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The Avs' Magic Numbers

*Warning: drowsiness-inducing numbers talk is about to take place*

In Thursday's preview, I talked about the Avalanche's magic number with Calgary as being 17; any combination of 17 points by the Avalanche or 17 available points missed by the Flames would guarantee that the Flames can't pass the Avs in the standings. It's calculated by taking the maximum number of points that the other team can attain this year and figuring how many points the Avalanche need to get to reach that level. Technically, 17 points just assures the Avs from tying the Flames, but I'm ignoring tiebreakers for now (since wins is the first one). If you want to be a stickler, add 1 to each number.

Today, I've calculated the magic number for all the teams. I'm including teams above the Avalanche in the standings, as they Avs can technically still catch each of them. And I'm including the Oilers because I know Derek Zona from Copper & Blue will be reading at some point today. But, really, this really just boils down to the Avs clinching a playoff spot. Once the magic number for 6 more teams drops to zero, the Avalanche are in (again, with the tiebreaker disclaimer above applying).

 

Rank Team GP W L OT PTS GR MaxPts Magic #
1 San Jose 69 43 16 10 96 13 122 36
2 Chicago 69 44 19 6 94 13 120 34
3 Vancouver 70 43 24 3 89 12 113 27
4 Phoenix 70 43 22 5 91 12 115 29
5 Colorado 70 40 24 6 86 12
6 Los Angeles 68 40 23 5 85 14 113 27
7 Nashville 70 39 26 5 83 12 107 21
8 Detroit 69 34 23 12 80 13 106 20
9 Calgary 70 35 26 9 79 12 103 17
10 Minnesota 69 34 29 6 74 13 100 14
11 St. Louis 69 32 28 9 73 13 99 13
12 Dallas 69 30 26 13 73 13 99 13
13 Anaheim 69 32 29 8 72 13 98 12
14 Columbus 70 28 31 11 67 12 91 5
15 Edmonton 70 21 42 7 49 12 73

 

Standings were grabbed before the start of play last night. So, with the Wild's loss last night to Nashville, the Avs' magic number against Minnesota drops to 12.

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Minnesota lost. As did LA. Phoenix and Vancouver (don’t want to play them) won.

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Mar 19, 2010 8:04 AM MDT reply actions  

LA losing is probably the most important thing right now

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

They didn’t look good last night. Neither did we, but still. I would love a first round series against the Coyotes.

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Mar 19, 2010 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

the lesser of 4 evils

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah LA played a tired and hurty Blackhawks team and really wet the bed. They looked awful

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by chiavsfan on Mar 19, 2010 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Every team seems to look tired

I am on a vacation house where I get nhl network and i have been watching it all day. All these teams look sloppy and exhausted. Maybe the season is wearing on them finally.

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Mar 19, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

or they aren’t rebounding well from the break?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

good point.

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Mar 19, 2010 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Could be. I’d like to see teams that were on a roll before the break…how they have fared. Just looking at the schedule on my wall here

The Hawks went into the break winning 4 in a row…have been a .500 team since,

The Avs won 4 of 5 heading into the break, and have also been a .500 team since

Small sample size, but those two were right there for me

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by chiavsfan on Mar 19, 2010 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

am I the only one who thinks a series against the Coyotes is virtually guaranteed to end with Wolski scoring the series winner? I’m not entirely sure I want that.

by some white guy on Mar 19, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

A series with Phoenix would be great. Neither team has a lot of playoff experience. With the addition of Yelle, we clearly have more, but both goalies have to prove something. I like our chances with our ability to rebound in games.

However, we have 12 points to go. Then I will postulate. I will say that getting that 5 seed may be as important as a playoff spot at this point.

Avalanche 2009-2010: Ostensibly, the worst team in the league. Realistically, more points than the Flames and Wings. But hey, your Corsi number is better.

by c6hor8 on Mar 19, 2010 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree about the 5 seed, and it is absolutely within reach. I will reiterate what I’ve been saying: Quick is not going to play well down the stretch. He’s a young kid with a new baby. He’s not handling it well and will continue to have probs with it.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have absolutely no doubt it would be a great series. But if/when Wolski scores the series winner, its going to leave a real bitter taste.

by some white guy on Mar 19, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

then I guess Mueller will need to get a hat trick to wash that bad taste out of your mouth.

