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Mile High Hockey Takes A Look At The Hart Trophy Race

According to the NHL’s website, the Hart Memorial Trophy is, "an annual award given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association in all NHL cities at the end of the regular season."

 

Now, I am pretty certain guarantee that if Craig Anderson isn’t between the pipes for the Colorado Avalanche, this team is in the basement of the Western Conference again this year. Sounds pretty valuable to me.

 

This is not meant as a knock against Peter Budaj and his abilities as a goalie, it is just simply the truth. Time and time again this season Andy has won games for this team that, in all reality, they had no business winning. Latest example? Sunday afternoon in Dallas.  He made 48 saves (18 in the third period) in a game where Dallas seemed to have the upper hand throughout.

 

Here is a look at some of his numbers through Monday afternoon:

 


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Craig Anderson 60 3593 35 19 147 2.45 1923 1776 .924 7

 

He is currently on pace to set the franchise record for games started and wins. You may have heard of the guy that owns those records, Patrick Roy. As a goalie, if you ever have a chance to break any record that is held by him, that is something special.

 

Is this enough to get him into the running for the Hart Trophy? Time will tell, but I have this sneaking suspicion that it won’t and it really frustrates the hell out of me.

 

Follow the jump for a look at the rest of the potential nominees for the Hart Trophy.

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Over the last two seasons, you can’t mention MVP and not hear Alexander Ovechkin’s name. He has lead the NHL in goal scoring the last 2 years and is showing no signs of slowing down. In just 385 games (through March 14th), he has amassed an astounding 516 points (263G, 253A).

 

Known as Alexander "the Great" in D.C., he has single-handedly been responsible for the turn around of that franchise. With him in the lineup, they have won the Southeast division title the last 3 years, including already clinching the title this season.

 

There is also no doubt that there is also some controversy surrounding Ovechkin as well. He plays every shift like it is going to be his last, and leaves it all out on the ice. Unfortunately, this style of play ends up costing him. As most everyone knows, he laid a "careless" hit on Brian Campbell of the Chicago Blackhawks on Sunday afternoon. I am calling it careless because he wanted to make contact without thinking of where Campbell was on the ice (several feet from the boards, coming in at full speed). I am not going to call it a dirty hit, because it wasn’t. In my opinion, there was no malicious intent in the hit. He didn’t want to hurt Campbell and even offered a hand gesture apologizing to Campbell immediately following the hit. He was given a major penalty for boarding and a game misconduct. No suspension has been given by the League, but he is scheduled for a hearing with NHL disciplinarian, Colin Campbell to review the incident.

 

Another name that you can’t forget when talking about the most valuable player, is Sidney Crosby.  No doubt Sid "the Kid" is the face of the NHL.

 

This season has seen him score more goals than any of his previous season, as of Monday afternoon he has 45 goals. He is well on his way to having his first 50 goal season. The most he had scored previously was 39 during his rookie season.

 

Pittsburgh is trailing only the Washington Capitals right now for the top overall spot in the Eastern Conference.

 

As if he wasn’t valuable enough to the Pittsburgh Penguins, he added another achievement to his already hall of fame worthy resume a few weeks ago. Something about a gold medal in the men’s hockey tournament during the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. I think that he may have scored a goal in that game too...not sure though.

 

There is no doubt that at the tender age of 22 he has accomplished in the game of hockey than most people could ever dream of.

 

A few other names being tossed around for potential nominees is Ryan Miller, goalie for the Buffalo Sabres and Henrik Sedin of the Vancouver Canucks. If I was a betting man though, I would go ahead and put Ovechkin’s name on the Hart Trophy again. I am not happy about it, but it's what's going to happen. In my opinion, Craig Anderson should be bringing the Hart Trophy back to Denver for the first time since Super Joe in 2001.

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Who should win the Hart Trophy as the NHL's most valuable player?
Craig Anderson
108 votes
Alexander Ovechkin
54 votes
Sidney Crosby
13 votes
Someone else, name your pick in the comments
17 votes

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I reckon Miller has more of a shot at Hart than Andy. There’s always the east-coast bias and Miller is also fighting for Vezina together with Bryzgalov. Andy is still totally unknown and I’m afraid he will not get the recognition he deserves.

by Tommelot on Mar 16, 2010 1:27 AM MDT reply actions  

I don’t think there’s any “real” competition for the Vezina. If Miller doesn’t get it I’m going to be really, really surprised. But I disagree that Andy is totally unknown. I hear his name come up over and over again, without being over-hyped.

