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That Bites. Sharks Return The Late-Goal Favor, Top Avalanche 6-5 in Overtime

 



 



How about this for a Craigslist entry: "Uh, guys, a little help?"

Craig Anderson very nearly stole the game tonight. But, in the end, he couldn't overcome the defensive miscues. The strong defensive effort exhibited in game one took a breather tonight. The good news was that the Avalanche blueliners did an excellent job blocking shots tonight. The bad news was that they had a LOT of opportunities to block shots as none of the 6 had a very strong game (and Scott Hannan and Kyle Quincey were particularly poor tonight). You could put together a hefty video file on How Not To Clear The Puck based on tonight's game.

Setting aside the outcome, this was an entertaining game from start to finish. While the ice was certainly tilted San Jose's way, the Avalanche took advantage of just about every opportunity given to them. The entire game was a repeating cycle - quick goal by the Avs, followed by a long period of work by the Sharks to tie it up. Then a quick goal by the Avs, and on and on. The Avalanche led 5 times and 5 times the Sharks tied it up. San Jose's first lead of the game came on Devon Seteguchi's overtime goal.

The Avs started the scoring with a fluky goal just 70 seconds in, when Rob Blake's clearing attempt hit Marc-Edouard Vlasic in the collarbone and dropped right into the goal. Milan Hejduk was originally credited with the goal, but it was later changed to Kyle Cumiskey. The Avalanche did everything they could to atone for that cheap goal by taking some stupid penalties in the first period - Cumiskey's eggheaded offensive zone holding penalty (on a power play, no less) and Adam Foote's ill-advised interference call a little later on. Ironically, it was the 3rd penalty that was more of a bad break, with the puck taking an unexpected bounce to the Avalanche bench to lead to a Too Many Men penalty that finally resulted in the PP goal - Manny Malhotra scored with just 42 seconds to go in the 1st to tie the game.

The 2nd period was a barn burner, with 6 goals scored. Evgeni Nabokov made a whopping one save in the first (and the Avs punched home the rebound on that one). Chris Stewart started things off by doing what we said he would in our preview last week - he took a headman pass from Craig Anderson and outraced an out-of-position Doug Murray to go in all alone on Nabby. Just 24 seconds in, the Avs were back in the lead. Blake tied it 3 minutes later with a blistering shot that beat Andy cleanly to the glove side. The Avalanche needed just 35 seconds to take the lead again when Matt Duchene out-hustled a couple of Sharks to the puck inside the zone and Doug Murray again made a brutal error, leaving Milan Hejduk all alone in the center of the ice. Just over 4 minutes in, Avalanche 3, San Jose 2.

Setoguchi tied it a few minutes later when he beat Anderson to a rebound in the slot. This time, it took 10 minutes for the Avs to go back on top, with Brandon Yip scoring at the 17:10 mark to make it 4-3 - a very soft goal on the part of Nabokov. And, as they had in the first period, the Sharks played right up to the end of the period and scored their 2nd goal of the night in the final minute of the period. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be their last.

Just over 5 minutes into the 3rd, Chris Stewart scored his 2nd of the night (and 30th in 79 games played this year) - another dud by Nabokov. As bad as Nabby was playing here, I would have loved to see the Avs ramp up the pressure here to try to get a 2-goal lead. They had a perfect opportunity to do so. At the 8:58 mark, Setoguchi appeared to score the tying goal, but it was waved off for goaltender interference. Setoguchi got two minutes as well and Rob Blake handed the Avalanche a 5-on-3 a short time later with his gentlemanly kneeing penalty on Matt Duchene. The Avs failed to get a shot with the 2-man advantage, and it cost them. Although the Avalanche were able to kill a completely boneheaded slashing penalty on Brandon Yip with 5 to go, the Sharks ultimately came back. With Nabby pulled and just over 30 seconds left, Paul Stastny and Stephane Yelle got slowed up in the neutral zone when they crossed paths. This gave the Sharks way too much room to operate. Joe Thornton found Dany Heatly in the slot. Adam Foote had 6 blocks in the game, but this one got past him. Anderson made the save, but there was no man available to pick up Joe Pavelski or the puck, and he banged it home for the dramatic tying goal.

