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Colorado Avalanche Greatest Hits! Volume 09-10.

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I've always been a fan of the physicality of the game of hockey. A good check can shift the momentum and be a true game changer. Hits make the game more entertaining, and help to draw crowds. Ever since Lappy left, not only has the Colorado box office suffered, but I've been a bit worried about the Avalanche in the "tough" department. And now, with the departures of Hendricks, Tucker, Durno, Clark, Wolski, Svatos, Salei, and Yelle, the Avs have lost a combined 379 hits from last season - or 25% of their hitting. Hendricks ranked 3rd overall on the team in hits per game, behind only McLeod and Foote (Mercier only played 15 games so I left him out of the equation). So on a team that was already deficient with hits, who is going to pick up all that slack?

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Stats are inherently troubled, and a game isn't won or lost by hits alone, but typically teams who HIT have a better shot at winning, especially over a long, strenuous 7 game series. Now, some teams have great success without throwing a lot of checks. For example, the cup winning Blackhawks ranked 25th overall in that department during the regular season. This next point can be argued, but generally the Avs played a not too dissimilar game from Chicago last season, and the Avs finished 23rd overall in hits. But not every team can get away with utilizing their speed and skill over physicality. It has been mentioned by many on this site that the Avs have lost key players in recent years to injury, and part of the blame for those injuries has been assigned to the lack of (individual) physical presence on the team.

I agree with that sentiment, and I would love to see the roster bolstered by some increased size & strength. More CGDS and less Svats. It's not simply a hitting deficiency, it's overall team physicality. You gotta have some guys that can throw their bodies around effectively (see Darcy Tucker for the antithesis) to keep other teams honest -  especially if you're going to have a small, fast, skilled roster. If they can't protect themselves, somebody has to. But it'd be nice if they could handle themselves, because I hate "relying" on Koci. Never a good game plan.

Daniel Winnik was a good pick up by the Avs hit-wise, as he threw down 104 hits in 74 games last season for Phoenix, good for 1.4 teeth rattles per game. That's nice, but that doesn't even cover what Hendricks was doing by himself. Here's a simple breakdown of last regular season's roster and hitting (in)ability. All numbers based off games played in an Avalanche uni.

PLAYER

HITS

HITS PER GAME

McLeod

197 (20th overall)

2.7

Quincey

115 (133rd overall)

1.5

Foote

111 (147th overall)

1.7

Stewart

100 (108th among forwards)

1.3

Hendricks

92

1.6

Galiardi

87

1.2

Tucker

87

1.2

Wilson

86

1.4

Hannan

67

0.8

Durno

56

1.4

Clark

55

0.8

Duchene

51

0.6

Cumiskey

47

0.8

Yip

43

1.3

Stastny

42

0.5

Liles

40

0.7

O'Reilly

37

0.5

Koci

33

0.8

Hejduk

30

0.5

Wolski

30

0.5

Jones

29

1.3

Svatos

22

0.4

Salei

21

1.5

Yelle

15

1.6

Mercier

15

1.7

Mueller

15

1

Stoa

13

1.1

Porter

12

0.8

Dupuis

4

1

Preissing

3

0.8

What I drew from this chart:

  • I've called out McLeod for seeming to disappear at times last season, but his 2.7 hits per game seem to suggest his presence was literally felt more than I perhaps thought. Sorry Highlander. You rule, just, score more or something....
  • If Stoa sees more NHL time, he could account for some of those missing hits. Everyone on the 3rd and 4th lines should be throwing checks at least once a game (O'Reilly gets a pass). To that extent, Mueller surprised me with his hit pace. When he came over in the Wolski trade, he was presented as a player who shied away from the physical stuff and was tentative because of his previous concussion, but he doubled up the Baron in terms of hits per game. Hopefully he can bounce back, and stay away from more concussions. How do you balance physicality with injury avoidance? Can you? Is it simply bad luck? It's a dichotomy.
  • The tawdry defense: As bad as Salei played, his hits will be missed. Our blue line isn't exactly chalk full of physical guys, and the pipeline is filled with smallish puck moving defenseman. Quincey and Foote held their own, but Footer isn't getting any younger. The biggest disappointment to me is Hannan. Some readers say I'm too harsh on the Hobbit, and they're right. I expect more of him, so I often make him my whipping boy. He's the highest paid defenseman, second highest paid player, our top defender, and he is sliding by at under a hit per game. He paced both Road Runner and Clark, with Liles just a step behind. I know Hannan plays a more positional style, but seriously, a game should never go by where Hannan doesn't hit somebody, anybody. Right?
  • Wilson's physical game is a beautiful bright spot for the defense as we all know. Had he not been derailed by a concussion, he no doubt would had left more of an impact (pun intended). He didn't seem to have the same spark and huge hits post-concussion though, which would have been a big boon in the playoffs against the bigger, stronger Sharks.
  • More Betterness: Yip, Galiardi, and Jones were all on pace with Chris Stewart's numbers, they just played fewer games. The Avalanche really need those 4 healthy. A healthy Yip and Jones go a long way to help fill out those forward lines. Galiardi is a warrior and his playoff physicality suggests he'll be more of a pest this upcoming season. With those 4 on the top 3 lines, you've got a more well rounded attack to go along with the smaller more skilled play of Duchene, Hejduk, SoS, Radar and Mueller. Without them, the Avs are so much more fragile.

