Game 58 Recap: Avalanche 5 - Blues 2
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 8, 2010 10:39 PM MST
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The Avalanche needed a win tonight to tie up the Vancouver Canucks on top of the Northwest Division and they didn't disappoint. While the Canucks still hold the tiebreaker over the Avs and retain that top spot, the Avalanche aren't giving up.
Tonight's game is kind of an odd one to describe. The Avalanche played well and yet got a little lucky to boot. Blues' starter Chris Mason was awful between the pipes (he's now allowed 9 goals on 37 shots against the Avs this year) and the Avalanche also benefited from some...well, interesting officiating.
Both Mason and Craig Anderson seemed a little off at the start of the game. Anderson gave up a long goal to Eric Brewer less than 4 minutes in; he immediately complained he was interfered with, but none of the replays captured David Backes in the crease. TJ Galiardi - playing center tonight in the absence of Radar O'Reilly - scored less than 30 seconds later on a pretty, but soft, goal. When Erik Johnson made it 2-1 just under the 8-minute mark, both goalies appeared to be on a fast-track to getting pulled. Anderson pulled it together, however, and didn't allow another one the rest of the way. Mason? Not so much.
Some of that questionable officiating helped the Avalanche out towards the end of the first. TJ Oshie was called for interference - the 2nd offensive zone interference call on the Blues in the period. It was a generous call for the Avalanche, especially when Brandon Yip was able to knock in a puck rolling in the crease on the ensuing powerplay. Although that tied the game, I felt that may have been a real momentum swinger. Instead of going into the first intermission down 2-1, the score was evened up setting the stage for a big 2nd period by the Avalanche.
Chris Stewart started the flurry at the 2:25 mark when he deflected Ryan Wilson's point shot past Mason for his 18th goal of the season. Paul Stastny, playing on a number of Oreo lines on the night (as in, the middle was the only good part), snuck a backhand shortside on Mason just 90 seconds later. Stastny had 7 shots despite playing with linemates like Chris Durno, Justin Mercier, Cody McLeod and Marek Svatos for large chunks of the game. Finally, Yip rifled one in off of Mason's arm just 2 and a half minutes after that. That essentially knocked Mason out of the game (Blues coach Davis Payne waited until after Chris Stewart engaged in an ill-advised fight with BJ Crombeen on the next faceoff). Former UNH Wildcat Ty Conklin played terrific in relief, but the damage was done.
The Avalanche caught another big break later in the period when Oshie appeared to cut the lead to 5-3 with still almost half of the game to play. Instead, the goal was waved off and Oshie was sent to the box for a hook as he battled Hannan to the puck. That was, in my opinion, a terrible call. Even worse, TJ Oshie did not gain possession of the puck after his penalty - it was actually Hannan who fired that into the net (inadvertently).
From there, the game was played relatively evenly and neither team was able to change the score, giving the Avalanche a big 5-2 win and sending the Blues to their 3rd straight loss.
The win was nearly a costly one for the Avalanche. Craig Anderson took a shot off his collarbone at one point and dropped immediately to the ice. He was down for a considerable amount of time, but ultimately shook it off and stayed in the game. Meanwhile, Adam Foote missed a large chunk of the 1st period with an unknown issue, but returned in the 2nd. Wojtek Wolski skated off gingerly after taking a puck to the foot and Brett Clark got stung badly by two separate blocks, but both appeared to be okay. David Koci may not have been so fortunate - he hurt his hand in an early fight with DJ King and did not return to the game.
All in all, a great game by the Avalanche. Yes, they caught some luck on this one, but also played solid hockey for the 2nd game in a row. The Avs have 3 games left before the Olympic break, with two of them against two teams just above them in the standings. Winnable games? If they can keep playing like this...absolutely.
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Sounds like Koci is out with a broken hand.