Both teams came out firing in OT, but the Avs' discipline issues finally did them in. The Avalanche took some bad penalties all night - from the Foote and Cumiskey penalties in the first to a head-scratching cross-check by Stastny in the 2nd to Yip's brain fart in the 3rd. To that, you could add Foote's interference play, when he drove Jed Ortmeyer into the net away from the play, knocking it off the moorings. I quickly read through some of the comments in the monstrous live thread, and see that there are a lot of people unhappy with that call. To me, that was a clear penalty - not only did he run into him away from the puck, but he conspicuously pushed Ortmeyer into the net...and he did this 10 feet away from the referee. That was no incidental contact. Worse, it was unnecessary. There's no way that's not going to get called, overtime, playoffs or otherwise. I again thought the officiating was uneven - lots of interference on both teams that wasn't called - but I don't see how you can blame the refs for this one. If you've gotten this far, you know Setoguchi tipped the puck past Anderson on the ensuing power play to send the Avalanche home with a still acceptable 1-1 series split.

But the Avalanche gave a potent Sharks team way too many chances tonight, whether it was with dumb penalties or terrible clearing attempts. If that's a sign of things to come, this series is going to be over quickly. And it won't be the fault of the refs.

Mike's Thoughts:  Wow. This game was not what I expected after Game 1.  I though we'd see a much more controlled Sharks team who really utilized their size and an Avalanche team with the foot firmly planted on the gas pedal.  Instead, there was lots of scoring chances off the rush at both ends, the Avs were tied or in the lead for the vast majority of the game, we saw another dirty play by Gentleman Blake, more horrible officiating, and more late game heroics.  I don't think we saw quite a 60 minute effort, but it was pretty close.  The long and short of this game, and the loss, is the power-play opportunities.  San Jose had something like 27 shots generated from the multiple man advantages.  And of course they scored on two of those.  On the other end, the lack of anything cohesive, especially on the 2-man advantage for the Avalanche, wasn't great to see.  I thought we had some great individual games, especially Stewert, Duchene and Hejduk.  I thought Andy had some great stops, but the Nichol goal will stick in my craw for a tad.  Also, the first Shark fan that tries to tell me that the crowd wasn't hostile for the home team is delusional.  At one point they were "cheering" Nabokov for making a routine save.  The chorus of "Avalanche boos" in the first was also laughable.  Still, the Avs managed a road split on two close games.  Hopefully some home cooking will allow the Avs to play more "on their toes", something they got away from for stretches of this game.

Paul's misgivings: That was an entertaining bout that the Avs were lucky to be ahead, or tied, in for entire game (until the bitter end). We discussed in our preview the need to limit the Sharks PP chances - 8 penalties is not exactly limiting anything accept the chances the Avs have to win the game. Yes the officiating has been lopsided and inconsistent, but that really doesn't matter in the fact that the Avs have to stop taking so many penalties. And they can't get outshot by 30 ever again if they want to keep on top of this series. The GREAT news is that the Avs capitalized on the majority of their chances and that was glorious to see. They responded quickly after goals and bounced right back to take the lead. This is an opportunistic bunch of kids to be sure. Another positive is that the Avs stole home ice in the series by taking that split in SJ. My favorite thing to see though is Galiardi and his playoff beard of blood as he just becomes more badass by the shift. He is legend. Stewie too. I just want CS to use that massive frame to hit more fools. If the Sharks play that physical, and the Avs don't out run the brutes in teal, then the Avs can't win the 7 game series. But our boys will bounce back, just like they have all season. Last note: somebody please punch Rob Blake in the throat - or at least a gentlemanly slap across his doughy face.

See you for Sunday's game 3 preview and recap. GO AVS!

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Foote call.

It’s not so much that it was a bad call, it’s that based on what they had been calling, or not calling, it was pretty weak.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 12:43 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree that there was a lot of interference not called, on both teams and in both games. But you’re not going to get away with that play there, and Adam Foote knows that.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 17, 2010 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair

his friend Blake just got away with a near decapitation.

