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Preseason Game 2 Recap: Kings 4 Avalanche 2

DENVER - SEPTEMBER 22:  Goalie John Grahame #47 of the Colorado Avalanche pauses after giving up a goal against the Los Angeles Kings during preseason NHL action at the Pepsi Center on September 22 2010 in Denver Colorado. The Kings defeated the Avalanche 4-2.  (Photo by Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)


The Los Angeles Kings knocked off the Avalanche last night, dropping the Avs to 1-1 in games that don't matter. As with all Avalanche preseason games, this one was heavily marketed by not showing it on TV which makes these recaps a little difficult. From the box score and event summary it appears to have been a chippy affair, with two fights (David Koci vs Kevin Westgarth and Cameron Gaunce vs Jordan Nolan) and Adam Foote tangled with John Zeiler (the guy who gave him a concussion last year), getting a elbowing and roughing penalty in the skirmish. In all, the Avs had 14 penalties and gave the Kings 7 powerplay opportunities.

For the Avalanche Philippe Dupuis and Kyle Quincey were the goal scorers (Quincey also had an assist), while Michael Handzus, Jason Williams, Zeiler and former Avalanche Brad Richardson scored for the Kings. Richardson's was the game winner. Craig Anderson allowed 1 goal on 18 shots and John Grahame allowed 3 on 24.

This is the 2nd straight game that the Avs were at a severe shot disadvantage. These games don't count...but being outshot by a 76-41 margin in the first two games is not exactly comforting.

The Avalanche are in action again on Friday when they visit the Dallas Stars.

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say Grahame won’t be getting the backup job this season.

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 6:13 AM MDT reply actions  

I saw him play for LE last year, he’s just sllllooooooooow

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 6:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, he is 100 years old.

Oh, he’s 35. Four years older than me. Sigh.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 6:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

But what is 35 in hockey years?

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 6:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

It varies widely. Ray Bourque was still just 25 in hockey years when he was 40 in real years.

Grahame, on the other hand, is 35 in real years but 100 in hockey years.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 6:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

In hockey years, 35 is almost old enough to play for the Red Wings.

2010 Opening Night minus 46

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by JackAvsFan on Sep 23, 2010 6:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Eligible for rookie status as a Red WIng.

Now we have nothing to bitch about!

Besides marketing, ticket prices, depth at LW, ice girls…~ Mfured20

by Randy Time on Sep 23, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

AHH someone beat me to it. This is what I get for going to sleep instead of paying attention to MHH.

Now we have nothing to bitch about!

Besides marketing, ticket prices, depth at LW, ice girls…~ Mfured20

by Randy Time on Sep 23, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

And I’m going to go out on a ledge here and say the shot totals were a bit skewed due to the fact that the Avs were in the box over half the game.

But DDC’s point remains from the first game. I don’t want to see this pattern again

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 6:21 AM MDT reply actions  

Game thread only got to 964. So close….

2010 Opening Night minus 46

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by JackAvsFan on Sep 23, 2010 6:56 AM MDT reply actions  

Go add 36 comments!

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 7:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

pretty ridiculous number for a preseason game that wasn’t on TV. did the oldies radio feed work?

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I caught the 950 feed last night. After years of listening to the Avs radio on the computer from FL and IL, it felt so odd having it on an actual radio.

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty clean, crisp sound too.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

In bed

2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing

by zandar on Sep 23, 2010 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Damn it.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Everything sounds better

in bed

2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing

by zandar on Sep 23, 2010 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Having your fingers broken one by one and then having the finger nails removed slowly, in bed.

Nope doesn’t sound better….

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by Americanario on Sep 23, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well played, sir.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes it does

At least your not trapped in someone’s basement.

Positivity!

Dear Colorado Avalanche: Thank you for the excitement, see you in October.

by Drakenlot on Sep 23, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Plus, you could recline whilst writhing in pain.

Lots of upside!

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Another comment like that and you shall be stiffly penalized…..

by Dario on Sep 23, 2010 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Runs and hides…

2010-11 Colorado Avalanche: The Asskickers of the Amazing

by zandar on Sep 23, 2010 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

In bed?

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Sep 23, 2010 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sound quality was pretty good, but it also sounded like Moser was broadcasting from an empty grain silo.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Sep 23, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t he?

