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With the return of old man Adam Foote, we unfortunately don't get to spend the summer debating who should be the next captain of the Colorado Avalanche. In fact, it will be very surprising if Paul Stastny and Milan Hejduk don't retain the A's on their jerseys as well. But, hell, speculating on how the the Avs are going to meet the cap floor is getting to be pretty mind-numbingly boring, so let's take a look at the leaders of this club anyway. 

Long time assistant captain Adam Foote took his well-deserved place as captain last season. Footer doesn't really seem to fit in with the team identity of speed and puck-pressure that allowed the Avs to be successful (though the collapsing defense of the entire defensive corps didn't really fit) but his smarts allowed him to stay in the play. From a team perspective, I wasn't exactly jumping for joy when he decided to stay on another year. But from a leadership perspective, how could I be less than thrilled? You know that he is gonna challenge the young guns to be at their best each and every night and I'm sure the plethora of young defensemen will be lucky to have him as a mentor. On the ice he also adds a bit of snarl that I feel is in short supply, especially on defense. Stewart is tough and Gali was nasty in the playoffs but Cody McLeod pulled a disappearing act during much of the season and Tucker and Koci were/are useless.  So, with no heir-apparent for captain and no one to replace his role on the blueline, I'd rather have the shadow of Adam Foote than no Adam Foote at all.

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The 'veteran' center Paul Stastny is supposed to be the offensive leader of this team and the person Sacco seemed to lean on when the team needed a goal. He was 18th overall in points and 8th among centers so I think its fair to say that he came through. He does run hot and cold and isn't as clutch as I would like the team's best forward to be (to be fair, though, Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg might have spoiled me when it comes to clutch play) but he absolutely is a leader on this team. I'm not sure I see him as captain, though. If Matt Duchene can become the superstar that he looks like he can be, I think that Stastny can flourish as the second-line center and long-time assistant captain. It will be interesting this season to see if we've already seen what SoS can do or if he can take his play up another notch and make me reevaluate my opinion him as the next captain.

With the departure of Darcy Tucker, Milan Hejduk is the sole forward over thirty currently on the team (only member over 26, in fact, Koci excluded) and because of that is assistant captain almost by default. Hejduk is one of the best players the franchise had ever had and one of my favorite players ever but he never really struck me as the leader type. I expect him to consistently pot goals but I never really expect him to go out and do something when the team is desperate. And I've noticed him ratchet up his intensity during  a big game. Then again, maybe his relentlessly calm attitude is more helpful than I give credit for on such a young team. I certainly don't begrudge Hejduk his 'A' since there is no one more deserving on the team at the moment but, I don't know, Hejduk just never seemed like captain material to me. 

Matt Duchene was hyped as a leader coming out of the draft after standing out in the playoffs on the very good Brampton Battalion. He obviously had a bit of trouble adjusting to the NHL last season and because of that, he didn't really seem to become a leader on the team. He has the makings, though, as he is smart, serious and never seems to take a shift off. I feel like he is still the best candidate to become the captain of this franchise in the future though, admittedly, he has yet to prove himself.

The other teen rookie center showed some flashes of leadership. Ryan O'Reilly was one of the few players who seemed to kick it into another gear when the team was struggling and for much of the season he was Sacco's go to guy for defensive zone faceoffs. However, his faceoff numbers weren't as good as the go to guy's should have been and his extra gear rarely resulted in points. If he can continue to become an elite defender and up his point totals into the forty or fifty range then a letter on his sweater in the future is not out of the question.

T.J. Galiardi was great during the regular season and the playoffs because he played his heart out every shift. There was no other player (save perhaps Matt Hendricks) with a higher compete level than Galiardi. I think as far as point production, he probably tops out in the fifty range, maybe sixty on a good year. But he is superb defensively and brings some physicality. He's an excellent on ice leader and to tell the truth, I'd love to see him with an 'A' on his jersey, even as soon as next season if Hejduk or Foote go down with an injury.   

