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A Very Busy Day


Funny, isn't it. After a summer-long dry spell in the Avalanche news department, today marked a Theo Fleury of Avalanche news. Here's a run down.

First and foremost, Avalanche owner Stan Kroenke received approval by the NFL to complete his purchase of the St Louis Rams for a reported $750 million (or, as I like to put it, 7.5 Kovalchuks). The catch? Due to the NFL's cross-owernship rules, Kroenke will have to hand over financial and operational control of the Avalanche and Nuggets to his son Josh by this December and give up his majority ownership in both clubs by 2014. Josh currently has a very hands-on role with the Nuggets (perhaps, according to some, far too hands-on), but isn't believed to be very involved with the Avalanche. How will this transfer change the way the Avalanche are run? It's hard to say, but I do find it ironic that St Louis Rams fans are welcoming the elder Kroenke and the potential stability he will bring to the franchise. Must be nice.

So while St Louis enters into sunshine and rainbow territory, the Avalanche front office continues to embrace the rebuild. Today, the Vancouver Canucks signed forward Raffi Torres to a 1-year deal. Torres, of course, is far too expensive for the Avalanche. However, his $1-million price tag was just right for a team that is now about $3.5 million over the cap. In other news, the Los Angeles Kings signed Willie Mitchell to a 2-year deal worth $3.5 million per year. The Kings, like the Avalanche, are in the midst of a major rebuild and, like the Avalanche, are very concerned with making sure they can retain their young nucleus down the road. Unlike the Avalanche, however, the Kings have found a way to work in deals for useful veterans like Mitchell, Alex Ponikarovsky and former Avalanche Ryan Smyth. Oh, and they even made a legitimate run at Ilya Kovalchuk. Go figure.

Star-divide

While I may not sound all that optimistic about the Avs' chances this year, TV execs are clearly impressed. The NHL's television schedule was announced today and the Avalanche will appear 14 times on nationally broadcast games - 5 times on Versus, twice on CBC and  7 times on TSN or RDS in Canada. Last year, the Avalanche had just 8 national games...less if you count the games that the jerkwads at Versus and DirecTV took away (yes, still bitter).

In other scheduling news, the Lake Erie Monsters' schedule has been released. While I yet again will not have a chance to see the Monsters in my neck of the woods, fans in Syracuse, Oklahoma City, Austin, Houston, Toronto, Grand Rapids, Chicago, Rockford, Abbotsford, Milwaukee, Peoria, Hamilton, Hershey, Winnipeg and Rochester will have a chance to see their favorite future Avs in person.

Finally, the Avalanche have released their jersey number assignments for the upcoming season. While there were a slew of changes last year, this year there are just 4 changes. Brandon Yip will trade in his #59 for the #18 he wore at BU; it's a big sweater to fill, having been previously worn by Adam Deadmarsh, Alex Tanguay and Chris Drury. Let the trade rumors begin! Meanwhile, Kevin Porter will switch from #32 to #12, Justin Mercier will move from #43 to Darcy Tucker's #16 and Ray Macias will don my favorite number: 42.

Other noteworthy number assignments: Daniel Winnick will retain the #34 he wore with the Coyotes, Jonas Holos will wear the #6 he wore in the Olympics, Kevin Shattenkirk will wear Wojtek Wolski's old #8 while his former BU teammate will wear the #36 last worn by Steve Moore. Joey Hishon will wear #38...for now, at least.

The numbers for several unsigned Avs' have been given to new players, essentially confirming our assumption that these players will not be back. In addition to Tucker's #16 being given out, Marek Svatos' #40 has been claimed by Mark Olver. Sadly, Matt Hendrick's #15 has been assigned (to Zach Cohen), effectively eliminating hopes that the exuberant forward would return. And that #18 that Yip has taken belonged last year to Stephane Yelle. Again, we didn't think Yelle would return, but this all but seals it.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast of "Sleeping Through the Offseason" starring...us.

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88 and 25 are still there… LET OPTIMISM REIGN!!!

