either.

"Sometimes you think they must have come out of the chimp cages at the Bronx zoo" - Gerry Cheevers, former Boston Bruins goalie, on New York hockey fans

Detroit Sucks

by TheRed on Feb 11, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, if the job says no go, it’s no go. my job doesn’t test so after hours is after hours. but i’d never keep it on me. stays at home no matter what.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My whole life right now is dealing with ridiculously horrid head issues. I’m off to see yet another neurologist. I have no faith in doctors – western or eastern – anymore. Honestly, it’s part of why I’m moving back to Denver. I’ve always had problems, on and off, my whole life, but the pain lessened when I lived there. Came back hard core when I got back to CA. Might be the altitude. Might be the bullshit of CA. Whatever it is, I’m hoping the move might help.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck!

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Feb 10, 2010 12:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, at this point, my boy will be traded anyway and I’ll never get the chance to hook up with him, so it’s a non-issue.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 1:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He will have to play against Colorado, you know?

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Feb 10, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not into the one night stand thing tho….

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 10, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, me neither.

Sandie

"That’s the way we’ll win championships"- The Baron

by sandiegee on Feb 10, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Mile High Hockey

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by eltharion_doa on Feb 10, 2010 9:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re an equal opportunity discussion board

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by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But Durno’s here to stay 4 awhile I think!

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by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so! This season at least, for sure. We’ll see about next season. Who knows, you know?

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 3:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly don’t know. you know.

Proud Soldier in the Burgandy Brigade.
"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles

by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know, no one knows

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: "I guess the critics were wrong." - Craig Anderson

by NurseBeachie on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh somebody knows! but who knows.

Proud Soldier in the Burgandy Brigade.
"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles

by gl avfan on Feb 11, 2010 5:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny way to generate trade interest

once a player is into healthy scratch category, and with a healthy contract, the Avs have lost almost all leverage in a trade.

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by Redhawk on Feb 9, 2010 8:29 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Or.............

they don’t want him to get hurt while trying to trade him.

Last thing we want, is Liles to go and pull a Souray

by Markopolo on Feb 9, 2010 8:33 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry i don’t see Liles pulling a Svatos and getting into a fight LMAO

by BryceLeo on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd buy that more

if the deal was just about finalized and ready to go through.

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by Redhawk on Feb 9, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Sacco cares about trade interest. The dude plays the guys who he thinks are playing best, period. Whether or not we agree with what he thinks is up for debate, but trade interest is for GM’s to worry about, not head coaches. And the healthy scratches for defensemen will only get more interesting when Salei cracks the line-up.

by ljp78 on Feb 9, 2010 11:40 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

If Salei Cracks the lineup.

I mean who would you scratch then??

by BryceLeo on Feb 9, 2010 12:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. I have no clue. I would suppose Clark, right? No matter what you’re gonna have a couple of angry d-men who feel they should be playing but aren’t. And who knows: Maybe Clark is being played ahead of Liles because HE’S being showcased for a trade. I mean does anyone expect the Avs to re-sign him with the expected talent they have coming up in the system?. . . I have a headache now. :)

by ljp78 on Feb 9, 2010 12:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

between your headache and my tummy ache, we’re a mess. lol.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 9, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that may be true, but you better believe that if a GM tells a coach, “Bench him,” the coach will bench him.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.

by NurseBeachie on Feb 9, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

by ljp78 on Feb 9, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With all the up and coming D-men the avs have, I would not be surprised to see Clark, Liles, Salei and Pressing traded or on Waivers. I don’t think anybody will take Pressing unless its for one of those (reboot/jump-start his career projects) that teams so often do.

Liles could be bundled with another player in a trade, where clark and Salei will fetch 3rd round ( second at best ) draft picks.

by avsfansteve on Feb 9, 2010 5:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hard to move Liles' contract

We’re overpaying him in this market.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 9, 2010 6:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed, it would have to be a team that really needs a puck moving powerplay man with a decent point shot, and that would have to be in the middle of a playoff race, not many teams come to mind.

by avsfansteve on Feb 9, 2010 9:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What about Les Habs?

What’s that Bob? Stepping down? Time off you say?

Never mind.

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 9, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

There should be modest interest in Liles based on relatively recent past. It happens a lot that a good player loses his confidence/chemistry with a team and then resurrects with a new one. Teams might be interested in giving him a chance to do regain the status he had just two years ago.

Also, I question whether the pine time is hardball, as in, “Yes, you can hold up the trade we want to make if you want to, but if you do, we can be pricks too.” A GM might be willing to send a message that way and other GM’s would probably not discount the player much b/c of it if they knew that was what was going on. Not all of this stuff makes the paper.

by Rapierwhitt on Feb 9, 2010 9:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I’m thinking for Preissing.

by avsfansteve on Feb 9, 2010 9:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ehh, he’s done, imo. Just getting an NHL paycheck in the minors for a while.

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by TheRed on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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