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Report: Kovalchuk to Devils?

7 years; $60 million; $8.571429 cap hit.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326655

I'm really curious about this.  The Kings have said that they are out of the running  and the Islanders reportedly offered the same 10 year $100 million deal that Atlanta had on the table before they were forced to trade him.  Lamoriello has said that he would move other players if need be to sign Ilya Kovalchuk.  But, who does he move?

According to capgeek, the Devils already have $55,391,666 committed to just 18 players.  Patrik Elias is the team's highest paid player at $6 million and he's a life long Devil with a NMC.  Martin Brodeur is the next highest paid player at $5.2 million and he's not going anywhere.  After that comes Brian Rolston, who's got 2 years left on a 35+ contract that pays him just over $5 million.  He would be the ideal candidate to go, IMO.  But, no one's going to want to take on that contract.

Jason Arnott, Henrik Tallinder, Anton Volchenkov are all guys that they either just traded for or signed but are making salaries in the $4 million range.  Arnott and Volchenkov have an NMC and an NTC, respectively.

Also keep in mind that Zach Parise's only making $3.125 million in the final year of his deal before he becomes an RFA.

I'm not saying that he won't be able to do it.  Lamoriello's been very creative at managing his cap situation in the past.  I'm just curious to see how this whole thing would play out.

The guys over at In Lou We Trust are of course on top of this.

They linked to a Larry Brooks Tweet which suggests some possible candidates to move if this deal happens.

Patrik Elias has a no move. Expect Salvador to be waived at camp. Perhaps Zubrus can be dealt. Maybe Langenbrunner goes in deal.

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probably trade, demote, or buy out Roloston

the good news… Parise may be trade bait as he is due a large raise after this year and it would be near impossible to keep him with Kovie, Brodeur, AV, Elias, Tallinder, etc all on the team

by zandar on Jul 5, 2010 12:31 PM MDT reply actions  

White could also be trade bate...

More than likely he will try to get under the cap and go all out at the trade deadline to make a serious run…

by zandar on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, White and Rolston both have NTC’s. I would think that Salvador’s more likely to be moved than is White.

8 of the Devils’ 18 signed players have NTC’s or NMC’s. These clauses have become important factors in contract negotiations and really let the players dictate where they play. But, I really think that they’re starting to get handed out like candy and teams should be limited in the number of them they can have. I don’t think any team should have more than four or five. Take a look at Calgary for example, 7 of their 8 highest paid forwards have some form of NTC, along with Kipper, Regehr and Bouwmeester for a total of 10 for 21 signed players.

by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 5, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rolston’s on a 35+ year old contract. His cap number still counts if he’s demoted or bought out. Their only option with him is to trade him. I certainly still think he’s a valuable 2nd/3rd line player. Can play any position, good for a point every other game, very solid two way player, can play the point on the power play and has a hard shot. But at his age and at $5 million + for him, it’s a bit much.

by c0nquistad0rian on Jul 5, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

this is Lou Lamiorello we’re talking about. he’ll figure it out

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jul 5, 2010 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lou must have seen something I didn’t in the 20 some odd regular season games and 5 playoff games Kovalchuk played with the Devils. I have Centre Ice and I was intrigued by the trade that brought him to the Devils, so I watched every game — including playoffs — that he played with them. What did I miss? Seriously, he got a point a game but I didn’t sense any chemistry or “click” at all. He seemed to float a lot, and he surprised me by backchecking sometimes; but mostly the Devils seemed to just be on-again-off-again. The Flyers defeated them easily which is surprising given the division win and Marty Brodeur in net and Parise up front. Guess that’s why Lou gets the big $$ and I wonder what’s up with trading for/signing Kovalchuk.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 5, 2010 1:58 PM MDT reply actions  

They’ll have to move somebody to get under the cap and they can’t stash Rolston in the AHL as he was 35+ when he signed his recent contract. Next year will be an interesting off-season as well as assuming if they do sign Kovalchuk, they’ll have nearly $50 million committed to just 12 players. Parise is a RFA after 10-11. It’ll be some interesting times…

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by Angélique C. Murray on Jul 5, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

I didn’t blame them for the move. At the time, they were looking at facing Pittsburgh and Washington in the playoffs and needed to firepower. Best laid plans and such made sure the whole point was moot, but I definitely saw the point of bringing in Kovie. The Devils just laid another first-round egg.

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by Dixomatic on Jul 6, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

At least it’s f#cking over.

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by i2strange97 on Jul 5, 2010 1:59 PM MDT reply actions  

Although, I wish we could have offered him that deal.

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by i2strange97 on Jul 5, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Would have cost the Avs slightly more...

And hurt them later with staying under the cap and resigning players to solid contracts.

by zandar on Jul 5, 2010 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Probably a lot more sense he turned down the Kings 10 for 10. I don’t think it’s as simple as just talking him into it. To Kovi, the Avs are just another 1 out of 30 teams. The Devils are a team that he’s had a short experience with, which can count for a lot.

by mcarson01 on Jul 5, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Parise

Is going to get at least $6M or $7M per year. No way they can afford that.

