Game 64 Preview: Avalanche at Coyotes
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 4, 2010 9:01 AM MST
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| Colorado Avalanche |
7 MT / 9 ET / 2 GMT |
Phoenix Coyotes |
| 36-21-6 | March 4th, 2010 |
37-22-5 |
| 78 pts | Jobing.com Arena |
79 pts |
| 6th in West |
Glendale, AZ | 5th in West |
Full disclosure: I'm writing this on Wednesday night before the puck drops on the Ducks' game. I have no idea if the Avalanche rebounded from the dismal outing on Monday, or if Craig Anderson suffered a season-ending injury or if Peter Mueller scored 7 goals in his Avalanche debut.
None of it matters, though. Regardless of how last night played out, the Avalanche need wins. They especially need wins against teams directly above them in the standings, such as...the Phoenix Coyotes. Yes, this will be Wolski's first game in a Coyote's uniform and it comes against his old club. Yes, it will be Mueller's first game against his old club, in his old arena. And, I'm figuring, it will be Stephane Yelle's first game as an Avalanche (sorry about the unipron, Stephane). But tonight's game isn't really about new faces or tiebreakers or momentum or even revenge against Martin Hanzal for giving Kyle Cumiskey a concussion with his douchetacular last-minute boarding penalty the last time these teams met. It is simply about the Avalanche needing 2 points.
The Avalanche will yet again be playing in the 2nd half of back-to-back games tonight, but they should be used to that by now. If not, they're going to be in trouble as 10 of their final 20 games are in a set of back-to-backs (and 9 of those 10 games are on the road). Eek.
I'm confident the Avalanche will tonight, though. They'll have some extra incentive to do so: a birthday win for our fearless leader Joe.
Dustin is on recap duty tonight. Go Avs!
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of those back to back only 2 are vs teams sub .500 (StL and Edm)
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GO AVs GO
All i know is I can’t wait to see what Sacco does with the lineup tonight. This should be interesting.
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
Yelle! That’s all I care about.
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
I am hoping
that he comes to his senses and doesn’t scratch Kyle Quincey again. Still not really sure what that was all about.
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agree with the good doctor.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 4, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Win it for Joe!!! Or he’ll sue you
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by chiavsfan on Mar 4, 2010 9:09 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Prediction 1-1
Not the score, odds that Wolski has a goal tonight
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Why not? Tanguay always torched us
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Truth. Hey, maybe that’s why he sucks in the East?
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
I’ll take those odds, even with Wolski being waaaaaay overdue to score a goal, what with his 1 goal in 26 games when shooting against a goalie.
For anyone who missed it, Mark Rycroft said Wolski’s not a good locker room guy, and he thought this was a great move. You may or may not like Mark Rycroft, but as an ex-player and someone close to the Avs organization, he’s much better qualified than any of us are to talk about Wolski’s affect on this team, especially off the ice.
Also, this is unverified because I didn’t see it, but apparently Anaheim’s announcers said that Wolski was complaining about ice time (presumably his lack of) and he said that the coaches didn’t like him. It wasn’t clear if he was referring to this particular coaching staff, or the other two coaching staffs he played under who also benched him sometimes. Maybe he meant coaches in general.
This one’s beginning to look like addition by subtraction to me, plus we got an exciting young asset in Mueller and another potential asset in Porter.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
Agree about Rycroft. It surprised me a little when he said that, but I could certainly see it. I don’t always like what he has to say, but his opinion here is a lot more informed than any of ours.
The more I read about the behind-the-scenes it’s probably best Wolski is gone. I still think that they could have gotten more for him though.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
I also watch the Go Locker Room Report
and think that it’s a shame that Rycroft wasn’t able to play with the Avs for longer than he did. He is definitely not the most skilled guy, but he is definitely a heart and soul guy.
Right now, I am going to be heading up the Mueller Fan Club because I was able to watch him play Junior hockey out here in Washington State. I think that last night was refreshing to see someone shoot the puck at the net from the point while we were on the passing drill. Even though it was only a weak wrist shot, it was deflected by a Ducks d-man and it went it. That wouldn’t have happened with Wolski back there because he would have just sent it around the boards. Let’s also put this out there, had Johnny Hot Pocket made that tremendous diving play to keep the puck in the zone, none of this happens. Maybe him not being traded woke him up a little bit. Here’s to hoping anyways.