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Woody Paige nicknamed the Pepsi Center “The Can”. That’s about what it sounded like.

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by Busted Twigg on Sep 23, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was at the game last night (we scored some amazing free tickets!) and the husband and I had some observations:

Andy- Looked good. The guys definitely played a little better while he was out there, but Andy was definitely on top of his game. Still looks shaky outside the net- not sure that will ever change.

Grahame- I thought he looked terrible. The goals he let in weren’t the softest ones I’ve ever seen, but they weren’t great. I could tell that he was nervous the entire time he was on the ice.

Our first and second lines- Oh, they were out there last night? Didn’t even notice them. Especially Duchene- it was a little worrisome.

Dupuis- I was really impressed with this guy, he definitely wants to seal a spot on the team. I felt like every time I saw someone actually taking shots at the net it was #11.

Gaunce- Not the most talented guy, but boy was he working his butt off trying to be physical. He got some good hits in, and had a great fight against Nolan who shamefully wouldn’t take off his helmet/ visor.

Maudlin- Great hustle, I was really surprised to see that he only ended up with 2 SOG. He also looked like he was trying.

Elliott- Terrible. Time to cut this guy for sure.

Holos- He also looked pretty bad. I had high hopes for this guy and I don’t think he’s going to deliver. :/

Koci- LOL. He got rocked by that Westgarth SO BAD. If anyone other than Koci getting embarrassed that bad I’ve have been ashamed, but because it was Koci I was just amused.

Foote- Oh. my. god. Foote looked horrible. He was painfully slow, and constantly looked like he just wasn’t paying attention. I think he made 2 helpful plays throughout the entire game. I mean, yeah I enjoyed seeing him getting all chippy with that Zeiler tool (that guy was running his mouth all night)- especially after I learned what their history was- but the fights and the hits aside (and the hits weren’t too spectacular) I cringed every time he was out on the ice.

Pepsi Center mini doughnuts- Still delicious.

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 7:03 AM MDT reply actions  

what about McLeod – looks like he had a a few hits and a few shots.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah I forgot about Highlander! He was sort of in the middle- not invisible but not working as hard as some of the guys out there looking for secure spots on the team. He was playing pretty physical which I love, he looked like he was itching to just beat the hell out of someone. I wish he had taken Koci’s place because I know he’d have done a better job, haha.

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 7:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hard to get shots from your top guys when the PK is on the ice the whole game.

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 7:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bubs and I were at the game too (scored some cheap tickets) and though I agree with a lot of what bakes said, I had a different take on some of the guys…
Andy – agreed

Grahame – every goal was stoppable. The first one was within a minute or so of him getting in net and you could feel the deflation of energy of the guys. It’s like they gave up almost as soon as he was there. They have zero confidence in him. People thought that about Boods last year, that the team didn’t think they could trust Budaj to back them. No. Last night was what it feels like…crazy energy shift.

First and second lines – Although they weren’t clicking together the way I’d hope they would be, individuals were showing moments that made me giddy. Stewart is already looking like CGDS. Some Kings player (can’t remember who) pushed Stewie after the whistle was blown and he was PISSED. Turned around and just started wailing on the guy. The guy turtled, of course, and Stewart went down on him and threw an extra punch and some choice words I’m sure for good measure. He also showed his speed and his tricky wrist shot, which are still beautiful to behold. (We were sitting right above the goal in Avs attack twice zone, great angle). Duchene – he was having some trouble holding on to the puck doing his sleek moves, things he did without thinking last year. I would be willing to bet he’s using new sticks. Watching him, his problems with the puck all seem to be related to that – adjusting to a new stick. Having been there, I know how frustrating that can be. Anyone know how to find that out? What I DID like is how much stronger on the puck he is. Remember last year how guys would breathe on him and he’d fall off the puck and say, “Here, you can have it” ? Not this year. It’s more like, “Bitch, get your own damn lunch money.” He’s also jumping into the scrums to pull guys off and keep others out of them AND barking at guys who are getting in his face. I think we’ll see a much more aggressive Dutchy out there this year. Mueller? Mueller?

Dupuis – Agreed. I’ve always been a huge Porter fan, but he was nowhere last night. Dupuis made him obsolete.