But I agree it was a stupid play. The Avs made way too many of them tonight.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

It’s one of those things. The call on Foote was the correct call by the book. But when you look at the body of work over the course of the game, the refs failed to make that same “correct call” on numerous instances. In overtime, i think you swallow the whistle a bit, and let that go.

That isn’t what lost the game though. The Avs gave up a goal with under a minute to go in every period (terrible), they failed to score on a 5 on 3 late in the third (terrible), and they gave up about 100 shots directed at the net (terrible). They need to do a better job of dictating the play to San Jose if they want to take care of business at home, and clean up a few of the unnecessary penalties.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 1:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

clean up a few all of the unnecessary penalties

That’s better, quick fix

Sports don't build character, they reveal it

by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 1:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

You mean compared to the gentlemanly decapitation attempt by Blake on Gali earlier in the OT?

Fuck you Rob Blake. Right up that big lethal ass of yours.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 12:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

you mean the one where “ex Av Rob Blake practically punched TJ Galiardi in the head coming over the Sharks blue line.” which, in the Post story, happens to sit exactly next to the photo below

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 17, 2010 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

who needs to tone down the hyperbole now?

:)

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 17, 2010 12:50 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t see the puck in that picture at all…

For all those 'experts' that picked the Sharks in 4, I'm pretty sure you were wrong! Go Avs Go!

by avs7733 on Apr 17, 2010 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nope

The puck had been taken away by two other Shark players and was long gone. Interference. Roughing. Take your pick, it was a blatant case of both.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

And also leaving your feet and also a hit to the head and probably intent to injure. I’m actually considering that Gentleman Rob has been charged with taking out the most talented of the young guns. Kneeing, boarding, and cheap shots to the head. Just saying, that’s waay more ruutu than scholar type behavior.

Dater said seeing PL in the halls after makes him think that the livid avs management will be trying to get a suspension. Well have to see but I’m guessing that the discrepancy in pay between agressor and victim is a little too rich since a stretcher wasn’t needed.

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by wflan on Apr 17, 2010 12:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

seriously….first it’s mueller, then the knee on duchene, now this on gali…who the fuck is next??? and don’t try to tell me that was an errant hip check on duchene. no way. that was a masked knee hit.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Apr 17, 2010 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

being at the game

it totally seemed to me the refs gave into the fans calling bull on them during the 3rd. the crowd was very loud in their disproveal of the calls that led to the 5 on 3 in the 3rd period. I hate to think the refs gave into peer pressure but sometimes it seems the refs want to tilt it back one way when they had been calling the other way

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by natedogg12 on Apr 17, 2010 2:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think I need more RAM

Cause I can’t even open the live thread. Once they get too much over 1K comments, I’m pretty much toast. I have a fast connection. Is it probably my RAM?

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 12:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Agree

McCovey chronicles has over flow threads at around 1k comments. I think we should do that here.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

the problem is there’s not always someone around to start a new thread. personally, I don’t have any issue with the live thread.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 17, 2010 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

which isn’t to say we can’t do it. just that I haven’t seen the slowdowns

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Apr 17, 2010 12:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Especially when opening the thread i notice it. Once everything loads it’s not so bad.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 1:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is what I notice at work, at home my connection is to slow to bother,
But at work, if a thread is over 1k comments, i don’t even bother to open it.
if it’s already open and grows it’s not a big deal.

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by gl avfan on Apr 17, 2010 1:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

trade the commodore 64 in for something made this century, perhaps? ;)

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by TheRed on Apr 17, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

GET OFF OUR LAWN!!!

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by Hopfenkopf on Apr 17, 2010 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

It is an apple IIC for your information and GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!

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by tibbar on Apr 18, 2010 2:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

you have an excuse. Don’t you have to use lowest bidder spec?

/runs laughing from lawns.

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by TheRed on Apr 19, 2010 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Feelings of hatred i didn’t know i had are starting to direct themselves at several Sharts, who have perfected the art of douchebaggery.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 12:54 AM MDT reply actions  

namely

Setogoochiegoo, Pavelski, and Clowe. That hole line can jump out of a plane at 30 K without parachutes as far as i am concerned. A little “team bonding” adventure.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Blake has been added to that list for me…..