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Let’s also put this out there, had Johnny Hot Pocket NOT made that tremendous diving play to keep the puck in the zone, none of this happens
fixed
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 4, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
Last year
If I remember correctly, Liles rebounded very well after a previous (last year) trade deadline passed.
My gut feeling is that Wolski will end up being for Phoenix what he has been for Colorado: inconsistent. He won’t be that great draft coup people think he is. In fact, I’m betting on the Avs coming out on the better end of this deal in the long run.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 4, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
Meaningful silence?
Is it just me, or isn’t it traditional post trade fodder for the papers to hear teammates lament the loss of of “____er” or “____ey”. Unless I missed it somewhere, Wolski’s departure seems to have evoked a cacaphony of crickets.
It is altitating (Altitude+irritating) to hear nothing but glowing reports about a guy who, it turns out wasn’t popular on OR behind the bench.
I think
that the bigger question than who will score a goal against their old team first, is who will pass the puck to their old team first.
Wolski passes to Stewie who promptly scores.
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Who knows?
He could score, players often score in their first game with a team, even in the midst of a slump (like Mueller). Interesting thing I was looking at though: Wolski has scored 9 goals since his October outburst of 8, which I think is pretty weak for someone who should be (in my opinion) at the top of our goal scorers. Since October, these players on the Avs have more goals than him (assuming my quick stats check was right):
Chris Stewart (more than double)
Matt Duchene (more than double I think also)
Brandon Yip (way less games)
Milan Hejduk (way less games)
T.J. Galiardi (…and Stastny is only one behind Wolski with 8)He’s supposed to be a goal scorer, I could have sworn. Sixth on our team since October is very, very weak. Less than 3 goals a month since October, on average.
healthy scratch prediction? lol i reeealy hope the avs can actually show up for the 1st period tonight. it would be nice to not have to yell at the tv so much.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
Marilyn, is that you?
I thought you were dead.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
Are they going to call up porter?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:11 AM MST reply actions
And put him where?
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
give him #16 and let him go. But then again this team thinks tucker is worth something…
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Veteran leader and mentor.
As much as I hate the way he falls down all the time, Ryan O’Reilly has specifically called him out as being a great mentor.
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and hopefully he will say the same things about Yelle.
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I don’t think I want Darcy Tucker mentoring Radar on anything except how to be a good guy off the ice (which I’ve heard Tucker is.)
I agree with everyone hoping Yelle can fill that position even better.
by xskatebakerrx on Mar 4, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
O’Reilly isn’t the only one. Stewie and I think Yip have also mentioned him specifically.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
As much as I'd like to see that happen
I don’t see them doing that.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
see below, I’m now scared of that, I wish I’d never had that thought, but now that I’ve had it it can’t go away.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly, drawing parallels to Wolski, Tucker has not been very productive scoring wise, although because he’s on a lower line expectations are lowered. However, off this ice all you hear from the young players and coaches is how Tuckers locker room presence and experience has been important to the team. Meanwhile, we heard nothing about Wolski’s presence in the locker room, although compared to most of the players on the avs he could be considered a veteran.
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He certainly would be.
I am so freaking happy about Yeller.
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
Loving the Free Center Ice Preview
Get to watch this game on TV before work. Last night’s game reminded me of that beautiful ATL game where we had NO BUSINESS coming back. Gratz Mueller on your first goal, hoping for more to come tonight.
GO AVS!
Darcy Tucker: Is this team going to resign him? I would say no, but this team keeps running him out there every night and giving him pretty good minutes, and that is because…well…I don’t know but they do keep running him out. I think there is a good chance they’ll resign him unless he retires himself.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 AM MST reply actions
How?
