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LOS ANGELES, CA - JUNE 26:  Luke Moffatt, drafted in the seventh round by the Colorado Avalanche, poses for a portrait during the 2010 NHL Entry Draft at Staples Center on June 26, 2010 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)

 

Happy Monday, Mile High readers! I have just returned from a terrific vacation on Cape Cod. The quaint cottage we stayed at was a stone's throw from the ocean but one of the nicest features may have been the complete lack of TV, internet or phone. I don't have the most hectic life around, but it was still great to be forced to unplug for a couple of days.

It did mean that I completely missed all Avalanche news for the last few days, which appears to mostly encompass the NHL draft. I did get up on Saturday morning to run down to a little convenience store (staffed entirely by attractive 20-something Russian girls) to grab a Boston Globe. I rushed back to the cottage, sat down on the couch, flipped to the last page of the sports section and searched through the draft recap to see who the Avs drafted in round one. You can probably guess. My reaction was "who?"

I've never heard of Joey Hishon, which by no means is an indication that he won't succeed in the NHL. The Avalanche scouting department is very high on Hishon, and that, for now, is good enough for me. Their 4 previous first round picks are Matt Duchene, Kevin Shattenkirk, Chris Stewart and Wojtek Wolski and you have to go back to Jonas Johansson in 2002 for their last first round bust. The Avalanche scouting department has built up some goodwill collateral. No complaints from me (and I'm very excited to see them land Calvin Pickard in the 2nd round).

However, there is a "yes, but" coming. I fully expected to come back and hear about the extensions signed by potential RFA's Chris Stewart, Peter Mueller, Kyle Quincey and Brandon Yip. Today is the deadline to tender a qualifying offer to those four to retain their rights. While you can be sure the Avs have done that, I kind of thought at least three of them would have been signed to long-term deals before today to keep other teams from driving up their price with a ridiculous offer sheet. The silence on this front is a little worrisome. I know the Avs' front office has been busy with stuff (like laughing at the ridiculous rookie pictures, such as the one above), but this RFA thing is kind of a big deal. I hope we'll learn more about the fate of the big four (as well as Derek Peltier, Wes O'Neill and Codey Burki) as the day progresses. And I hope it's news that we'll like.

Speaking of free agency, the big primer on UFA forwards that was going to be done for today has been delayed by our stupid van. Well, specifically the alternator of said stupid van which decided to conk out smack dab in the middle of I-95. That was quite an experience, let me tell you - having all electrical shut down while going 75 miles an hour on a busy freeway. This includes headlights and windshield wipers, which were going to be necessary with an incoming storm. And then when the car stopped moving...well, guh. Anyway, we did finally make it home (without the van), but we had to wait for someone to drive down and pick us up and I got home too late to churn that out. Look for that on Wednesday.

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Oh hell, that was yours? Sorry about the hubcaps.

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 6:50 AM MDT reply actions  

the van is dead. thanks for your compassion, jerk

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry man, I’ve been there. Luckily I was driving a work truck and got paid to sit on the freeway for 5 hours, a hop skip and a step away from Las Vegas Gangland.

It’s also hard to steer a truck across three lanes of traffic when it’s dead and coasting…..

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by Americanario on Jun 28, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mike’s old cavalier used to do that all the time too. Never on the freeway though. Just 2 lane roads in backwoods Mississippi…

by Mrs @ MHH on Jun 28, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah?

How convenient that Mike’s car used to breakdown out on the back roads in the middle of no where when it was just the two of you around. But never when there were other cars around huh

Very strange indeed.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 28, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sorry. Alternators are easy fixes though. Better than a transmission or worse.

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL
Rec’d

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by gl avfan on Jun 28, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

RFA

I agree 100% i would have expected to hear something by now. i have even sent sever tweets to Dater asking him if he has heard anything and no replies. I think it’s crazy as for the draft I’m in a wait and see patter but figured we would have worked on increasing the size of the guys we drafted.