Guance – Aside from the fight and some physical play, he was defensively terrible. Out of position, bad turnovers, seemed overwhelmed with the pace of the game. The fight came after a series of particularly bad shifts and was probably a “look boss, I’m good at this!” statement. I will be surprised if he’s not on the next list sent down.

Mauldin – Agreed….for the second half of game. Felt he was invisible for first half.

Elliott – Could not agree more more more. Ugh. How he stayed when Travis and his inflatable pool was sent down is beyond me.

Holos – Started out well but disappeared or had bad plays as the night wore on, which surprises me as he’s supposed to be such a minute crunching warrior. He still is fantastic at tying up his man so his teammate can get the puck and move it out of the zone. His PP skills are terrible, though. And his PK positioning is even worse. 5-on-5 he does well IMO. I don’t think he will get that 7th spot, though. He needs time to adjust to the tight quarters of an NHL rink, especially in those special teams situations. He will be very good once he does. Look for him to be an early call up.

Koci – FABULOUS!!! He really is getting good at getting his face in the way of people’s fists. The worst part about this fight was that it shifted the momentum to the Kings and the Avs never got it back. I’ve no idea why they fought, even. It was totally random.

Foote – What was up with him? He was a grumpy old man last night! I actually liked it, personally. I don’t like that the team had to go on the kill so much, but Footer setting the tone of “Don’t mess with my team” from the get go was nice to see. But now reading the history, it was probably more the personal score to settle angle. Still, I don’t think he looked horrible. Slow, definitely. But that’s Foote. I think his play was negatively affected by his linemate. He was playing with Guance who was all over the place defensively. The two of them just weren’t working.

McLeod – I feel like Highlander might be reigned in a little bit. There were so many classic Cody opportunities last night for him to chirp and poke and be the classic pest, but he was pretty mellow about all that, doing a bit here and there, but nowhere near the Highlander we know. Not sure what that’s about.

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 8:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, and the Pepsi Center was so empty. Why aren’t they selling those tickets for $10 each and filling the place up?? Oh yeah, It’s all About the A(asinine idea that high ticket prices and empty seats will make more money than filled seats at lower prices)

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yup, we thought about going but didn’t really feel like paying $50 for two tickets only to sit up top and behind the net. Bought Civilization V instead and man am I enjoying that decision.

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve been a diehard Civ fan since Civ II back in the 90s. Gotta pull some pennies together and get the new one.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I still play the hell out of Civ IV. in fact, played it last night instead of listening to the game

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Civ III was my all-time favorite. Epic huge maps, tons of civs to fight, same simple graphic style as Civ II but better in many ways.

I miss that game. Need a Windows 7 version.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

actually, my “blogging” start was by doing some reviews for a now defunct game review site. I think Civ IV was my first review. the circle is now complete.

I’d totally go for some more Civ III

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

The expansions had some really awesome scenarios and maps. I’m seriously jonesing to play Civ III now! haha

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow. I was happy with Civ I.

Matt Duchene, better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk!

by i2strange97 on Sep 23, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Have played Civ since Civ II, might have to look into a new one.

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by Americanario on Sep 23, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Beyond the Sword and other expansions for Civ IV are a lot of fun too if you haven’t played them.

I am really liking Civ V so far though. It’s been simplified in a lot of ways. Less nuances to manage, i.e. tax rates, simplified city management ,etc. But I really like that they’ve gotten rid of army stacks and only allow one fighting-unit per tile. It up’s the strategy required by a long-shot.

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh no! Now I won’t be able to use my stack of fifty modern armors to crush single musketmen on easy level!

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

On the plus side, there is now an actual unit called “giant death robot”. So you’ll have that going for you.

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Say no more. There’s a GameStop one block from my office. Looks like I’ll be making a stop on my lunch break.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, I’m sold.

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

if I’m not mistaken, though, even if you buy the retail box you have to download from Steam

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, well I already have a Steam account so I’ll just download that way…RIGHT NOW!

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

You have to install steam and verify your install code with steam, but the game installed from the disk for me. Not that it’s a big deal either way. The disc version doesn’t come with anything useful more than a big map of the tech tree.