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by Americanario on Apr 17, 2010 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tip your hat to the sharks

They came back several times, and we just couldn’t clear enough pucks or win any faceoffs in our defensive zone. This was an extremely fun game to watch, unfortunately we didn’t come out on top. I have confidence in the Avs to bounce back at home.

by wangstu13 on Apr 17, 2010 1:01 AM MDT reply actions  

One thing I did like about tonight

Was the Avs finish. Aside from the few chances Dutchy had in OT, the Avs seemd to bury every chance they got.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 1:06 AM MDT reply actions  

The Top 19 Avs of All Time....

Can we take Blake’s name off that list now? With all that he has done to us this year… does it outweigh the greatness of the past? Oh yea and no pants/ only Jerseys to go to the game on Sunday….

by AvsfanTx on Apr 17, 2010 1:12 AM MDT reply actions  

is this a pepsi center playoff tradition in the making?..

If the ladies buy in, I am all for it. How hot would that be if every chica in pepsi center was strutting around pantless with a jersey!

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 1:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Blake

I just think Blake has a bad case of old man syndrome. With the Avs he was a BAMF, and could legally rough peeps up with his hip check and overall awesomeness. Now that he is old, he wants to be a BAMF still, but he’s not, so he resorts to borderline cheap methods to make himself feel like a beast.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 1:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Borderline? Really? I’m just saying that if Borque had retired a few seasons after, ‘gentleman ray’ wouldn’t be ironic bc he knew how to cleave opponents without making bertuzzi fragrant piles of shit on skates everywhere proud.

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by wflan on Apr 17, 2010 12:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mogwai – R U Still In 2 It = perfect devastation music.

by HugoAgogo on Apr 17, 2010 1:30 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 17, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

best comment heard at the game though

man behind me: Rob Blake don’t get so cute—referring to Blake’s puck handling. I don’t think Blake and cute have ever been in a sentence together before. That man is UGLY

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by natedogg12 on Apr 17, 2010 2:33 AM MDT reply actions  

Dater calling for Blake suspension

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by gl avfan on Apr 17, 2010 2:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Good for AD

I agree with it. It was definitely a cheap shot by Blake. And a deliberate shot to the head. Fuck you with the workng end of a rake Rob Blake.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 7:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Blake was an absolute douchebag last night, from his kneeing of Duchene to his head shot on Galiardi. He needs to be suspened, but I would almost guarantee that he won’t be.

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by Rather Dashing on Apr 17, 2010 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ll do better than that. I’m ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE he won’t be. This is the NHL.

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by Mike @ MHH on Apr 17, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Evidently Rob Blake is immune from suspensions

and even most penalties!

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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's a long series

I’m still optimistic. I wanted at least a split during the first two games and the Avs got that. Actually, maybe even one better. They took the Sharks to OT for the loss. They are not letting the Sharks win this easily. Clean up the discipline (I thought the refs were more even this game but the Avs made the dumb plays to lead to more penalties against them) and the Avs are STILL IN THIS.

We got ourselves a series folks. No way, I repeat, NO WAY the Ave lose both games at home.

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by InYoFace on Apr 17, 2010 2:51 AM MDT reply actions  

The Sharks were 31 seconds away from being down 2-0

Then were gifted the win with the non-call on Blake and the call on Foote. They shouldn’t feel good about themselves.

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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 7:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s the rub – they do feel good. They thing this is a great game to build on. When in reality, they barely squeaked it out, at home, in a must win against an Avs team that wasn’t really playing well.

My guess is that they’re trying to convince themselves that they feel good, but they’re friggin’ worried.

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by Andykrist on Apr 17, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

think*

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by Andykrist on Apr 17, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Young and learning

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What happened tonight is ok, it’s the process of learning.