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 7:45 AM MDT reply actions  

dont worry

dater says they’ve all received qualifying offers, avs are just trying to be as cheap as possible. and can you really blame em? all 4 of these guys are very unproven, and will all (with the exception of yip) want big, long term contracts

by Cole D Hamilton on Jun 28, 2010 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Last i saw was him saying he believed they have all been offered QO but nothing is set in stone. I would rather them be signed to 2 yr deals then let them be offered Offer sheets that are too expensive for the AVs

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

a dangerous game. if the Avs are trying to save a few bucks, it may end up costing them more

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Per Dater

“Even with four key young players — Chris Stewart, Peter Mueller, Brandon Yip and Kyle Quincey — still unsigned, the Avs would probably still have considerable cap space for the coming season when or if they come to terms.”

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m 5’11", 180 pounds. I always thought of myself as too small to play pro hockey, but apparently I’d be a top draft pick for the Avalanche.

You missed more of the same “Maybe THIS guy will be the next Paul Kariya” from the Avs’ draft.

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by Joe Dunman on Jun 28, 2010 8:03 AM MDT reply actions  

The Ducks’ version right?

Is it October yet?!

by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m 5’9", 250lbs, I think I qualify as two 1st rounders

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are about the same size as 33% of the top 30 pts producers in the NHL this season.

Don’t you feel special now?

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Jun 28, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

33% is not a majority. Seems like drafting bigger guys would be a safer bet.

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by Joe Dunman on Jun 28, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

to me, the question isn’t really about size in the abstract. it’s whether more size + less junior production/skills translates to NHL production better than less size + more junior production/skills. If the guy with size produced and had skills like the guy without, there’d be little debate. generally that’s not the case though.

the Avs definitely seem to fall on the pure production/skills is a better indicator than size. that’s all I can say. we’ll see what happens!

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sweet, we got the formula now. Let’s start drafting 6’0" 195 and above only.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Jun 28, 2010 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not really. It’s much harder to draft talented big men than talented small guys, especially without being able to pick at the top of the 1st every year. If it’s between drafted a supremely talented small guy and a less talented big guy, you obviously go with the supreme talent. Thankfully, the Avs are doing just that.

by DetAvs on Jun 28, 2010 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wysh called out the Avs as losers in the Draft:


Colorado Avalanche: Losers. The Joey Hishon pick was high comedy. Ranked as the 55th-best North American skater, he went No. 17 overall. Even he couldn’t believe the Avs picked him, and not in that whole “I never thought this day would come,” way, but rather that whole “I literally could not believe I went that high,” way. The Calvin Pickard selection, though, almost made up for it.

Same old things that we have been hearing… hell, things that I might have said a few times in the confusing moment when we drafted him. I guess the only thing to do now is show that our scouting staff is amazing, and have the kid score 80 points for us in a couple of years!

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Jun 28, 2010 9:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Ryan Lambert writes the “What We Learned” section for PD, not Wysh.

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by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

how dare we go against Central Scouting…….

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rick Pracey sure did

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2010/06/26/more-from-rick-pracey-on-the-avalanches-justification-for-taking-joey-hishon-17th-overall/

"This isn’t any disrespect to Central Scouting, we certainly know how difficult this job is: but, I mean, the Jeff Skinner kid went at 7 and was rated in the 30s, and there were kids rated at 8 and 9 who went in the back half of the first round. That’s just Central Scouting’s list.

"Their situation is, they publicize it to the world, and so be it. If everybody saw our list and saw where we had Joey Hishon on our list, I don’t think there would be any questions. The second-guessing – that’s all part of it. We’re very confident in our abilities. I think if you go back to our past history with us – Ryan O’Reilly was a top-15 player in the world for us, and I believe he was rated the 39th best player by Central Scouting if my recollection is correct. Anywhere near 10, 11 and 12, we would have picked Ryan O’Reilly and people would have been saying the same thing. So I don’t want to sound condescending to (Central Scouting), but it truly is a non-factor to us. It’s very important to us to take care of our business. I’m sure Joey Hishon is up to the challenge and he has nothing to answer to us."

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

And for most of the season, everyone still criticized the Avs for keeping O’Reilly – and even Duchene at times – on the roster. Now everyone wants to emulate the Avs and have two draft picks be that effective.

Let them laugh. It sounds like Hishon likes the challenge and wants to prove them wrong.