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by horbayj on Aug 25, 2010 5:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes!! Really, I can’t believe that this has taken this long with those 2 guys. I know the Avs are trying to save money, but they aren’t even at the cap floor, STILL, for crying out loud! How hard can this be?

by Kevin G on Aug 26, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

we all know how close to the vest the team keeps these things, so for a we know, they were signed two weeks ago and no one will know till TC

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by horbayj on Aug 26, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

They really do like to keep things close to the vest. In fact, the only reason we’re looking forward to the Avs this season is because we assume there will be a season. The Avs are doing their best to keep this secret to themselves.

"Half the game is mental; the other half is being mental." -- Jim McKenny

by Dixomatic on Aug 26, 2010 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

i still have hope that the avs are looking to trade at the end of all this. New Jersey? will be over the cap. Vancouver? already over the cap. several other teams pushing right up against the cap, you have to think with the number of guys who need to be shipped and the very small number of teams with cap space, that the avs will wind up with somebody…

by Cole D Hamilton on Aug 25, 2010 5:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Vancouver only LOOKS to be over the cap. They are 3.6 million over, but Sami Salo is injured, possibly for the entire season, so you can ignore his 3.5. Alex Burrows is also injured to start the season, so there’s another two million. They may not move anyone until they have to, at which time they’ll know exactly who they want to move out (and we may not even want that person by then).

by cbernardin on Aug 26, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

What’s it like to follow a team that wants to contend? I used to know …..

Your 2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Reaching Up to the Cap Floor

by Bob in Boulder on Aug 26, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ah, I’m an Avalanche follower myself, I just don’t comment very often. I personally hate the Canucks, and am pretty upset they signed Torres. I kinda wanted him for us, and I think it makes their top three lines really strong.

by cbernardin on Aug 26, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

my bad

I misread your last statement. And welcome! Agree that it would have been smart to sign Torres, especially for that price. I’m amazed he signed for that cheap, actually.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, dollar wise it’s a really good deal. I’m sure there are a couple other teams that are thinking they would’ve taken him for that cheap. He’s not a game breaker, but he still puts up good points on a second or third line.

by cbernardin on Aug 26, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he turn down major $$ with Columbus? Is playing third-line minutes in Van City (after everybody gets healthy) worth the paycut?

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by Mike @ MHH on Aug 26, 2010 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Columbus is far from a contender. Vancouver is undoubtedly a contender.

Plain and simple.

Dear Colorado Avalanche: Thank you for the excitement, see you in October.

by Drakenlot on Aug 27, 2010 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

But he turned down the cash before he was dealt to Buffalo. Unless he had a NTP, there was no guarantee he’d get a shot with a contender unless it was his intent to sleepwalk post-deadline and dip his toe in the FA waters. I don’t want a guy that can run that hot and cold, and Oil fans agree with me on that one.

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by Mike @ MHH on Aug 27, 2010 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

True, didn't think of that part of the story.

Dear Colorado Avalanche: Thank you for the excitement, see you in October.

by Drakenlot on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

More news

Sports Business Journal reports Donald Fehr has accepted the NHLPA Exec Director job.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 25, 2010 5:51 PM MDT reply actions  

good? bad? meh? what’s your reaction Jibs?

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by horbayj on Aug 25, 2010 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good

NHL needs a strong PA (something they haven’t had in a REALLY long time) and Fehr will make it strong.

And people worry about a strike, but in ’01 (after the devastating baseball strike) he understood that it was in the players best interest to get a deal done with the league. I think the NHL is in the same position now and that he (and the league) understand that a strike/lock-out would be devastating.

I hope it’s a short term kind of thing though. I am ok with him there for the next CBA negotiations, but anything longer than 5-6 years makes me nervous. I don’t really trust him that much, but the NHLPA needed an outsider to come in, and set up some sort of leadership structure that doesn’t involve a battle royal for the conch shell.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 25, 2010 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

would you mind if I quoted you in my new blog write up?

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by horbayj on Aug 25, 2010 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

no. Not sure I’m worth quoting though.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 25, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Make sure you don’t credit him.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Aug 25, 2010 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Google Translator did all the work for me ;)

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by horbayj on Aug 25, 2010 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dobrý

NHL potřebuje silnou PA (něco, co neměli v opravdu dlouho), a Fehr umožní silné.