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 1:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

You know, if Andy is in the discussion, then Miller and Bryz have to be in the discussion, too. Both Buffalo and Phoenix can owe their entire season’s success to their goalie. And if that’s the case, then likely the nod would have to go to the guy who’s the favorite for the Vezina since he’s performed the best in that situation.

Others include:

Ovechkin — Probably the league’s best player, but Washington is still great without him.

Crosby — He’s actually carrying more weight this year than he ever has because of Malkin’s off year.

Sedin — What’s a Vancouver? Do east coast writers even have the necessary keys on their keyboard to type in Henrik’s name?

Patrick Marleau — Overshadowed by his now only occasional linemates, but having his best year.

Jamie Howard — Because every writer in Michigan will think so because he’s carried the Red Wings through the black plague, the great potato famine, the holocaust, the Spanish inquisition (who would have expected?) Hurricane Katrina, the explosion of Pompei and a Color Me Bad reunion concert at the Palace.

Mike Richards — Because Pierre McGwire likely has a vote

Marian Gaborik — Because he plays in New York.

Wayne Gretzky — Because I’m sure the Atlanta newspaper has a beat writer who thinks he’s still playing.

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who’s that Jamie Howard guy? How many damn goalies do the Wangs have this year?

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by Americanario on Mar 16, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jamie, Jimmy, Johnny, Jenny … whatever it takes.

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jamie is even better than Jimmy and Osmediocre. According to idiot RW fans.

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Craig Anderson – Makes or breaks this team.

Alexander Ovechkin – Powerful as he is, his team can win without him, they’ve proven that a few times.

Sidney Crosby – Once again, Crosby is a powerful force, but Pittsburgh isn’t a one man show.

Anyone else – Irrelevant.

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 1:28 AM MDT reply actions  

These echo my thoughts, but since they are rational and logical, they will bear no resemblance to what actually occurs in the Hart voting race…

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by Mike @ MHH on Mar 16, 2010 7:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Similar to how suspensions are determined. Matt Cooke will play Thursday night. He may or may not play after Thursday, depending upon how Boston handles the “situation.” And his teammates likely will not come to his defense. Because even they know what an unspeakable piece of shit he is.

What was the topic again?

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope the Penguins take out a good insurance policy on Crosby, because this has the makings of a Bertuzzi-type situation. I hope I’m wrong, and I’m sure Colin Campbell will be in attendance.

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the retribution will come on Crosby, especially after the way Guerin and other Pens distanced themselves from Cooke.

I think the retribution will be done against Cooke himself, maybe I’m wrong, but I think Cooke’s the marked man.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

I"m having a hard time with this one. Am I a hypocrite for hating Bertuzzi, and everyone involved in that incident, so much for the Moore assault, yet I wouldn’t mind seeing Cooke destroyed? Imo, the huge difference is that what Moore did was relatively innocous to what Cooke just did, both in terms of intent and the severity of the play. Plus Cooke has a history of being one of the most gutless cheap shot artists in the game, whereas Moore did not. Still, if someone does go Bertuzzi on Cooke, to that degree … well, it probably shouldn’t happen. Hopefully someone will just beat the daylights out of him in a fair fight … but Cooke has a history of ducking fights as well.

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you’d be a hypocrite if you wanted to see Cooke get seriously injured, but if you just want to see him get his face pounded in I’d say no.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

According to a few Tweets I got this morning…sign up the whole town of Edmonton, who called in crying for Ovie’s head, but wants to see someone injure Cooke.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

But another thought

Is that if someone does have to get seriously hurt to wake the league up about the kind of nonsense that Cooke does regularly, which is attempting to injure other players, then it may as well be Cooke. Don’t know. I just think he is such a gutless piece of shit that the league would definitely be better off without him. Too bad Colin “spineless” Campbell doesn’t see that as well.

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

How much did the Moore hit wake up the league? I think it’s going to take someone dieing, unfortunately.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good point

It didn’t. One bit. Bertuzzi should have been banned for life. And Cooke would have received at least 10 games for this latest successful attempt at injuring an opponent.

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dying by the sword.

Dying will suck because the Avs will still be playing hockey.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Mar 16, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I say that the major difference is

is that Steve Moore wasn’t penalized for his hit on Markus Naslund. Now we all know that it was a different NHL back then, but should that really be the difference?