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

cool. I had heard those retail boxes were empty with just the tech tree and some utility crap. I’d probably just dl from steam anyway…but my cheap ass will wait until it’s on sale

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh wow, 49.99. I might hold off for a bit.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah… we had gamestop trade credit

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

im torn. I just finished the SC2 campaign with every acheivement. My gaming time is either:

getting into SC2 multi
starting Red Dead Redemption, which im borrowing from a friend
getting Civ 5

I think I could wait on Civ 5 and have someone buy it for me at christmas… but then people say it’s so awesome…argh

by thedoctor on Sep 23, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nerds.

All of you.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t you build constructing more pylons, or something?

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by Dixomatic on Sep 23, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

If I was a dirty slave to Aiur and Tassadar, then yes.

Terran 4 lyfe, bitches.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Sep 23, 2010 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's a fucking preseason game.

Even if the tickets were free I probably would have found something better to do.

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by UZ on Sep 23, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

"You are kissing my ass!" - Me

by Pinchy The Lobster on Sep 23, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

My husband and I were looking at purchasing preseason tickets ourselves and couldn’t believe that they weren’t much cheaper than regular season tickets. The prices on our tickets from last night were $120 each! I love watching the Avalanche, preseason or not I’m willing to shell out some money to see them, but charging full price for preseason tickets is a scam.

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Scams only work if somebody falls for them. No offense. (I wish I could see the Avs more than once or twice a year and would pay as much as I could afford to do so.)

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thankfully we didn’t actually pay for the tickets we had last night (a Facebook friend of mine who sees my constant Avalanche related updates hooked us up with someone who was giving away his tickets.) We were going to buy tickets but after seeing that they were so expensive said no way.

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

here in Vancouver, (and in Edmonton as well) pre season tix are the same price as regular season, I would bet it’s like that in most other cities

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by horbayj on Sep 23, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

The guy that turtled was Zeiller.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stewart was salivating for him all night! When Zeiller was being taken over to the bench after one of the Foote altercations, CGDS was leaned over the Avs bench talking mad trash, haha. Galli was in on it too!

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

IMO

Tickets should only be about 5$, maybe 10$, more than a Lake Eerie game. Half the roster is a minor team for both sides, and the outcome doesn’t matter. That should be reflected in the price.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

and well, that wasn’t a jibble per say, I replied to the wrong comment…

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

I believe I said those exact same words at a Wild-Canucks regular season game 10 years ago. The Canuckleheads around me were not impressed.

by NEB on Sep 23, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I once said the exact same words at a Wild-Canucks game ten years ago.

by NEB on Sep 23, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

How did the Canuckleheads feel about it?

The OT: All that AND a bag of meat.

by frightened inmate #2 on Sep 23, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe they were unimpressed

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by Savage33 on Sep 24, 2010 4:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Holos

I’m not sure I agree with your Holos assessment that he started well. He was in the box 36 seconds into the game for holding, starting the parade. I wasn’t there to watch, but that doesn’t seem like a good start to me. I hope he figures out his angles and the speed quickly.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Sep 23, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I meant start on the whole. Obviously that penalty was a boneheaded move but most of the first and into the second he was doing all right. He seemed to settle down after that penalty… in fact, maybe too much.

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 10:38 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was there too… Got some super cheap seats directly behind Avs’ bench.

The guy that Stewart took down was Zeiler again. Guy is such a jerk.

Duchene looked like he might be overthinking things a bit. He definitely plays more physical than last year and I think that is part of what he’s adjusting too. I think he’ll be even more amazing with a little more time.

I thought Quincey had some moments of serious badassery last night, especially offensively. There was a time on one of our powerplays where he WOULD NOT let the Kings clear the puck. That said… I’m still pretty sure we didn’t score on that one.

McLeod was talking trash to Bernier all night… especially in the second period. Bernier came out of his net twice that I noticed almost looking like he would fight McLeod. That would have been amazing.

by onerightminus on Sep 23, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Some Kings player (can’t remember who) pushed Stewie after the whistle was blown and he was PISSED. Turned around and just started wailing on the guy.

Pretty sure that was Zeiller. Still not sure how Stewie got a roughing penalty on that and Zeiller got nothing (though hard to see through the radio). That was when Stastny was being called for a delayed penalty, so the Kings got a 5 on 3.