Avs let off the gas in the third, would have liked to have seen Yip get a hat-trick
Stewie finished the Gordie Howe Hat-trick with his fight
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not sure I can give him props for that. he had no business fighting there with a 3-goal lead
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 8, 2010 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
I liked how Stewart pulled his punches towards the end of the fight though. The other guy was in a really bad position and would’ve taken a hammering if Stewie wasn’t such a nice guy.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 7:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yes
I noticed this, and was impressed as well. Stewart could have really hammered him.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 8:00 AM MST up reply actions
The Blues’ announcers really complimented Stewie for doing this. Clearly the blues player wanted to try and kill the Avs’ momentum by fighting. It did sort of work actually, they jsut couldn’t capitalize on it.
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It was great of him. Reminded me of Lappy.
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As opposed to that dick King who, when Koci clearly pointed out that something was wrong with his hand, went ahead and snuck in a couple of extra punches against a defenseless guy.
In my fantasy world, I wish Stewart had drilled Crombeen when he had him down and then said, “You can thank King for that one, mfer!”
Or Voros a few weeks ago
who got his only decent shots in on Cody Mac after he was down. That ahole.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
In Stewie's defense
He wasn’t the one who started it. Hell, he seemed half-heartedly going into it. Almost like he felt obligated to give the guy a chance to do it for his club. And then he ended it right away with all the class in the world. Like I said in the thread last night, I love this team…more and more every day.
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Program tonight
David Koci was on the cover. Fittingly I used it for about 2 minutes and then it sat on the seat next to me useless the rest of the game.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 8, 2010 10:56 PM MST reply actions 4 recs
hahaha
I see what you did there.
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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
Second period domination
was beeeeeutiful!
Avs first to every puck and intercepting every pass. Definitely sat on the lead through the third.
they did, but they’ve coasted much worse in previous games.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 8, 2010 10:57 PM MST up reply actions
Also
Even though the Avs won, this wasn’t the most exciting game I’ve ever seen
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 PM MST reply actions
But what was the action like at Altitude Authentics?
Seriously though, are they selling Stewart jerseys yet?
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Stewie.. I think so. I only looked for Stastny USA sweaters though, and they got nothing there.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 8, 2010 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
Altiboob Authentics FAIL!
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Also, nobody should be complaining about Wolski tonight, he was creating quite a few chances, and I saw him charge the goal.
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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Feb 8, 2010 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
Hey BiB what's polish for shoot?
Because we need to get a nation-wide effort to yell that at him.
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he’s been shooting plenty though
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 7:46 AM MST up reply actions
Funny Story
Ok not funny, or interesting, but umm… it’s a story.
BiB and I’s tickets were right next to each other tonight. Then my wife, sis-in-law and nephew sat a section away (they went to their seats first) and then I’m assuming BiB did the ol upgrade, since there were plenty of good seats available.
But in a stadium of 18k, it was kinda weird that we were going to have seats next to one another.
See, I told you, not funny at all. What WAS funny was that he was leading the " Let’s go Wolski" cheers.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 8, 2010 11:06 PM MST reply actions
I was yelling at him in Polish
To shoot the puck with more authority.
Nice seeing you briefly, Jib. Yep, we snuck out way into better seats. Plenty to be had tonight. Makes me very sad.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry I couldn’t stick around and chat for a few more minutes. We’ll meet up at some game where I don’t have my 3-year old nephew with me.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 7:44 AM MST up reply actions
Just watched the Kings/Ducks highlights
and it looks like that win for the Ducks was a costly one. Ryan Getzlaf is out with a “sprained ankle”. More tests to follow on Tuesday. Ouch.
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I love it!!
It is so awesome to watch NHL on the Fly and here all of the great things that everyone there has to say about our Young Guns!!
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Officiating
Gotta agree it was poor, the called off goal especially. That should have counted, and it could have gotten the Blues back in the game, esp with the way the avs were sitting on the lead. And that late powerplay? Did they get ANY shots? If I hadn’t seen that before I’d a thought they were letting the blues back in it.
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Yeah, I’m curious as to why it was called off.