"Being called an off-the-board pick, I love it. I can’t wait to prove everyone wrong and show that’s where I belong to be drafted." - Joey Hishon

by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 28, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Touche, salesman…

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Jun 28, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Draft analysis

This is how all draft analysis is. There’s kind of a set narrative on how players should be taken, and if anyone deviates from that they get hammered.

In all reality, it’s impossible to tell how good, or poor, this draft is until about 4 years from now. I don’t put much stock in “Winers and losers” of the draft.

And that goes with pretty much any sport. Except the last Broncos draft, because that Tebow pick was still awful.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

This

I always chuckle at draft grades being given right after the draft when the truth won’t come until 3 years later.

Here is a hint people: Draft grades are there for your entertainment to get more people reading or watching said ‘news’ source.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Jun 28, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's hypocritical.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

ha, you should’ve seen the flack that’s been going towards Mike Gillis……

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by missy on Jun 28, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

little surprised about peltier, others, not so much.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

in a different situation, I could see Peltier retained. just no room for him.

intriguing that they kept Macias over Peltier though

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Macias played at the forward position a little last year. I wonder if they are considering a permanent switch in position for him. I like Peltier, but they have to make room for some of these defensive prospects.

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by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 28, 2010 10:09 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think Macias or his agent are hammering down the door with expectations of making the NHL and getting a shot either. Perltier is probably better off with a place he get his foot in the door. With the Avs I think that boat has sailed.

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

surprised

They didn’t tend Burki

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Burki has pretty much washed his hands of NA hockey. He’s getting married this summer and is moving to the Swiss league. Good for him.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow

Was not aware of that.

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

At least, that’s what I’ve read on a few different LEM boards from guys that said they knew him (or more accurately his fiancee) a little bit.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

At least, that’s what I’ve read on a few different LEM boards from guys that said they knew him (or more accurately his fiancee) a little bit.

I wonder if how well his teammates knew his fiancee may have been a reason for him to bolt to Switzerland. Heeeeyoooooo.

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by Dixomatic on Jun 28, 2010 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

You’re so biblical!

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not. When he’s been healthy, which wasn’t much he was a disappointment.

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by Angélique C. Murray on Jun 28, 2010 10:11 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

That leaves seven D men on Lake Erie team including Shattenkirk, Cohen and Pressing (I dont know if he comes back or if his contract is up). However, doesn’t Gaunce have to go to NHL or AHL this year? And does Elliott of Barrie have any more time in Juniors? Oh, and there is Chouinard and Holos will be in Lake Erie. That will be a total of 10 to D-in Erie (not including Elliot and Barrie. No wonder Peltier and O’neil will not be coming back. Erie D is getting a great face lift this year.

by avalanchejef on Jun 28, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

At least one of those Defensemen is going to make the Avs roster this year, I should think. And I imagine that Sherman is working on a trade to move a couple of the established dmen from the Avs too. We might see some equalization of those numbers between the two teams.

Thanks Joe...

by mfured20 on Jun 28, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Elliott and Barrie can stay in the CHL and i think Gaunce can play his over age year as a 20 year old. I think Chouinard can also play an over age year in the Q. I don’t see Gaunce nor Chouinard doing that. AS Jori mentioned before, Macias may be doing time as a forward next year in the AHL or they may even send him down to the USHL if it gets too bloated in Lake Erie. Avs could carry seven D but you don’t want to sit young players at the NHL, you want them getting shifts in the AHL.

It all points towards why in the hell we never got a deal for Liles. I like him, but I just don’t see how he fits with the team in another year (sorry Beachie. I like him personally, talked to him at his first rookie camp and even “screamed” over the internet about getting him signed by the June 1 deadline when he camp out (with Jori) because frankly, the Avs almost let him go at the 11th hour ala Kurt Saur. But, he’s getting squeezed with the personnel on the team).

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

sorry Beachie.

Can we please stop this? It has gone past the point of old into annoying.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize it annoyed you. I stop reading when the drama kicks in, I’ll refrain in the future. So, um… SORRY BEACHIE :)

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol

no problem. and thanks.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

AFAIK, Preissing is back.