They were very excited, happy to have won the first game and they looked like kids at a party, playing without discipline and concentration, way too much often. Now they know that playoffs mean being focused during 60 minutes, plus OT if needs be. Also seing Nabokov giving soft goals on few shots got them overconfident, thinking they could always score, which they did, with goalden Chris back with his scoring touch.

The penalty with too many men on the ice was a killer. If that penalty did not happen, no goal from the Sharks in the first, and they come back in the second with a much different attitude, scared shitless of losing again and that Anderson could shut them out.

I am sure, Sunday night, the Avs will be back very efficient like they were last Wednesday.

Lets say that yesterday night was a day at school, with their slingshots hanging loosely from the back pocket of their jeans. ;-)

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Honestly, how can sharks' teeth damage an avalanche of snow? Isn't it a good omen for the Avs? Why even go through the motion, they should hand us the serie, no?

by god's clown on Apr 17, 2010 4:56 AM MDT reply actions  

I had issues with a couple of the calls/non calls in the game, but not Foote’s in OT. That was pretty blatant Old Man Foote. I took issue with Marleau’s uncalled slew-foot on Andy in the first, Cumiskey’s “hold” was ridiculously weak, especially considering what went uncalled as the game wore on, I thought Galiardi got away with some shenanigans that probably would have been called in a regular season game, and Hannan was still taking some liberties along the boards. All that being said, the penalties that killed Colorado were always at the end of long stretches of standing around in their own end rather than attacking San Jose. Gotta keep the feet moving in the playoffs and there was lots of “waiting for the play to come to them” attitude late in periods last night.

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by Mike @ MHH on Apr 17, 2010 6:48 AM MDT reply actions  

The Foote call was a good one. My complaint is swallowing the whistle on Blake’s decap. It not like it was away from the play.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Apr 17, 2010 7:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not just going to boo Blake

I’m going to let him have it from 6 rows up from the ice tomorrow night. That jackhole deserves all the booing he gets at this point.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 7:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

52 shots against

That’s a 5 then a 2. That’s not even counting the 20-some blocked shots. If the Avs can find a way to fix this problem they’ve had all season, they’d be able to pimp-walk into the finals.

And if you’re gonna give up that many power plays, at least make the penalties worth it!

I think as a former Blake teammate, as a veteran player, and as the captain of the Avalanche, Footer needs to have a heart-to-heart fist-to-face with Blake.

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by AvDog on Apr 17, 2010 7:37 AM MDT reply actions  

The D were incredibly weak down low

And couldn’t clear the puck if their life depended on it. All of them. Hannan had a chance to clear before the game winner and instead puked it away meekly towards the center of our zone.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of been the season in a nutshell.

This team has bounced back after some really bad loses so the media mantra of heart breaker for this Avalanche team probably won’t hold. It’s like they are so young they have short term memories.

by Dario on Apr 17, 2010 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

True

My big disappointment came from the fact that they looked so great on Wednesday. Wtf happened? Was San Jose that much better?

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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree. Road runners looking lost do not belong on the pk in the slot when an unmolested shark is busy artfully tipping a puck for the game winner.

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by wflan on Apr 17, 2010 3:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok, after thinking about it

This loss might be a good thing. We wanted to win 1 from California. We did. Even though the game was on our stick, this might make the Avs reset and get back to our hockey. I could easily see us going up 2-0 and we sit back and the Sharks win 4 games straight.

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by c6hor8 on Apr 17, 2010 9:05 AM MDT reply actions  

If by clean check

You mean stick and gloves straight to the face, see picture above, then we are on the same page. It’s note even how dirty that hit was. It’s the fact that that was not called and the Foote call was. There is a discrepancy here.

The point here is these calls changed the game. That should not happen.

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by c6hor8 on Apr 17, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

not*

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by c6hor8 on Apr 17, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hands to the face without the puck on the same call against Foote earlier in the game. What more do you want?

by Dario on Apr 17, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of course it was. You may want to take a serious course of human anatomy there, buster. My only question is was it only the extended gloves to the head or did he also use his stick?

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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

There was no hands to the face!

Not even in the picture above. I’ve seen the replay more than 10 times, and he never touches his face. I don’t know, maybe the avs feed had a different angle.