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The Blues goal that got waived off? It was because they called a hooking penalty on Oshie. Hid did lift Hannan’s (?) stick and they say he got enough of the body to warrant a hooking call. Personally, I also think it was a week call and the Blues should have had a goal; though not sure Oshie ever got a stick on it, looked more like Hannan shot/deflected it in the net.
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by Americanario on Feb 9, 2010 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
We discussed it above
it’s very obvious that it should have been a goal regardless but once it was called no goal, there is no recourse through video review for the play.
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Gosh darnit DDC
Did I just read the phrase in your recap that I think I just read?
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We totally picked the wrong Statsny.
hahahahahahaha!
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I’m still trying to figure out that first goal…well not the goal, but what Anderson was complaining about. There was nothing there Andy…sorry
The second goal was just a classic screen. There was one replay view that showed the look from behind Johnson, and there were two Blues and one Av in front of Anderson…in fact, you couldn’t even see him in that replay. THAT is how you screen a goalie…can’t stop the shot you can’t see.
The rest of the game…yeah, it was a win. But for some reason, it didn’t feel all that energetic, from the players, and especially the (lack of) fans in the building.
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yeah. and that was with that $20 promo
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 5:26 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, the only time I heard about the $20 promo was during the Avs/Rangers game and on here about 20 minutes before the box office opened yesterday.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 8:02 AM MST up reply actions
The Avs don’t advertise any of that stuff very well. If you watch the Altitude feeds really closely they will briefly mention them. At the games they briefly flash them on the jumbo tron in between plays. You have to be paying close attention to catch both. I tried to compile all the deals I found in a fan post here for the upcoming games. If you can afford it, the upcoming Breakaway Plan is a tremendous deal. Tickets to 4 different games for $89. Good games too: Calgary, Chicago, LA and the Ducks.
If you thought this game was empty, I predict the ATL game on Wednesday will break the Avs record for lowest attendance ever. I have not seen or heard of any deals and it’s a weekday game against a small market team that just traded their star player. I sure hope I’m wrong on this…
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I’m officially concerned. The crowd last night was almost certainly less than 10K. The organization needs to do something to get the word out about this team and fast. They have a product worth watching, but hardly anyone knows about them. And that is squarely on the organization. Lazy, pathetic, inept marketing. Pure and simple.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Bob, I told you, Denver fans suck. We won’t go to games unless the team is winning, unless tickets are cheap, unless the team is a novelty, or unless they’re the Broncos. That’s one problem. The weather wasn’t great, either. Marketing is certainly shit by KSE, but that’s just part of the problem. You can make all the funny and adorable ads you want, but I ain’t coming out to watch the game unless the team is fun to watch, too. And even then, I have to decide if I want to watch it in the comfort of my own home in HD, or if I want to go get ripped off for parking and concessions (especially concessions) and maybe see an enjoyable game or maybe see a dog.
Other problems that certainly won’t be fixed are:
-too many games in a season (they’re not events, just burdens)
-too many teams in the league (most fans coming to last night’s game couldn’t have named 5 Blues if you’d given them Kariya and Tkachuk)
-ticket prices are too fucking high, period
But they need to at least do their part to get the word out, correct? The team is winning, is enjoyable to watch, and has young up and coming stars who need to be exposed. The fact that Kroenke is just sitting on his hands while attendance dwindles is frightening. Is he putting too much of his own time and money into other endeavors right now to even care?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
reply fail to Dan
but yes, I notice that ticket prices will be the same too. Great. Another sign of just how out of touch they are with reality.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Where did you see about the ticket prices for next year?
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
We already received our season ticket renewal material. Prices are all the same, I believe.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
is your yahoo email still something you check? if not, will you send me a ping from whatever email is best for you. I have a few Qs (not Quennevilles)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, and sent you an email from it anyways. Let me know what you need DDC.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
In Dallas, they’re lowering prices for the lower bowl. In the same story, Tom Hicks said in 2002 Dallas made the most money in the league and Denver was 2nd. He says now that Dallas is 19th and Denver right behind that.