Stewart, Mueller, Hejduk, Jones, Yip, Hendricks are all RWs (or Centers pushed to RW). We definitely are not bringing back Svatos and I just don’t see how we can play Tucker next season either.
by MalachiConstant on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
I agree, but if he’s not in your plans why are they giving him so much ice time?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Leadership, now that Yelle is here I think they may cut back. (That’s my hope anyway)
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
There’s pretty much no chance in hell they re-sign him. He’s just not good enough any more, and I think there’s a pretty good chance that he’ll retire after this season. He’s got two eyes, I’m sure he’s aware just as much as we are that he gets knocked around alot by younger, stronger guys out there.
I think the reason they keep putting him out there is because the team’s so young and he’s one of the few veterans and who else should they put out there instead of him?
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
I hhave very little issue with how Tucker has been used this year. I hated him a lot more when he was being forced into a second line role and wasn’t getting ti done.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
maybe it's just me
but I think this is the exact reason they brought Yelle back – because Tucker will be gone and they need a veteran to guide the kids. What a great guy to bring in for that job, IMO.
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You think the Avs will keep Yelle next year? Hmm…not so sure about that.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
I kinda view this as Yelle’s last hurrah, and “retiring with the team” kind of thing.
I don’t think Yelle will be back. I’m going to enjoy 20 final games + playoffs, of him though.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
hope Foote returns then
because that leaves The Duke and old man Stastny as the vets.
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that’s what i was thinking too. we’ll have a lot of retirees coming up tho…footer, duke, yeller, foppa…
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Yelle still has a house here, and he has a special relationship to Pierre, kinda. His wife and Eric L’s wife are sisters, so he still has a ton of local ties. I would not be surprised to see him resigned one more year here.
Thanks Joe...
What are the odds that Wolski decides to tie his skates tight and actually play his guts out tonight?
I’d say Wolski nets a goal or two, or the game goes to a SO and Wolski gets the game winner.
I’d rather not see this happen, but former Avs players always have success against them.
Yes, I think he will have the best game we have seen him have all year. The question will be if he can sustain it.
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
I agree. For more information, see Mueller, Peter.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 4, 2010 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
I’d like to answer that question! If he hasn’t been able to sustain consistent production and effort in 317 NHL games, my best answer is that, after his initial burst of productivity with Phoenix, he will go back to his old, inconsistent, floaty ways.
The thing he’s been most consistent about is his ability to find the doghouse of 3 different coaches. I’d bet he’ll eventually make it four.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Just take Selanne last night. Yes the Avs still came out with a win but Selanne had a great game against them.
"I can make it on my own!"
Hmmm,
not sure that I agree that he had a great game. He had a decent game. He scored a goal in which he was a mile offsides for. He even looked he was only playing half speed on the play because he knew that he was offside. Such is life though, I am not bitter about the goal because I am fairly certain that we scored a similar goal against the Wings on Monday night.
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Yeah you’re right great was the wrong word. I guess the point I was trying to make is ex Avalanche players always find ways to get points against us when they do play us.
"I can make it on my own!"
Agree with that 100%
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To quote myself:
"
What are the odds that Wolski decides to tie his skates tight and actually play his guts out tonight?
I’d say Wolski nets a goal or two, or the game goes to a SO and Wolski gets the game winner.
I’d rather not see this happen, but former Avs players always have success against them."
LOL. Total jinx. May not have been in OVERTIME or the shootout, but Wolski was the reason they lost.
Just too update the posting:
The Avs did win last night which makes the battle between these two teams tonight even more important. The Coyotes sit in the 5th spot with 79pts and have a game in hand on the Avs who are 6th with 78pts. A win by the Avs puts them in that 5th spot and ties them once again with the Canuckleheads. I really don’t want the Avs to sit in that 6th spot where they would have to play the Nucks in the playoffs, nor would I want the Nucks in 6th if the Avs win the division. A win tonight would also tie the Avs with the Kings, who sit in 4th with 80pts, if the Kings were to lose to the Preds (7th = 73pts. A Preds win win not change the standings, but it will make the standings a little tighter.
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The Avs have a game in hand, don’t they? This is a huge game. A must lose.
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by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
I hate being distracted while I’m typing, darn students, why can’t they just stay in their seats. :-)
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by Americanario on Mar 4, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
God, they are so freaking annoying.