Colorado Avalanche: Aiming for Magic #31 - 31 points in 28 games. 18 points in 14 games; 13 points to go!

by hockeymom on Mar 19, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

My name is Beachie

and I approve of this statement.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome to first grade math.

In 3 weeks we begin to learn to count to 4.

by '96 Avs Bandwagon on Mar 19, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

16!

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Come on, DDC. There’s a learning curve!

First we make it to 4. Then try for 8, then 12, then 16. Can’t teach double digits on the first day :p

by '96 Avs Bandwagon on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

uno, dos, tres, catorce.

Steve Moore’s last act as a hockey player was beating Matt Cooke’s ass, which makes him a great great person.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 19, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who even knows the definition of irony anyway?

The Avs have spent the season making a mockery of the view that advanced stats are effective at predicting the future.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

ah, the ironing is delicious.

Steve Moore’s last act as a hockey player was beating Matt Cooke’s ass, which makes him a great great person.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 19, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Phoenix is now within 3 points of San Jose. Who the fuck saw that coming? It is looking like 5th is about the best we can hope for now. And a first round series against Phoenix would be interesting to say the least. Remember, Dave Tippett is the only NHL coach to ever lose a playoff series to Tony Granato as a head coach. I’ve always thought Tippett was overrated … but the job he’s done in Phoenix has been amazing.

Jibbles is an older man so you can trust what he says.

by Bob in Boulder on Mar 19, 2010 10:30 AM MDT reply actions  

i’m thinking that coach of the year award is pretty locked up at this point…

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

If you look back to TIppet’s record, he is really good in his first year. And the years that follows, as long as he has veteran players, he is fine. He is not good with rookies, youngsters who undoubtly need more instructions and patience.

With Phoenix getting younger in a season or two ( they have to play their top picks, right?) I could see Tippet pull a Hitch in the future.

by lostpuck on Mar 19, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

He is not good with rookies, youngsters who undoubtly need more instructions and patience.


See Meuller, Peter. aka, Ferris.

Which is why I think he’ll do better with the Avs and won’t drop into the sulk mode Phx fans say he will. Sacco is a player’s coach, esp with the young guns.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

If Phoenix somehow wins the Western Conference I will be stunned (but happy enough)

by HugoAgogo on Mar 19, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

So far San Jose is crapping the bed tonight against Calgary, if they don’t get their act together Chicago is going to win the West and Phoenix is going to be #2.

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by Americanario on Mar 19, 2010 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

or #4

Steve Moore’s last act as a hockey player was beating Matt Cooke’s ass, which makes him a great great person.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 19, 2010 11:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Numbers! :[

Hey this is OT but I’m pretty sure that since Wolski got traded Phoneix has had three shoot outs and he’s gotten saved in every one.

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 19, 2010 11:36 AM MDT reply actions  

again

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by Ben from Portland on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

what does that mean?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s a shirt from a bar in Wisconsin… It always reminds me of Wolski’n around the zone and loosing the puck

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by Ben from Portland on Mar 19, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Vancouver

When Raycroft starts, the magic number jumps to 420

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Mar 19, 2010 12:46 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Off Topic

Has Jones ever had a hat trick?

The Avs have spent the season making a mockery of the view that advanced stats are effective at predicting the future.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 1:21 PM MDT reply actions  

nope. 2 2-goal games

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

gotcha...

thx….so again off topic…this is what I’m thinking about bringing to the games this weekend since Mack Truck will most likely not be playing and that plan is out the window…

Thoughts? Additions? Changes? I was going to put the guys’ #s on the blank side but it was getting too busy.

The Avs have spent the season making a mockery of the view that advanced stats are effective at predicting the future.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 19, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

its awesome

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 19, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like it!