A lidé obávají stávky, ale v ’01 (po ničivém úderu baseball), pochopil, že to bylo v nejlepším zájmu hráčů dostat řešení udělat s lize. Myslím, že NHL je ve stejné poloze nyní, a že on (a liga) pochopit, že stávka / lock-out by byla zničující.

Doufám, že to je krátkodobé takové věci ačkoli. Já jsem ok s ním tam na příští jednání CBA, ale něco déle než 5-6 roky je pro mě nervózní. Nemám důvěřovat mu, že moc, ale NHLPA potřebné outsider přijít, a nastavit nějaký vedení, strukturu, která nebude zahrnovat bitvu královský pro lastura.

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by i2strange97 on Aug 25, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve got Dave Fuller on the other line…he sees an article

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by horbayj on Aug 25, 2010 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dear Internet People,

While I “may” have first read a comment by one of your “bloggers” on your icky website, I am not obligated to credit said blogger or website for anything. First, I have a desk, with business cards and everything. I take lunch breaks and attend meetings. I am a professional, and as such, my boss says I don’t have too. The second reason I don’t have to credit anyone is due to the NFL’s cross-owernship rules, Kroenke will have to hand over financial and operational control of the Avalanche and Nuggets to his son Josh by this December and give up his majority ownership in both clubs by 2014. My third reason is 88 and 25 are still there… LET OPTIMISM REIGN!!! I hope this clarifies things for you morons. Please stop bothering me with emails, it really kills the amount of time I can spend on Internet Explorer working the beat.

So naner naner poo poo, stick you head in doo doo.

XOXOXOXO
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by i2strange97 on Aug 25, 2010 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

You’ve got to put a Czech on your plagairistic tendencies!

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 25, 2010 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

The LOTF reference alone makes it worth quoting.

by wickediz on Aug 26, 2010 2:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

What do you see as good about a strong PA?

by thedoctor on Aug 25, 2010 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t like what’s happened to the NFL, where guys can be waived and tossed aside because the team feels like it. I think it promotes irresponsible contracts, which lead to good players being cut because a team overpaid for them. For example, there’s no reason Dre Bly shouldn’t still be a Bronco, other than they vastly overpaid for his services because, who cares if you overpay. You just cut him

I think it has hurt the quality of play in the NFL tremendously as players are changed in and out like interchangeable parts. Not only that but it’s nearly impossible to follow a team anymore without putting hours into it. Rosters change so much, mainly because of all the player movement, and that all comes back to a weak NFLPA not being able to get guaranteed player contracts.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 25, 2010 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, i agree, but i hadn’t heard non-guaranteed contracts were being considered? And while it does generally help owners more, non-guaranteed contracts also can help players…see darrell revis.

I don’t mind a strong PA, but i feel like it’s more dangerous to the game than strong owners. Just look at the Nfl, it’s so popular and strong. Strong PAs end in strikes and crazy Nba shit.

I don’t care what happens as long as they don’t have a work stoppage, tbh. Fehr makes that more likely imo, so i’m kinda bummed. I hope you’re right he wont push for a strike…

by thedoctor on Aug 25, 2010 10:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m with the Doc on this one. I think Fehr increases the likelyhood of some kind of work stoppage in 2012. The Mayans missed it by a year. The world will end in September 2011.

My feeling is that the baseball post-strike situation in ’01 is different. Fehr will feel the need to re-assert the PA, and will use 2011 to do it. The PA has been too weak for too long. Baseball had just come off a strike, and the balance of power was far different.

I think the KHL is just drooling over this opportunity. A strike in 2011 will send the Euros home, and we’ll see the KHL reach skill parity with the NHL, or close enough.

Here’s hoping that cooler heads prevail, or we’ll be complaining about the mid-day broadcasts of the Avs Siberian road trip.

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by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just think that a strike is bad business for both players and owners, and both will want to avoid it at all costs. I mean you just likened it to Armageddon, and for the NHL that’s not too far off.

That and Fehr can flex the PAs muscles a little, and the owners are going to have to take it. I mean the owners got everything they wanted last time, what are they going to be able to ask for? And when they ask , what’s their argument going to be… we need more cost certainty.