Now, here's the same chart, but I've added in everybody's playoff totals (please forgive/correct any math errors):

 

PLAYER

REGULAR SEASON HITS

REGULAR SEASON HITS PER GAME

PLAYOFF HITS

(in 6 games unless noted)

PLAYOFF HITS PER GAME

PLAYOFF VS REGULAR SEASON DIFF

McLeod

197

2.7

25

4.2

+1.5

Quincey

115

1.5

9

1.5

even

Foote

111

1.7

12

2

+0.3

Stewart

100

1.3

9

1.5

+0.2

Hendricks

92

1.6

22

3.7

+2.1

Galiardi

87

1.2

10

1.7

+0.5

Tucker

87

1.2

11

1.8

+0.6

Wilson

86

1.4

5 (4 games)

1.25

-0.15

Hannan

67

0.8

5

0.8

even

Durno

56

1.4

0 (1 game)

0

-1.4

Clark

55

0.8

2 (1 game)

2

+1.2

Duchene

51

0.6

13

2.2

+1.6

Cumiskey

47

0.8

4

0.7

-0.1

Yip

43

1.3

9

1.5

+0.2

Stastny

42

0.5

6

1

+0.5

Liles

40

0.7

6

1

+0.3

O'Reilly

37

0.5

3

.5

even

Koci

33

0.8

-

-

-

Hejduk

30

0.5

3 (3 games)

1

+0.5

Wolski

30

0.5

-

-

-

Jones

29

1.3

-

-

-

Svatos

22

0.4

7 (3 games)

2.3

+1.9

Salei

21

1.5

2 (1 game)

2

+0.5

Yelle

15

1.6

13

2.2

+0.6

Mercier

15

1.7

-

-

-

Mueller

15

1

-

-

-

Stoa

13

1.1

1 ( 1 game)

1

-0.1

Porter

12

0.8

11 (4 gms)

2.75

+1.95

Dupuis

4

1

-

-

-

Preissing

3

0.8

-

-

-

Damn Svatos! Where'd that come from?!?!  Several other players really pushed their physical game to the next level in the post season too, notably:  McLeod, Hendricks, Porter, and Matt Duchene. That kid just gets more likable by the freakin' minute. Last week Dustin posted a, well, a post, about the Avalanche leadership of the future. Duchene gets my vote. The only bummers for me on this list were Quincey and Hannan who just barely made par. It's the playoffs. Step it up fellas!

Looking ahead: So, while at first glance it may look like the Avalanche will be hit deficient next season, I don't buy into it. If people stay healthy, I truly believe the Avs have a well balanced roster, particularly up front (minus Bob's Russian). On D, it looks like the top six are set and if that's the case Hannan HAS to step up and boast more of a physical presence. The other 5 seem to have clear roles, but Hannan I think needs to be more assertive on the ice and make certain other teams are aware of him. Wilson, I'll light a candle for your health. The likely candidates for call ups or possibly stealing spots out of camp would be: Gaunce, Shattenkirk and Holos. Gaunce and Holos both are physical, especially Gaunce. Shattenkirk is more of a hybrid. So I wouldn't be surprised if they all get serious long looks at camp to help beef up the questionably "tough" defense corps.

Conclusions: it's all about balance. I said in the open that Cup champ Blackhawks slummed it near the bottom of the pack during the regular season in hits, however by the time Toews lifted Lord Stanley's grail, Seabrook and Byfuglien led all players in hits by a combined margin of +40 hits. Physicality matters. Not every player needs to be Dylan MacIlrath, and hits don't ensure wins, but being able to take a hit, while also checking some fools sure as hell doesn''t lose you games.

The Avalanche front office has built a solid, complimentary line up, that when healthy & strong is balanced, despite youth and inexperience. I don't buy into the whispered pessimism about 2010-2011. I don't expect too much of a slide or let down from last season. I'm not one to say this past season of awesome was simply an aberration. The foundation is there, and the kids will be alright. They may not grow by leaps and bounds, but they won't drive off the cliff either. But what happens when someone inevitably gets hurt, you ask? One word: Steroids! 

 

did anyone read this whole thing?

It got a bit rambly at the end there. Apologies. I was too busy thinking Abry's.