Sandie
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by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Seriously, They complain about not learning anything in class, so you give them work and they whine and moan about having work (in class or homework). If you don’t give them work they complain about class being boring. They want to play game, but when you play games its “this game is stupid” or “I don’t want to play today”.
Make up your damn minds already….that is if you actually have one.
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The ONLY reason
I would want the Avs to play the Canuckleheads in the playoffs is because I would make the 5 hour drive from Seattle to Vancouver to those playoff games. :-)
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5 hours?
Has the border gotten that much worse? Seems to me it used to be around 3 when I lived in the Seattle area and went up for Canuck games. I caught one of the playoff games in 1996. It was awesome.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
The border has become pretty bad.
The line is all the way back to the Arch monument consistently and they now ask 20 questions about why you are going up there. Even if you have a passport. Also with the Olympics just being there, it is even worse!!
I also live in Bremerton so I have to hop a ferry to get across the water.
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That ferry ride adds a good hour. I went to a Navy conference in Bremerton a few years ago. Was great to be back in the area. It was late July/early August so I was able to watch the Blue Angels practice for Sea Fair out of Boeing Field one day.
Miss the northwest. But Seattle isn’t much of a hockey town, is it?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
The ferry from Bremerton to Seattle is an hour.
Seattle isn’t much of a hockey town at all unfortunately. I go up to Everett every weekend to watch the Silvertips (WHL) and they have a rabid following. So I at least to go up there and be a part of that. Earlier this year they set a franchise record with 15 wins in a row. They routinely draw 6,200 people for games. Plus, you can’t argue with sitting 3 rows from the glass behind the net for only $22.
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Miss the northwest. But Seattle isn’t much of a hockey town, is it?
1. If you miss the Northwest so much, you should move back. One less car clogging up Highway 36.
2. Denver’s not much of a hockey town, either. At least that’s the impression I got when I heard the thunderous cheers after the Red Wings goals the other night.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
1. You know I love Colorado more. And don’t get me started on traffic in Seattle.
2. There were too many RW fans at the game, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as last season. They are vocal sons of bitches, though. However, the Av crowd was good as well. I’m hoping this stretch run will bring folks back. I certainly haven’t seen Kroenke’s bunch do a damn thing to try to capitalize on how they are doing, the Olympics, or anything, for that matter. Do they fricken have a marketing department?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
I think Denver’s a pretty good hockey town. A good Avalanche town? That’s the question, haha.
by xskatebakerrx on Mar 4, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
PS:
Monday night, the crowd even got the “Red Wings Suck” chant going a few times. I’m sure Terry Frei was rolling in his grave … what, he’s not dead yet?
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
I heard that chant before the opening faceoff!
It was amazing!
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You should have heard...
The Red Wings Suck
Chant at Brooklyn’s after the game.
We ran the triumphant Wings fans out of there pretty quick.
Proud Soldier in the Burgandy Brigade.
"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles
It was pretty sweet! and the anti Red Wings Chants were definately loud enough to drown out the Go Red Wings chants in our section at least.
And at least Avs Fans aren’t Douchy enough to yell "GO____ " during the National Anthem. That Pisses me off Sooooooooooo Much.
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Yeah, although I did really want to yell “Fuck Crosby” during the anthem, I held off. Rooting for your team during the anthem is uber douchey.
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I have one request for the Avs tonight beyond the usual "plz win kthx"
It’s actually specifically for Ryan Wilson: I want to see you blow Wolski up with a clean hit.
It’s almost inevitable that Wolski will score tonight as well, I agree with everyone. We’re going to get motivated Wolski without a doubt.
I’m more worried that last night, and probably tonight, was “Motivated Mueller”. I thought he played well, egregious penalty not withstanding, but I’m hoping this is his wake-up call and not just a temporary motivation.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Doc, you probably saw one of Rycroft’s keys to tonight’s game: Punish Wolski. He said everyone knows Wolski doesn’t like to get hit, so the Avs have to hit him.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
i did
and i love Rycroft (as a commentator) so much. I really want Wilson to leave a message from his former teammates and the fans.
did you catch Clough’s analysis of things, Dan? His thoughts were even more damning — basically centering on that the locker room was very frustrated with Wolski’s play and effort, even more so than the coaches and fans. Combined with Rycroft’s in-the-room agreement, sounds like we could have some addition by subtraction occurring.
wow
If the players are upset with him, that’s bringing in bad mojo. Bad mojo is not good.