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cooke wasn’t penalized either. But imo his hit was much worse. From behind. After a shot, not a “loose puck incident” like Moore’s was. And he made a more deliberate attempt to hit the head, imo.

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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Regardless of the type of hit, NO ONE should go through what Moore did. Period. Not even Bertuzzi himself. That would do nothing to help the league at all.

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by NurseBeachie on Mar 16, 2010 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sedin has to get consideration

Vancouver seems incredibly strong, but look at their scoring. They are 1 line and a goalie. When Daniel (the “scorer” of the twins) went down, Henrik put the team on his back and started putting the puck in the net himself. When Daniel returned, that first line just went through the roof, and Henrik didn’t slow down.

I’m actually in the Andy camp, but Sedin should get some votes. He suffers the East Coast bias as much or more than Andy does. Vancouver games start an hour after bedtime on the East Coast.

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by Busted Twigg on Mar 16, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

As much as it pains me to agree, I absolutely do. The Canucks entire first line is amazing, but I’m just not sure they as strong as a backbone as Andy is. Of course, that is my biased reply and I really don’t know enough about how their team worked this season. Those guys definitely deserve nods before Ovechkin/ Crosby though.

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on this.

Andy should win this because when Ovechkin was injured, Washington had no problems winning games. Crosby was injured before as well and Pittsburgh didn’t seem to lose a step. If Andy would get injured for a longer period, well we all know it would not end well for our Avs.

Even if one of those two doen’t win it the Professional Hockey Writers’ Association is going to take someone over Anderson.

by bosko18 on Mar 16, 2010 5:10 AM MDT reply actions  

Miller

He’s played insane all year and he plays in the East Coast, It should go to Andy but i doubt it.
Crosby plays with Malkin and he isn’t as dominant as everyone claims him to be and Ovechkins pretty much taken himself out with this suspension.
FWIW I want Miller to win more than Andy anyway, As cool as it would be to see an Avs goalie win I’m a bigger Miller fan than an Anderson fan. My top 5 is Budaj, Miller, Turco, Ward, Anderson.

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by Savage33 on Mar 16, 2010 6:03 AM MDT reply actions  

I'd give it to Ovie

Yes, the Caps can win without him but that’s not really the point – we can win without Andy too (Budaj has a 4-4 record with 2.2 GA and a .925 SV%) but we wouldn’t be in the division hunt without Andy and the Caps wouldn’t be a title contender without Ovie.

He’s the best player in the NHL in my opinion. Should Andy be in the conversation? Sure. A lot of players should – this isn’t like the NBA where it’s LeBron James, a big gap, then the rest. But Ovechkin’s the best. He makes his team, his linemates, his coach and his organisation look good, and win.

by eltharion_doa on Mar 16, 2010 7:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Actually, lately, he has made his team (both the Cap and the Russian olympic team) look like whiny babies…his coach on top of them all. Boudreau HAS to defend Ovie…but they way he goes about defending him is asinine.

I think the Hart has to go to Miller. Yes, Buffalo has Myers who is contributing, but without Miller’s play that teams sucks beyond suck

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by chiavsfan on Mar 16, 2010 7:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

But this isn’t about the best player in the league, it’s about the guy who’s been the most helpful to his team right?

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

It’s be cool to see Andy win, but honestly doesn’t this always go to somebody on the Stanley Cup winning team? It’s supposed to be the best player on a team period, but if I remember correctly it usually goes to the best player on the team who at least made it to the Finals. I love the young ‘uns, but I don’t see them making it quiiiiiiiiite that far.

by Mrs @ MHH on Mar 16, 2010 7:29 AM MDT reply actions  

That may be who it ends up going to,

but not what it’s supposed to be according to the NHL. It’s supposed to be given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. And we all know how valuable he has been to the Avs this year.

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 7:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree he’s be invaluable to the team, I just think realistically it won’t go to him based on past voting.

by Mrs @ MHH on Mar 16, 2010 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

But the voting is based on the regular season. I’m sure cup contending teams have many valuable players, but I think this award being strictly based on regular season performance could help Andy’s chances.

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

And I believe the winner is announced before the end of the playoffs, isn’t it?

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

No.

The nominees are announced, but all of the end of season awards are going to be given out after the end of the playoffs.

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, so you at least have to be nominated before the end of the playoffs.