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Again Paul's Espresso

Fantastic post.

My big question is how large the difference is for Wilson between pre-concussion and post-concussion.

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by c6hor8 on Aug 3, 2010 9:00 AM MDT reply actions  

If memory serves me correctly, he had 2 concussions last season (January and March). So he only played about 25 games after his first concussion in mid January, so it’s safe to say most of his hits came in his first 36 games, pre-concussion, but I can’t find the exact #s. I wish I could because that would be telling.

by Brett Shumway on Aug 3, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

But what happens when someone inevitably gets hurt, you ask?

That sir is the correct question.
That in my opinion is the fulcrum for this team, stay healthy and they’ll be just fine; but lose a large number of man-games and they don’t seem to have the forward depth to make it through the season.

It will really be interesting to see who the 7th D-man is this season.

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by Americanario on Aug 3, 2010 9:08 AM MDT reply actions  

Finally a stat for Wolski that matches reality.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 3, 2010 9:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Oh, and good thing they didn’t re-sign that Hendricks character. Roy knows the team doesn’t need more physicality.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 3, 2010 9:28 AM MDT reply actions  

yeah

and for a franchise struggling to get ticket sales up, Roy knows they didn’t want to keep a fan favorite around.

I have been in and out of this site this summer, so I don’t know if the reason for not resigning Hendricks was because he was asking for a stupid amount of money.

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by hockeymom on Aug 3, 2010 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

re-signing

2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: Now with Playoff Goodness!

by hockeymom on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

considering the fact that he has not been signed by any team yet makes me wonder…..

Brannigan's Law is like Brannigan's love, hard and fast.

by InYoFace on Aug 3, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don’t know for sure, but the subtext that I’m reading into the reports I’ve seen is that he was maybe looking for a one-way multi-year deal (with a raise). Doesn’t look like anybody was biting.

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 3, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right to me. I doubt it was money. One-way and the number of years seemed to be the issue. Uh, like you said.

Brannigan's Law is like Brannigan's love, hard and fast.

by InYoFace on Aug 3, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Money, sold. One way, sold. Years, sold.

Me no like da Wings.

by i2strange97 on Aug 3, 2010 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

/sigh

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 4, 2010 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

So on a team that was already deficient with hits, who is going to pick up all that slack?

My bet: Andy.

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by hockeymom on Aug 3, 2010 9:31 AM MDT reply actions  

no doubt

He’s going to have to channel Billy Smith and start hatcheting guys if his D doesn’t toughen up this season.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 3, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something tells me that won’t be too difficult for him.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 3, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m feeling better and better about the upcoming year. Really.

If injuries truly are a matter of luck or (what I believe) are statistically spread out evenly among all teams in a long enough timeframe then we are due a few reasonably healthy years. In a reasonably healthy year I believe we are a top six team with this roster and are in such an incredibly enviable financial position should we like to upgrade as the season moves along.

I now have gone from incredulous that we made no moves, to hopeful that we will make some moves, to happy that we have made no moves (signing Mueller and CGDS not withstanding), is that growth or denial?

by booclatos on Aug 3, 2010 9:37 AM MDT reply actions  

If injuries truly are a matter of luck or (what I believe) are statistically spread out evenly among all teams in a long enough timeframe then we are due a few reasonably healthy years.

That’s not an either/or kind of thing. In fact those two go together hand-in-hand.

/statistics semantics.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 3, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am not embarassed to say that I have no idea what you just said.

Please to explain?

by booclatos on Aug 3, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Our experience with injuries this year is not statistically dependent on injuries in prior years. Read: we are not “due” anything and can still very easily have a shitty, shitty year of injuries.

by MalachiConstant on Aug 3, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see.....

and I am certainly not armed for a battle over statistics, I guess I was hoping that the “long enough timeframe” would start to kick in.

Although I would have to say that unfortunately (and counter to my post above) I bet the numbers bear out that our experience with individual injuries this year could quite easily be dependant on prior years injuries due to several factors. Two of which would be injury prone players and players trying to recover too fast. I so shouldn’t have just typed that….

by booclatos on Aug 3, 2010 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Heh, sadly you are right. Concussions are an easy example. But, as you allude to, dwelling on this chain of logic is bleeding depressing. So.. done.

by MalachiConstant on Aug 3, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Injuries are luck, and therefore will be spread out evenly among teams over the long term. You used the wrong conjunction. It’s not luck or statistical spread, it’s luck and .

But MalachiConstant is right (below). One year has very little to do with the next season. We aren’t due anything. It’s likely that at some point we will have a fairly healthy season, but that’s not some sort of balancing out, it’s just as likely that we’ll have another injury riddled filled season.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 3, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm

A better way to think of it is with dice. If I roll 3 3’s in a row the chances that my next roll is a 3 are the same as any other number, but if I roll the dice enough times it’s likely that I’ll get an equal number of 3’s, 2,s 1’s 4’s etc. But just because I’ve rolled 3, 6, or even 9 straight 3’s doesn’t mean the next one will balance it out.