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my question – with Tucker gone, where the hell is O’Reilly going to live?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 29, 2010 9:48 AM MDT reply actions  

He could do the Crosby thing and live at Enos Stanley’s house for a few years.

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by wtnelson on Jul 29, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Considering that fact that Tucker doesn’t have a job, maybe he’ll stay home and live off what he charges O’Reilly in rent.

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by Americanario on Jul 29, 2010 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

He still gets a mill a season from the Leafs for another four years. God, if only even to be a terrible NHL player…

by cbernardin on Jul 30, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just read how Mickey Tettleton is getting $1.7M from the Texas Rangers this season. Tettleton hasn’t played baseball since 1997.

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by Dixomatic on Jul 30, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe the texas rangers and the new york rangers do have something in common

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by TheRed on Jul 30, 2010 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

oh, and how weird is it that the 4th oldest player on the team is Johnny freaking Liles. You know who else is one of the older ones? Peter Budaj. man.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 29, 2010 9:55 AM MDT reply actions  

No doubt, you’re getting old.

by Dario on Jul 29, 2010 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

It is all part of barely hitting the cap floor building from within.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

On the ice he also adds a bit of snarl that I feel is in short supply

He was the one guy I knew would kick the crap out of anyone messing with Andy.

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by hockeymom on Jul 29, 2010 10:02 AM MDT reply actions  

I wish Quincey had some of this.

by Dario on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I totally agree on Foote, well said.

For what it’s worth, O’Reilly was universally touted as a leader going in to the draft. So much so in fact, his teammates pretty much “gushed” over him about what a great leader he was. Now, so far he’s not projecting to be a top six kind of player which makes a “C” pretty unlikely. I think Duchene still projects to be the future captain because Stastny is so reserved. No matter what happens I think it’s going to boil down to one of the three young centers, Stastny, Duchene or O’Reilly. Shattenkirk is going in to his 2nd NHL season when the C becomes available (if Foote retires next year) so that leaves him kind of in a poor spot to earn the captaincy.

by Dario on Jul 29, 2010 10:04 AM MDT reply actions  

Damn

So much for the Captain Kirk nickname.

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by hockeymom on Jul 29, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

They could always give him an “A” and that nickname still applies. Else we can pretend the “A” stands for Admiral and then we’ll have Admiral Kirk which is just about as fun.

Myself, I’m hoping O’Reilly really steps up and deserves the Captaincy. Matty would make a better Alternate imho.

by MalachiConstant on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Assistant Captains are still captains, so the nickname could still be used. First Ensign Kirk needs to make it to the league…and then bring Ensign Pickard along.

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by Americanario on Jul 29, 2010 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Assistant Captains Alternate Captains

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by smoky201 on Jul 29, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Technicalities, smechnicalities….

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by Americanario on Jul 29, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would be shocked if it wasn’t Duchene. Stastny’s more of an “A” guy to me.

Who’s going to wear that last A this next year? Foote = C, Stastny, Hejduk = A for sure…Liles? Duchene? Hannan? O’Reilly?

My money is on Duchene.

by thedoctor on Jul 29, 2010 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Duchene still has too much “aw shucks” in him. I just can’t picture it. yet.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

who can out-awshucks the toher, stastny or duchene!

seriously, I think Duchene oozes leadership potential, just the ethic and class is already so evident.

by thedoctor on Jul 29, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but wouldn’t you have said the same thing about SuperJoe ca. 1988-1990?

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by Hopfenkopf on Jul 29, 2010 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

i put my money on radar o’reilly. i think the kid will make a big jump next year in production and really earn that C

by canucklehead272 on Jul 29, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mike Keane was never a top 6 guy and he was the captain of the Canadians. I think it’s how you do your role rather than where you play. RO could become the captain. Someone who doesn’t listen to the captain because he’s a 3rd liner is someone you ultimately don’t want on the team.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

chris clarke with the caps for a while, he wore the C for years over guys like ovi and semin

by canucklehead272 on Jul 29, 2010 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kelly Buchberger w/ edmonton

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by TheRed on Jul 29, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Until they unceremoniously dumped him mid-season to Columbus. Shows how little the C really means.