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by Diamondback15 on Apr 17, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

If he was hitting Gali with his shoulder, you wouldn’t be able to see that stripe around his bicep.

I’ll admit that it’s difficult to see exactly where Galiardi’s face is, because it’s being enveloped completely by Blakes forearm though.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Wilson does the same thing to Heatley he'll get suspended.

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by c6hor8 on Apr 17, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

not to mention the location of the puck

by Brett Shumway on Apr 17, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

So other than the puck being 4-6 feet away, Blake leaving his feet, and the forearm to the face I think the hit is pretty clean.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

At first I didn’t think the hit was that bad…

You can't kill the Galiardi. The Galiardi will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

It probably would have been ok had he not gotten his arms up… but he did.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I am COMPLETELY over Rob Blake. Hopefully his slow ass will lead to more penalties and goals for us.

You can't kill the Galiardi. The Galiardi will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

if you pause slightly later

you can see his glove directly below the general area gali’s helmet flies off of. 21 secs.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2596/blakeevidence.png

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by wflan on Apr 17, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Either Dback is incorrrect or Gali has no head.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think a look at these 2 pictures before the still frames you guys provided will help a little bit. By the time your (Jibblescribbits) still frame is taken, Galiardi has already started to crumble (look at the angle of his body) and his head has already whiplashed back from the initial contact to his chest. I think it’s possible Blake made contact with Galiardi’s head on his follow through, but in my opinion, that’s not where 100% of the force of the hit was made or where the intent (which I’m sure was nothing short of gentlemanly)(sarcasm) was.

So to clarify, (wflan & Jibblescribbits) you would like to see every hit in which the hitter leaves his feet to be penalized? I can’t remember the last time I saw a charging called, and I think that was a goon that took a 50ft head start and practically tackled a guy into the boards. I don’t think you should be pointing at Blake’s skates leaving the ice as your plea for charging, or roughing, or whatever it would be. Lots of guys leave their feet. It’s not going to be called, even if it’s technically illegal.

Bob in Boulder, you can see the puck in all 3 of these pictures. I don’t think it’s “long gone” by any definition of the phrase. The puck just got poked away, he looked down to find it and then he “ran into” Blake. It seemed pretty split-second to me. I’m not saying there weren’t a ton of interference non-calls, but I don’t think this was comparable to Foote’s OT interference – nobody is in contention about that being interference. Can anyone tell me what is the rule on how far away the puck is, or how long after the puck leaves possession on interference? I think it would help me better understand if this was interference or not.

I guess my point is that follow through aside (which seems more natural than on purpose, but you can debate Blake’s evil career-ending intentions amongst yourselves), I don’t think this was a dangerous intent-to-the-head play. Semi-brutal hockey hit, yes. I think you would have loved it if one of your guys hit us like this. The initial contact is with the body, the follow through (with hands and/or stick) seems to me to be Blake hitting through the man. I watched it frame-by-frame in HD during the game. You can definitely see his head getting whiplashed, not from the direct contact from Blake and before it does or does not make contact w/ Blake’s follow through.

by WillR on Apr 17, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

wflan, if you pause slightly earlier, you see his helmet buried in Rob’s chest/shoulder, about to be whiplashed because his neck/body used to be going forward, and now it’s about to go backwards. This is as close to the point of contact as I can get. Galiardi is already starting to crumble and Blake’s forearm is not head level and not extended. Are we both seeing what we want to see and posting pictures that “prove” our theories? Either Dback knows his anatomy or anyone with mspaint can take a still frame to prove their point.

by WillR on Apr 17, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

So

From D-back:

I’ve seen the replay more than 10 times, and he never touches his face.

I think that’s pretty clearly not the case. Blake most certainly touched his face. That was the point I was trying to prove with the screengrab.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

And if you put the 4 screen grabs together, it’s pretty clear That after initial contact, Blake uses his forearm, to Galiardi’s face, to make the hit bigger.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it’s really hard to tell (how much of Blake’s forearm found face, and how intentional it was), seeing as his forearm is in between Galiardi’s head and the camera. I think his follow through might have made contact but even if it did, it’s still a good hockey hit (from the front & not targeted at the head). To each their own though – I don’t think we’re going to end up agreeing.