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 3, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Conjunction Junction, what’s your function?
Hooking up phrases and clauses that balance, like:
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
He cut loose the sandbags,
But the balloon wouldn’t go any higher.
Let’s go up to the mountains,
Or down to the seas.
You should always say “thank you”,
Or at least say “please”.

Fushigi - It floats, it levitates, it will confuse the senses with it's mind-blowing movements.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Aug 3, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Damnit.. I was too excitedand forgot to post the video.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNo

Fushigi - It floats, it levitates, it will confuse the senses with it's mind-blowing movements.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Aug 3, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

That was always my favorite one. I actually own the vid and used it in my classroom!

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 3, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Angeliques’ (not sure how to type the accent) position. One year of no moves at this time in the teams development is nothing to worry about. Risky? Yes, but we will learn who is for real and who is not among the young guns.

Brannigan's Law is like Brannigan's love, hard and fast.

by InYoFace on Aug 3, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

nice aticle. and another reason i’d like to see raffi torres brought in next season, that’d bring back some of those hits for sure

by Cole D Hamilton on Aug 3, 2010 9:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Mike's suggestion

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Hockeytown was a marketing invention to draw fans to a team that had less gate than the atlanta thrashers. Really Detroit, the only thing I'm jealous about is your marketing dept. When do they go UFA?

by TheRed on Aug 3, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Disc 1, Song number 4

Would be funnier if they would add “listen to Rainbow” at the end of the title.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 3, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

If only the Avs would do more of Disc 2 Song 16.

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by Americanario on Aug 3, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stone Cold! (Ice cold)

I thought I knew you so well.
(You put me in a deep freeze!)

You'll see all your favorite soccer stars. Like Adiaga! Adiaga two! Badiaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!

by Dan Winkler on Aug 3, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not every player needs to be Dylan MacIlrath

I was only asking for one of them to be!

/sob

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by Hopfenkopf on Aug 3, 2010 9:58 AM MDT reply actions  

(Hannan) paced both Road Runner and Clark, with Liles just a step behind

Not only is this a statement on Hannan, but Clark as well. If Cumiskey and Liles are hitting as much as you are and you’re supposed to be this big, tough, shot-blocking in-your-face beast, something is seriously wrong.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 3, 2010 10:58 AM MDT reply actions  

hey, nice pic. Did you have that before this article?

by Brett Shumway on Aug 3, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sho did! I’ve had it up since the beginning of the off-season.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 3, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, great minds…..

by Brett Shumway on Aug 3, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I love Wilson. Sometimes I’ll load up the Renegades video and fast forward to his hits and watch thru it a couple of times just to remind me of his Mack Truck goodness.

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 3, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

dont sleep on winnik, he playd a very defensive role for PHX but watch some of his highlights he can move and shoot as well and bang…if hes allowed to play his game he could be a good contributor…..

by fratboy6 on Aug 3, 2010 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks alot

This rekindles my Hannan hatred (and renews my admiration for his agent) and convinces me his next contract will be closer to $2.5 million/year than $4 million/year (and that’s if he’s lucky and his agent is negotiating his ass off that day).

The only thing he does is chew ice time. That’s it. And doesn’t get hurt enough to miss games. So he absorbs punishment and has a high pain threshold. Super – here’s $4.5 million per year for 4 years! YAY!

I’m sure we coulda had Karlis Skrastins for a whole lot less.

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by Dan Winkler on Aug 3, 2010 2:26 PM MDT reply actions  

$3.5M. Book it Danno

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by Jibblescribbits on Aug 3, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

What is on the line?

Dan will wager his entire Night Ranger collection.

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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 3, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Quiet, Bob

Or I’ll reveal to the world that when you say you’re 5’11", you’re actually measuring yourself in Hannan Inches, which means you’re about 2 to 2-and-a-half inches shorter than you claim (and, strangely enough, much, much less physical).

You'll see all your favorite soccer stars. Like Adiaga! Adiaga two! Badiaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!

by Dan Winkler on Aug 3, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is that 5’ 11" with or without skates?

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by Americanario on Aug 3, 2010 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorta OT...

and not like my avatar would give this away or anything, but… I absolutely love this picture. The captions we could come up with for it…

I just like the fights.

by Cheryl Bradley on Aug 5, 2010 9:00 AM MDT reply actions  

Wait, you like that picture? I thought you despised it. ;)

Sandie

"We called him Clark Kent because away from the rink, he was just a nerd. Then he'd go into the Colorado dressing room and put on his Avs jersey, and all of a sudden he was Super Joe"- Theo Fleury

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