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by Dan Winkler on Jul 30, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was going to point that out. Kinda seemed to me like they were just looking for a reason to give Ovi the C. Getting rid of Clark was the best way to do it.

by cbernardin on Jul 30, 2010 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

You know, a couple years back, Stastny was having a legitimate MVP-type season before the appendicitis derailed him. I really think he was kinda stuck being a jack-of-all-trades last year, and he did it very well. He was the defensive ace, penalty killer, top-line center, first power-play guy, and his linemates changed constantly due to injuries. Don’t forget that TJ Galiardi, who is an excellent 3rd-liner in my opinion, was his LW at the end of the year. Throw in the fact that he was playing a little different, almost power-forward type role with the Olympic squad, I think last year was just a down year points-wise.

He needs good wingers to be good. He’s more Thornton than Forsberg or Sakic. If Stewart becomes a 35-40 goal guy this year and Galiardi shows that he can pot 20 in kind of an Andrew Brunette type role, Stastny will pretty easily hit the 90 point mark, I think. Don’t discount the presence of Mueller, Shattenkirk, sometimes Liles, and perhaps and improved Quincey on the PP.

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by wtnelson on Jul 29, 2010 10:44 AM MDT reply actions  

I really think he was kinda stuck being a jack-of-all-trades last year, and he did it very well.

Agreed. He was taking many of our important offensive zone AND defensive zone faceoffs last year (until Yelle came back). He had to play a lot of defense, a lot of everything.

If Radar, Duchene, and Gallardi could even get a little better at faceoffs, it’s already a big load off of Stastny.

Throw in the fact that he was playing a little different, almost power-forward type role with the Olympic squad

I square some of the blame for Stastny’s Olympic performance on Patrick Kane being on his line. That was just too much playmaking on a single line. Personnel may have left them with no other choice, but it was really irritating to watch Stastny and Parise charge over the blue line and make a pass to Kane who’d do some spin-o-rama and a giveaway.

In any case, Paul had big responsibility at the Olympics as well, and while he came back tired, he was a better player and leader down the stretch to the playoffs, and I do think it was from his experience there.

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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jul 29, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

i like the galiardi brunette comparison, except gally is a far better skater

by canucklehead272 on Jul 29, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

The nostalgic part of me would like to see Paul take the captaincy, since it’ll make sure that if/when 26 goes back up in the rafters, it has the C on it.

And I maintain that Paul has the right attitude and toughness to wear the C. When he wasn’t injured during the 08-09 season, he was still trying to elevate his teammates and never looked shaken by the problems happening around him. His interviews are a bit goofy sometimes, but I find it endearing.

And as far as the hot/cold streaks, a consistent LW and a full season of Chris Stewart should help put those concerns to rest.

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by FiveJeffFingerDiscount on Jul 29, 2010 10:45 AM MDT reply actions  

Foote is good for captain.

Stastny needs to be less invisible. Maybe he’s a good team leader behind closed doors, but I don’t really see it as much on the ice or in public.

Hejduk is another good behind closed doors leader.

Liles could step up as a leader if his drama from last season is all done.

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by gl avfan on Jul 31, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think as of right now

Our best future leaders are Duchene, O’Reilly, and Stastny.
Those three will all be wearing letters soon enough.

Remember, O’Reilly was Captain for two of his World Junior teams. Kid is a leader already.