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by Drakenlot on Jun 28, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

To the delight of none.

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by Dixomatic on Jun 28, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

To the delight of Preissing’s bank account.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 28, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m still surprised he hasn’t been bought out. we won’t be near the cap for 2 years, I would think they’d be all about saving money. Maybe they like him as a leader for the younguns in LE.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Injuries, doc. Injuries. He can be an effective healthy scratch/emergency call-up if necessary.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 28, 2010 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

i suppose. I think I would prefer Shattenkirk or Gaunce if it gets to that though.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

more importantly, he costs more against the cap if he’s bought out

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

true, but is the cap really an issue? we’re not going to be near it for the next 2 years unless we go on a shopping spree of epic proportions.

with Knoenke evidently putting a an internal spending limit, I would argue that saving ~900k off the bottom line is more important than the cap hit.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Stashed in LE he doesn’t count against the cap at all. If he’s bought out he counts the next 2 years

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

but why do we care about the cap the next 2 years?

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

If he’s stashed in LE, why do we care at all. It’s Stan’s money.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

because Stan (or someone) sets an internal budget, I assume. the more money we’re under the budget, the more we can spend on improvements.

by thedoctor on Jun 29, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s true, and could be a factor.

Hoopefully the Avs go for Kovi and we worry, at least a little, about the cap this season

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 29, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

im not holding my breath. I’d be happy with one semi-impact signing like Michalek, let alone a Martin or a Kovy level.

by thedoctor on Jun 29, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised...

if he stays with the Avs as a 7th D to ride the bench rather than a youngster (if they don’t sign someone to do it). One added reason I believe this is possible is if in some way they wanted to move Liles (or even Hannan), they may need his cap hit to keep them above the cap “floor”.

by zandar on Jun 29, 2010 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

If they need Preissing’s salary to move over the cap floor we would be in a sad, sad state of affairs.

by Dario on Jun 29, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

it’s actually a decent point. I’d rather have Michalek though. :)

by thedoctor on Jun 29, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah Michalek looks like the one to go after and possibly a 4th line center (Malhotra?). Otherwise the Avs are overstocked with players.

by zandar on Jun 29, 2010 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

not really sad...

i’m sure a few other teams would die to have the Avs young nucleus that will be relatively cheap for the next year or two… and not just because they will be cheap.

by zandar on Jun 29, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

This thought could spin some of us into depression. Talk about sending the wrong message.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Jun 29, 2010 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I imagine that being a very good likelihood. I would imagine that at the max 2 rookie D for the Avs though. That still leaves 8 in Erie, thus Macias will probably get moved to forward. That will be balance. Any which way, Erie talent on D got a whole lot better. They might have 5 new faces on the blueline from last year. It will be fun to keep an eye on them this year. I just hope Pressing doesn’t corrupt them.

by avalanchejef on Jun 28, 2010 10:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Wolski

I imagine it’s been discussed here, but what was everyone’s take on Wolski’s $3.8 million deal?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Not too high

If he were being paid per turnover. I don’t think he’s worth that much, but at least they only committed to two years. He’ll probably Wolski his way out of town before the deal is over.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 28, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

If he were being paid per turnover

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by Mrs @ MHH on Jun 28, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Now you’re thinking of Hensick. The LEMs successfully put a donut on a stick taped to the top of his helmet to get him to skate.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jun 28, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol! I really was just thinking with my stomach. I read that sentence and automatically thought that. Sad state of affairs over here!

by Mrs @ MHH on Jun 28, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

These constant Arby’s references have to stop! You’re his wife for Pete’s sake!

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the two year deal shows they aren’t all in on him. I think after that two year deal he’s a UFA as well. Far as I’m concerned, they paid him what he’s worth.

by Dario on Jun 28, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

less than I thought, still too much. can’t wait for phx fans to experience “not playing for contract” Wolski.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree, though I won’t wish that on them for fear that the same thing will bite us re: Ferris & Brewski.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

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  • The Avalanche are considering putting an offer together for Ray Whitney and/or Matt Cullen, as are the Blue Jackets. The Flames are also in on Cullen
  • The Bruins may look to Marek Svatos for some offense.
  • The Sabres are going hard after a few defensemen…Two who come to the forefront as of now are Kubina and Martin. One source in Buffalo is convinced one of the two, plus a lesser d-man will be a Sabre (perhaps Brett Clarke)

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 11:53 AM MDT reply actions  

and the Avs are signing Tyler Arnason to a five-year, $5.5 million/yr deal.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, I don’t mean to be snarky, but this is Eklund, right?

