UPDATED: Ovechkin to get TWO games suspension
by NurseBeachie on Mar 14, 2010 12:42 PM MDT
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Well, according the rule book, anyway. It's supposed to be automatic and there should be no way around it.
23.5 Fines and Suspensions - Stick Infractions, Boarding and Checking from Behind Category - In regular League games, any player or goalkeeper who incurs a total of two (2) game misconduct penalties for stick-related infractions, Boarding - Rule 42, or Checking from Behind - Rule 44, shall be suspended automatically for the next League game of his team. For each subsequent game misconduct penalty, the automatic suspension shall be increased by one game.
Sunday, Ovie checked 'Hawks defenseman Brian Campbell into the boards in a nasty hit that earned him a 5-minute major and a game misconduct, his third this season. Here's a video of the hit:
Of course, because it's Alexander Ovechkin, people all over are defending him, saying it's "hockey." On the other side of the ring, because of the Matt Cooke incident, people all over are calling for his head (no pun intended). It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Regardless, according to the rules, it has to be a minimum of a one-game suspension given Ovie's previous infractions since October: two game misconducts, three penalties for checking from behind (leads NHL) and a boarding penalty.
Nice poster boy for the league, huh? I vote we replace him with Duchene. Crosby for the East, Matt for the West. Someone call Bettman stat.
UPDATE: Apparently, Alex timed his douchebagery perfectly...Rule 23.5 also says...
When a player or goalkeeper has played in 41 consecutive regular League games without being assessed a boarding and/or a checking from behind major and a game misconduct according to Rules 42 and 44, he will have the previous game misconduct penalties removed from his current record. They will remain part of his historical record.
Sunday's game was Ovechkin's 42nd since the previous hit. Congrats, Mr. Bettman. You can stop sweating now.
UPDATE 2: Rule states 41 consecutive regular League games for the player...looks like Ovie may only have had 40, while the Caps had 42. The drama continues...
UPDATE 3: It's confirmed that Brian Campbell DID suffer a broken clavicle. He's out for the rest of the season and probably into the postseason. Ovechkin faces a disciplinary hearing today. I'm sure this news will come into play.
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Dang it Beachie. I was going to say “that was awfully fast”. This is twice today you’ve messed with my head.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 14, 2010 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions
The NHL needs to suspend Ovechkin for two games at the minimum. In a sports season where we hear about things such as “star systems” where punishment is meted out (be it offender or offended), the NHL can send a strong message about giving due punishment where it’s warranted. This was a rough hit and in my opinion was not a “hockey hit” as some people may use in Ovie’s defense. Campbell passed the puck away yet Ovechkin still continued to check him from behind. The way I see it, once a player has stopped playing to the puck, nobody should have any business laying a check on him. Add to that, Campbell was in a vulnerable position when that hit was laid on him, so the game misconduct was deserved and necessary. Ovechkin may be a star quality player, but he’s starting to give off the A-Rod/Kobe Bryant/Michael Vick vibe. Plus, I’ve never been a fan of his Geico commercials.
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by TCJohnnyHotPocket on Mar 14, 2010 5:45 PM MDT reply actions
Today is one of the few time I disagree with Rycroft. They discussed this hit in the post game report after the Avs/Dallas game and Rycroft didn’t think there should be a suspension. He was saying it was a good, hard hockey hit.
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Doesn't look like the suspension will be automatic-
He got lucky with that one, but the league could still hand one out.
Just was at
TSN.ca and they are saying that:
TSN has learned that despite this being Ovechkin’s third game misconduct this season, he will not be suspended because the penalties were not assessed for the same infraction. His last game misconduct was handed out for a knee-on-knee hit on Tim Gleason of the Carolina Hurricanes.
I am ok with this because this hit was not even in the same realm as Matt Cooke’s hit.
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it’s actually being compared to lapierre’s hit that did get a suspension.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 14, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
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NHL is defining “boarding” now and in light of the severity of B.Campbell’s injury, Ovechkin may face suspension.
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Crap, let's pretend that this is in a BQ, shall we?
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 15, 2010 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions
The one thing I did notice about the hit was that Campbell was a pretty good distance away from the boards when he was checked, and Ovechkin could definitely see his back numbers. Combine that with the fact that the guy no longer had the puck and the NHL would be setting a dangerous precedent by not issuing a suspension. I can break out the Suspension Flow Chart again, but we may have to replace “Damnit Pronger!” to “Damnit Overchkin!” if he keeps pulling stuff like this.
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by chopchopchop on Mar 15, 2010 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I was watching the game and it didn’t look to me to be a dirty hit. What I see in Ovechkin is a player who truly doesn’t grasp how strong and powerful he is. He is a 235 pound freight train coming at a guy with tremenous speed. I would agree with jd21 that because of this it makes him reckless. I don’t feel this hit was anything remotely similar to the Richards or the Cooke hits. I have no problem with him getting a suspension, but I still don’t believe he intended to hurt Campbell (and is reaction afterward was to motion with his hand a sort of apology to Campbell).
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I don’t think he intended to hurt him at all. I think Ovie’s an idiot who doesn’t care what happens to others. Reckless indeed.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 15, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I love Ovie
But I think this was pretty bad. He does play over the line sometimes, including a few kneeing incidents, and I think he deserves a 2 to 4 game suspension for this. Of course, I also think that Cooke deserved at least 10, and he didn’t get anything, so who knows what that idiot Campbell will do.
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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM MDT reply actions
Ovie had a disciplinary hearing at noon (ET), or at least should have, we should know soon then, shouldn’t we?
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idiot Colin Campbell, I should say. I’m not calling Brian Campbell an idiot for being shoved into the boards from behind. But speaking of …. where is Derek’s poll asking what length of suspension Brian Campbell should receive?
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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 15, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't think it was that dirty.
But it was definitely at least a little dirty, certainly cheap, and against the rules. That being said, I don’t think Ovechkin was thinking about hurting him. That’s just how he plays the game. He obviously felt bad about it.
A 1-2 game suspension sounds about right.
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I’m not saying it was dirty. I’m with mom..reckless. Incredibly reckless.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m not saying it was dirtyI don’t think it was dirty either.
fixed. the other wording sounded defensive. didn’t mean it that way. = )
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 15, 2010 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with what seems to be the basic sentiment…
It was not a dirty hit, with intent to injure Campbell. The on ice officials made the right call in that is was boarding and it was dangerous. The distance from the boards, the timing of the hit, the awkward position of Campbell, all combined to make the hit dangerous. Ovie is a great player, but as other have stated he seems to react on emotion too much. Emotion is great at times, but in this case it led to another player getting injured. The league needs to start giving out suspensions for these types of hits if it is serious about protecting it’s players. A 1-2 game suspension in this case would be enough to say “you are warned” and “we are taking this seriously”. Repeat offenders need to be smacked with a 5 game, then 10, 20, etc. If you are going to get serious then get serious. With Ovie he is a repeat offender with reckless, but not dirty hits. A suspension is warranted and needs to be handed out.
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Washington Post reporting two-game suspension for Ovechkin.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Mar 15, 2010 4:05 PM MDT reply actions
What a tool.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 15, 2010 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions
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