Seems like KSE is great at reminding you about renewing your season tickets, not so great at promoting the team. Hey, the guy’s a bazillionairre, maybe it’s the model that works, gives them the best bang for their buck, who knows?
Of course, part of his wealth
Involved giving one of the Walton sisters the best bang for her buck. If you know what I mean.
I don’t know. His decision to move the Avs and Nuggets to an obscure, poor signal radio station certainly was short sighted and is part of the problem. And remember when at least 10 games or so were on over the air television? Couldn’t hurt to expose the team to folks who don’t have cable or satellite, could it? And the lack of marketing this season has been extremely puzzling.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
He owned the Nuggets for an awful long time when they weren’t drawing anybody. I can’t imagine that a season and a half of poor attendance at Avs games is that concerning, particularly when the Nuggets are drawing well with some prices that are just as high, if not higher, than those of the Avs.
Not to say that he wouldn’t be concerned, I just doubt that his checkbook is really feeling the effects as bad as a lot of people seem to think it is.
I hate the Red Wings.
That's the problem
The Avs are going to let the playoffs do the marketing. Maybe that’s more profitible long term (doubt it) but they could be seeing more this season.
That said, attendance this season is a lost cause. Marketing and winning won’t do anything about it. the Gate at games like last night are driven by season tickets. $20 deals are nice and all, but won’t make a big sustained impact.
The way to sell season tix is :
a) winning
b) advertising
c) economic recovery
Having their worst season, and frankly one of the most uninspiring seasons I’ve ever seen, the same year as the economy collapsed was a perfect storm of losing season tickets. These attendance problems could have been predicted then…
But there’s a recovery going on, and marketing these kids and their winning would really help the recovery of the season ticket base. That’s where the Avs are really screwing the pooch here.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Conoco player signings
I was talking to my boss about this yesterday. Now that Conoco has pulled out, there are very few meet and greets for players to sign stuff for fans.
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by Avalanche318 on Feb 9, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I really don’t think the weather had anything to do with it. I drove from work in DTC to east-Aurora to pickup my gf and then downtown. About 1.25 hour commute last night, but it would have taken the same amount of time if it were 80 degrees outside. The roads were 99% clear.
Cheaper parking is not impossible to find. The Auraria Campus parking lot right across the street from Pepsi Center is closer than the Pepsi Center lots and only $10 (even cheaper parking can be found).
The team is winning and tickets last night were only $20 (that’s 20 flat. No additonal taxes/fees BS).
I was born/raised in Denver and lived here all my life. Avs fans in Denver are getting harder and harder to defend…
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The weather had something to do with it. I missed last night because of the weather, and it was only the 2nd game I have missed all year.
As for cheap parking, the lot directly to the west of the Pepsi Center lot (near the Invesco light rail stop) is 2 bucks. It may take you and extra 3 minutes to walk there, but it will save more time than that on a crowded night trying to get out.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Parking
Garage directly across the street (Wewatta and Speer) is $5, and has easy access to I-25 after the game. I always park there.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
$2 you say?
What road do you take to get to that lot? I’m trying to google map it and figure out which you are talking about.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
That’s not bad either. Little bit of a walk though.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
If Denver fans suck
All fans suck, plain and simple.
We won’t go to games unless the team is winning, unless tickets are cheap, unless the team is a novelty, or unless they’re the Broncos. That’s one problem. The weather wasn’t great, either. Marketing is certainly shit by KSE, but that’s just part of the problem. You can make all the funny and adorable ads you want, but I ain’t coming out to watch the game unless the team is fun to watch, too. And even then, I have to decide if I want to watch it in the comfort of my own home in HD, or if I want to go get ripped off for parking and concessions (especially concessions) and maybe see an enjoyable game or maybe see a dog.
This is the case in every single city. Some cities are big enough that they can handle it (like New York) and the attendance dip doesn’t manifest itself so badly. But really, this is the case for every single sports city in America.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
I agree, with some exceptions. St. Louis sure does love its baseball…Denver and Washington DC love football…Toronto loves its hockey…probably a few others I missed, but those are the ones that jump out. Hockey’s not in our blood here, that’s all.