What’s your opinion on this hit? I’m definitely not saying the hits are the same, but Sutton had his elbow tucked and followed through as well. Galiardi also had his head down to findt he puck that had just been poked away. I personally think this one at least looks a lot worse than the Blake hit. (I also think the knee on Duchene and the Mueller hit were worse.)

Solid hockey hit. Elbow was tucked and Leopold had his head down. Leopold didn’t return to the game and will be further evaluated tomorrow. Sutton was not penalized on the play.

In this era of questioning every single ugly looking hit, there was some wonder if supplemental discipline would be in order for Sutton. Penguins’ forward Mike Rupp believed it was a suspendable offense, while teammate Brooks Orpik thought it was just a case of an opponent playing hard. According to TSN’s Bob McKenzie, however, the NHL and Colin Campbell don’t agree and Sutton will not face any punishment.

by WillR on Apr 17, 2010 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought the Sutton hit was kinda bad, to be honest, although different than the Blake hit.

And I don’t think Blake was intentionally trying to hurt him, I think he’s just a bit slow so he’s doing things old slower players do. Push out there arms and stick out their legs.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you would have loved it if one of your guys hit us like this.

For the record Ryan Wilson got his arm up and to the face of Horcroft earlier this year, not on purpose but he did, and I said it should be a one game suspension.

Hits to the head are dangerous.

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

for the record, i did too. most of us on this board don’t love it when our players hurt anyone with cheap shots or illegal hits..(bertuzzi excepted. i imagine there are quite a few who wouldn’t care how he is hurt.) that kind of thing puts a bad rep on our guys and that’s not what they’re about nor do we want them to be.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Apr 17, 2010 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I don’t want anyone getting hurt, they should be able to go home to their families every night without concussions.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Apr 18, 2010 1:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Man, that was tough.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 17, 2010 10:47 AM MDT reply actions  

we owe andy better

My ex roommate from Calgary said ‘its amazing Andy can let in five goals and still be considered a stud’
52 shots, about half on the pk. Uncool, guys. Also, road runner half screening, half being entirely uselessly in the slot was miserable. It also let the winning tip occur without challenge or difficulty.

I’d also suggest we all take out loans and just pay gentleman rob the bounty he’s been promised for the next star rookie he injures but seeing how he journeys for money, I doubt we could afford to.

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by wflan on Apr 17, 2010 12:45 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I haven't read through the recap or the thread

don’t have time to, but I wanted to share this…You all know I’m never one to blame the refs or say that a loss is due to bad calls. In fact, I won’t even put this loss on that. (Hellooooo, shots on net would be nice especially when Nabby looks like so much Bertuzzi out there) but I just got off the phone with one of those guys you all know I know who used to play for those teams in that hockey league that we all love (I don’t want to put names down on this one, so please don’t add any, k?) and he told me straight up that (1) refs do call games to even up scores or help favor certain teams, it’s a known fact and (2) it was happening left and right last night, often in favor of the Sharks. That’s not to say that the Avs weren’t guilty as sin for some of those calls like SoS being an idiot for that cross-check bullshit he pulled but my friend believes the refs won that game. He still thinks the Avs have a good chance at pulling out the series win tho.

Oh and on another slightly unrelated but totally hilarious topic….I mentioned that I thought Hannan had a bad night and he expressed his belief that Hannan was a bad player. He said he told the Avs not to sign him because he felt they’d be disappointed. After they did and the hobbit started playing, a member of the Avs upper echelon called my friend up and said, “Holy shit. You were right. And we’re paying him how much money???” I personally like Hannan but I thought that was damn funny.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Apr 17, 2010 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Your friend is a very funny man!

Sandie

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by Sandie Gauthier on Apr 17, 2010 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, for the record, I have no issue with SoS’s penalty being called. It was dumb, it wasn’t the right time, etc. It was the typical slow-play, step in front of a guy and slow down to avoid obstruction yet still obstruct play that is prevalent in the new NHL and I have no problem with that.