I think you can see it now, the owner’s are trying to pick up any bargaining chips they can get. Players in the Olympics… challenging ludicrous contracts… I think most every move the NHL makes in the next 2 years will be about getting leverage, because they have none.

That said, I don’t think the NHLPA is going to fight the salary cap. It’s already established, it’s never being replaced. What players are going to fight is: escrow payments, and getting a bit fairer processes in place for stuff like contract appeals, suspension appeals, etc.

But none of that stuff are season killers, IMO.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 26, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

After the 94 strike, Fehr presided over the last 16 years worth of labor negotiations (the current MLB CBA was negotiated by him) without any work stoppages.

And before 94-95 baseball owners were pretty corrupt in their dealings with players. I mean they got busted t3 times for collusion in the late 80’s and 1990. And the ’94 strike was partially due to the owners trying to break the players union (which had successfully sued them for collusion three times)

I just think there was a lot more acrimony and corruption leading up to the baseball ‘94-95 than there is in hockey right now. I think we’ll see a deal get done.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 26, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting post.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s probably way too simple but it seems like each side has something to give. Give up escrow $$ payments in return for a hard defination of what contracts can contain (anti-kovie legislation). No movement/trades return for not burying players in the minors because of cap (mis)management and so on. Its so easy that they probably will strike.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 26, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

You’ve started a laundry list of issues that the players will bring to the table, and I’m sure Fehr has a list as long as his arm. No one item will be the killer, not like “Cost Certainty” last time, but the cumulative effect will be a great deal of separation between the two sides. From the owners perspective, the salary cap didn’t do what they’d hoped. I’m sure they’d like to see the annual escalation curbed. The players see the escrow as a major thorn in their side.

In the end, the balance of power is way on the side of ownership right now, and Fehr has been hired by the players to correct that. I don’t see that changing without a fight..

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by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Roster turnover is almost higher than college football. It makes team loyalty less fun.

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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Aug 26, 2010 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I feel this is the players attempting to posture with the league that has all the cards right now. To me, this is them saying they’re ready for another work stoppage. Cuz Fehr knows all about work stoppages.

by Kevin G on Aug 26, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Plus, Fehr wasn’t around nor did he care about the 2004 work stoppage. As far as he’s concerned, this is just business. I don’t think he realizes just how fragile fans’ loyalties are right now and that most of us will bail for good if they have a work stoppage so soon after the last one.

Players’ quoted comments the last couple days have me worried.

“Don Fehr at our helm … he is probably the last guy [Bettman] wants in that position.”

It’s like they don’t get it. By even mentioning strengthening the union and hiring Fehr, it already appears the players are digging in their heals and preparing for the worst. Granted, I know they want to protect themselves, but there’s hardly enough wrong with the league right now to justify a lot of grandstanding. The fact that we’re even talking about the idea of a work stoppage will kill any and all momentum the league has to gain by labor strife in both the NBA and NFL.

If I were Donald Fehr, I’d instruct all the players to shut the hell up about labor strife. Same goes for Bettman and the owners. We fans don’t want to here it, and it’s bad PR for everyone involved when the subject even comes up. I know it doesn’t put me in the mood to buy tickets. The NHL and NHLPA need to at least agree on a solid line for the media to say how well things are going (even if they’re not) because anything else will simply reinforce the idea that the NHL is in trouble and not worth our attention. The last thing the NHL needs is casual fans thinking …

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by Dixomatic on Aug 26, 2010 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

interesting

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 25, 2010 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m kinda ok with not signing Mitchell. Do we need ANOTHER player with concussion issues (I mean, Blake’s retired now so everything is going to be ok, right?)? I am also not hating life because we didn’t go after Sutton, but I did die a little inside when we passed on A-Train. I think I’ve talked myself into Gaunce being the physical dman I want. If we could trade Roadrunner or Liles (Roadrunner has the better value) and bring up Gaunce (or maybe Holo’s) I’d be completely ok with us passing on Mitchell (plus, he probably smells like Canuck).