I think almost every town has one team that everyone will love regardless.
Boston: Red Sox. NY: Yankees. Pittsburgh: Steelers. S.F.: Giants. Denver has the Broncos.
That said if the Broncos get an egotistical, micro-managing coach who uses nepotism for coaching hires and the Broncos start going 2-8 and not showing any signs of life, they won’t sell out games forever.
at $35 a ticket I’d go see a 2-8 donkeys team… at $85 i’d stay home.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
agree with points from Dan and Jibbles both.
While Denver does have a good base of die-hard hockey fans, we don’t have the true depth of hockey love that some cities have. I think the economics plus last seasons debacle amplify the portion of our fanbase that would be considered “bandwagoners” or “casual fans”.
I do think it’s odd that a few years ago, despite Detroits success, they couldn’t sell out the Joe…. hockey media didn’t seem to have a problem citing the economy as the root of the problem then.
Did anybody notice the massive amount of empty seats in DC for the Caps-Pens NBC matchup? definately had to be due to the weather, but man there was a lot of open seating that day.
I think almost every town has one team that everyone will love regardless.
Boston: Red Sox. NY: Yankees. Pittsburgh: Steelers. S.F.: Giants. Denver has the Broncos.
If by “regardless” you mean after the new stadium was built and while Bonds was in his prime, then, yes, you can put San Francisco on that list. But “regardless” probably doesn’t include the 9 years in the 1970s where the Giants averaged less than 9,000/game.
Atlanta has no team they love – their fans suck for all the teams. And Florida’s just a pathetic pro market.
Jibs, we got rid of our egotistical, micro-managing coach who hired relatives. The Mastermind, who fired defensive coordinators on a seemingly annual basis, took his son with him to Washington. The Broncos aren’t going start out the season 2-8 any time soon.
Agreed, that came out wrong, but yes, there are certainly cities that have no team. Atlanta, Miami (even though the Dolphins are close), Seattle (now that the Sonics are gone), San Diego. Plenty of bad sports cities out there.
Jibs, we got rid of our egotistical, micro-managing coach who hired relatives.
And hired a new one! PROGRESS
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Denver fans suck. We won’t go to games unless the team is winning, unless tickets are cheap
But they ARE winning, and you CAN get cheap tickets. It’s just that no one knows about this. And that is squarely on the heads of KSE marketing, not Denver fans. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked this year how the avs are doing. NOBODY knows. I agree that ticket prices in general are too high, but the deals are there.
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Even if most people still can’t afford to go, they should know what’s going on. There should still be a buzz about town. Corporations should want to take clients there (and yes, corporations still have money to burn. They always do) The guys should see that the town has interest in them. Period.
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One section
There was one section for the $20 promo… it was nearly full, other than those ne’er-do-wells
who decided to sit in other sections in order to get better seats or just have more room.
That and it was snowing here yesterday, and in order to get the seats you had to show up at the box office to get tickets.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 7:47 AM MST up reply actions
I was there. Front row of the $20 section. I wore my Stastny jersey, my gf had on a Budaj jersey. The snow wasn’t that bad to prevent people from going. It’s really worrisome the place was that empty last night on $20 ticket night :(
I bet if these guys (SFW) saw that tickets here were $20 they’d crap their parallel ports.
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that was hilarious
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 9, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Hmm
I was in the next section over: 334 near the top, in my green Sakic 2004 All star sweater. My wife was in a Burgundy Sakic, my sister in law (and her twin) in her blue Sakic All-star sweater.
You may have noticed one of us that evening.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Twins…
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 9, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
I had the St. Louis feed on this one
The announcers explained, and I seemed to agree, that andy moved to the edge of the crease to take the shot and raised his glove hand. The Blues player skated by and knocked his glove down a bit. a second later the shot went by where Andy’s glove would have been. Andy thought that the Blues player was in the crease and interfered with his glove’s position. Andy was wrong
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I didn’t catch that explanation at all. makes sense though
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 7:23 AM MST up reply actions
It was during some replay
I took over the analysis from them after they said Andy was outside the crease. In summary, I am smarter than the Blues announcers.