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by gl avfan on Mar 19, 2010 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've got some numbers for you right here: 2.

as in the number of middle fingers I’ll be flipping to all of the people who called the avs a fluke, yet they some how made the playoffs on April 11. I may flip off some kings players, but I don’t really have any hatred for any of them, so probably not.

Steve Moore’s last act as a hockey player was beating Matt Cooke’s ass, which makes him a great great person.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 19, 2010 2:30 PM MDT reply actions  

OT

But why are all of Beachie’s comment threads greyed out?

by Mrs @ MHH on Mar 19, 2010 3:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Apparently

she got banned for a throttle violation, which deleted all of her posts and has turned all of her comments into these bizarre gray boxes.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 19, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

:(

Sandie

"We called him Clark Kent because away from the rink, he was just a nerd. Then he'd go into the Colorado dressing room and put on his Avs jersey, and all of a sudden he was Super Joe"- Theo Fleury

by sandiegee on Mar 19, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

What’s a throttle violation, and how scared is JM-Liles right now?

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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 19, 2010 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lame ass stupid fucking SB Nation mother fuckers.

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 3:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Don’t hold back honey, tell us how you really feel.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Mar 19, 2010 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

PREACH

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 19, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

So did my poster for the Kings and Ducks game get deleted? I can’t see any of my posts, but the Mrs says they’re greyed out….

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 4:22 PM MDT reply actions  

I can’t see any either

Sandie

"We called him Clark Kent because away from the rink, he was just a nerd. Then he'd go into the Colorado dressing room and put on his Avs jersey, and all of a sudden he was Super Joe"- Theo Fleury

by sandiegee on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

prob when you refresh the page everything goes kaput. lame lame lame. anyway, here’s my poster for the game:

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

gameS

gonna bring it to both…unless someone gets a hattie at the Ducks, then I will alter it and put the guy’s face on it for the Kings game!

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Sandie

"We called him Clark Kent because away from the rink, he was just a nerd. Then he'd go into the Colorado dressing room and put on his Avs jersey, and all of a sudden he was Super Joe"- Theo Fleury

by sandiegee on Mar 19, 2010 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

and I’m gonna wear a cowboy hat to throw on the ice if someone gets one!

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Please do this.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 19, 2010 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

you have to help me find a hat on sunday!!

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 19, 2010 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Deal!

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 19, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

That looks awesome! You should blow it up poster sized!

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 19, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m going to! About the same size as the one you did in fact

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: More than just luck

by Beachie on Mar 20, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I approve of this. Please continue.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Mar 20, 2010 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Around the NHL

Tonight the BJ’s (14th) slowed the Wild’s (11th) climb into the playoff race beating them 4-2.
 
The fLames (9th) beat the slumping Sharks (2nd) 4-3 and move ahead of the RedWings at least for a few hours.

Detroit (8th) scores with less then a second left to take the Oilers (15th) to OT, who else but Rafalski. The Oilers take the game in the SO but the damage is done as the Wings receive a point they didn’t deserve and are tied with the fLames. Detroit still has a game in hand, so they remain in the 8th spot.

Tavares has a goal and an assist as the Isles lead the Ducks (13th) 4-3 in the 3rd.

MHH: The Burgundy Army is on the March!

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 19, 2010 10:21 PM MDT reply actions  

I wonder if the Sharks already think it’s playoff time hence the slump? Nothing against the team but I’d love them to start the annual choke early so we have a chance against them in our upcoming games! (I’ve got tickets to one and if I end up 1 for 7 this season I’m going to be so bummed out!!!)

by xskatebakerrx on Mar 19, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

’BJ’s’ hee hee.

Steve Moore’s last act as a hockey player was beating Matt Cooke’s ass, which makes him a great great person.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 19, 2010 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ducks score with 32 seconds left to tie the game and then score 14 seconds into OT to win the game.

MHH: The Burgundy Army is on the March!

I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.

by Americanario on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 PM MDT reply actions  

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