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by NurseBeachie on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
I didn’t hear Clough’s comments because I don’t listen to sport radio any more. I miss him on the Altitude postgame, although Rycroft has done a really good job.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Hockey players, as boring and cliched as they are, talk about two things all the time – playing for each other, and not having any passengers. I can’t imagine that the guys who bust their asses all the time would be thrilled with a guy who doesn’t.
Of course, winning cures a lot of those problems, and some pretty famous floaters have found happy homes because their talent usually compensates for their lack of effort. But it’s obviously been a habit with him, and once he stopped putting up the numbers I’m sure it became more and more frustrating.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
See Alexi Kovalev and Marian Hossa.
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Whoa, Hossa? I had always heard good things about him, especially the fact that he’s responsible in both ends. Now, Martin Havlat, OTOH …
Acquired from Pensburgh for a first round pick and two comment posters to be named later.
Hossa might not be as big of a floater as the others
but you are right about Havlat, oh and he is made of glass too!
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Talking to the guys at Blackhawks games I have heard nothing but praise for Hossa. How hard he works at both ends of the ice, and how good of a locker room guy he is. I have been in the locker-room with the Hawks now 7 times this year, and someone is always joking with him.
Idiot contract move (and inserting his foot into his mouth with the “Detroit is a better team” ordeal) and all…I don’t see anything bad with Hossa.
Havlat…I did have some respect for. Until he started his Twitter crybaby crap in the off-season….respect gone
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If Clough’s right… doesn’t this make everyone like the current team that much more.
I can’t remember following such an utterly likable team in my entire like. Maybe the ’96 Avs.
Of course, Rycroft and Clough’s comments are stuff we’d love to hear BEFORE these trades happen.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Of course, Rycroft and Clough’s comments are stuff we’d love to hear BEFORE these trades happen.
Probably harder to trade if word got out before hand.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
But NHL guys would already know this. The rumors would have spread to every scout in the league.
Of course, maybe this is why the Avs didn’t get enough for him.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
wasn’t there alot of talk towards the end of last season about some guys that just gave up? seems like I recall some comment from Laperriere about that…. wonder if WW was in the middle of that. Pure speculation, but a curiosity
AD
Posted some stuff about guys not giving a rip and joking around after bad losses. Never gave any names, of course, which is understandable.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
Of course, Rycroft and Clough’s comments are stuff we’d love to hear BEFORE these trades happen.
I can’t agree with this more. Drives me absolutely crazy how the media are such experts after the fact. I know it’s a fine line – you can be one of those guys who constantly rips players and is always complaining about something, or you can say nothing and then after Player X is gone come out with the reasons why it was an obvious move.
To be fair, Rycroft wasn’t gentle with Wolski earlier in the season. And I don’t know what Clough said about the guy, so maybe those guys feel they were direct about Wolski, although the strongest comments seem to have come out after the trade.
And I don’t think Wolski is the Worst Teammate Ever or anything like that, just that he didn’t really fit in with this group of guys, who are, as Jibs points astutely points out, an extremely likable bunch. This season’s been nothing but a pleasant surprise.
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
Have I ever mentioned that I hate the Coyotes?
Haha, no but really, fuck Hanzal. I hope that douchelord drops the gloves with Hendricks and gets the shit beat out of him.
A motivated Wolski (I agree it’s inevitable) will bum me out so I hope we try extra hard to make sure he doesn’t do anything good. A motivated Mueller will negate my bummed out feelings. It’s not that I don’t want Wolski to succeed to Phoenix, I want people to shut up about us getting the raw end of the deal- which I don’t think we did.
And whose birthday is it?
It's Joe's birthday.
I want McLeod to have a little toe-to-toe with Hanzal.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Haha whoops I totally missed that in the article- HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE!