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speaking of the Blues feed, did you happen to catch when Panger mentioned that we picked up Kyle Quincey “for a song”?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:20 AM MST up reply actions
Yup
I yelled at the TV over that one. BTW, wasn’t Panger doing Coyotes broadcasts? Since when did he start with St Louis?
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 8:23 AM MST up reply actions
this offseason. St Louis sent Federko to the studio and added Pang. I like Pang overall – he and Kelly make a good team
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:28 AM MST up reply actions
Panger is really pretty knowledgeable — just tends to ramble. But he’s especially good when compared to his Bizzaro twin, Pierre McGuire.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 8:32 AM MST up reply actions
Pierre McGuire
is Gary Bettman’s twin brother separated at birth. His drooling over Crosby and the Pens annoys me, especially when it is a nationally televised game. For those games, I think it would be more appropriate to have a more neutral commentator.
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I've been saying it for months
How much better would the NBC broadcast be if they replaced McGuire with Pang, and Milbury with Roenick?
1000x?
1,000,000x?
Or “divide by zero” big?
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
I’d say it would be Broddingdang-ingly big — so big, that the scale could only be expressed in terms of googolplex.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
Wait, I missed this. What did he say?
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basically just that. he mentioned Quincey and how well he’s doing this year and then said the Avalanche picked him up for a song. I don’t think it was a slight on Smyth – I think he just made a mistake
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
Any word on the injuries on defense?
Johnny Hot Pocket’s been producing big numbers for me in fantasy and I’d like to see him back on the ice ASAP.
That game sucked
Wilson didn’t kill someone. I consider the whole night a loss.
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He was stunned
Koci won a fight.
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Koci won a fight?
I’m shocked.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Feb 9, 2010 7:44 AM MST up reply actions
Where in the World is Trailor Arnason?
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Won the fight yes…but his hand lost the battle. (That’s what she said?)
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Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
Did anybody hear what happened with Jackman?
That was a really unfortunate injury and looks like it could turn out badly for him. I think he’s had a history with his ankle.
When my family used to live in St Louis I would go to games all the time and Jackman was one of the few guys I could manage to cheer for in between yelling at Pronger for being such a freaking pansy.
He came back for the third.
He pulled a Brett Clark. Looked seriously in pain, but came back for his next shift.
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I’m sorry, but I feel like I need to reiterate this: Pronger = a whiny little girl. The guy took 9 out of 10 shifts off while playing with St Louis. For the love of Pete do I despise him.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 8:29 AM MST up reply actions
Game Thoughts
- I think Andy was just venting frustration with that goal. I’m sure he knew it was going to be allowed he just had to yell at someone. He’s feisty and I love it!
- Didn’t Oshie’s goal (well, non-goal) go off his skate as well? I thought that was a pretty blatent hooking call which would have rendered the play dead before the puck got to the net. Not sure if it would have changed the momentum of the game- we did win with a 3 goal lead so I guess no Blues fan can really complain that it would have made much of a difference.
- I thought we played most of the third like shit. I really thought they were trying to give the Blues a good opportunity for a comeback. If we didn’t have a 3 goal lead I would have been had a heart attack.
- I suspect the reason there weren’t many people there was because of how shitty it was last night. I was driving around Littleton and it was slick as hell and worse in places like the Valley (Ken Caryle- where Sakic lives) and in other areas around town. It may not have been blizzarding but the roads were terrible and I wouldn’t have wanted to chance i-25 by any means.
Oshie’s goal went off his skate, onto Hannan’s stick and into the net
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:20 AM MST up reply actions
Would that have counted regardless of the hooking? Like I said I think the play would have been deemed dead, but doesn’t it have to go off the opposing players stick to count?