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

the fact that Henrick Sedin isn’t getting more consideration is a shame. He’s been awesome this season (albeit lucky in the shooting % department)

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 AM MDT reply actions  

This isn’t my pick, but I just think his name should be in the conversation.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with that. He pretty much carried the Canucks when Henrik went down.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if this is a clever joke, or if you meant to say Daniel.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, brain fart…I was trying to fix it, but the computer decided to be an idiot.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who can tell them apart? I doubt even their mom can. It wouldn’t surprise me if they wake up some mornings and ask each other “Am I Daniel or Henrik?”

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by Americanario on Mar 16, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is completely random...

but one of the funniest hockey commercials I have ever seen was a few years back when someone was talking about “fantasies” and this one was about Swedish twins and they came into the hotel room and started dancing. I almost died laughing!

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s on Youtube.

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by sandiegee on Mar 16, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with that. He pretty much carried the Canucks when HenrikDaniel went down.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

…and not only did he carry the team when Daniel got hurt…he really exploded when they were hit with the Lui injury too.

I think this road trip will cost him a chance though…

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I honestly think Sedin should get it too. Without him, I doubt the Canucks are in the playoffs. But Ovie will win the points race and likely the Hart with it. Unless Miller takes it, of course.

by Dustin Burfiend on Mar 16, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I got a bad feeling it’s gonna be a toss between Crosby and AO.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

If it should go to Andy

Then it should also go to Bryzgalov. In fact, I think he has been more valuable. We have SoS leading this team. They have Doan. We have a crop of rookies including the likely Calder winner. They have…. potential star Mueller. Oh wait…..

Seriously, two of their top 5 scorers were traded for last week. Their team is under-skilled and they are possibly going to win the Jennings. I think if Andy and Bryzgalov had been slightly worse over the season, the Avs might still be in the playoff race and Phoenix would be 15th. Remember, we were a good team last year that was decimated by injuries.

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by c6hor8 on Mar 16, 2010 8:07 AM MDT reply actions  

I’ve been on the Bryzgolov bandwagon for years now. He’s a good goalie. I don’t think any goalie deserves the Hart this year (with the caveat that a goalie deserves it every seasons).

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Remember, we were a good team last year that was decimated by injuries.

I don’t agree with this. The Avs would have been “decent” maybe, but not good, even without the rash of injuries. The coaching staff made sure of that

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by chiavsfan on Mar 16, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

That is still a meh argument. We had enough talent to be a low seed in the playoffs.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm inciting the Arnason-Old Man Tucker Argument

Any team that has Arnason and Old man tucker on their top-2 lines does not have the talent to be a playoff team.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

That wouldn’t have been an issue if Sakic and SoS went down….

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

True, but they went into the season with Tucker as the 2nd line LW. And Arnason as 3rd line center.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

All part of Francois Gigure’s “toughness” policy.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly, the lineup would have been:

Hejduk-Sakic-Smyth
Wolski-SoS-Svatos
Tucker-Laperrier-Hensick

At least, that’s who I made the mistake of paying good money to see when I purchased my partial season ticket package. How was I to know injuries would kill half those guys for great chunks of the season and Svatos would go full retard and Hensick would stay Hensick?

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by Dixomatic on Mar 16, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ok not good, but certainly not 15th in the Conference. That was my point.

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by c6hor8 on Mar 16, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

much better D in front of him.

by thedoctor on Mar 16, 2010 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Way I See It

In the pool of candidates for the Hart Trophy, there’s a ton of players and good arguments.

Ovechkin: The Caps have proven they can win without him, but he’s still one of the most dynamic players in the league. It would be crazy to not mention him.

Crosby: I don’t think he’s the best player on his team, but it goes without saying, he’s the most valuable, especially with Malkin having a down year.

Henrik Sedin: The Canucks could not be where they are without him. He pretty much carried the team when Daniel went down.

Anze Kopitar: Yes, I know, he’s a long shot, but can anyone honestly say that the Kings would be where they are without him? I’d be willing to wager they aren’t even a playoff team without him.

Ryan Miller: No-brainer here. He’s carried that team this season.

Craig Andeson: The Avs have gone the way of Andy, if he’s off his game, we’re screwed…if he’s on it, well, the 7 shutouts speak for themselves.

Ilya Bryzgolov: See: Ryan Miller.

it’s a strong field, with a TON of good arguments.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:15 AM MDT reply actions  

I think Sedin is the likely winner if Miller is left out.