And I forgot about Higlanders suburb fighting skills. He will also be a good contender to knock the shit out of Hanzal.
by xskatebakerrx on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
And I forgot about Higlanderssuburbsuperb fighting skills. He will also be a good contender to knock the shit out of Hanzal.
Fixed. Just FYI, Highlander can rock it downtown, in the suburbs or out in the country. Just bring it! ;-P
/grammar wiener off
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Haha, that is what I get for being on here and writing a 20 page environmental politics paper at the same time. My brain hurts!
by xskatebakerrx on Mar 4, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
Suburb fighting skills?
I bet he honed them fighting those pesky middle class teenage kids with their pants around their ankles. Probably fought them at the mall or in front of Blockbuster.
superb ;-)
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Sorry had to through my Mighty Ducks line in there.
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
Sorry had tothroughthrow my Mighty Ducks line in there.
repaired.
Sorry but I just got bad news and am in a very pissy mood all of the sudden.
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Won’t know for a couple of day or weeks but I maybe losing my current job/position. I won’t necessarily be out of work, but I’d have to switch schools and that mean going back to a 90 minute commute to and from work. Losing 3 hours of my life everyday again. My wife is also in the same boat, meaning we could be losing money (pay cuts), yet having to quadruple our gas budgets as well as the wear and tear on our vehicles; and time away from our kids.
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Shitty
sorry man. That sucks
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Welcome to the world of the current economy. In my county here in Illinois they are cutting teaching positions and pay left and right. Also hiking kids “activity fees” and what not. Of course it doesn’t help when you state school payments are nearly a year behind schedule…and the state is 13-billion dollars in the hole due to your previous Governor (who has no been indicted on corruption charges)
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The worst part Chi is that I went through all this shit last year. They told me I was gone only to come back 2 weeks later and say, “Hey we found some money in our budget and you get to stay”.
Our governor is an idiot also, but the school district is run by a bigger bunch of idiots. Maybe I should get a job in the maintenance dept. They never get cut and it take them six weeks to put a screw in the wall.
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I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
This is all kinda scary
because after I get out of the Navy I plan on being a teacher. Not sure if I wanna teach at a public school or private school. I plan on being a high school history teacher.
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No the President is from Chicago…but came from the same corrupt district as every corrupt Chicago politician, and brought some of them with him.
Our former Governor is the bonehead you see on TV all the time with the bad hair, claiming he’s done nothing wrong ever, even though they have him bribing people on wire-tap.
Our Governor before him (to be equal opportunity, a Republican) is currently serving jail time, also for corruption.
Really, this is a great state to live in…which is why I am glad I live by the Wisconsin border, because we may move the 5 minutes up there. (though they seem to shadow everything we do down here)
As for our school systems…they are just as dopey AM.
2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!
Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
I lived in Obama’s state legislative district for a couple years. Used to see him and his family around quite often.
Blagojevich is just mind numbingly stupid and corrupt. He played politics with the funding for a non-profit I used to work for. I got tired of it and moved to Colorado.
by MalachiConstant on Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
He played politics with a Children’s Hospital for goodness sakes…nothing was out of bounds for that guy
2009-10 Colorado Avalanche: The wheels are firmly secure thank you!
Advice to Red Wing Fans: If you don't want the reputation of being whiners, then stop whining about EVERYTHING. Your team is allowed to lose games, and when they do, it's not always because of the refs or Gary Bettman, and you seem to continuously claim
I have toyed with the idea of teaching as well. But at this point it would most likely be at the community college level if I took a more traditional role. Or possibly try working at one of those companies that do workshops and “boot camps” at the corporate level. I would not want to test the waters in today’s public schools.
There are two ways of being happy: We must either diminish our wants or augment our means - either may do - the result is the same and it is for each man to decide for himself and to do that which happens to be easier.
- Benjamin Franklin
from one teacher to a prospective one...
don’t do it. seriously.
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Sorry to hear that. Good old Obama and budget cuts. Schools in VA are about to lose 50+ Million in budgets and my ex wants to put our son in them when they are closing schools down i want him in school in NC where class sizes are small and budget cuts aren’t happening.
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
i'm not gonna go there...
but i’m going to say this: the crises in our schools are not a result of one administration’s decisions.