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 9, 2010 8:23 AM MST up reply actions
well, I’m not 100% sure. The play technically shouldn’t have been whistled dead because Oshie never had control of the puck after he hooked Hannan. I’m not sure what the ruling is on an own-goal on a delayed penalty, to be honest
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
Like you said DDC
The officiating was “interesting”.
The play never should have been dead. Think of that delayed penalty in the Vancouver game last year where they put the puck in their own net. That goal should have counted.
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what really surprised me was that the St Louis guys didn’t catch that – they were going crazy over the penalty (and justifiably so, in my opinion). had they noticed that, I think Panger might have exploded
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
I guess I’m just not sure what constitutes a dead play or not.
I’d have to watch the play again but if Osie directed the puck with his skate (even if it wasn’t with a kick) and it wasn’t a deflection from another player, it would not have counted regardless of going off Hannan’s stick.
However the rules are a little ambiguous and the refs could have probably counted that if they felt like it.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 9, 2010 8:50 AM MST up reply actions
Should still be a goal right? I mean there’s been situations where a team pulls their goalie and accidentally puts it in their own net.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Yes
Just like Vancouver. In the referees defense, he thought it hit the Blues’ player’s stick. Under that assumption, they cannot review the goal, because technically they are reviewing the penalty not the goal. It’s a tricky situation because had it been called a goal in the first place they cannot go back and review whether the Blues player had possession because if it did they would have to call it no goal because of the penalty. It’s basically the black hole of the NHL rules guide.
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If I understand it correctly:
Since a penalty was being called (agree with the penalty or not), Oshie can not control/shoot the puck, as soon as he does the whistle is blown. Hannan never had control of the puck, only deflected it (?). The action/force that put the puck in the net was not Hannan’s, but Oshie’s. So no goal.
Had Hannan controlled the puck, tried to shoot it/pass it and then it went into the net it would be a goal regardless of the penalty.
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Yes and No
It does not matter what happened. Had Hannon touched it, passed it, or anything it should have been a goal. The issue was, the referee saw Oshie touch the puck, which is why he blew the whistle. He saw it wrong but it is not reviewable.
In a perfect world, even if it had touched Oshie’s skate and then Hannan’s stick, it would have been a good goal. The action that forced the puck does not negate the goal unless Oshie has control via the rules.
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I’m not sure what the ruling is on an own-goal on a delayed penalty, to be honest
It’s a goal, and the old Rockies were involved in history when Billy Smith became the first goalie to ever be credited with scoring a goal. Yep, that’s how hapless that team was.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=257273&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_main
I was driving around Littleton and it was slick as hell and worse in places like the Valley (Ken Caryle- where Sakic lives) and in other areas around town
FWIW, not to be too pedantic about it, but Sakic doesn’t live in Ken Caryl. My niece and nephew went to grade school with Sakic’s oldest son, and his twins are 3rd-graders at that same school.
Well if he doesn’t he used to- and not long ago at that. And it wasn’t the ranch it was the Valley. My fiance delivers papers in there and has seen him numerous times.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 9, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
my question
is it “skate bake railroad” or “skate bakerr” with the extra “rrrr” for emphasis?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 8:55 AM MST reply actions
I thought she was an ex-skate baker who prescribes drugs.
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Ok let me explain!
So when I was a junior in high school I had to make a Yahoo e-mail address to join a school related group. At the time I was really into skateboarding (despite being terrible at it) and my favorite skateboard deck company was Baker skateboards. Skatebaker was already taken so I added x’s to the front and back because that was pretty much just as cool. Then immediately after making that e-mail address I forgot the password to the account and couldn’t recover it so I made a new one with two r’s. I have a hard time remembering usernames so I use it for pretty much everything, despite it now being embarrassing haha.
by xskatebakerrx on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
I feel your pain.
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the difference is they have ointment for yours, SeeSixWhores.
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Luckily I made a new username for MHH before realizing you could sign on with a Yahoo Account. Otherwise, my name would be “RabbidTurttle”
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Please use rabbidturtle
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seconded
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
crickets
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve only read Cat’s Cradle, but I enjoyed it.