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by i2strange97 on Aug 25, 2010 6:18 PM MDT reply actions  

sutton would have been the 5th or 6th defenseman, I would hope they sign someone to take the pressure off of the younger defensemen, since they tend to take a year or three longer to devlop. As for forwards a depth forward wouldn’t hurt, but if they go into the season without signing anyone of note I’m not too unhappy.

I’m willing to buy into the rebuild they have going, I do have issues about getting invested emotionally with the younger players and have the avs not sign them or trade them away in a perpetual rebuild (ie keepin it cheap). I need a sign that the team is committed to it’s players. It would help if Stewart in particular was signed to a contract longer than two years.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 25, 2010 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Has an avalanche player changed his # and had a better season after the change? I seem to think that tanguay and drury dipped and martin skoula went from prospect on the rise to has been when he gave up #41, which is my fav. number (but not favorite player).

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 25, 2010 6:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Stewart and Cumiskey changed theirs last year, right?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 25, 2010 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am such an old man I can’t remember what happened last year but was focused on the 90’s. ugh.

Son, when you participate in sporting events - it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 25, 2010 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

STASTNY!!
We went from 62 to 26 and then set an NHL record:

“he had a 20-game scoring streak, breaking not only his father’s franchise rookie record of 16 games, but also the NHL rookie record of 17 games that belonged to Teemu Selänne.”

by Brett Shumway on Aug 25, 2010 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did Skoula give up 41?

I thought he went from 55 to 41, but I could be mis-remembering.

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Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.

by wtnelson on Aug 25, 2010 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought he went to a single digit before he left. He was 41 the year they won the cup.

Son, when you participate in sporting events - it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 25, 2010 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hockey Reference has 55 and 41 with the Avs, 14 with the Ducks, 41 with the Stars, Wild, and Pens, and 28 with the Devils. Hard to believe he’s played 10 years and 776 games in the NHL. He seems to stick around despite my opinion that he was marginal on his best nights. Still, he would have been an upgrade to Brisebois a few years back.

As an aside, one thing I did like about Darcy Tucker was that he beat the shit out Brisebois in that black and white game against the Habs a couple seasons ago.

There's a place out west where the Powder River rolls off the Bighorn Mountains. It's a land of red walls, blue sky, and clean air, where the eagle glides high above the canyons and makes its nest in the rocks that overlook the valleys where the sagebrush and cottonwoods grow. This is ranch country - has been for more than a hundred years.

Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.

by wtnelson on Aug 25, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Muhahahaha!!!

You think Skoula’s play “dipped” because he changed his number??? Quad ROFLMAO!

by LTC Pain on Aug 26, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

it could have been witchcraft. Has anyone weighed him lately?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 26, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

it could have been witchcraft. Has anyone weighed him lately?

Son, when you participate in sporting events - it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 26, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Does he float?

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by Americanario on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a duck handy to weigh him with.

Son, when you participate in sporting events - it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Aug 26, 2010 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I plan on being in Syracuse to watch the Monsters the second game of the season. Only an hour and fifteen minute drive!

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by MVerminski on Aug 25, 2010 8:03 PM MDT reply actions  

yeah, I think Syracuse is the closest LEM road game to me…and that’s 5 hours away. thought about it, but nah

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 25, 2010 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, not all Rams fans are pleased... some think Kroenke's moving them to LA.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 25, 2010 9:46 PM MDT reply actions  

I saw that lunacy. In fairness, there were a few lunatics around here claiming the Avs were headed back to Quebec since Kroenke had to sell.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 25, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's interesting how many teams are supposedly moving to LA.

From the blogs I’ve checked, I count St. Louis, San Diego, Minnesota, and Jacksonville.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

>"There’s a flurry of avalanche news today"
>Spend the entire post bitching about how the Avs management is handling the team instead of revealing any actual news

Gee I’ve never seen this before.

Also, Raffi Torres suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

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by UZ on Aug 25, 2010 10:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Mostly, it’s because we all hate the Avs and want them to lose.

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 26, 2010 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I figured just posting "Raffi Torres sucks" wasn't enough negativity for angry post ninjaing

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by UZ on Aug 26, 2010 12:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am 100% anti-Avalanche

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 26, 2010 5:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

So while St Louis enters into sunshine and horses pissing rainbows territory,

Fixed.