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crap.
that so sucks. sorry sweets. = (
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Thats Craptastic.
I’m Sorry Canary. I hope it all works out.
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me too
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Mar 4, 2010 4:36 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks guys but this day got worse about an hour ago. I came home after practice just wanting to sit on the couch, turn on some hockey and relax. But nope, I sit down hit the power button on my laptop and…..nothing….
I seriously started to cry. My desktop is still down because I haven’t had a chance to take it to have someone look at it. I just replaced the hard drive in the laptop a few months ago, and know it’s not working ago (I think it’s a power problem)
The only reason I’m here tonight is my dad recently got a new laptop for father’s day, while his old laptop was being repaired. He loaned my his old one for a few days, or until I ruin it since everything I touch the last two days goes to hell. I’m seriously thinking of sleeping on the couch so I don’t risk my wife and unborn child.
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I'm The Canary - but I'm not cute nor cuddly, and I don't sing.
Oh my goodness Canary. I’m sorry you are having a rough go of it. A seriously rough go. I hope the next few days get better.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
Who is in goal tonight?
Just kidding.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
I thought he was on first!
/don’t worry kids, most of you won’t get that.
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Yeah but WHO do you make the check out to?
Come on now that is a classic!!!
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
BS!! I'm 19 and I get that!
And no, What’s on first. Who’s on second.
No such thing as a hockey fan... only hockey fanatics!
GO AVS!!!
The more I come to this site the older I feel.
There are two ways of being happy: We must either diminish our wants or augment our means - either may do - the result is the same and it is for each man to decide for himself and to do that which happens to be easier.
- Benjamin Franklin
hehe, it depends on who it is… i’m thinking i’m probably somewhere in the middle at 28 later this month
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
Which explains the feeling old part. As I am mid-30’s
There are two ways of being happy: We must either diminish our wants or augment our means - either may do - the result is the same and it is for each man to decide for himself and to do that which happens to be easier.
- Benjamin Franklin
old fart.
for the record, i am 27. soon i will be shaking my fist at these whippersnappers (one of my fave words, can’t wait to get old and use it properly) too.
Uggghhh
turned 30 a few weeks back.
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by Jibblescribbits on Mar 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
don’t worry, at some point you’ll become as old and experienced and mature as I am at 37.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
I’m a younger, I’m 25 but in my second of College so I constantly feel old. Seriously I had to explain the Smurfs to a guy the other day when I was working on making my Stroumphette with the Avs logo.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 4:24 PM MST up reply actions
I remember when they had the prime time special for the debut of the show.
There are two ways of being happy: We must either diminish our wants or augment our means - either may do - the result is the same and it is for each man to decide for himself and to do that which happens to be easier.
- Benjamin Franklin
I watched it in French and they used the word “maudit” in the opening song. I was shocked when I started conversing in English and people made a big deal of “swear” words.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
27 in April. I was thinking of getting a Duchene jersey in the near future, but feel like it’s just weird wearing the name of kid almost a decade younger than me.
by MalachiConstant on Mar 4, 2010 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
It’s only a matter of time / money for the Duchene jersey. But all I have for now is Sakic jerseys. He was my idol from the moment I started watching sports. It’s just weird going from a role model and heroic figure to an 18 year old kid. Putting on the jersey just won’t feel the same anymore.
by MalachiConstant on Mar 4, 2010 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
26 here.
It’s been… weird the past couple of years going from watching guys my age get drafted to watching whole teams that are on average younger than I am.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Aph on Mar 4, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
It still takes getting used to when guys your age are called too old or washed up. Realistically I still have 30-40 years before I retire for real how can I be too old?
There are two ways of being happy: We must either diminish our wants or augment our means - either may do - the result is the same and it is for each man to decide for himself and to do that which happens to be easier.
- Benjamin Franklin
wait til the guys that are drafted were born the year you graduated high school, that’s a funny feeling.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know.
Third base
. . . . . What? Oh, sorry. I thought I was on a 2 hour tape delay.
by Busted Twigg on Mar 4, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
I will say this about Tucker,
I was not really on his bandwagon earlier in the year, but the way I consistently stand up for teammates on the ice, and the leadership he is providing on and off the ice, I have am starting to come around. Imagine if you will, that Tucker had been in Yelle’s place, being a critical part to the team’s 2 Stanley Cups, we feel the way we do about Tucker? Just a thought.