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by c6hor8 on Mar 16, 2010 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the road trip hurt his chances..he wasn’t that bad, but he wasn’t that good either.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sedin’s chances were hurt because he plays in Vancouver and not in the North East. He’s 2nd in PPG, and he’s actually tied for 1st in Road points.

The more I think about it, he should win the Hart. Ovechkin could compete, but he’s done some stupid things to get hurt himself (like getting suspended for 2 games for hitting Campbell, and getting 3 game misconducts). I love OV, but my MVP doesn’t get himself tossed from games. That’s hurting your team.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

You have a damn good point there, Jibbles..but I just have this sick feeling nothing matters, it’s down to Crosby and AO…

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh i agree. It’ll be Crosby and Ovechkin, because that’s who it’s going to be. If Sedin played in, say Philly he’d be touted as a legitimate candidate. Now he won’t get it at all.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s sick to say…it’s all about marketing the league…which pisses me off, cause I think Kopitar should at least get a look too…

Looking at it…no one from the Hawks or Sharks are in the convo too…you could throw in Joe Throton, but who gets it from the Hawks? Towes? Kane?

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hawks

I think the Hawks should win some of the secondary awards. They haven’t had one player become dominant, but they have a lot of really good players.

Toews is a legitimate Selke candidate, as he should be.

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 16, 2010 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kopitar?

He’s definitely the best player on a surprising team, but he pulled a disappearing act while Ryan Smyth was out.

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by Busted Twigg on Mar 16, 2010 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Duchene deserves the Calder but the argument for Andy here is weak and I can’t believe he is so far ahead in the poll.

Andy isn’t even a front-runner for the Vezina. If he isn’t the best player at his own position how can you vote him the best overall player in the league.

Also, agreed with jibbles, Sedin is having a great year. You would think hometown olympics would give him a boost with the media.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Mar 16, 2010 8:34 AM MDT reply actions  

It’s all pointless…It’s between Crosby and AO…get used to it for the next 15 years.

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

This isn’t about the best player in a position. This is about the player that is the most helpful for a team. The most valuable player for his own team. To find him, look at the team. Find the one guy on the team who is the pivotal player and take him out. Then compare all of the teams. Which one is the biggest mess? THAT team’s absentee player is the Hart trophy winner. Obviously, the team has to be doing well for anyone to consider him, but that doesn’t mean the team has to be Cup contender. I really think Andy has a decent argument for it.

And of course he won’t win it.

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by NurseBeachie on Mar 16, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think that Anderson

has been the best goalie in the league. That title belongs to Ryan Miller. I would be willing to bet a good sum of money that he wins the Vezina Trophy too.

Anderson has been FAR AND AWAY the most valuable player to his team. This year was supposed to be another underachieving year for the Avs, but with Craig Anderson starting 60 of 68 games entering Tuedaya night’s game against the Blues, being in the top 10 in save percentage while facing far and away more shots than any other goalie in the league, I think that I have a fairly legitimate argument for Craig Anderson winning the Hart Trophy.

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I gotta admit, I was a total homer in voting… I voted for Andy because I know his case is weak and he needs all the help he can get.

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by mfured20 on Mar 16, 2010 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Am I misunderstand this award?

I thought it was supposed to go to “the player who was the most valuable to his team during the regular season” (thanks Wikipedia) instead of the best overall player in the league. But I’m not really versed on the past winners and what their qualifications were. As for Ovechkin, I would also think his actions this season have more or less taken him out of the running- or perhaps that’d only be in a rational world. ;] Isn’t this the second time this season he’s been suspended? Yes he really started a surge when he was given the C but still…

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 16, 2010 9:56 AM MDT reply actions  

When was the last time a MVP award went to the played deemed most valuable to his team?

…anyone?

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by InfamousM on Mar 16, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Like someone said above,

you could make the argument that the best player in the league IS the most valuable to his team. Do you think that the Capitals win as many games as they do without Ovie scoring 62 goals? Maybe, but there is still that argument.

Also, you could make an arguement that more often than not, the most valuable player on any given team is the goalie. Unless of course you are talking about the New York Islanders and you are just playing “ring around the goalie” and don’t know who is going to start from night to night.

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by Derek B on Mar 16, 2010 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not to nitpick facts...

…but wouldn’t Anderson bring the Hart back to Denver for the first time since Forsberg in 2003?

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by BraxtanFILM on Mar 16, 2010 12:06 PM MDT reply actions  

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