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by Drakenlot on Jul 31, 2010 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Should they give the “C” to Stastny after Footer leaves I doubt they will ever take it away from him, even if Matty or Radar prove more deserving in a few years. That seems like a pretty likely scenario to me given how young the rest of the team leaders are.

by MalachiConstant on Jul 29, 2010 11:29 AM MDT reply actions  

I don’t see how you can say that duchene obviously struggled to adjust to the nhl. He led rookie scoring almost the entire year. Sure there were stretches where he didn’t score much but I’ve seen sakic go through that many times. Also, duchene looked awesome even when he didn’t get on the board. I really think he’s going to be the #1 center on this team soon.

by mcarson01 on Jul 29, 2010 2:00 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I recall him even admitting to it early in the season when he was snake-bit and couldn’t put a goal in. Plenty of pipes, but no goals. He didn’t have to adjust a lot, but I think the quicker pace and better goaltending required some adjusting for him. Mind you he was still a very good player, but I think the point is that he was working out his own kinks and was not in a position to pick up the team on his shoulders.

by MalachiConstant on Jul 29, 2010 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, remember his first nickname around here is “Ding”.

by Mrs @ MHH on Jul 29, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hahaha… I had forgotten that…. that was funny…. but soooo true.

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by i2strange97 on Jul 29, 2010 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

How is that from every rookie to ever step on the ice though?

by mcarson01 on Jul 29, 2010 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Edit: How is that different from every rookie to ever step on the ice though?

by mcarson01 on Jul 30, 2010 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s not? If most rookies struggle to adjust to the NHL, then Matty was no different. “Ding” definitely struggled a bit at the start.

by MalachiConstant on Jul 30, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

That 3rd game against Chicago early in the season where he dinged two wide open nets with under 5 minutes…ouch. I think that’s when the “ding” began

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by chiavsfan on Jul 30, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

It didn’t help when he “dinged” one or two and had one taken away in Pittsburgh either.

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by Americanario on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah but even early on he displayed some awesome moves that just didn’t make it to the back of the net. To me, that’s just a typical cycle of a pro hockey player, when they go in, they go in a lot and when they don’t, it becomes a dry spell. Maybe you just expected more I guess. I don’t think I could have asked for a better season from him. I just hope there’s many more to come.

by mcarson01 on Jul 30, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stastny for the next Captain

by Avs_Man on Jul 29, 2010 8:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Good article

It’s about time Footer got some love around here. He is a top bloke. True, he’s not as quick as he was but he was the one who got really fed up with people running Andy and he beat the shit out of Ballard for doing it.

He was geeing up Duchene for the shootout goal that took the Avs into the playoffs, he is a great leader, even if his technical proficiency is down, somewhat. I think he is underrated for his presence on the ice.

I think it is really good news that he is staying for another season, because it gives the Avs management a chance to see who next gets the “C.” I would be okay with either Stastny or Duchene, but for some reason, Duchene seems to be a little better fit, in my mind.

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by Nemesis44UK on Jul 30, 2010 2:21 AM MDT reply actions  

Remember how he reacted after the playoff loss? I think that screams team leader.

by sheese on Jul 30, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

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by Beachie on Jul 30, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

is that from after the playoffs? nice shot…

by thedoctor on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was taken after game 6. IIRC, Dater (or someone) said it was taken 20 or so minutes after the game ended and he had been like that much of the time.

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by Beachie on Jul 31, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

or should I say 20 minutes after they got into the locker room… I can’t find where I read it, but the article said he just shut everyone out and, for lack of a better word, absorbed the loss. This picture, that description, is what sold me on him becoming the next captain.

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by Beachie on Jul 31, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

He will remember that moment for the rest of his life.

Due to that memory, I think we will see a work-ethic and determination come out of him that has never before been seen in the NHL.
It’s moments like that where the heart of a warrior is born.

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by Luxury Yacht on Jul 31, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

“My head laid bloodied, but sill unbowed”

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by Americanario on Jul 31, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Foote

May end up being a Brindamour-like situation this year where we end up healthy scratching our captain on a semi-regular basis.

Assuming one of the rookies can step up in camp, Foote can and should be our seventh defenseman this season. Afterall, it’s not like he’s the future of this franchise and will benefit from the ice time. If anything, he will benefit more by working on his head coaching resume.

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by Dixomatic on Jul 30, 2010 11:53 AM MDT reply actions  

national media

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/teams/colorado-avalanche/

mentioned this article. way to go!

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