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Mueller's response
To the Avs management for trading for him: In the words of Michael Scott, “I am so impressed with the potential you see in me”.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
More like
“Thanks for getting me out of that hell hole. At least now i get to play somewhere were the ice conditions are good and people actually care about the team and we have a real owner not the NHL owning us.”
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
Well, yeah. But that’s not a quote from The Office.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Mar 4, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
thought you would’ve gone with the michael scott classic: "I’m very fast. I’m like Forest Gump except… I am not an idiot. "
Or maybe, in reference to “Don’t be an idiot” being the most influential thing Michael ever said to Dwight, Dwight elaborates with: “Whenever I am about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do this?’ And if he would, I DO NOT do that thing”.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a douche bag like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Mar 4, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
It’s not? Sounds like something Creed said…season 2 or 3, maybe?
by Dan Winkler on Mar 4, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
Dutchy
Hey i didn’t know this:
Became the first 18-year-old with consecutive multiple-goal games since Florida’s Radek Dvorak in November 1995.
not even Sid the Kid or Ovie did that in their rookie years!!
I may live in NC but my seats are definatly Center Ice LOL
Breaking News from Dater:
Yelle is in. It’ll be interesting to see what Joe Sacco’s defensive pairings are again, too. Kyle Quincey was a healthy scratch last night, which was a surprise (though, maybe not totally, because of his bad penalty that helped cost the Avs at least a point the other night against Detroit).
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I haven’t seen it elsewhere on the site but I went over to the offical site they have Yelle listed as #18
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
I've said it before but...
I hate that cursed number.
Sandie
"There are two types of forwards. Scorers and bangers. Scorers score and bangers bang. -Ken Dryden
by Sandie Gauthier on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
pfffft
breaking news. i read that hours ago.
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Idk if this was mentioned already
but Yeller wearing 18 upset me lol
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62 would have worked, but it’s not his style, i think he wore 11 for the lames, i wouldn’t have hated that.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Mar 4, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
From Five for Howling...
Peter Mueller got a good start for Colorado last night scoring his first goal in a while against the Anaheim Ducks. While I wish him kinda sorta well, I’m also hoping that the team remembers every single one of those annoying little things he did on the road or in the locker room and give him a little extra “love” with every hit they lay on him. Before I wouldn’t have really cared much, but finding out that he asked to be traded and then just stopped trying kind of annoys the hell out of me.
hmmmmm, interesting…could be a good thing, could be a bad thing…could be a load of crap…interesting nonetheless
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dater
Hejduk not playing for #avs tonight. bummer
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ugh -__-
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by SportsDalaiLama on Mar 4, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
stay away from snowblowers and the training staff, Milan.
Fixed. Much to my consternation.
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Aaaand Hopfenscribbitted!!!
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Congrats,
It was almost a week I think!
Proud Soldier in the Burgandy Brigade.
"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles
>:-P
2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche - On the upside, there's only 19 more (regular season) games of Darcy Tucker left!
Pbhttttttttttt!!!
Sorry. Any way you’re gonna make it to Tuesday’s game? We had so much fun the other night.
Proud Soldier in the Burgandy Brigade.
"You mess with our Hejduk and the Spirit of Lappy is coming!"-Jibbles
Yeah, it was fun, but no way I make the game on Tuesday. Woke up this morning to a cold shower. Water heater out.
Pilot light will light, but doesn’t stay on for more than 45 minutes. The damned thing is less than five years old. I am more than a bit pissed.
Work sucks good and hard too (though I have job security, since I do my own and that of most others in the company as well, it seems).
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I've seen you two together
So I know you’re not the same guy.
And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.
by Bob in Boulder on Mar 4, 2010 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
You were drinking. Heavily.
We’re one in the same.
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O_O
Ok maybe I am missing something but why in gods’ green earth are the authentic jerseys that expensive. I don’t remember paying that much for my customized Ichiro jersey I bought.
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