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by Americanario on Sep 23, 2010 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes on all counts

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is the 2nd straight game that the Avs were at a severe shot disadvantage.

fixed

by c0nquistad0rian on Sep 23, 2010 7:09 AM MDT reply actions  

that is kind of a critical prefix

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

hmmm, I swear I wrote “thanks” somewhere in that comment…

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jerk

Muhammad paid Jimmy Howard to draw a portrait of him.

by c6hor8 on Sep 23, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just your Detroiletness showing.

We’re used to it.

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by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

…and you still forgot the e on “sever[e]”!

by c0nquistad0rian on Sep 23, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

you know, I got so caught up in the one error that I didn’t see the other

this is what happens when you’re rushing to post something while getting your kids ready for school.

or when you do a ton of drugs.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

site update

the overlords tweaked things a bit this morning. if anyone is experiencing any issues (related to the site, I mean) let us know

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:09 AM MDT reply actions  

There were a bunch of sites (not just SBN) that made wholesale website changes on me overnight (My newswire, and one of our local papers for example). Did I Miss something?

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 7:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

you didn’t know about annual website change day?

"There's no room for loyalty in fantasy hockey." - Red Wing Dave

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Guess not

Help help! I'm being repressed!

by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Workin’ fine so far. At least as far as I can tell.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 7:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

my auto-refresh on comments doesn’t seem to be working

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I’ve been jumping around pages so I haven’t noticed, but I’ll hang here for a while and see if any new ones show up.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

They’re updating fine for me. One just showed up.

Mile High Hockey: Significantly better than the experts predicted, just like the Avalanche.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

interesting

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mine are showing up to, although my page jumps a bit when they show up.

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Doesn't it always do that

When you’re reading below where the comment appears.

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by Drakenlot on Sep 23, 2010 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks to me that all they did were some cosmetic changes and a couple of new links for twitter and facebook likings and retweets.

And some new stuff for the football sites but who cares about them.

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by UZ on Sep 23, 2010 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

There’s some new features for admins, but that matters to very few people. So nevermind.

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Translation

blah blah blah blah blah Let them eat cake blah blah blah

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m sure the benefits will trickle down to everyone eventually.

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s what Reagan said

by MalachiConstant on Sep 23, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something's been dripping on my head,

but I’m pretty sure it’s not “benefits”.

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Might need to call a plumber, especially if you live below someone, and have a fan. Otherwise the Shit really could hit the fan. I know, that was awesome, no need to tell me.

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by Savage33 on Sep 24, 2010 5:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Powerplay DISadvantage. Kings 11 PP’s, Avs 4. That said, the Avs killed all but 1 of them. That’s decent

As for Foote (in Skatebaker’s review)…sounds like he had a score to settle. Let’s see how he is in the next game or two. (Though I would never doubt that he has Skrastin’s like cement feet)

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by chiavsfan on Sep 23, 2010 7:24 AM MDT reply actions  

On the penalties: there was a bit of San-Jose-playoff-itis going on last night. Some ridiculously borderline calls on the Avs and blatantly missed ones on the Kings. Quincey gets shoved into Bernier? Goaltender interference. Foote stands near a guy? Interference. Oh, but the guy gets called for diving too. How can it be both?? I’ve never understood that. Stastny Is reaching for the puck with his stick, the guy skates into his stick and falls down. Tripping….even tho SoS didn’t even move his stick towards the guy at all. Oh, and that’s when the Kings player starts shoving Stewie, Stewie takes him down, and he gets a roughing penalty. The Kings player? Surely he gets roughing too because whenever you do that shit after the whistle the new rules state it’s an automatic two minutes! Nope, nada. 5 on 3. I’m not blaming the loss on the refs – no, it’s Grahame’s fault – but the officiating was horrid. Blatant offside calls missed. Too many men calls missed. Terrible.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sounds like just another day in the NHL.

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pre-season for the refs too.

Running-dog lackey counter-revolutionary malcontent, Not an expert.

by Busted Twigg on Sep 23, 2010 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Already in mid-season form. I was impressed.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Sep 23, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

That last one on Quincey was ridiculous. Also, I am still bitter about the playoffs, hahaha.

by xskatebakerrx on Sep 23, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

You knew Brad Richardson was going to score. It had to happen. I say we trade him for Delmas straight up.

by Dario on Sep 23, 2010 8:27 AM MDT reply actions  

I KNEW IT!

