GroupThink: Which Defenseman Do We Protect in the SBN Mock Expansion Draft?
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Aug 31, 2010 5:17 PM MDT
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PrintFor those who missed last week's episode, SBN is running a Mock Expansion Draft because...well, just because. In a landslide, Mile High readers voted overwhelmingly to go with the 1 goalie, 5 defenseman and 9 forwards option. (Which, we realized too late, was the only option we were allowed to use anyway). Now for the fun part: picking our protected list.
I'm not even going to bother polling about the goalie. We are protecting Craig Anderson. End of story. In this thread, we'll pick the 5 defensemen to protect. Actually, in the poll below we're going to select the defenseman we want to expose.
- Hannan
- Liles
- Cumiskey
- Wilson
- Foote
- Quincey
One of those names needs to be left unprotected. And based on the look of some of the protected lists coming in, chances are pretty strong that the player we expose will be taken so keep that in mind when making your choice. The player with the most votes by, say, 6pm eastern on Wednesday will be the one we don't protect. Choose wisely.
(Forward list will be done separately)
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Foote, easily
It’s kind of mean to the expansion teams, but its the best choice for the Avs. Nobody in their right mind will take him, and even if they do, he can just retire.
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I voted for Foote on the condition that we have an informal agreement with him that he retires if he gets selected. He’s very likely going to retire over the summer anyway, it would just mean delaying his announcement.
It would be for the good of the team and I doubt he’d take offense so long as we talked to him about before hand. Besides that, Liles only has this year and next left on his contract. We should be well below the cap over the next two years. His cap number should not be an issue, only his potential market value later and his value to the team.
by MalachiConstant on Sep 1, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Stay Footer
Show some love for the old guy! He is our captain. Don’t you care for anything about tradition and loyalty. Footer is one of us, we keep him.
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by Light the Lamp on Aug 31, 2010 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
It’s a slap in the face, plus you are gambling that the Nord’s new GM is
a) not at all sentimental and interested in getting an old school Nordique
b) not at all interested in getting a year of veteran leadership in a new team that will need exactly that
Protect Foote!
by AvInVancouver on Sep 1, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think Foote is a bad option for an expansion team, provided he didn’t retire, which I assume he would. I wonder who would be captain if he left- I’m not sure anyone is ready to take over, although throwing them in the fire might reveal exceptional qualities.
That said, I’m torn between Liles and Foote. It comes at a bad time, as if I knew how reliably Quincey and Wilson would play in the future I would seriously consider Hannan to go. As is we have plenty of offensive d-men coming along so I guess Liles will get my vote.
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Foote?
Going for realism, I don’t see how the Avs could possibly leave Footer unprotected, it would be a slap in the face to him!!!
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well, in a real-world scenario the Avs would probably have aquired someone so that they wouldn’t have to expose him. one of the issues with the way we’re doing this
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 1, 2010 6:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Avs would leave Foote unprotected for that reason.
by Inebriated Simian Miscreants on Sep 1, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
i pick liles
i want foote to captain this team for another year — i don’t think anyone is really ready to take over for another year — and losing Liles’ contract would actually be a good thing. the cap floor would be an issue though.
i’d miss Liles on the PP though i would not miss him at even strength.
I was presuming the draft wouldn’t take place until next summer when Foote would retire anyway. It is entirely possible I am making this more complicated than need be.
by MalachiConstant on Sep 1, 2010 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Hannan
while Foote is just as useless, letting your Capitano go isn’t a good move
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Wilson
Even though he’s one of the very few Avs defensemen who can hit, his concussion issues really worries me. The Avs wouldn’t expose Foote, he’s the captain. The other four defensemen are better than Wilson overall, play more minutes, and have more value in trade. Also, we need Liles and Hannan to get to the cap floor.
by Inebriated Simian Miscreants on Sep 1, 2010 9:33 AM MDT reply actions
$4M in the press box, or $4M somewhere else? Liles.
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Plus, We have a crop of JML type players (but potentially tougher/better) in the system that Foote can and will be a mentor too. Nobody else brings what Foote does (no, I’m not talking about lack of speed), but there could be 5 or 6 guys that bring what JML does, and then some. I’m not so much saying Liles is the best choice to hang out to dry as I am using it to argue Foote should stay.
by Brett Shumway on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed on all counts
Really, I think that the Avs could lose any of the current defensemen (with the possible exception of Quincey) and not really miss much on the ice, but Foote absolutely would have to stay. Not protecting the captain, and the closest thing there currently is to a franchise icon, would send a terrible message to the entire organization, in my opinion.
Given Liles’ situation last season, he makes the most sense to me. There’s no way I’d leave Foote unprotected, and there’s no way I’d leave Quincey unprotected.
There's a place out west where the Powder River rolls off the Bighorn Mountains. It's a land of red walls, blue sky, and clean air, where the eagle glides high above the canyons and makes its nest in the rocks that overlook the valleys where the sagebrush and cottonwoods grow. This is ranch country - has been for more than a hundred years.
Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.
Not protect out captain????
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In comparison to the rest of the choices, and valuing their accomplishments and achievements, the obvious and weakest link is Cumisky.
If this were to actually happen, does anyone know how a no-movement clause would affect one’s protection status?
There's a place out west where the Powder River rolls off the Bighorn Mountains. It's a land of red walls, blue sky, and clean air, where the eagle glides high above the canyons and makes its nest in the rocks that overlook the valleys where the sagebrush and cottonwoods grow. This is ranch country - has been for more than a hundred years.
Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.
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