"Being called an off-the-board pick, I love it. I can’t wait to prove everyone wrong and show that’s where I belong to be drafted." - Joey Hishon

by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

e5 Baby!

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eklund surprisingly got that one right

he had that next to my name

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just reporting the only info out on the AVs right now.

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by BryceLeo on Jun 28, 2010 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I know

That wasn’t a knock on you. That was just a joke about Eklund and how hit and miss his stuff can be. I’d rather read something than nothing so keep posting it! =)

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eklund’s more like miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…
miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…
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miss…miss…miss…miss…miss…HOLY SHIT A HIT!

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by Americanario on Jun 28, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way watching the Giants play

/baseball joke

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ditto for the Cubbies.

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by Joe Dunman on Jun 28, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ditto for the Broncos front seven.

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by Dixomatic on Jun 28, 2010 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Post bye-week or pre?

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 28, 2010 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Bruins must be pretty desperate for offense, if they’re going after our Enforcer.

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by Drakenlot on Jun 28, 2010 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cheechoo and Kotalik on waivers

Big D and big shot? I kinda thought Cheechoo was a product of Thorton, but I think he has a good snipping shot

by avalanchejef on Jun 28, 2010 1:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Cheechoo is D-U-N done. Sin him for LE only.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

56 goals to only 5 in 4 years is weird.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jun 28, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

He blew out his knee at least once (though I think twice). Major injury plus being taken off the wing of an excellent centerman (Thornton) can really put a crimp in your scoring line.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Leave it to you…lol

"Being called an off-the-board pick, I love it. I can’t wait to prove everyone wrong and show that’s where I belong to be drafted." - Joey Hishon

by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can never un-see that!

by Mrs @ MHH on Jun 28, 2010 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

precisely

"Being called an off-the-board pick, I love it. I can’t wait to prove everyone wrong and show that’s where I belong to be drafted." - Joey Hishon

by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

I’m still laughing over that one

by sheese on Jun 29, 2010 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Report from TSN.

Says that for sure, 1 other team was looking to draft our 1st round smurf.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=325965

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by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Joey Hishon?

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sandie

"We called him Clark Kent because away from the rink, he was just a nerd. Then he'd go into the Colorado dressing room and put on his Avs jersey, and all of a sudden he was Super Joe"- Theo Fleury

by Sandie Gauthier on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dater's prediction (via twitter):
my prediction: stewart $2.8-3 cap hit. mueller 2-2.5, yip 1-1.2, quincey 1.5 or so

Stewart seems a bit low, Mueller a little high, Yip about right. Thoughts?

I know this is an old tweet but I’m bored at work.

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by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 3:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Quincey seems incredibly low. the others are pretty close to what I’ve seen and think.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I asked someone before and they said to expect 2.5.

Sandie

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jun 28, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

2.5 seems really high to me. I’d put in him around ~2. I thought he started the season out tremendously and sort of coasted the rest of the way. If he played consistently like he did the first 1/4 of the season, 2.5 -3 would seem about right.

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by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

stewart seems high to me, i said earlier anything above 2 would be surprising

mueller also seems high, yip and quincey seem fair

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by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dater

Something brewing with Avs. Could be a trade here shortly, Post has learned

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:28 PM MDT reply actions  

i think that’s just Joe brewing coffee in the retirement lounge

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by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve got something brewing…. had a burrito for lunch

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Denver Post news: Avs acquire Dan Winik from Phoenix for 4th round pick next year

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who?

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dater spelled it wrong.

Dan Winnik (two N’s)

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by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

6'2", 210 lbs. 25 years old.

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/54625/Daniel_Winnik

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

4-15-19 +1

decent numbers, maybe he replaces tucker?