The problem I had with that play, and Galiardi had it too, was the fucking dive. SoS hit whoever the fuck it was up high in the shoulders, but they were moving at nearly the same speed and the douche went down pretty fucking easy. It was an obvious attempt to draw a call, yet it wasn’t called.

I understand that the NHL doesn’t call that anymore. It’s slowly disappeared since the lockout. And when the do call it, they always call a matching minor. It was just one more thing that pissed me off last night.

Still, I’ll stand by my earlier position, people standing around in their own end is what lost the Avs this game, not officiating.

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by Mike @ MHH on Apr 17, 2010 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

being at the game

Beachie- It totally seems the Refs were following orders last night to even the game up especially after that first goal in the second period. I don’t know why but the refs just didnt like the bullshit chants that were going last night. Sharks fans are some weird people. But whatever

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by natedogg12 on Apr 17, 2010 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

wouldn't surprise me

after hearing that interview with the NBA ref saying it happens there, i have to believe that it happens in all pro sports.

btw, I LOVE your sig line.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Apr 17, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

not trying to be a dick, but you may want to anonymize your “sources” a little more. We all know who it is and I for one wouldn’t want him to get any back lash. That being said I appreciate the dirt.

It really disappoints me to think NBA quality reffing is now in the NHL. I suppose with Bettman around I shouldn’t be surprised. I’m not, but I am disappointed.

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by TheRed on Apr 19, 2010 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

My opinion on last nights game...

Allow me to break the ice. My name is Freeze. Learn it well for it is the chilling sound of your doom.

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by IceToMeetYou on Apr 17, 2010 2:17 PM MDT reply actions  

Blake

Ok, so why doesn’t someone take out Blake. The teams owes it to their player to protect their starts from goons. Maybe Ian Laperriere should suit up for the next game – if only!

by helgothjb on Apr 17, 2010 2:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Either Wilson or one of our larger forwards (Stewie) needs to line him up with a devastating open ice hit, or someone has to challenge his ass to a fight and beat the snot out of him. He’s taken 3 liberties now with 3 of our best forwards. The problem with the latter is, who challenges him? McLeod had the eye injury earlier this year. Hendricks and Wilson have had concussions. Do you risk losing Stewie to a fight injury? I wouldn’t dress Koci, period.

Or another option, I guess, is that Tucker opens up a can of his old school douchery that evidently Blake is now practicing.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can I vote for Tucker on this one? We could afford to lose him to injury. Conversely, we could really use him fired up and crazy enough to fight. I keep saying this. I wish something would light a flame under his ass but it seems Gali has already taken that role.

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by texacogirl on Apr 17, 2010 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Blake will NEVER do this again:

and how does he thank the organization that helped him to finally get to hold that thing above his head? By trying to take out all of our best players?

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ungrateful bastard. That will be his only Cup.

You can't kill the Galiardi. The Galiardi will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope he forgets to wear one tomorrow night and a puck is driven into his jewels.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to gets some serious hits on him tomorrow to keep the Hockey Gods from abandoning us. This is becoming blasphemous.

You can't kill the Galiardi. The Galiardi will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

CBC thinks the hit on Gali should’ve been a penalty and the undertone sounds like they lean towards suspension too…or maybe I’m just reading into it what I want to hear

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by Cheryl Bradley on Apr 17, 2010 5:02 PM MDT reply actions  

CBC is rational

Was the fricken Versus feed last night San Jose’s? If so, that sucks.

FU Rob Blake, and I mean that in the most gentlemanly way possible

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 17, 2010 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Usually Remenda has a pretty fair analysis

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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 17, 2010 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1B_YpUx0Nc

Another classless move by Blake.

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by Cotts on Apr 17, 2010 6:37 PM MDT reply actions  

What a douche. He is turning into insane Romo at the end of his Bronco days.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Apr 17, 2010 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

What are you guys talking about, that was an illegal spear AFTER the play, that obviously doesn’t count against a true gentleman.

by Brett Shumway on Apr 17, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

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