I will read Slaughterhouse 5 next probably.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Breakfast of Champions...
is a good book. Take this as a great testimony because I’ve read about 20 books in my entire life but I really liked Breakfast of Champions. Slaughter House 5 wasn’t that good, but I do wanna read Cat’s Cradle sometime.
by Avalanche318 on Feb 9, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Those are two great ones (though Slaughterhouse 5 is just depressing). Another couple favorites of mine are Galapagos and Jailbird. “Malachi Constant” is from The Sirens of Titan.
by MalachiConstant on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Let me tell you about embarrassing
I’ve used my username since high-school, back when I played DnD.
I used to come up with various reasons for my username for awhile cause I was embarrassed I played it.
And that’s nothing compared to my MSN email. stud_27
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Whew
Glad i’m not the only super-nerd here.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Geez, that must have been like herding cats. I was in a guild of less than 50 people and it seemed at times like a giant pain in the ass.
Do you still play WoW? I stopped about a year ago, mostly because of computer problems, but I’m thinking of getting back into it again.
I don’t play anymore, quit when I finished grad school and got a job (and I don’t get why some people have such a hard time quitting). It was a nice time sink while separated from my wife/all human contact in Alaska/other places, and I still keep in contact with friends from my old guild.
I do not miss the never ending drama. I’m sure you’d find this hard to believe, but I was a no-BS leader — both in raids and otherwise. By having that mentality, it really led to less overall BS.
Since the guild was linked to an outside gaming community, we were obliged to accept any members from that site. that led to lower overall quality of players in raids and a real casual/hardcore player split in top level players. that drama…ugh, well, that never ended. still, mostly good times. :)
WoW
is for the popular kids.
I play the more in depth stuff, like Vanguard and Star Wars Galaxies (although my computer needs an upgrade)
I al also plowing through the first season of the new Dr. Who
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
no
I stopped playing both those. My comps too old and needs an upgrade before I play anything again.
I wanted to check out the new Star Trek one, but i need to upgrade to Win 7 first
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
Diablo 3 is coming in 2011
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 9, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
This saddens me
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Hmm
i ran a guild of 500-1000 people in WoW. beat that.
no wonder you can’t write for/with me
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
ruh roh
some slacker is in trouble.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
lol, yeah, I suck at blogging. like i said, i quit WoW when i started a job/got married. i have no time whatsoever, it feels like.
If you’ll have me, i’ll still write a bit for you over the summer though.
Of course
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 9, 2010 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
Good for Gaborik, he almost made it 60 games before geting hurt
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4900252
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about 3 or 4 games too late, unfortunately
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
No doubt
I was hoping that Wilson would discharge Gabby from that game early with a good clean knockout hit.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 9, 2010 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Stewie gets second star over at Puck Daddy’s blog; Yip gets an honorable mention as well.
The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Much more gooderer than last year.
Stasny
“Paul Stastny, playing on a number of Oreo lines on the night (as in, the middle was the only good part), snuck a backhand shortside on Mason just 90 seconds later. Stastny had 7 shots despite playing with linemates like Chris Durno, Justin Mercier, Cody McLeod and Marek Svatos for large chunks of the game.”
I am wondering if Stasny’s play and shots on goal might be better when he looks left and right, shakes his head and then goes to the net himself. Maybe he is better at elevating a mediocre line than he is at elevating a good one.
OT, but
Oklahoma City has hockey again!
http://www.prodigalhockey.com/
Feel free to submit names for the team! :-)
should i do Flying Cumiskeys again?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 9, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
I just did
The Oklahoma Joe Sakics
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FYI, Both Stewie and Gali get pegged for Plays of the Night on NHL.com.
I’m starting to think the tides are turning in the league when it comes to our boys…
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good night around the league
losses by Calgary, Vancouver, and hopefully here shortly, Detoilet
AWESOME
He was one guy that I was excited about during camp (btw this blog made me SUPER EXCITED about training camp).
Haydar, Yip, and Stoa (outside of Dutchy and Radar ofcourse)
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