Is it October yet?!

by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

i would guess he’s a 4th liner to start. this might be an indication we’re not re-signing Hendricks. :(

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

that would really suck

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

:(

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

it seems to be a waste of a 4th. I think I would rather have Hendricks

by avalanchejef on Jun 28, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

He could be replacing Chris “I take bad penalties” Durno.

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by InYoFace on Jun 28, 2010 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

that would really define suck in all its manifold forms

Fixed.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Has Yelle decided on coming back?

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by Drakenlot on Jun 28, 2010 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

No big loss there.

by DetAvs on Jun 28, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I take it you arent a fan of Hendrix

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by Drakenlot on Jun 29, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Avs missed Hendricks when he was out.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Jun 29, 2010 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

definitely a 4th liner. I like him, he brings some size and can skate. Known as a penalty killer and defensive guy. They need to keep hendricks he’s valuable as a 4th liner

by hockeyexpert on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

This guy sounds solid.

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

Screw the Wings.

by i2strange97 on Jun 28, 2010 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

once we have Kovie, all future drafts are meaningless

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

And so it has been written in the book of Kovie, “Fret not my Avalanche brothers for your savior is at hand!”

Brannigan's Law is like Brannigan's love, hard and fast.

by InYoFace on Jun 28, 2010 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

KOVIE 3:16

Is it October yet?!

by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Scripture reference?

Or his scoring line on opening nights vs. the Hawks?

3-16-19.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jun 28, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Scripture reference

but the second option also works

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by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Stone Cold Steve Austin.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 28, 2010 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

well with that idea in mind...

Why don’t the Avs also just make a big offer to a RFA and make sure they don’t have picks laying around to have to deal with.

by zandar on Jun 28, 2010 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe they are expecting a weak draft.

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by InYoFace on Jun 28, 2010 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

a weak draft class, I should say.

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by InYoFace on Jun 28, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

damn, I was going to make an Islanders joke right there… oh well

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

that was the original thoughts on next year...

but a few people have been saying the reason this year was all over the place was due to a so so draft and next year will be great.

by zandar on Jun 28, 2010 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

The 2011 Draft is widely considered to be the worst in a decade. You should see plenty of overagers taken.

by DetAvs on Jun 28, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I heard next years draft isn’t that good

by avalanchejef on Jun 28, 2010 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed, why didn’t they use one this year and trade up in the draft

by hockeyexpert on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who says they didn’t try? You think the Avs front office is the only one aware that next year’s talent pool may be a little shallow? Give the other GM’s just a little bit of credit (except Snow, of course).

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 29, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

rights to Kovi traded to the Avs.

/kingofwishfulthinking

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

twitter

how do i follow someone on twitter? i have no idea…

by caboose on Jun 28, 2010 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Click on their name and go to their page. There’s a button under their profile name.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jun 28, 2010 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

so, let me get this straight: you guys have 7 UFA’s and 5 RFA’s?

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by missy on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM MDT reply actions  

correct

Is it October yet?!

by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

And

Very few of those UFA’s are coming back. The more important players are the RFA’s.

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by InYoFace on Jun 28, 2010 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

i’d like to hear some numbers for stewie, ferris, bag of pucks quincey and yip

anyone know the $$?

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by horbayj on Jun 28, 2010 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did you include Daniel Winnik? He’s an RFA

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by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

let me get this straight: you guys are ok cheering for a team with Alex Burrows?

i keed, i keed…and yes, that’s the FA score. though one of the RFAs, Porter, is re-signed. we actually had 9 UFas, but we re-signed Budaj and Koci (facepalm to Koci). Most, if not all, of the other UFAs are gone. Hendricks, Durno, and Yelle would be the only remaining UFA guys potentially coming back, and certainly not all of them.

by thedoctor on Jun 28, 2010 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

"Here's your dream: Matt Duchene, can he do it?... HE CAN! HE DID IT! MATT DUCHENE AND THE AVS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS!" - Mike Haynes

by smoky201 on Jun 28, 2010 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

wonder trading for this guy is one of Ferris Mueller’s contract demands???

by jd21 on Jun 28, 2010 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

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