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by Mike @ MHH on Aug 26, 2010 7:35 AM MDT reply actions  

Is that what they call LA now?

Is it hockey season yet?
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by UZ on Aug 26, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe LA needs a third hockey team. Actually, that blows me away. LA has 2 teams and Toronto has only 1. That’s nuts.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Toronto has a better teachers union.

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Hockeytown was a marketing invention to draw fans to a team that had less gate than the atlanta thrashers.

by TheRed on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Careful, folks from OC don’t like to be considered Angelinos and vice versa. The Ducks are in Anaheim, the middle of Orange County, not in Los Angeles. =)

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 26, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah but it’s still a greater metropolitan area, just like toronto. The pension fund and Buttman just do a better job at keeping competitors away.

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Hockeytown was a marketing invention to draw fans to a team that had less gate than the atlanta thrashers.

by TheRed on Aug 26, 2010 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

They can keep telling themselves that. Quebecois can keep telling people they are separate from Canada too…

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 26, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

There was an article on TSN’s website that Gilles Duceppe (leader of the Bloc Quebecois party in Canada) is apparently asking for federal funding to build a new arena in Quebec City for a possible NHL team in the future, and to help for a 2022 Olympic bid. A lot of Canadians (myself included) were not too happy about it, with the whole Quebec trying to seperate thing and all.

by cbernardin on Aug 26, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hi beachie. Totally OT, but what is the outlook on the job situation? The Avs desperately need a jolt of enthusiasm in their marketing/PR departments.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 26, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

They’re not hiring anywhere in the hockey operations side, so no jobs available in marketing or PR. I had an interview today for a Ski Patrol position tho! =) I should hear by tomorrow if I’ll get to t-shirt cannon shit at ya’ll during games this season. lol.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 26, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

They’re not hiring anywhere in the hockey operations side, so no jobs available in marketing or PR at 1st RW or 2nd LW.

Now we know.

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 26, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry, folks, no t-shirts comin ur way. Didn’t get this one…the next one’s mine for sure tho! Of course that may be in 2020…

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 26, 2010 6:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chin up, you’ll get ’em babe!

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Aug 26, 2010 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

They’re not hiring anywhere in the hockey operations side

This is not surprising in the least…

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by Drakenlot on Aug 27, 2010 12:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

So I’m sure the baseball fan base has abandoned the “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim,” right? Right?

Going purely by population, it works out almost perfectly (1 team per 6M people), but given that 95% of the LA Metro population can’t spell “h-o-c-k-e-y”, it’s ridiculous that Southern California/LA Metro has 2 teams and the Toronto metro has only 1.

New rumor – Ducks are flying North to Hamilton!

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Never said it wasn’t ridiculous, just stating facts. ;-)

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 26, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

The baseball fan base never started using the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, btw. It’s still Anaheim Stadium, California Angels if you ask anyone in So Cal. It’s either a joke or a point of anger, depending on how big of a fan the person is.

And if the So Cal market can support two teams, why not? Neither team is seriously hurting, so as long as they’re viable, more power to them, I say.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 26, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m really not into taking teams away from active and strong fan bases. If my name was Gary Bettman, I’d push to get one of the fan-abandoned teams out of the SE into the Toronto suburbs. As the Leafs are well aware, there’s money to be made.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

but wouldn’t that be the leafs’ money in their minds? I don’t see them being overly happy with that, but i wouldn’t think they’d have much of a say

maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
mwuahaha

by Uziel on Aug 26, 2010 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Leafs were largely the reason that Balsillie didn’t get the Coyotes to Hamilton last year. Too close to the sacred ground.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Aug 26, 2010 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I assume you mean the Thrashers, since every other SE team drew more than the Avs last season.

"Half the game is mental; the other half is being mental." -- Jim McKenny

by Dixomatic on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe by the time I’m home from vacation (to nowhere in particular) something will have happened. I somehow doubt it though

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by chiavsfan on Aug 26, 2010 4:45 PM MDT reply actions  

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