This team was overachieving in it’s first win! Corsi has caught up to us! We’re falling down to earth! Tank for Hall Larsson!

by Stazz21 on Sep 23, 2010 10:18 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d

Bitch, give me your lunch money.

by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 10:41 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Forsberg

anyone notice there is a viable 1st round prospect named Forsberg in each of the next 3 drafts? The big one is 2013 with Alex but next year is a D.

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by zandar on Sep 23, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I noticed that

Dear Colorado Avalanche: Thank you for the excitement, see you in October.

by Drakenlot on Sep 23, 2010 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

TV

interestingly, was just listening to WEEI here in Boston and they are ripping the Bruins for not broadcasting preseason games.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 10:49 AM MDT reply actions  

NHL Network

is doing its darndest to post every single pre-season game….except any Avs games.

by Avalanche318 on Sep 23, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think there’s still a small percentage of teams broadcasting preseason games.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I made a count of this the other day based on the schedule at NHL.com. It appears that at least 11 teams are broadcasting at least one preseason game on TV.

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had 1/3 in my head, so that sounds about right

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 23, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Clearly this is a league-wide conspiracy against our team. Now we know how Detroit fans feel.

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by Joe Dunman on Sep 23, 2010 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

DDC has always known.

Colorado Avalanche Offseason Strategy - Please wake us in October

by Hopfenkopf on Sep 23, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Saw part of the Ottawa-Toronto game last night. In fact at one point I was listening to the Avs and watching the Sens-Leafs…(they were showing the game on tape delayed I think)

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by Americanario on Sep 23, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

i was at the game too..

and I agree with what everyone was saying about the players. I thought Gaunce looked pretty nervous out there and got bailed out by Andy a lot but he really endeared himself with that fight. You could tell that he wasn’t all that used to fighting (at least in the NHL) but he held his own and the crowd (all of the 10 people there) got really behind him. The game was extremely chippy especially because of the Zeiler. I really wanted to someone to cream him but he turtled when footer when after him and when stewie went after him. of course when he was skating after getting attacked by stewie he challenged the avs bench….
one of the things i loved the most was that players were really starting to stick up for each. when koci assumed his role a punching bag..i mean enforcer… it was really cool to see highlander skate right up the fight and tap his stick on this ice edging koci on. i was on the upper deck and you could hear mcleod yelling at koci to kick his ass.

all in all the game was pretty fun. mauldin showed a lot of spark and i too was surprised he only had two shots on goal. to me gaunce looks like he will be a really good addition with some seasoning (and of course a killer nickname). holos needs some time in the ahl but once he adjusts more to the north american game he will be a good addition to our team as well. o and never put grahame in net again….

by denverpioneer10 on Sep 23, 2010 11:33 AM MDT reply actions  

one of the things i loved the most was that players were really starting to stick up for each.

agreed. there was no hesitation with this. our guys were all over anyone that messed with their teammates. and the stick taps and encouragements were loud and enthusiastic both during fights and as the players came out of the box. it was great to see.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 23, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mose’s reaction to Stewart vs. Zeiler: “And Zeiler wants no part of Stewart.”
Then McNabb: “There are maybe five guys in the whole league who want a part of Stewart.”

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by Dixomatic on Sep 23, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can’t find video but the Avs website put out a photo galley of the game. The Stewie / #13 pick is to die for. Hell, even the pic of Koci makes him look mean (less kitten-like).

Matt Duchene, better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk!

by i2strange97 on Sep 23, 2010 12:09 PM MDT reply actions  

You know, the depressing thing is that Grahme said in an interview after the game that he felt like he was playing well. I’d hate to see what it’s like when he’s playing bad…

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by JackAvsFan on Sep 23, 2010 3:54 PM MDT reply actions  

He'd make Casper look like a brick wall

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by Drakenlot on Sep 23, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

When was the last time you heard a prospect say he played like shit?

Winnik is a fucking Win!

by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 23, 2010 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Getting outshot consistently worries me

We overcame it last season thanks to Andy, but I don’t know if we can expect lightning to strike twice. We need to find some offense.

by eltharion_doa on Sep 23, 2010 11:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Avs seriously outshot the Stars…FYI

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