I think they’re just going for it this year. Maybe we’ll start seeing more “Chicago” teams win…teams that went over the cap and sacrificed the future to win now.

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by BraxtanFILM on Jul 5, 2010 3:34 PM MDT reply actions  

I think you hit the nail right on the head. I see teams using Chicago’s recent success as a blueprint for their own strategy. Get a couple good youngsters (Teows and Kane) to build around, which may require a couple early picks. Let the youngsters develop for a couple years until they are capable of a great season that just falls short. Then fill the holes with a few proven vets (Hossa, Versteeg etc…), which will get them into trouble with the cap eventually. That’s not too far from what the Avs strategy was to win their first cup. They had two solid youngsters in Sakic and Forsberg which eventually led them to a great season that fell short. They filled the holes with Lemieux and Roy which brought them success which they were able to continue with spending because of the non-cap era.

by mcarson01 on Jul 5, 2010 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Devils fans over at In Lou We Trust seem to think that keeping Parise will be no problem, because Arnott’s $4.5 million comes off the books at the end of this season.

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by Dan Winkler on Jul 5, 2010 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kovalchuk’s agent tweets the following:

Jay_Grossman: Ilya Kovalchuk choices have been narrowed down, details to be finalized but no announcement tonight….

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by Angélique C. Murray on Jul 5, 2010 6:16 PM MDT reply actions  

I’m so sick of this guy! Did he sign, or didn’t he? Does he even want to play hockey?

I’m going to be the first off the Kovie bandwagon on this site and say, “Go F*** yourself, Kovalchuk”.

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by BraxtanFILM on Jul 5, 2010 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

It seems for the past few years some superstar keeps the entire hockey world waiting for no apparent reason.

Sundin, Forsberg, Kovalchuk. I’m sure there are plenty of others I can’t remember right now.

The no apparent reason is usually the team they had waiting with baited breath goes out in the first or second round of the playoffs. If they make it at all.

How did Sundin do for the ‘Nucks? Yeah, not to well if I remember correctly. I hate to say it, but the last team Forsberg helped to the Cup was the ’01 Avs. The teams he’s joined since then have made the playoffs, but I don’t think they’ve made it to the conference finals, let alone the Cup finals.

Now watch. After all of this crap this off season, the team Kovy joins will do a whole bunch of nothing this season. After that, they’ll have a huge contract…and more nothing.

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by Luxury Yacht on Jul 6, 2010 12:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Sundin: Old and washed up, held out for a big chunk of the season before signing with the Canucks. Forsberg: Injury riddled and unsure if he’d ever play again. Signed very late with the Avs and helped them to make the playoffs and get past round 1. Kovie: Young, in his prime, taking (gasp) almost a week to sign as a UFA with someone for a long-term deal. Apples: meet an Orange. This post didn’t make any sense.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jul 6, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Circumstances may vary, but the fundamentals are the same. One player, seemingly holding the rest of the league hostage. He’s the only guy anybody is talking about until this all blows over.

Also, I don’t seem to recall Forsberg and Sundin signing somewhere, then apparently not signing, then no wait, he signed…no he didn’t.

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by BraxtanFILM on Jul 6, 2010 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair, a lot of that is the media/bloggers jumping to conclusions to try to be the first out with the story. And since bloggers have no repercussions for being wrong, the rumor becomes the story.

But I remember there being a lot of speculation as to where Forsberg was going before leaving Philly for Nashville.

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by Dixomatic on Jul 6, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember a lot of speculation when Forsberg left Philly; but even if there was it was a trade, not free agency. So unless Forsberg had a NTC and was going back and forth about waiving it, it isn’t comparable here.

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by Americanario on Jul 6, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

The media is certainly as much to blame as anybody.

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by BraxtanFILM on Jul 6, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Somehow I get the feeling this isn’t over yet.

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by Pinchy The Lobster on Jul 6, 2010 6:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Kings back in it?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matthew-Barry/Kings-Back-In-Kovalchuk-Sweeps/125/29235

Granted it’s HockeyBuzz…

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by Angélique C. Murray on Jul 6, 2010 11:37 PM MDT reply actions  

And right back out.

by mcarson01 on Jul 8, 2010 7:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Several sources familiar with the situation but not authorized to talk publicly said Kovalchuk hasn’t compromised on an average annual value of $10 million, close to the NHL-leading $9.538-million average Washington’s Alexander Ovechkin earns in a 13-year deal.

Enjoy the KHL, Kovie.

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by Dixomatic on Jul 8, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like how they carried Ovie’s contract out to three decimal places. That $38K is important in negotiations.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jul 9, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

frankly I was ok with Pi being 3, but I’m not a math guy.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

THIS is funny.

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by i2strange97 on Jul 10, 2010 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

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